Gen 2. HAWC Bow

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These instructions are for more experienced builders. In particular the complexity of the stock made it very difficult to get clear step by step pictures.There will only be three steps here as the gun cannot be broken down into very many parts. Good Luck.
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This newly remodeled i Bow. Modifications to the original include but are not limited to: Sight upgrade, adjustable cheek riser, new stock and performance improvements.

From experience this gun performs about 10% better than the original.

Wall of text explaining the hybrid system used in the gun below, don't read it if you don't like reading.

The (i/L) Bow uses a one of a kind system that combines a Pin system with a ratchet slingshot. This allows it to retain the use of a turret and simple ammo whilst giving the gun more power as the bands do not put pressure on the pin. Furthermore the gun can handle a ridiculous amount of bands as the pin is not kept user strain and the user is not required to pull the whole number of bands back at once as is needed on a pin gun, instead the user can elect to pull back first one half of the bands and then the other making loading easier. However the drawback of this is that it takes far longer to (re)load. Personally I would not recomend this for a knex war as the reload time and weight of this gun make the user vunerable to users of weapons such as TR's or oodammo pistols. However if only slingshot weapons are being used this gun shines as very few repeating slingshots are viable for wars due to general fidlyness and long reload times when ammo is reinserted.

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Step 1: Front End

includes turret, barrel, grip, sights and bow limbs.

this is the easier half of the gun as it is simpler.

All the parts are shown then the assembly.

SYMEN says: Sep 27, 2012. 3:56 PM

Okay I figured out what the problem was. I forgot to add a pin guide in the middle section, it works now. It's destroying more crap with #64's on than it does with latex surgical tubing attached.Might be because #64's have more tensile strength if they're applied in numbers. Surgical tubing and regular bands are basically about the same though. Here are a few pictures of mine. The pictures are not exactly up to date but it shows you what I've been working on for the past week and gets the point across.

SYMEN in reply to SYMENSep 27, 2012. 4:06 PM

Sorry, the images didn't show up, here:

SYMEN says: Sep 18, 2012. 5:54 PM

Okay, I built a hybrid similar to this one(more like my own actually), and I already have a problem. on the firing system I am using a very strong 7'' diameter rubber band for the ram, when I stretch the band back to hook it on the ratchet, slide the pin back, and quickly adapt a front end and load it to fire I'm getting like 5-10 foot shots when I am supposed to be getting 300-400 feet with the band I am using. Any ideas? Some help from somebody would be very much appreciated.

Fred the Penguin (author) in reply to SYMENSep 27, 2012. 3:39 AM

Make sure there is as little pin friction as possible, as well as making sure the pin doesn't flick up. lots of power will be lost that way.

Also you generally want to wahack as many bands as possible on it, a standard load for the gun above was roughly 7 #64's. A final point is that you want the pin hitting the bullet right at the end of its path.

SYMEN in reply to Fred the PenguinSep 27, 2012. 12:17 PM

Noted. Thanks for the support. I am using surgical tubing so I dont have to load a bunch of bands on it. Plus surgical tubing has incredible power behind it and its minimum breaking strength is 3,500 psi. But I guess I could still have an idea from you on how to decrease pin friction because my version of your gun is using a connector barrel instead of a tube/stick barrel. So decreasing pin friction in a connector barrel might be more difficult. I got it to fire perfectly at one point, scary as crap too. It put a hole in a steel door to my house with a finned black rod.

mulletman6 says: Sep 26, 2011. 1:52 PM

Made this when you first posted it and couldn't get it to work properly. Re-made it today and its works fine - awesome gun :)

Football viking boy says: Jul 28, 2011. 5:31 PM

very hard to follow but im 1/2 way done

Football viking boy in reply to Football viking boyJul 28, 2011. 5:38 PM

oh ya im also building this gun all in metalics

Football viking boy says: Jul 28, 2011. 11:47 AM

just starting to build this i already had two bakenbitz turrets built so i was disapointed at the begining

knex_builder_freak says: Jul 11, 2011. 10:51 AM

So amazing, 5 stars and a favorite and will build soon!

Fred the Penguin (author) in reply to knex_builder_freakJul 12, 2011. 11:05 PM

thanks send in a pic.

knex_builder_freak in reply to Fred the PenguinJul 16, 2011. 12:03 PM

Will do when I get to building it.

TheFoofinator says: Jul 11, 2011. 4:12 AM

WOW. I go for a few days on holiday, and what a treat to come back to! One of my favourite guns! That has to be the best stock I have seen.

Fred the Penguin (author) in reply to TheFoofinatorJul 12, 2011. 11:05 PM

thanks, the general response to this gun was good si I decided to post it, its my first full post since the original Bizon. And I used to suck at stocks to so thats a great compliment

old stock from FSSR = yuck.

TheFoofinator in reply to Fred the PenguinJul 13, 2011. 3:53 PM

Bleurgh! Ugly. Will build with 8 round turret asap. I dont have enough greys to make an 18.

Fred the Penguin (author) in reply to TheFoofinatorJul 13, 2011. 9:30 PM

you'll have to mod it a bit first tbh. but the oricinal I bow had an 8 shot turret on it so it will work.

just looked at the pics below for my progress.

cowscankill says: Jul 13, 2011. 5:23 PM

I subscribe to you because you make awesome stuff. It's people like you who want to make me whip out the 4 year old K'nex collection, heh. If I ever get the time/motivation, we'll see ;)

Football viking boy says: Jul 13, 2011. 12:09 PM

this is awesome! 5*

mulletman6 says: Jul 10, 2011. 3:35 PM

Making it now. Is the turret just held on by the elastic band?

Fred the Penguin (author) in reply to mulletman6Jul 10, 2011. 11:14 PM

tan clip at the front.

mulletman6 in reply to Fred the PenguinJul 11, 2011. 1:25 AM

Hmm, i copied how you had done it and my black rod was too short - then again, i already have the turret built from when i had a TR18, so the middle wheels would be different. I had to swap around a white connector and the blue connector on where the black road goes through and cut off the end of the red rod, so now it fits :)

Fred the Penguin (author) in reply to mulletman6Jul 12, 2011. 11:01 PM

ok, my turret is slightly different from the tr one anyway.