Introduction: Garden Walk Reconstitution

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When I bought my house, the backyard had a flagstone patio and a rotting wood deck, separated by about 15 feet with a paver and pea gravel path joining them. The original plan was to pull out the wood deck and path and landscape that area but, upon ripping out the deck, I discovered a concrete slab of just a bit smaller dimensions underneath. The slab was in pretty decent shape so I changed plans and decided to keep it as a second seating area. This turned my attention to the path, which had good pavers, but the pea gavel filling in between them was full of weeds and dirt; plus I didn't really like the placement of the path itself.

Thus my decision to move it. Pulling up the pavers was easy, but for the new placement I needed to accomplish two goals: First, pull up all the existing gravel and larger stones the pavers had rested on so I could plant grass, and Second separate out the small pea gravel and the larger broken rock for re-use in the new path. I like to use and re-use what I have before breaking down and buying new materials.

I'll note up front that I am not a landscape professional (this may become very obvious) and I basically made this up as I went along except for the rock sifter which was buzzing around in my head for a few months now. I like to do a little planning and a (very) little research and then just dive into a project and see what it teaches me. This one turned out pretty well.

Step 1: Building the Sifter

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I built a pretty simple double-screen sifting aparatus from 1/2" and 1/4" fencing, my always-handy pile of random 2x4 lengths, and a pair of sawhorses. For the top level I used the 1/2" fencing for separating out the largest stones, and added hinges to ease pouring the rocks into a bucket as well as to get that level out of the way so I could work the lower screen.

The lower level was a double layer, consisting of the 1/4" fencing on top of a layer of 1/2". The 1/2" fencing was a higher gauge wire, so I put that down for overall strength; I didn't want the screen to rip out halfway through the process.

One admission: the first attempt for the lower level was the 1/2" fencing with an overlay of window screen material, rather than the 1/4" fencing. I thought I'd lose too much "good" gravel through the 1/4" fencing, so went with the very fine mesh (some of the pictures are from this version). Big mistake on several points. First, it was unnecessary. After I switched to 1/4", I got plenty of good stone. Second, some of the really small gravel the fine mesh caught was just too small; it filled in like dirt which was not the look I wanted. But the main reason I stopped the process and refit with the 1/4" was because trying to sift through the fine mesh was a time consuming nightmare. Each shovelful took ages. I experimented with using a leaf blower on my rock and dirt pile to blow off some of the finer dirt before shoveling it into the sifter, but that didn't work too well and made a heck of a dust cloud.

I learned my lesson quickly and switched it out. The gravel I got was just what I needed, not too much waste, and the sifting process was 10 times faster and easier. Never be afraid to stop and rework the solution if it isn't quite right.

Step 2: Rock and Dirt Collection

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On the hinged end of the sifter, I forced a dip in the top screen to funnel the rock-flow, and placed a collection bucket under that.

Similar for the opposite end of the lower screen: a dip in the screen aided by a break in the 2x4 supports, plus another bucket.

Under the whole thing I put a pair of wide planters to catch the sifted dirt and very small rocks.

The final touch was a safety chain rigged to hold up the top screen for when I was working stuff through the lower. Thus, no one was concussed during operation.

The collection process was then a straightforward matter of roughly a million shovel-fulls (that's what it seemed like) of rock matrix into the sifter and a lot of manual manipulation to get it all through. Heavy leather gloves were important.

Step 3: Edging the Path

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The original path was lined with sections of plastic edging. For aesthetic reasons and personal hangups, I prefer using metal edging. Having used EasyFlex Aluminum Landscape Edging on a prior project, I went with that. Easy to use, strong, and it looks good. This was the only material I had to buy for the project; everything else was laying around my shop.

I laid out one edge to define the overall shape of the path. For the other, I was careful to use a level to assure the correct relative elevation. The side closer to the house was intentionally about two inches higher than the other, to aid with drainage, but given the width of the path this difference is invisible to the eye. Easy cheat to accomplish this: I cut a shallow grove down the length of a 4" long piece of 2x4 scrap, balanced this on the first edging (farthest from the house) and then rested the level on that and the second edging (closer to the house). Adjusted the second edging to level, slid down a few feet, adjusted the elevation there, and continued that way to the end.

The old plastic edging material came in handy as spacers to maintain an even width for the run of the new path.

Step 4: Planning the Pavers

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The pavers reclaimed from the old path were, lucky for me, in a wide variety of sizes and shapes. Like packing a shopping bag, you start with the big pieces and then fill in with the smaller. When doing this kind of thing, it's important to lay out the whole thing in advance, before final placement. This assures an even distribution and no surprises at the end when the the remaining pieces don't fill the way you want. During this process there were many times where I robbed a piece from an earlier section because I found a better use for it.

The original path had pretty wide gaps between the pavers, but I wanted something with thin gaps, partially to cut down on weed opportunity, and partially because pea gravel never really stays where you want it to, so I wanted to minimize its use.

I was again lucky, in that I was pretty successful in finding pieces that fit together fairly well.

The old and new path met up with the flagstone patio in the same spot, so about 2 feet of original path was maintained. Again, the gaps were a little wider than I liked, so I found some smaller wedges that I plan to insert into that section.

Some may note that I didn't use that black plastic "weed-block" sheet stuff under the rocks. Basically, I don't like it. It certainly doesn't guarantee that you won't get weeds (you will. nature finds a way. like in Jurassic Park), and it's just more plastic-product junk I'd rather not insert into the environment. Yes, sharp-eyed critics will find dozens of environmentally unfriendly items in my pictures, to which I say, "you need a better hobby".

Step 5: Paver Leveling and Gap Fill

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Now I was ready for final placement. The pavers had widely varying depths, ranging from an inch up to more than three, some with a consistent thickness and others having bulges and arches. My goal, despite this, was for the tops of all the pavers to be evenly level with each other.

The edging helped a lot with this. I got a long bar (the white one in the pictures) and use that to assure I raised each paver to the right height. This was a repetitive process of eyeballing the gap below it, pouring in large rocks to bring it up close, laying the paver to test with the white bar, picking it back up to add or subtract rocks, and repeat. After a while, you get a feel for it.

One nice trick I found was to get the paver just a wee bit high, so the bar balanced on it and hovered over one or both of the edging on either side. Leave the bar resting on the paver and then, with a twisting pressing motion, grind the paver down into the base rocks. The bar jiggles back and forth with the motion of the paver until suddenly, it stops moving. Its ends have just touched down on the edging, and the paver is leveled perfectly. That worked really well.

I'd do about two feet of path, placing and leveling pavers, then go back and start filling in with the pea gravel to hold it all in place. Pouring in the gravel to level off the whole path was pretty satisfying.

Step 6: Wrap Up

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And that's it. As of this writing I still need to go back an insert the wedges into the original section, and then landscape/mulch the area between the path and house, and finally bring in some topsoil for the other side to plant grass (I'll update with pictures as I go, if there is any interest).

The rock sifter will see service cleaning up some smaller pea gravel paths off the other side of the patio, and then I'll likely disassemble it to reuse its parts in some other project.

Hope you found it interesting and helpful. Thanks for reading and good luck on your projects.

Comments

FreddieBarlett (author)2015-05-21

That's one hell of a project, good job! I wanted to make the path in my yard long ago, but I want mine to have some greenery in between the pavers. What can I use instead of gravel so it won't wash out from the rain?

UrJac (author)FreddieBarlett2015-06-02

Thank you! I've been thinking about doing another path through the grass to a garden, with grass between pavers like you describe. I've just started doing some research on what kind of grass would work best, in that it would have to have some pretty good roots, but not mind getting trimmed short. I think if I find the right one then the grass would guard against the erosion issue (possibly better than the gravel, I bet). Hearing that Kentucky Blue makes a good lot system. For the pavers, the key would be to sink them enough so I can mow over it easily. No need for edging, so my little leveling trick with the white bar wouldn't work, but probably can think of a similar process...

Hmmm, you got me thinking now, what about using the edging to have a slightly "raised" grass and paver path through the lawn... increases maintenance (edging, tricker mowing, etc) but that might look kind of cool.... Ton of extra work+nebulous to nonexistent benefits=my kind of project!

spark master (author)2015-05-11

Nice project, I sorta did this around my termaters, till one year the Irish Potato Famine bacteria killed my garden forever. It is in the soil. Maybe in a few years I will try again. I could dig out the dirt and flambe it, or replace it, but to misquote the Xfiles, The Bacteria IS out there.

Now alack and alas I eat tomato at the whim of the generosity of others!

On the other hand, my thyme and rosemary, sage and oregano and chives all do well.

ciao

UrJac (author)spark master2015-05-11

Glad you liked it. Sorry to hear about the garden troubles. No tomato growing options is a sad state of affairs. Hope you find a miracle cure. All the best.

spark master (author)UrJac2015-05-11

I've had die hard fruit and vegetable-tarians offer their condolences on the loss of my garden. What might work would be to start up like 10 30 pound bags of charcoal briquets get them all glowing then rake them out to sterilize the dirt. But even that will not work unless I really get a good flame maybe 2-2.5 inches of burning embers for at least an hour or two. Then I need to add friendly bacteria back in the earth and worms, plus some green clippings and fermented cow/horse poo. I find myself with a begging bowl begging for tomatoes for the poor, tomatoes for the poor, (unfortunate slobs who had their gardens killed off by a sloppy grower in Georgia who shipped it to Long (tax) Island

danzo321 (author)spark master2015-05-31

I wonder if you would like moss to grow in the pea gravel, I like how it looks.

spark master (author)danzo3212015-06-02

nasty actually and makes really nice pollen, or some mosses do. Lately I have been very sensitised to pollen and welcome any reduction. But everyone is different. They do make a grate system you can grow grass through and mow over , looks like mesh grates with legs you set them in lawn areas used as walk ways. The perfect install has them stable and an inch or so over the grass, at just below the mowed height. The benefit is you just mow the yard, but the area set up to walk on does not get trodden down , nor turned into a slick mud walk during rainy times. If it used a lot the feet crush the stuff that tops the grates.

I think planting creeping thyme under it is better, it smells nice when you trod upon it. In the days of yore , they had "strewing herbs" stuff they tossed down on the floor and people walked over it rather then just grass or stone. It released scent, which was nice as people did not willingly bathe or wash their cloths, yearly if at all. There were days I wish they did that on the NYC Subway! Chuckle!

loony1 (author)2015-05-12

Nice looking path bro! Yes, pea gravel doesn't really stay put, but at least it is small enough to not be obtrusive, and serve as a leveling layer for the path stones. On the weed control part, I've had some success with control, for asparagus only so far, by sprinkling pickling salt around the plants. It creates am alkaline soil that weeds don't do well with, yet keeps the asparagus happy; wonder if this application would be a good fit. If it would work, one less harsh chemical to kill weeds with; kinda like not putting extra crap (plastic) in the ground. This is nicely inspiring. Thanks for the descriptive notes.

UrJac (author)loony12015-05-16

Thanks for the comments! The salt idea is a good one; I don't need to worry about interfering with other plants {no plans to plant assuages on the path at this time ;-) } but you're right that that is an environmentally friendlier option. Especially given my current approach, which is to keep a huge spray barrel of Round-up around (to be fair, I really have no idea where Round-up falls on the Enviro-Friendly spectrum). Anyway, you've inspired me and I'm going to look into trying that!

Ralphxyz (author)2015-05-10

Nice job, looks great.

Black "Landscape Cloth" is fabric not plastic that should have gone beneath your rocks.

You didn't remove any topsoil from under your path in a few years you might find the path settling in unexpected ways but for now enjoy!!

UrJac (author)Ralphxyz2015-05-11

Thanks very much, I'm glad you like it.

It's a fair point; the materials I had seen before were polypropylene based, even if woven in a fabric-like material, but I certainly don't know every product out there. Maybe some of it isn't plastic-based. Still not a huge fan of its use.

In my case the ground was remarkably hard packed, so I think I'll be OK with settling, but I figure if it does distort a little I now know how to adjust it back up. Before I finished the area (pre-mulch) I separated out another few barrels of rocks, so I have lots of patch-material.

It's a good point to take the underlying earth density into account; I can think of some other areas in the yard where either soft earth or erosion would have taken a quick toll.

Thanks again!

spark master (author)Ralphxyz2015-05-11

We had brick work done years ago then did remove soil and laid down a bed like doing a bathroom floor, (a mud job prep). It lasted nicely for over ten years, a few years ago we noticed some slight dips. It does pay to prep and area if you can afford it. Additionally I would use weed block. Political signs are free after the election, and made from non bio degradable plastic. I suggest you seal the ends of the coroplast with caulk/sealant, after cutting to size. (so bugs can't use the space for condo's).

My grandfather used to use sheet linoleum tossed out by homeowners who remodeled kitchens before ceramic tile came into wide spread use. Very little weeding in his garden, lotsa tomato's. Of course fish heads/guts compost and horse poo (in the very old days) helped a lot.

JaymeB1 (author)2015-05-10

Hi! Thanks for sharing your hard work, including the ups and downs. My husband and I hate cutting grass. Getting our two teenagers to do anything would be a miracle. So, we're brainstorming ideas to fill the lawn with other stuff, such as ground covering plants/flowers, and paths like you've demonstrated. Thanks for breaking it down into a realistic and not-so-intimidating project!

As for the re-use of materials - BRAVO! We were flat broke for a few years (d/t illness), and it ignited a creative spirit. We found ways to re-use just about everything!

UrJac (author)JaymeB12015-05-11

I'm really glad you (and apparently a lot of others) liked it.

On the "re-use": I really enjoy it when I can take something from the pile of "spare" stuff and make it work for something new. Not that I mind using new materials where I have to, but if I can use up old stuff when creating something new then it's a double win.

sarah.young.2345 (author)2015-05-09

Great re-use of materials, takes recycleing to a new level. Nice job and looks good too. Thansk

UrJac (author)sarah.young.23452015-05-11

Thank you! I find that if you present it right, you can make being cheap a virtue.

;-)

AlanTeed (author)2015-05-07

Nice job. Enjoyed the description and plan to use a number of your steps on the reincarnation of our patio from hell.

UrJac (author)AlanTeed2015-05-11

Thank you very much. Good luck with your patio.

bradk3 (author)2015-05-07

I'm just about to rebuild a pathway in my yard as well. You've given some really good pointers here about keeping the edging at the right height and leveling off the flagstones. I'll be using these tips (and blessing your name) in just a couple of weeks. Thanks!

UrJac (author)bradk32015-05-11

Good luck with yours! Let us know how you do.

8chilipeppers (author)2015-05-06

This looks great and you gave good tips on leveling. Very good way to screen rocks also! Good job!

UrJac (author)8chilipeppers2015-05-06

Thanks very much!

NathanSellers (author)2015-05-06

This looks great! Great job at the leveling. that can be hard sometimes.

UrJac (author)NathanSellers2015-05-06

Thank you for your kind words. I'm hoping that the rock layer under the pavers holds things reasonably level for a while. The nice thing is now I know how to re-level them if I need to.

All the best to you.

tinamink (author)2015-05-06

Well done! I'm a firm believer in reusing everything possible around the house but my husband is from the "if it isn't new and bought for this job, it's crap" which makes projects like this a nightmare for us, lol.

UrJac (author)tinamink2015-05-06

Thanks! Trying to find a use for old stuff is half the satisfaction I get out of a new project. The results are often unexpectedly better than the original plan, too. It helps when you don't feel too sure what you're doing. :-)

seamster (author)2015-05-06

The new walk looks excellent!

I really like the screen you made too. Thank you for sharing this. I'm inspired!

UrJac (author)seamster2015-05-06

Thank you! I was really pleased with how the screens worked out. Share your inspiration with us when you're ready!

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