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Fog Juice Advice

Fog Juice Advice
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Because sometimes knowing what not to do is more important than knowing what to do.

I knew that fog machines work by passing the fog juice over a heating element, where it vaporized, and was released into the air. So I thought to myself, this would work great on a stove, it obviously cant be flammable because it is shot out over a heating element. It would fill my whole house up with fog, and I wouldn't have to wait for the heating element to charge up every time I fire, like in a fog machine, it would just release the fog constantly.

So I got my method down of pouring the fog juice into a hot pan, letting it all bubble off as fog, and then adding more. It was actually very efficient and worked just the way I thought it would, and before long my entire house was filled up with smoke. However, (I didn't know this when I did it) when the fog juice would burn off, it wouldn't burn off evenly, so of the propylene glycol, triethylene glycol, and distilled water something was getting concentrated in the bottom of the pan.

Watch the video and see what happens. Not only that but I now learned that if its heated over a certain temperature then it releases toxic fumes. Ive probably just shaved off 5 years of my life, at this point I'm probably expected to live to about 26 (this wasn't the first time Ive breathed toxic fumes).


 
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Oct 15, 2009. 4:38 PMalex-sharetskiy says:
Pretty cool
Jan 17, 2009. 9:38 PMacaz93 says:
I'm not shure what's happening to me , but every time i watchthis video i LOL so hard i can't breath!
Apr 25, 2007. 5:52 PMarch_angel07 says:
just wondering would it be possible to collect the stuff that pools in the bottom before it bursts into flame, and use it as a type of rocket fuel or somthing of that manner?
Aug 21, 2008. 7:22 PMm85476585 says:
No, it won't work as "rocket fuel". This would be about the same as using gasoline or cooking oil as rocket fuel (NASA doesn't use that stuff for a reason). Big flames != thrust. To use this stuff as rocket fuel, you would have to burn it under high pressure in the presence of an oxidizer like liquid oxygen or nitrous oxide. Additionally, you would need some kind of nozzle and injection system that injects this stuff into the combustion chamber, and it will be very difficult to get the correct fuel-oxidizer ratio. If you could build such a rocket engine, it probably would be too heavy to even lift itself unless you built it on a very large scale, which is not something the average do-it-yourselfer can do. And even if you could build an engine to burn this stuff, it might tun out that there is not enough energy in it to do anything at all. A much simpler rocket fuel is solid propellant, which combines the oxidizer and fuel in a relatively safe and stable solid form that burns rapidly when lit.
Sep 16, 2008. 2:14 PMarch_angel07 says:
so your saying nasa doesn't have nozzles and injection systems on their rockets... those have nothing to do with the fuel, if the myth busters can make a working rocket using salami for fuel, im sure this could create some thrust. you could always add something to speed up the combustion. (that doesn't mean it's the best way, but it might work)
Oct 6, 2008. 4:54 PMthe_better_nacho says:
the mythbusters packed other fuel sources into a hallowed out salami roll.. it wasnt pure salami that was being burned off for fuel.
Sep 16, 2008. 4:31 PMm85476585 says:
NASA uses liquid hydrogen and oxygen in the space shuttle, which is very different from hydrocarbon fuel. There are some rocket engines that use hydrocarbon+liquid oxygen as fuel, though, such as the Soviet NK-33
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NK-33

You can read more about liquid rocket engines, including their history, here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liquid_rocket

I would still say that fog juice residue is not a good choice of fuel, though since you don't know what it consists of. Also, I would still say that it would be very difficult to build a liquid-fueled engine yourself.

The Mythbusters salami rocket was a hybrid engine, which means it has solid fuel and a liquid/gaseous oxidizer. Hybrid rockets are quite a bit simpler than liquid-fuel rockets since the reaction is basically self-balancing. The fuel will react with the oxidizer as fast as the oxidizer is supplied, so there is no need to ensure that two liquids flow at the same rate.
Aug 18, 2008. 7:53 PMphotis22 says:
no the mixture doesn't burn fast enough and its probably reeeeely toxic
Jul 6, 2008. 12:45 PMNyanman says:
i'll try it.
Aug 22, 2008. 9:58 AMgoeon says:
OK THAN
Aug 18, 2008. 7:55 PMphotis22 says:
lol i have done that sooo many times with lighter fluid
Jul 8, 2008. 4:12 PMcodongolev says:
the pan has caught on fire. which is not good.
Jul 24, 2006. 10:36 PMDaftPunk says:
You know what? Forget the Darwin award, you should start the "Tetra Award" or whatever you want to call it. I have go to give you a helluva lotta credit for all you've done, cause I have tried most of it, that has to do with fire and electricity, and it worked pretty good for me, and I have done a lot of stupid stuff in my life. So, yeah, excellent as usual.
Jun 3, 2008. 2:20 PMYummyPancakes says:
Me + high explosives = ~25 tetra awards.
Oct 19, 2007. 8:18 AMVendigroth says:
We need to consider the following: Is this an award given BY Tetranitrate, or in loving memory OF Tetranitrate?
Jul 6, 2008. 12:39 PMNyanman says:
memory of at this rate
Jun 22, 2007. 1:04 PMLoveofchaos says:
situations like making an electronic detonator with wire too thin, plugged into the wall, switch welds itself together. starts a fire. i pull the flaming detonator out of the house and smother it with a bucket but the smell is unbearable. in 5 mins i have the place ventilated and all traces gone. my mom came back in 5 mins, i didnt gte caught, mom doesnt even know anything happened, howver her bucket is missing and theres a smoke ring on the cement outside my house lol. think fast act fast dont get caught. it works haha
Jan 11, 2007. 10:49 PMSnuffyDaPenguin says:
I deserve that award then...it's what I do ;-)
Aug 28, 2007. 11:44 PMOra says:
Are you a fireman?
Aug 29, 2007. 8:12 PMSnuffyDaPenguin says:
Nope, I'm a pyro.
Jul 6, 2008. 12:39 PMNyanman says:
me too.
Oct 27, 2007. 7:30 AMSin_Ink says:
Mmmm. . . .Mothballs broiled in brake fluid. Yummm!
Feb 12, 2008. 12:14 PMSupreme_Angler says:
Nail clippers boiled in a solution of nitric acid and hemlock sap are the best!!!
Jan 24, 2008. 1:07 PMchillinout says:
hi, seen the recipe to make your own fog juice. Has any one tried it in a store bought fog machine? Don't want to mess up my machine.
Dec 21, 2007. 3:54 PMnerfer192 says:
yo, tetra, are you like obsessed with fire and bombs or something?
Sep 19, 2007. 1:28 PMmarc92 says:
Tetranitrate, How old are you?
Aug 1, 2007. 12:06 PM!Andrew_Modder! says:
... i have no idea what this instructable shows me how to do anything?
Aug 2, 2007. 2:10 PMwhatsisface says:
It shows you how to not kill yourself
Aug 2, 2007. 6:19 PM!Andrew_Modder! says:
oh lol! ok :-) living is good!
May 12, 2007. 6:07 PMTiller says:
Did you know that if you can pump enough fog into an enclosed space so that it is as dense as possible, then make an open spark or flame, that you can create an explosion big enough to do massive damage to the room? In the demo they used a miniature room built following standard home construction guidelines and managed to seperate all the walls and the roof fell in (Obviously, since there were no supporting walls) The original experiment was done by one of the daddies of the fireworks industry. See Foggers can be dangerous, and are sold at Walmart!!
May 13, 2007. 3:09 PM0.775volts says:
that is patently untrue. most fog is water based. You may be thinking of earlier oil based diffusion hazes and fog machines. the main problem with those foggers was the buildup of thick oily sludge on surfaces. modern fluid is made of glycol and water, and can vary widely between brands, as different machines are set at different temperatures, and optimized for one specific range or type of fluid. some fluids are designed to dissipate quickly, while others are designed to hang in the air. modern fog machines work on the principle of volatization. the small particles collect moisture (Which is why fog machines work better in a humid environment). fog is essentially that, fog. and it's hard for a cloud of water vapor to combust. older fog and haze techiniques could be dangerous, but they used oil, some even used kerosene, so the danger there is apparent.
Aug 2, 2006. 2:14 PM0.775volts says:
yeah, in theatre we use dry ice as a fog chiller all the time. basically get a cooler, make two holes, one on each end, for dryer tube (most people use that to route fog, it works great) put a fan on one end of each tube, one blowing through the whole thing, the other exhausting , and put the fog machine behind the fan, so the fan sucks the fog into the cooler. fill the cooler with chunks of dry ice (i suggest a mixture of sizes from golf ball to softball), close and tape the lid on, and let her rip. if you want a lot of continuous fog, get two smaller machines and alternate running them for 15 second bursts. this lets the elements heat, and you can get much better, even coverage than if you just give it a burst. also, this helps to make sure the fog volatizes at the correct temperature, ensuring a dry, clean fog. if you run the machine for a large burst,the element cools past the optimum temperature. it still produces fog, but you get incomplete volatiziation, hence the dribbles and slick spot in front of the machine, or the stuff in your pan (though that may also be caused by too high a temperature, i'm not really certain since that is usually not an issue with actual fog machines. )
May 12, 2007. 6:11 PMTiller says:
Judging by your screen name you are a sound tech.
Aug 15, 2006. 5:33 AMCamster911 says:
Where did the pan go afterwards? I wanted to see flying pan of flames go hurtling out the window, thionking back, i did that when i was cooking bacon and i spilt some paint thinner...
Jan 11, 2007. 10:46 PMSnuffyDaPenguin says:
Why would you even keep paint thinner near your stove, and why would you open it so it could spill?
Apr 14, 2007. 10:49 AMVendigroth says:
don't you know? Fried paint thinner's nice
May 11, 2007. 1:57 PMSnuffyDaPenguin says:
Actually, I prefer fried bleach myself...
May 11, 2007. 1:57 PMVendigroth says:
no, no, no, no, no! You GRILL bleach!
May 11, 2007. 8:57 PMSnuffyDaPenguin says:
lol I was gonna say that, but I figured bleach would drip through the grating of the grill...either way ;-)
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