Hack your House: Run both ethernet and phone over existing Cat-5 cable

Step 1Theory

Theory
This is made possible because of the wasteful (some may say "spare") wires in cat-5 cable.

Cat 5 cable and RJ-45 jacks have eight wires.
Ethernet uses two pairs (four wires), one for send and one for receive.
Telephones use two wires.

Therefore, you can run both ethernet and telephone over the same wire, and still have two wires left over.

In fact, you could run two Ethernet jacks from a single cat-5 cable, or four telephone lines (though I don't know why you would run multiple phone lines.)

This Instructable will focus on changing wall plates from one RJ-45 (Ethernet) jack into one RJ-45 and one RJ-11 (phone) jack.

Note that I have not done extensive testing with cross-talk between phone and ethernet, though I have seen no degradation in the quality of either when both are in use.

Also note that this procedure will not work with PoE (Power over Ethernet) devices. Nothing bad will happen, it just won't transmit power. See step 13 for a possibly unsafe way to keep your PoE and add phone service. Also, it will not work with gigabit ethernet-- gigabit ethernet uses all four pairs. It will work fine at 10/100 Mbps which is sufficient for most people.
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Jul 18, 2009. 3:07 PMScubaSteve says:
So, Theoretically, you could be able to make a LAN network wusing the existing 4-conductor telephone wire in your house? (I believe its CAT3) I know you can rout it through wires with only 4 conductors, becasuse the Ethernet cable my ISP gave me with my modem only has 4 conductors in it, but has an RJ-45 jack on the end.
Jul 8, 2010. 4:05 PMjongscx says:
yes... theoretically. but only for very short runs, as it doesn't have the twisting that cat5(e) has. this allows for longer wire runs by shielding the wire... with itself.
Apr 4, 2010. 5:47 PMcowen says:
Oh you mean ATT cable...

Red Green Black Yellow (White Blue)
Jul 23, 2009. 7:42 PMvorishan says:
Normal 4 conductor cable is not cat3 Cat3 is an 8 conductor cable. Cat3 cable would only be good for either short runs of 100TX ethernet or 10TX also this won't work if you want to use Gigabit Ethernet. (1000TX) GigE uses all 8 wires for networking. in such a case, this setup would FRY something
Jul 20, 2009. 9:20 AMfrollard says:
You can run ethernet over cat3, but no guarantees about signal quality - short short runs of 100M or longer runs of 10 meg are possible but again less stable.
Jul 19, 2009. 10:55 AMPadlock says:
Slightly correct. The wires have to be twisted - If they aren't, they will interfere with each other (This is true for most distances over six feet). The router sends two, identical waves, one positive, over negative over the twisted pair. The resulting interference is canceled out, as a result of the negative-positive averaging the other out.
Jun 13, 2010. 7:00 AMbradhouser says:
Yes, the negative and positive are required to eliminate crosstalk. I wanted to point out how they cancel each other out. Any current through a conductor also generates a magnetic field around the conductor. (If you hold your hand as a fist and stick your thumb up, your thumb represents the current through the wire, and the fingers represent the direction of the magnetic field.) By sending the exact opposite current down an adjacent wire (e.g. in a twisted pair), the two magnetic fields are cancelled out and the crosstalk is eliminated.
Jul 23, 2009. 4:09 PMAF-Geek says:
Isn't this what Cat5 was created for? I understood that the whole Idea was to run data and voice over the same line, thus the four pairs: 2 for data, and two for voice (standard used to be to wire an RJ-11 for two lines). Another caveat to this idea: You must have a "home-run" type system; i.e.: all cables must run from jack to central distribution box without breaks or splices. BTW: I did this when I discovered my new house was wired with Cat5 (did my neighbor's, too!). Mine was easier because it had terminal blocks.
Apr 4, 2010. 6:41 PMcowen says:
USOC has either 2 4 or 6 pins in a RJ11 type jack VOICE

Pins as you look at them are for a 6 position jack
6,1 line three green
5,2 for line two Orange
4,3 for line one Blue (these are the center pins)
Brown spare

Pins as you look at them are for a 4 position jack
1,4 for line two Orange
2,3 for line one Blue (these are the center pins)
Green spare
Brown spare

Pins as you look at them are for a RARE 2 position jack
1,2 for line one Blue (these are the center pins)
Orange spare
Green spare
Brown spare

DATA
568B has 8 and 568A does as well the only difference between these are the green and orange pairs are flipped. 10/100 non duplex uses 2 pair, duplex mode depends on the wasted spares for ground.  1000M uses all 4 pairs.  That being said your switch and network cards must all support 1000M in order to run that speed just because you have the best cable does not mandate that you can run the speed everything must have the highest capability.

B Term
1,2 are orange
3,6 are green
4,5 are blue
7,8 are brown

A Term is closer to the USOC standard, 568A and B are used together for a cross over cable.  There used to be a Government mandate that all Government connections were A, that has been retired and is now on demand use only.

1,2 is Green
3,6 is Orange,
4,5 is Blue
7,8 is Brown

Usually if a cable is run we will split blue and orange out on to a jack and green and brown onto another.  This way 2 line phones can be used on both jacks and in the back we cross connect the incoming line to that pair for that station cable.

From this snippet you can see there is a purpose to the extra wasteful cables.

Now just because you have 1Gig bit (1000Meg) in the network if your DSL is a whopping 748K/360K you have only managed to spend a lot of time on making your in house wiring the best of the entire network.

This will help in the case of older homes with old cable or offices that have lacking cable infrastructures.
Jan 10, 2009. 10:53 PMcowen says:
Yes it is but not to as you split the cable.

The blue pair is line one of a phone 4,5
the next pairs out are line two 3,6
the next ones out are line three 2,7

and if you have someone make you a specialty cable the last ones would be 1,8.

Now that would be a hack.

If you follow spec then we need to know what you are doing 568a or B

Depending on what you are plugging in is what pairs are used.  Most often it is B so that is what we would follow here. For a Voice line Blue is line one.  Orange and Green are Ethernet data lines Brown is extra.

Oh you say thats what this is about.  NO depending on what you are hooking up the Brown and Blue is ground for Data or POE for devices that need to be powered such as IP phones.

Depending on what you are hooking up is what each pair is used for.  Somethings are more forgiving then others.
Jul 23, 2009. 5:03 PMmatbh says:
thats right! this is not a hack! the brown pair can be used for video too. u can find this standards in the furukawa documentation...
Jul 18, 2009. 8:34 PMcorencano says:
Oh and you can use CAT3 wire also, as long as its twisted. If the wires aren't twisted inside the shield you will get crosstalk on run over 20ft or so and connection wont work
Jul 18, 2009. 8:32 PMcorencano says:
This works only sometimes. You absolutely must use a 10/100 switch or router only. When using a couple different consumer grade 10/100/1000 switches or routers they have trouble auto negotiating the 100 mbs connection. Since you are only using 2 pairs or 4 wires you wont get a gigabit connection anyways but like I said low end equipment has trouble negotiating I am a home automation specialist and we do this whenever we run into a pinch. We don't make this regular practices
Jul 17, 2009. 1:18 PMwcbzero says:
Do know that if you ever want to use this cable a achieve gigabit speeds, this will not work. Gigabit requires the use of all 4 pairs (all 8 wires).

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