Introduction: Flyback Transformer Drivers

This instructable is the seventh one that I made. This instructable is about how to make a fly back transformer driver. There are two that I will show, one that is mechanical, and one that is solid-state (for the more technologically advanced). My inspiration for this instructable was that I made a mechanical driver, then it died; so I bought another one but decided to make a solid-state one.

Warning: this instructable deals with high voltage, so you could get shocked and potentially killed. I take no responsibility for any damage, injury, or death.

P.S.  The picture you see on this page is copied and pasted from Google, so it's not this good or high power.
 

Step 1: Parts for Simple Driver

These are the parts that you need for a simple fly back driver. The pros are that it's simple to build and lasts a long time. The cons are that it doesn't make as big sparks as solid-state drivers, and it's very noisy.

Parts:
1- 5 volt relay
?- wires
1- 6 volt power source
1- fly back transformer with pins identified
1- on/off switch (optional)

Tools:
1- soldering iron
1- solder wire
1- helping hands station (optional)

Step 2: Schematic for Simple Driver

This is the schematic for the simple driver. Just wire the relay like the picture has it. The two wires sticking on the bottom is what you connect to the power source and transformer. Just follow schematic #2 to see how to connect it all.

Step 3: Parts for Solid State Flyback Driver

These are the parts that you need for the solid state driver. The pros are that it makes bigger sparks. The cons are that it's harder to make.

Parts:
1- 6 volt power source
1- on/off switch (optional)
1- fly back transformer with pins identified
1-555 timer ic
1-power transistor (see schematic and text file)
1-0.01 uf capacitor
?-resistors (it depends on whether you use the schematic or my info in the text document)
?- wires

Tools:
1- soldering iron
1- solder wire
1- helping hands station (optional)

Comments

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TheGreatResistor made it!(author)2016-08-01

Have you tried the simple driver does it work and if it does at what frequency I want to replicate please help

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techno+guy made it!(author)2016-08-02

The simple driver runs at a relatively low frequency, probably under 100 Hz.

It really depends on the size of your relay, bigger relays run slower than smaller relays.

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TheGreatResistor made it!(author)2016-08-03

Is 100Hz enough to run a flyback?

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techno+guy made it!(author)2016-08-03

Technically no because it isn't near the resonant frequency of the flyback, but actually yes (more like kind of) because you'll still be able to draw sparks from it, just they will be smaller and less powerful.

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TheGreatResistor made it!(author)2016-08-04

How many cm can I expect

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TheGreatResistor made it!(author)2016-08-03

How many cm or mm sparks can I expect from the relay and the 555 timer

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techno+guy made it!(author)2016-08-03

Depends on the input voltage/current/frequency.

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techno+guy made it!(author)2016-08-03

Maybe 1 cm?

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thefilipinoexperimenter made it!(author)2016-02-21

Excuse me, I have a question. Will the reverse voltage spikes not damage the 555 chip?

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techno+guy made it!(author)2016-08-02

It's possible, you should probably use some kind of diode for protection.

I have actually burned 555 chips from shorting out the output of the flyback.

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johnl2 made it!(author)2015-11-15

Sorry, but how on earth do you expect that relay driver to work? What oscillates the relay? As far as I can see, you have both ends of the coil wired in series between the power source and the transformer. I wired it up just for kicks, it turns the relay on and that's about it.

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techno+guy made it!(author)2015-11-21

Sometimes that happens, not sure why. In my tests I used a 5 volt relay, those tiny ones that RadioShack used to sell. It works by the relay turning on and swinging the contact which shorts out the coil causing the contact to fall back but opens the circuit and drawing the contact back, over and over.

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-max- made it!(author)2012-04-18

see what happens if you add a film capacitor across the +V and the positive end of the flyback. i did this with a very similar circuit with a ignition coil and it gave me much better output (from <1mm sparks to 20 mm long sparks)

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Electrospark made it!(author)2015-05-28

Do you mean in series with the flyback transformer?

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-max- made it!(author)2015-05-28

In parallel. That way you make a L1 tank circuit. It has to be well tuned so first without it figure out how many turns gives you the most output, then start adding various film or MKP capacitors to see what works best.

That wasn't exactly my original idea but it will do exactly the same thing.

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Electrospark made it!(author)2015-05-28

Hmm... Yeah, I saw this configuration on the ZVS circuit.

I might give it a try but people don't want me to play with high voltage...

But it's so much fun... :( I guess I'll have to go with second best and watch photonicinduction's videos. :)

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ahime1 made it!(author)2013-08-13

Does the capacitor have to be a 0.01uf or can it be bigger?

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techno+guy made it!(author)2013-08-13

for the solid state one, it could be different, but the frequency would change.

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XOIIO made it!(author)2013-03-12

Would any old power transistor work? I've taken apart quite a few power supplies form things lately and have a couple dozen transistors/MOSFETs that are attached to heatsinks.

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techno+guy made it!(author)2013-03-27

they should work, but I recommend that you look up datasheets for them and see what their ratings are

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XOIIO made it!(author)2013-03-29

Thanks, I was also wondering, I have this capacitor, should that work fine? I'm not sure if I need a DC or AC capacitor, and I may not be able to find one, would it work without the capacitor?

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techno+guy made it!(author)2013-07-14

if it's for the solid state circuit, then yes it has to be a DC cap, also if it's for the solid state one, then it needs a capacitor for timing.

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crockman1 made it!(author)2011-12-13

woa siiiiick ima make this issht son im working on a battery powered tesla coil rite now im gonna post that when i get done. im trying to make a big mineral oil cap to hold alotta charge right now

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Lectric+Wizard made it!(author)2011-11-29

The circuit in step2 is very similar to the old "vibrators" they use to use in Vacuum tude car radios, so us dinosaurs could listen to our music. A small capacitor .1uF or so across the relay contacts might make it last longer ( keeps the arcing down). Good job on the 'able. Cheers !

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