Growing Apple trees from seed. by potato wings
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 Hello.
I am going to tell you how to grow apple trees from seed. This is a lot more complicated than just throwing a few seeds in the ground, but with my help I can show you how.
 
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Step 1: Materials needed

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 You will need:
An apple
Compost
Pots
Paper towel
plastic bag
Knife
Later On:
Grafting tape or Cling film
Grafting Wax or Masking tape



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Roy Glen Gilliam says: Apr 10, 2013. 9:45 PM
You can also do cross grafting when the tree gets large. Try and graft a pecan, or an orange branch to one of it's many branches. You can wrap the base of the graft in plastic to keep out infection...
joel.r.bradley says: Feb 4, 2013. 4:37 PM
Views from someone who had an internship breeding apples:

1. There is fundamental misunderstanding, in this article, of how apples are bred and grown.
2. Red Delicious originated from one seed, Honeycrisp originated from one seed, all varieties of apples you find in the store, originate from one seed. They are then cloned through grafting. Planting a Honeycrisp seed will not produce a Honey Crisp apple. Only by grafting (cloning) a piece of a Honeycrisp tree, can you get another Honeycrisp apple tree. Planting apple seeds will produce new, random, and unique apple trees.*
3. A good reason to graft your apple tree would be to put it on dwarf root stock. These are specially bred trees, grown for their roots. These roots are hardy, will produce shorter trees, and produce fruit earlier. This root stock is available online if you are interested.
4. Grafting one apple seedling onto another apple seedling is pointless. All you are doing is swapping one mystery apple tree onto the roots of another mystery apple tree. The characteristic of apple that the tree will produce is determined by genetics of the top graft, which is determined at the time of pollination of the seed. The act of grafting doesn't change the grafts genetics.
5. While your understanding of this is incorrect, your skill in grafting is excellent. Apple root stock is cheap, and grafting material is usually free if you know someone who has a tree. This is a good way to plant an orchard for almost free.
* I spent an internship working at the UofMinnesota apple breeding center (the same one that produced Honeycrisp), we would start by making crosses, then plant over a thousand seeds, we would then let nature kill most (test for cold hardiness and disease), the survivors would be grafted onto root stock. We would go through the fruit that these seeds produced, most where discarded because of small fruit size, poor fruit quality, bad flavor, ect. But a very few would stand out and be the next big apple for the market.
joel.r.bradley says: Feb 4, 2013. 4:40 PM
Botany of Desire, by Michael Pollan does a pretty good job of explaining the issue of breeding apples. FYI.
Livingsimply123 says: Feb 3, 2013. 6:19 PM
I took seeds from the store produce and let them germinate...in 5 days they had sprouted.. I planted them in a pot and one week later they have already started to come out of the dirt and grow. They seem to be happy and healthy..does anyone know how to make them more sturdy when the trunk starts to come in?
alkemy says: Nov 13, 2012. 6:24 PM
When you plant an apple tree from seed, it will not share the characteristics of the parent. IOW, if you plant a honeycrisp, you will not get a honeycrisp. This is why apple trees are grafted. But, you will get some kind of apple, it'll just be a mystery apple, which is fun.
DanYHKim says: Jan 30, 2013. 8:04 AM
The caution that starting seed from grocery-store fruit is usually applied to hybridized vegetables such as tomatoes and peppers and the like. These come from plants that are crosses between two different strains to give a combination of desirable traits. These traits may be re-shuffled in the resulting seeds, giving a random assortment of traits in saved seed.

Fruit trees are similarly bred and hybridized, but I do not know if they are similarly genetically unstable. When a good combination of traits is achieved in a fruit tree, it is propagated by cuttings, so all of the trees produced are a clone. In addition fruit trees are bred for fruiting characteristics, but their hardiness and vigor is not as carefully selected. Instead, a strain of fruit tree that is known for its vigor is used as a grafting rootstock. Cuttings are grafted to the rootstock to confer strength to the resulting tree.

Seed-grown fruit trees may not be as vigorous or hardy as grafted trees from a nursery, although they may produce good fruit.
bellemorte. says: Nov 6, 2012. 2:45 PM
Just a note:
Choosing seeds of organically grown apples from your farmers markets over these seeds will give you multiple advantageous and prevent damages to your environment;
1. Seeds of locally grown plants have already adapted for the climate, and insect predators and will in time become trees with these traits in their DNA, and the DNA of their offspring - evolving with each cycle to be more hearty and more productive (upon tending).
2. Plants are not only threatened in their native environments by bacteria, fungus, insects, mammals and climate, but also by pathogens (think of the flu, a pathogen amongst humans) and unlike all the others, once some pathogens are introduced in your soil, they virulently spread, replicate and evolve to predate upon area vegetation within that family (for apples it would be roses, raspberries) and can never be removed from your soil, and will only continue to worsen - if you move the tree, you move the pathogen, and it will be in that soil forever.

P.S.: Rule of thumb is, the planting depth of a seed is double it's own diameter.
aussiejbl says: Sep 29, 2012. 11:03 AM
I don't understand this step
bwilliams-1 says: Oct 19, 2011. 3:23 PM
I do not understand what the white plastic bag does in the step 3 photos. Can you explain please? Thank you. Nice tutorial.
deaks says: Sep 11, 2012. 10:50 AM
I believe the bag is to hold in the moisture. Otherwise your seeds are just sitting on a dry towel and will never germinate.
lilacwhisper says: Jul 12, 2012. 9:36 AM
So... Can I use a graph off of one of my other saplings? Or does it have to be from a full grown fruit bearing tree??
Soulsbane says: Mar 30, 2012. 7:31 AM
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Soulsbane says: Mar 30, 2012. 8:22 AM
I was wondering, how long does it take the apple tree to grow to 30-60 cm?
GerminationGrower says: Feb 25, 2012. 1:12 PM
To be honest, I don't care if my apple seed grows to a crab apple tree. I would be just happy that I grew a tree. I germinated my seed much differently, and It grew in 2 weeks. A 1 and a half inch tall plant in 2 weeks. I took a small bowl,about 2 inches wide and, 1 and a half inches long. I put soil and pushed down the seed. I rapped water aroudn my fingers for about 3 mintues and dripped tiny droplets of water in the bowl until it was moist, with the soil in the bowl, and seed pushed in. Then I took a sandwich plastic baggy and rapped it around the bowl and it left the bag upwards about 3 inches over the bowl. I took a rubber band and put it around the bag part that was around the bowl. Then I put it in the sun. It started growing and condensation filled inside of the bag and it kept the soil moist. My plant looks like how yours did. With the 2 round leaves and the 2 narrow leaves going diagnally upward. This method of growing seeds is much better and promising then the method of germinating in a paper towel. I have tried the paper towel germination 4 times with no luck, and the bowl with the plastic bag and rubber band in the sun once, and that succeded far more and faster. My plant grows taller each day I see it. Thank you for reading.
rickharris says: May 11, 2010. 11:49 PM
Because pollination is random most apple seeds won't produce the original apple, often a crab apple results which is inedible.

The majority of grafted apples are grafted on to crab apple root stock as this is usually a more vigorous grower. Often modern apples can be found grafted onto dwarf root stock to limit the eventual height of the tree.

Growing apples is fun, drinking cider is much more fun!!


Bown86 says: Jul 23, 2010. 2:29 PM
Crab apples are delicious!! They are, indeed, edible. They make wonderful pies, and other desserts, and are yummy just to chew on. :)
Hengrachna says: Feb 21, 2012. 2:40 AM
Dear Bown,

I would like to ask you where can i buy apple seed to grow, can you introduce me some seller or supply.

Thanks.
Rachna
Bown86 says: Feb 21, 2012. 4:40 AM
I guess a store that sells trees and shrubs? Or a gardening supplier.

I have never bought apple seeds before, so I am not really sure, sorry.

Personally I have always just planted seeds from apples I have bought and have hoped for the best. Being from Newfoundland many of the apples that I buy are local the seeds always seem to grow nice trees. Also, you do not need to graft your tree to grow edible fruit, none of my trees have been grafted and almost all of them have regular apples.
caruhh says: Oct 19, 2011. 9:44 PM
Grafting is necessary to get the genes of the parent (tasty apples) and so its already mature, making apples, otherwise you'd have to wait years for fruit to produce (mature) on your immature sprout
Hengrachna says: Feb 21, 2012. 2:39 AM
Hi caruhh,

I would like to ask you where can i buy apple seed, can you introduce me some supplier or sell, thanks in advance.
Rachna
Hengrachna says: Feb 21, 2012. 2:38 AM
Hi!

I would like to get some advise from every one, who know where can i find apple seed suppliers or seller.
I would like to buy apple seed, If you know please kindly advise.Thanks.:)
Terri1ND says: Jan 4, 2012. 1:23 PM
crab apples are edible & in fact I have 2 crab apple trees & my husband loves a Dutch Crabapple Jam I make. They also are wonderful for animals. I caught my chickens chasing a squirrel and a pheasant away from the crabapple trees.
bowow0807 says: Aug 2, 2011. 6:28 AM
yay now i can start making some cider! I have some other grafting techniques from a cider making book
getyourshoes says: Feb 6, 2011. 4:17 PM
I have heard that red tip photinias can be used as root stock when grafting apple trees but haven't found it in print anywhere. Does anyone know if that is possible or has anyone tried it for themselves?
JcBeaver says: Jul 31, 2010. 12:40 PM
If you have to graft it to make apples, then how are apples made in the wild?
geoslim13 says: Oct 4, 2010. 9:38 AM
grafting isnt really necessary it only is if you want to make different breeds of apples
JcBeaver says: Oct 22, 2010. 3:07 PM
apple growing seems too complicated for me, so i'll just stick to pears... :)
potato wings (author) says: Oct 4, 2010. 10:14 AM
Grafting is necessary as if you do not graft you will get a crab apple
carlos1w says: May 12, 2010. 7:18 AM
Very interesting.  Pardon my ignorance, but could you tell me why grafting is required?  If you planted the seed of a desirable apple, wouldn't that work without grafting?  Thank you for the instructable.
georion says: Jun 14, 2010. 6:58 PM
if you want EDIBLE apples you have to graft otherwise you may not live long enough to grow EDIBLE apples----apples are an amazing genetic Universe --research is an amazing Process !!!!!!!!!!!!
potato wings (author) says: May 13, 2010. 9:23 AM
 I graft because if you just left the apple tree to grow from the seed it would cross polinate with another tree and there would be an almost impossible chance of it ever producing apples.
jtobako says: May 15, 2010. 7:58 PM
Watch your tense on your verbs-would is future tense, had or has is the past tense you are looking for. 
jtobako says: May 12, 2010. 6:46 PM
Most variants of apple are hybrids, and don't breed true.  The ones that do are crossed to create apples, not good rootstock, and so aren't as hardy.  There is also a matter of aging-a tree won't produce until it is a certain age (oaks don't produce acorns until they are about 50 years old) but the graft thinks it's as old as the original tree, not as old as the rootstock or graft.
ironsmiter says: May 14, 2010. 7:48 PM
I don't think you put enough emphasis on this part

" the graft thinks it's as old as the original tree, not as old as the rootstock"


That's the MAJOR reason for "not getting flowers" on the grafts. Apple Trees, most varieties anyhow, take 6-10 years before they are mature enough to produce flowers/fruit, when grown from a seedling.

Another concern is, the rootstock of most of the "good fruit" is inferior to hardy, native crabapples.

My family apple tree(died 12 years ago @nearly 100 years old) was crabapple stock. Infact, about 20% of the tree continued to produce crabapples till the day it died. The grafts where Johnathon and McIntosh. All three varieties of fruit formed every year on the same tree.
lemonie says: May 11, 2010. 1:28 PM
W/ref grafting - if you're growing your own rootstock, what are the best apples to use?

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potato wings (author) says: May 13, 2010. 9:26 AM
 Which ever apple you like best, it doesn't really make a difference
lemonie says: May 13, 2010. 1:05 PM
What is the point in grafting then?

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georion says: Jun 14, 2010. 6:55 PM
Point of grafting is to get EDIBLE Apples !!!!! Research is an amazing thingy!!!!!!!!!!!!
potato wings (author) says: May 13, 2010. 2:22 PM
 You graft because if you don't there is a 1 in a million chance your trees will produce apples because, say you have a granny apple seed it won't pollinate properly it will pollinate with some other tree, and you will get no apples or crab apples at best. That's why you graft.
lemonie says: May 13, 2010. 2:55 PM
Pollination happens with the flowers. What difference does it make whether it's a single tree, or a grafted part-of?
I know at least 5 non-grafted apple trees that do produce apples, that's not a 1030 lucky chance...

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