HHO car adaptation

Step 5 From container to car

Now do the same for your plastic hosing as you did for the electrodes. Melt(or cut) a hole IN THE TOP and seal your hose into it. The hose needs to be long enough to reach the outlet coming from your air filter in your car. Melt(or cut) a hole in the hose leaving your air filter and seal in the hose coming from your HHO container. Ouch, I hated to do that step. Willful destruction of car parts. It helps a lot if you have an easily removable piece like I did.
I wanted to mention it somewhere and I thought the inserting your electrodes step was already to long, wrap some teflon tape around the teeth that hold the cap on. This will cause LESS HHO to leak out the top. I don't think its possible to completly stop hydrogen from leaking out of a container while allowing easy access to pour more water in.
The water you put in this container needs to have baking soda mixed in. I read that using salt will produce chlorine gas. That seems likley to me as salt is NA CL. Sodium and chloride on their own are deadly to you but combined they sure taste good. In other words don't use it.

-updates-
-I was going to use baking soda origianly but I later read that it lets out solutions that are corossive to aluminum. Chances are your car's engine is made out of it. Furthermore, the chlorine will be coming out of your tail pipe. Who breathes in car emissions that wants to live anyway? The chlorine released is small ammounts too.

Comments

[mechno]

The energy it takes to split the water into hydrogen and oxygen is always more than the energy you well get from the combustion. The only possibility I see as opportunity for improved mileage is if the gas/air mix had too much air in it and therefore the hydrogen participating in air consumption and putting that extra oxygen to work. If this were a solar powered electrolysis, it would be another story. I also am not a mechanic so i don't know how well an engine handles water vapor in the combustion chambers.

[lloydrmc]

Who says that it's still water by the time it gets to the combustion chambers? Water injection is used quite a lot in high performance engines - vaporizing the water lowers the temperature of the intake charge.

[zack2255]

Petrol is an organic compound and contains hydrogen. When it combusts then it forms H2O and CO2 in any case

[jphipps]

im confused what did you ultimate;y end up mixing in the water

[squiggy2]

Sulfuric acid is the best to use, because it only produces more oxygen as the by-product, but again you have to make sure your container is H2SO4 safe. PVC is good for that.
And yes I can confirm, through university chemistry knowlede as well as my own personal experience that using salt does indeed produce chlorine (which is mildly corrosive to steel) but ot produces exactly half as much chlorine as it does hydrogen... weigh up your pros and cons

[4x4dan0016]

The source for the air induction is coming from wherever your air filter's air source is, not the sealed hho bottle.  The hho will be mixed with the air intake through a process called vacuum induction.  Air that passes the hho supply tube will be sucked into the air intake due from the passing air.  If the bottle has a hole in it more oxygen will be mixed, hense defeating the hole process. You have heard the term "air is everywhere," well so goes for the gas being produced, it has to go somewhere, and that's your intake. 

Here's a thought, i wonder if putting one of those tornado things you see everywhere would help mix up the molecules.  

[jawtig]

The Tornado thing is a joke. Don't do it. I have removed a few of the from peoples cars. Build one that will actually rotate inside your hose.

[oooobabyoooo]

"Those tornado things you see everywhere" are scams. See Mike Allen's Popular Mechanics piece where he fully busts these things:

http://www.popularmechanics.com/automotive/new_cars/1802932.html

They increase turbulence in the intake, where engine designers have worked very hard to smooth out airflow!

[lloydrmc]

Depends on the engine. In the intake manifold on a carburetted engine, a certain, specific type of turbulence is needed to keep the fuel droplets in suspension.

I do agree that those intake turbine systems are useless crap.

[p00002365]

Good clear instructions - best I have seen on the net - However - if you have sealed the HHO generator to prevent leaks - how does the gas get into the intake - given that there is no air getting in the HHO generator to replace the gas that is being sucked into the induction system of the engine - the vacuum produced at that point in the induction system should be enough to eventually collapse the plastic bottle if it were really sealed tight - and if it is sealed tight, then the gas can't get out - Imagine sucking on the top of a 1/2 filled water bottle - unless some air can get in, the water will not come out no matter how much vacuum you apply - up to the point where the bottle collapses -

[fozzy13]

I may be wrong, but gas is constantly being produced from the water, right? you constantly have gas being added to the container from the electrolosis in other words, so the container shouldn't collapse. I have also seen a bubbler being used in almost all HHO systems to prevent blowbacks that will destroy your generator and possibly hurt your car..

[p00002365]

Well yes - but the gas that is being produced was already there in the first place - in the form of liquid H2O - so if you strip off some of the electrons during the electrolysis process and suck them into your engine, you have less material in the bottle than when you first started - so unless you're replacing the lost material with something else, such as outside air the bottle has to collapse - and if it doesn't, then the Hydrogen is still in the bottle - the bubbler concentrates the hydrogen in a smaller volume bottle and also keeps water from getting sucked up - which will definately damage your engine -

[zmarlow]

Gas is less dense than liquid, therefore it could not buckle, because as the liquid water is converted from 2(H2O) --> 2(H2) + O2 through the electrolosys, the material is always increasing in volume. Its the reason that the lid jumps around when you are boiling water on the stove, the conversion from liquid to gas.

[fozzy13]

ummm... the container doesn't collapse. have you made a generator?? i have one in the garage that i used for months until my awesome hot glue connections wore off from the water.. when you put baking soda and vinegar into a bottle and close the lid, it pressurizes. following your argument, it shouldn't pressurize because the co2 produced was there in the first place in the form of baking soda and vinegar. i dont know the science behind it, but i know it happens.

[merseyless]

it wont produce hydrogen and oxygen that fast but the bottle wont collapse because there isn't that much of a pressure difference from inside the intakes manifold and the outside air pressure.

[jmatteson]

Guys....there isn't going to be that much if any vacuum on the juice bottle. The engine isn't sucking the gas from the bottle its just getting whatever gas that exits the tube from bottle from the electrolysis process.

Also, this isn't water vapor its separated H2O, so its 2 Hydrogen atoms and one Oxygen atom entering the combustion chamber passively, designed to make the combustion more powerful and efficient, ultimately extending you MPG.