Introduction: Green Solar Powered Water Barrel Version 2

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I am back after my first version of solar powered water tank

https://www.instructables.com/id/Green-Solar-Powe.... .

I moved and lost the convenience of my previous system but I have plans for a larger garden this time. The new owners of the house and water system absolutely love it! I decided to replicate and upgrade the design to match the needs of where we now live due to higher summer water restrictions. First thing you need is something to hold your recovered rainwater in. My new design uses two recycled FOOD GRADE water totes of 250 imp. gallons (275 US gallons) each. They cost about $150 each and I easily sourced them though www.used.ca You You can see whats available in your area by simply googling "1000 liter water tote near me". You can get them much cheaper if you don't care about what they were used for originally (lubricant, pesticide etc).

I would HIGHLY recommend that you DO NOT USE ANYTHING OTHER THAN A FOOD GRADE CONTAINER if you are watering plants, animals or storage for consumption. Only use the non-food grade containers to store water for firefighting, pressure washing or similar. The food totes that I've seen are 250 gallons and 300 gallons and all come with an integral valve at the bottom and a fill cap on the top. I'm sure there are other sizes out there but these seem to be the most common.

An important thing to remember is to connect all of your water barrels with a common manifold so that they all drain and fill at the same time if using a single supply source as I have. You can see the white PVC tube between the two barrel outlets that allows both filling and draining at the same time.

These barrels weigh a considerable amount when full, about 4150 lbs for the water alone, then another 140 lbs per tank! Make sure that when you design a stand you consider the surface you putting them on that it is firm enough not to sink, and if you are raising them above ground that you use wood that can support 2 cars!!! Remember that just because it doesn't fall down right away, doesn't mean it won't.....and normally at a time when you need the water really bad or when it can hurt someone or something.

Step 1: All Downspouts Rerouted

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My new system uses the water collected from two sheds with a roof area of 450ftsq and all four downspouts (two from each roof) are rerouted into a single barrel opening.

The 'splicing' of the downspouts into a single pipe involved a set of small metal shears and a 1/2" drill bit to get the hole started. Once the pipes are connected they need to be held together with small metal screws (designed for downspouts) and a sealant (designed for gutters) that will prevent your recovered water from splashing out of your newly joined non-factory joints.

Step 2: Primary Filter From Downspouts

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Roofs and downspouts collect all manner of debris and I would prefer it not be inside my water tanks and inevitably inside the pump.

I manufactured a primary filter by using two layers of 1/4" x 1/4" steel mesh slightly offset from each other to create smaller holes. This was then placed over the end of a piece of firewood with the same dimension as the tank top opening, and hammered until it produced a 'bowl' that would fit tightly inside the tank opening but still have a lip and not fall in.

Step 3: Secondary Filter Before Pump

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while the primary filter removed the larger stuff like pine needles and leaves, there are things like seeds and other crud that can damage the pump or plug the hose nozzle. So this filter is inline on the tank output to filter all of the smaller stuff. It uses a reusable nylon mesh than catches the small bits and can be rinsed off.

I managed to find this item in one of our local hardware stores here, so don't know whats available in your area. Here is a link for information.

http://www.homedepot.com/p/DIG-3-4-in-Hose-Thread-...

here is the ball valve that I used as a shutoff for both tanks

https://www.homedepot.ca/en/home/p.ball-valve-1-in...

To enable connection of the tank to standard plumbing sized pipes and fittings I used the following parts to adapt the industrial tank opening down to 1" PVC.

The first part to connect to the output of the tank ball valve is the large end of the larger rubber coupling

https://www.homedepot.ca/en/home/p.flexible-coupli...

The next part goes into the smaller opening of the larger rubber coupling

https://www.homedepot.ca/en/home/p.poly-reducing-m...

The next part connects between the reducer and the final 1" PVC piping.

Here is the smaller rubber coupling

https://www.homedepot.ca/en/home/p.tubular-drain-c...

Step 4: Outlet From Secondary Filter Into Garden Shed

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simply a hole in the back of the shed for the hose to pass through :)

Step 5: The Hose Protection Tray

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the hose runs along the back wall inside the shed, but may inadvertently have stuff placed on it. To prevent damage or loss of water, I ran the hose between 2x4's as protection.

Step 6: RV Water Pump and Battery

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I used a full size car/marine battery in this version of the water system as the volume of water stored is much greater at almost 600 gallons (between the two tanks) if the tanks are topped right up to the top opening.

The water pump is a typical RV water pump with built in pressure switch so the pump is not always running unless the pressure drops when you squeeze the nozzle. This prevents dead-heading the pump (pumping a pressure in a closed system). Keep the consideration of battery size, water volume potentially pumped and current requirements of your pump when considering the pairing of pump, battery and solar panel.

The battery I used , when I bought it was on sale and good reviews.

http://www.canadiantire.ca/en/pdp/motomaster-nauti...

The water pump I used, no sale but good reviews.

https://www.amazon.ca/SHURflo-4008-101-E65-Revolut...

In these photos it does not show all the routed wiring and the protective wooden lid was removed for ease of viewing. Everything was connected as per my hand drawn schematic.

There has been some good dialog in the comments section as to safety when dealing with batteries and for cohesiveness I will restate the important parts below.

BATTERY SAFETY

Open battery terminals are a hazard if they are in an open area that is potentially subjected to contaminants (liquid or solid) as these can lead to 'tracking' (where the battery finds a minor conductive path) or where they can directly contact a conductive material creating a short (create a current path between positive and negative).

Be careful when connecting to the battery to not short out the battery terminals as this can allow an excessive amount of current and vaporize (yes literally) the conducting object between them, whether this is wire, watch or even a screwdriver and cause burns and fires.

Do not forget that when a lead acid battery charges it produces small amounts of hydrogen gas which needs to be able to vent to outside as it is flammable. Do not smoke around a charging battery!
Do not store or subject your battery to direct sunlight or heat as this can cause your battery to dry out and/or potentially damage the battery case with warping and cracking causing acid leaks.

Any acid on or around the battery should be neutralized with baking soda first and then rinsed away with water before drying.

If you need to top up the electrolyte levels in a non-maintenance free battery, only used distilled water so as not to introduce contaminants into your battery acid and reduce it's longevity. Wear gloves and face-shield if adding water to a battery to minimize the potential for contact with acid.

Use an inline fuse with a current rating slightly higher than the maximum current of the pump you will be using, this will prevent the battery from potentially outputting massive current through the circuitry if a problem was to occur with any component of the system.

Step 7: 40W Solar Panel and Charge Controller

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Here is the solar panel I bought that came with it's own charge controller. This is a 40 watt panel and will recharge the battery I selected in an afternoon. For a solar panel it is important to also have a charge controller as it regulates the charge to the battery and prevents damage. The package was on sale for about 90 bucks, and CT often has sales like this so if you're not in a hurry its worth the wait.

For the electrical connections any wire of 14 gauge or larger would be more than adequate. Be extra careful when connecting to the battery to notshort out the battery terminals (create a current path between positive and negative with no load) as this can allow an excessive amount of current and vaporize (yes literally) the conducting object between them, whether this is wire, watch or even a screwdriver and cause burns.

The circuit will function without an inline fuse, but can be dangerous should a short occur with the pump, wiring or switch. So for safety safe use an inline fuse with a current rating slightly higher than the maximum current of the pump you will be using. These can be picked up at any hardware or Canadian tire store.

I have included a sketched schematic of how to connect all the required items. Always follow the manufactures directions for connecting the solar panel and charge regulator as there can be slight differences in connection requirements. My drawing is a guideline. The important things to remember are to fuse the input supply from the battery at a slightly higher amperage than the maximum your pump can draw and to follow that with a switch before the pump. This is important as if you have to work on the pump for whatever reason you can shut off the supply voltage and remove the possibility of a short.

I ended up making a custom bracket to hold my panel away from the side of the shed and at about a 30 degree angle from vertical, aiming south to catch the afternoon sun.

Here is a link for the inline fuse.

http://www.canadiantire.ca/en/pdp/littelfuse-heavy...

Here is a link for the solar panel and charge regulator.

http://www.canadiantire.ca/en/pdp/coleman-40w-fold...

Step 8: Outlet From Pump to Hose Reel

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Simply a hose reel that I found and liked.

No photo of the spray nozzle, so use the one you like :)

Here is the one I used.

http://www.homehardware.ca/en/rec/index.htm/Outdoo...

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Comments

beecroft (author)2017-06-17

Awesome, excellent build and instructable! I install greywater and rainwater systems for a living so I love seeing stuff like this. My only suggestion would be to paint the tank to make it light-proof (or use an opaque tank). The white tanks are translucent, and any light will eventually lead to algae growth. It's not really a problem or health concern, it's more aesthetic - the tank walls will get covered in green slime.

dwieland (author)beecroft2017-06-19

The slime thing is puzzling. I have a 700 gallon tank that I bought from the local farm co-op years ago for use as a rainwater cistern. It's translucent white polyethelene, and I expected algae growth and therefore prepared to paint it to block light. But before I got around to the painting, I noticed that there was very little algae, certainly not green slime covering the walls, so I've left it natural. It sits at the western end of my house and is shaded most of the day, but it still gets lots of light and some direct sun.

My rainwater collection system is still a work in progress, and I haven't yet devised anything I'm happy with. But the cistern has gotten good use for temporary storage of water from the backyard pond when it's time to clean it. The pond gets some string algae every summer, but that doesn't seem to grow in the cistern. The mysteries of algae!

dwieland (author)dwieland2017-09-18

You can see what I'm talking about at https://permies.com/t/70055/Rainwater-tank-questions-evaporation-sunlight#590302.

damoelld (author)beecroft2017-06-23

thanks!

I have plans to close in the tanks at the end of summer with basically a mini shed :)

queenofstring (author)2017-09-11

Perfect timing, we are in BC, Canada and just hauled 4 of these to our new home today :-). Quick question, when both tanks are full, is there an overflow that I missed, or do you just move the down pipes? We have a lot of rain, usually up to June then nothing through the summer. I think there would be times in the rainy seasons when I would get to overflow. Thanks for posting, super helpful.

YukonJulie (author)2017-06-25

Just wondering if I am missing something as this instructable seems to end abruptly at the end of Step 8?

damoelld (author)YukonJulie2017-06-27

I figured that I didn't need to include a photo of the spray nozzle as that would have been the next photo (if I included it), so no you didn't miss anything :)

heuretic (author)2017-06-08

The translucent poly tanks used here may degrade rather quickly (less than 5 years - due to your latitude, your mileage may vary) by crazing from sunlight and cosmic rays. Enclosing them in wooden boxes or putting them in a small storage shed will lengthen their useful time considerably.

dwieland (author)heuretic2017-06-19

My above-ground translucent poly cistern has been in place for over 15 years with no sign of crazing. It was made for farm use, so perhaps it's a more UV-stable poly.

heuretic (author)dwieland2017-06-20

You'e quite right. Recycled polyethylene (or other recycled plastics)
can consist of a high percentage of degraded short-chain molecules which are more inherently unstable than virgin polyethylene. The addition of recycled poly to virgin stock can also increase the amount of fugitive catalyst in the plastic, which promotes degradation. Good quality virgin resin from a reputable manufacturer makes for superior products, as can be said about any manufacturing operation.

damoelld (author)heuretic2017-06-12

Good point and I was thinking along the same lines. I will be using some of the leftover metal roofing from the gardenshed build and making a 'mini' shed around the water barrels at the end of the summer.

PeterTheUnGreat (author)2017-06-08

Hi,
If you are keen to keep the quality of the water as high as possible then excluding light from the tanks will discourage growth of stuff in the water. One effective way of keeping light out is to bury the tanks. Buring the tanks will also keep the water at a more even tempreature. I have read that using copper rainwater goods (gutter and downpipe) helps to sterilise the collected water

damoelld (author)PeterTheUnGreat2017-06-12

Unfortunately these tanks are not designed for burial. The type that are cost significantly more. As for copper, I'm not sure as to the cleansing properties but it would not be cheap :)

dwieland (author)damoelld2017-06-19

Copper is toxic to algae -- and to fish.

Deaners69 (author)dwieland2017-06-20

....and to plants

PeterTheUnGreat (author)damoelld2017-06-13

Yes, I admit my comments are more aimed at the theoretical ideal installation. I guess that using these tanks you would have to build an underground enclosure with a concrete load-bearing roof. (not simple or cheap)

JeffM302 made it! (author)2017-06-08

I've been following Dane Wigington's www.geoengineeringwatch.org, and would be wary of collecting large amounts of rainwater this way... it is not as pure as it used to be, just twenty years ago! People are taking recent rainwater samples to EPA certified labs for analysis and finding toxic levels of aluminum, barium, strontium, lithium, to name a few. Where does this come from? Here: large jets that make "persistent contrails" are spraying clouds of filth right over our heads, and most people either ignore it, "Jets don't spray chemicals!" or dismiss it as 'conspiracy theory'. I would find a way to purify my rainwater before I use it...

betrice (author)JeffM3022017-06-17

Interesting about the jet contamination aspect. I give rain barrel classes around the Virginia Beach, VA area and we have more than our share of jets passing over. In addition, we live on brackish water. I am a Master Gardener and am well educated in most aspects of rain harvest. The Cooperative Extension holds classes to educate the public on well water safety. Although not exactly the same, these are sister issues. You can submit a water sample to them and they will analyze it for you for a small cost. It is sent off to the nearest state lab and the results sent to you in a couple of weeks, sometimes sooner. I decide to check my well and I couldn't believe how pure, yes pure my water was! I live on the water and have chickens and some of the well connections are old school metal. I was stunned! Some additional thoughts, to eliminate the algae add goldfish. They eat the algae, don't mind if they have sunlight and if you like carp, you can dip them out before they are too big to get out of the hole and have lunch. To eliminate the mosquitoes, add olive oil to put a film on the top of the water. The mosquitoes lay their eggs but the larvae cannot develop because they need oxygen to breath and the oil prevents them from penetrating the surface from the bottom. They simply die. Don't have much knowledge about pumps and if the oil would be problematic with it. I add 3 tablespoons to a 55 gallon barrel but could only guess for this large container.

dcp123 (author)JeffM3022017-06-12

That strikes me as a concern for drinking the water, which he's not doing. The water he's collecting will be going on plants just like if it fell out of the sky on them. The dirt and soil microbes do a lot of filtering.

damoelld (author)JeffM3022017-06-09

I personally don't think its realistic or practical to filter all your rainwater for gardening unless you have definitive proof that your water contains unhealthy levels of something, but that is also a personal choice.

damoelld (author)2017-06-16

here was another good source for rainwater harvesting I found.

https://www.cmhc-schl.gc.ca/odpub/pdf/67925.pdf

explosivemaker (author)2017-06-08

window screen material is much finer than wire mesh

damoelld (author)explosivemaker2017-06-09

Good idea, and I am considering that as a component in the new filter

explosivemaker (author)damoelld2017-06-14

I have used it for a completely unrelated task and it was perfectly fine after many rinsing and re-using

the metal kind will likely last longer

dcp123 (author)explosivemaker2017-06-12

Fun idea.

A window screen would also keep mosquitoes from flying in to lay their eggs. I'd probably use something like the 1/4" welded wire as an easily cleaned basket for large debris (possibly in the top of a bucket), then a window screen completely blocking an opening (perhaps a hole cut in the bottom of a bucket and would insure a tight fit between the pipe or bucket with the screen and the opening in the tank to keep out the mosquitoes.

But I'd also want another filter before the pump unless using a pump rated to handle debris (trash pump).

Stavros! (author)2017-06-08

Nice setup! I checked on your pump, as it's exactly what I'm looking for, but they don't ship to my area. Odd. Personally, I don't like bottom fill setups, as that means they share dirty water equally. If you top fill, the first barrel ends up with whatever dirt gets through your filter, and the second, and however many units you have connected gets cleaner water, because they don't get filled until the first one is filled. If you want both to drain at the same time, you only need to add a back flow valve to your exit valves. I don't care for the occasional cleaning of my barrels, I wonder how often you need to clean yours. I also wonder if one of the many different five gallon bucket filters would work better for you on top of your tanks instead of that screen?

Also, with so many downspouts connected to your tanks, is that because you don't get much rain, or because you use a lot of water and want to fill up as fast as possible?

damoelld (author)Stavros!2017-06-14

Google 'shutflo' and it should give you the manufacturers website and then you can find a local distributor in your area. Cheers

damoelld (author)Stavros!2017-06-09

On the contrary, we get LOTS of rain but I only wanted a single input to the system and a single place for the tanks. There are lots of great ideas out there for primary filters, and this is an initial filter put in place to enable me to start the water capture while I build the final version.

Stavros! (author)damoelld2017-06-12

I only mention a better intake filter because of the hassle of cleaning out a barrel when the silt gets deep enough to make the water smell. It's easier to use a better filter immediately than it is to clean the inside of your container(s).

damoelld (author)Stavros!2017-06-13

I agree, and will be upgrading the primary filter

MikeT215 (author)2017-06-09

Awesome project! Just be careful where you decide to build it. This is illegal in some states. Oregon for example.

Black Rook (author)MikeT2152017-06-09

Here's a resource for to help anyone trying to determine legality of rainwater harvesting in the USA: http://www.ncsl.org/research/environment-and-natur...

For example, Oregon, as you mentioned, has restrictions on rainwater collection, which may only be done from roof surfaces in that state. That is to say, collection ponds, plastic sheeting, and other non-roof methods are not permitted.

dcp123 (author)Black Rook2017-06-12

Thanks for The link. I was pretty sure it's legal in California, but it's nice to confirm it.

damoelld (author)MikeT2152017-06-09

Good point, you are correct that it is illegal in some states. So ensure you cover your butt by looking into local regulations!

jtpoutdoor (author)2017-06-11

What did you use to connect from the IBC tank to the initial PVC fitting? I have a system for connecting to black alkathene pipe but haven't been able to come up with anything cheap to connect to pvc.

damoelld (author)jtpoutdoor2017-06-12

Instructable updated with photos and links for connecting parts.

Enjoy

damoelld (author)jtpoutdoor2017-06-11

I think I have a photo of the individual components before I assembled it if I can find it I will upload it. Cheers

Chimonger (author)2017-06-09

This is very cool! BUT...I'd avoid using garden hoses...those are loaded with toxic chemicals that outgas into the water going through them. We opt for the white RV potable water hoses, to avoid most of that. We use the white RV potable water hoses to water our food gardens, to avoid adding chemicals to the foods growing.

Alt., could use PEX tubing, which is resistant to freeze damage, and, far lower outgassing of nasty chemicals, than even PVC pipe.

damoelld (author)Chimonger2017-06-09

thanks, and good points

buck2217 (author)2017-06-09

Cool setup, I have a similar setup tho with a mains pump, also in NZ we have the freedom to use our roof water as and when we want (I have 2 x 50,000 liyre tanks for dtinking/wash water as we are not on the mains) So much for the land of the free! ;-) (BTW I'm Royal NZ Navy shippers - regards to RCN (we send some of our lads to you for training))

damoelld (author)buck22172017-06-09

wow, that's some large tanks!

I just retired in the fall. 30 years done :)

buck2217 (author)damoelld2017-06-09

Congratulations on the retirement, I am coming up to 40 years a sailor next year 4 in the merch ,25 in RN , 10 in RNZN. Hope to retire soon

damoelld (author)buck22172017-06-09

congrats. Most people don't realize the level of personal sacrifice that goes into a full career in the military.

Enjoy your retirement as I am :)

Chimonger (author)2017-06-09

Could maybe couple a simple solar water distiller onto this, to do the brunt of water purification. Could use a sand filter to remove most of the contaminants.

damoelld (author)Chimonger2017-06-09

all good ideas, but I wanted this to be as simple a solution as possible :)

ColinN8 (author)2017-06-08

My only advice would be to add a ball valve near the bottom of the tank connected to mains so your pump never runs dry.

damoelld (author)ColinN82017-06-09

Each tank has its own independent ball valve and additionally I installed a ball valve (the red handle) that cuts off both tanks from the pump line. This is also in place to isolate the pump line for winter draining.

ColinN8 (author)damoelld2017-06-09

damoelld, I meant float valve connected to mains not ball valve, mounted low in the tank, to protect your pump from running dry.

damoelld (author)ColinN82017-06-09

that's an awesome idea. unfortunately the sheds/garden/tanks are almost 150 ft from a house water supply, but for someone else that may be the perfect solution. I tried to work around that with the 500 gallon tank supply, and if that doesn't prove to be enough I will double it for next year

MikkoA2 (author)ColinN82017-06-08

That backup inlet would be at mains pressure and would fill up the tanks and then some, unless you regulate the water level somehow, like adding a level sensor to switch the valve off.

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