Introduction: Hidden Cave / Play Room Fort
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When I was a kid, we made a fort out of everything. We built a play house / fort in the woods with random stuff we found. We put together a cardboard box car, rocket ship, building, whatever. But we never had a play room to ourselves......
So, now that I have a son, I wanted a playroom or permanent fort just for him. The fun thing was figuring out where to put it and I found the perfect space, A triangular section above the dining room that is 3 feet at the highest point in the center and 11 x 14 feet overall. The problem was, to get to it, you had to crawl through attic space, over wires and open studs, and into a space with no lighting, windows, ventilation, or floor for that matter. Plus there are nails sticking through the roof sheathing..... So lets fix that.
Step 1: The Before Picture
This is what the space looked like before.
Step 2: Materials and Tools
Foam spraying equipment (just hire it done)
Knowledge of electrical systems
Knowledge of supporting walls
Great stuff foam
Window weather proofing
Electrical boxes/ switches/ outlets/ wire/ breaker
Safety gear needed:
Respirator - dust mask and a half face OV/HEPA cartridge model
knee pads are helpful
Step 3: Cleaning Out the Space
The house we live in is a century home. This means there is dust up here from 100 years ago, nasty coal dust from the old boiler, cob webs, animal stuff - we will leave it as "stuff", birds nests, mouse nests, garbage, and loose insulation.
So lets get rid of all of that and clean this place up a bit. A big shop vac should do the trick, as well as garbage bags, a dust mask, gloves, tons of soap, and a lot of time. I hired a neighbor kid for 10 hours to give me a hand. He swept stuff up, I emptied the shop vac when needed while working on construction on the rooms below, and he got some money he wanted to go on a Jamboree trip.
I used 3 sections of hose on the shop vac to reach back in here. Duct tape worked great to hold them together, with some couplings
I also used a IR remote on a outlet adapter so the neighbor boy could turn off the shop vac when it jammed, or he needed a break, which happened quite often.
Step 4: Adding a Window
I need an escape route for my son if a fire were ever to break out. Who wants to be trapped in a small space with flames all around?
So I found this great window at my local Home Depot. The window unlocks with two big handles and pivots in 45 degrees. This would give great fresh air if he wanted it. The whole window can then be lifted out and set aside leaving just the frame left and a 14 x 28 opening to escape. I can fit through it with no issues so I know my son will be able to.
I cut through the outside of the home, braced the window in place, put weather seal tape on the outside and later this year, will be putting cedar shakes on the outside of this section of the house. It never was sided before, just had tar paper on it. as it is a small triangular jut out leading to a flat roof. With the flat roof outside, my son can at least climb out onto something and jump 8 feet to the ground or my arms if needed.
Somehow I can foresee getting a phone call from a neighbor letting me know my son is on the roof again. I am going to have to work on that being for emergencies only......
Step 5: Adding Lighting
Who wants to be in a dark cave with no lights? Ok, well maybe there are times, but overall that isn't a great idea.
I ran electrical power into the cave area and put 3 lights in the ceiling. The switch to turn them on is right inside the access door to the chase leading to the cave. The lights are construction strand lights I had laying around. I replaced the plastic cages with nice metal cages and put in LED bulbs for low heat emissions and a cool to the touch bulb if my son decides lights are shiny and fun to touch.
The lights are plugged into an outlet box at the ceiling level. This way if my son decides to sleep in the cave area he can turn the lights off from inside the cave and use a flash light.
Step 6: Ventilation
The cave area needs a source of fresh air. I didn't want to rely on leaving the small 16 x 16 door open and hoping air would make it through.
So I bought a little bit of duct work, a vent cover, an inline duct fan, and a duct versa cap to keep my son from putting things down the vent. No LEGO men allowed in the fan.
I cut a hole in the ceiling by the edge of the dining room, ran the duct and fan, and installed a white cover on the ceiling of the dining room.
The fan was wired into a plug end and plugged into the same box as the lights.
Not only does the fan provide the area with fresh air from the dining room below, it also provides me with a way to know my son is in the cave. The fan makes noise just like a bathroom fan does. So I know the lights are on and someone is in the cave. I also know if I see my son and hear the fan running that he left the lights on when he exited the play area.
Step 7: Flooring
Half inch plywood was put down for the floor covering. It was also used to cover the floor in the crawl way leading to the cave (about an 8 foot crawl).
Luckily, I thought about doing this project when I had the ceiling open and under renovation in the room under the crawl way attic part. I was able to put a bunch of plywood in 2 foot and 3 foot wide sections up above for when I could finish the cave prior to the drywall going back up.
The plywood was screwed down to the floor joists to secure it in place.
A hole was cut for the ventilation duct to to through. The Versa cap on the duct makes it look a little industrial which I like and keeps the LEGO men alive and not blended by the fan.
Step 8: Insulation
Closed cell spray foam insulation was installed by a local company called Pureseal. They installed the foam 5 inches thick on the ceiling of the cave and 4 inches thick on the walls. They also sprayed the walls and ceilings of the 3 rooms I had under construction below in the home as well at 4 inches and 2 inches respectively.
After informing the guy of what I was hoping to do with the area, he covered the studs as well with the foam to make it look more like a cave. They did an amazing job. And I have many other studs not covered for termite inspections in the future.
The insulation basically makes the room like a large Styrofoam cooler. the insulation value is about R- 30 on the ceiling, which is much better than the R-1 that was in there with less than 1 inch of blown in insulation when I started.
Having gone through the summer with the heat, when it was 85 outside it was about 90 inside the cave area. But this was without the ventilation system on. With the system on, it is constantly pushing the 77 degree air into the cave from below and it cools down nicely.
Step 9: Painting
I don't think I have ever been in a cave that has spray foam colored walls. So I needed to paint it.
I thought about what I wanted to paint it with, even researching the fire proof paints used for foam. The problem with that concept was this room is in the top of the house. Nothing above it would catch fire before something below it did. If the fire got through the floor and reached the foam, the smoke in the room would have already done the damage to anything living inside. So the high expense of coating the foam in the fire paint didn't make sense. As well, the rest of the foam in the rooms below were already covered with drywall. They would not be coated either, so risk analysis said don't buy the paint.
I instead chose to try and paint it with something that would be rubbery to protect the foam a bit. I made the wrong choice. I tried spray on bed liner, Rustoleum Leak Seal, and the rubber spray for under vehicles. The Bed liner spray and under vehicle spray both had a chemical in the propellant that caused the foam to weaken as it dried. The finish cracked funny. So those were a bust. I thought the leakseal was an option. I put 10 cans of it up on the ceiling as my test spot worked great.
First, I didn't do my job and read the ingredients. It contained toluene. In a small space even with the window open, the fumes were not good. This was the first time in my life that I screwed up with painting in a not well ventilated area. I had shut the vent fan off due to not wanting paint smell in the rest of the house with my wife being pregnant at the time.
Toluene is funny. You are perfectly fine for 5 minutes. then at 5 minutes and 1 second you get a head ache, and at 6 minutes it becomes harder to coordinate movements out of an area which I had to crawl out of. Toluene hits quick and shouldn't be messed with. Sadly I could have prevented it as I had the proper half face respirator with OV/HEPA cartridges. I just didn't use them. 5 hours of a head ache later, and feeling like I was going to throw up the whole time, I decided I wouldn't be so stupid on the paint again and used the respirator for the remaining 8 cans I had to spray. The 10 cans only completed about 1/2 of the ceiling. At 10 dollars a can I waited another month to buy some more.
I found though that after a few weeks, the foam started to weaken a bit just like with the other two products I tried. It didn't give me the rubbery feel I wanted at all, but was kind of crispy. I switched to just flat black latex paint and painted the whole thing with my Capspray HVLP spray gun instead.
So lessons learned. Don't spray toluene based things in a small space, and the 3 products listed above are not good to cover foam with, at least for the first layer.
Step 10: Flooring
Who wants to lay on a hard plywood floor. That doesn't sound fun. But foam tiles on a floor. Now that is something I could crawl around on.
I purchased the 2 foot foam tiles with Microban technology to hopefully prevent the growth of anything on the foam. I know at some point there will be food left on the tiles or a cup of juice spilled.
The tiles interlock together and look and feel great. I used two colors, grey and green to give some contrast. The tiles are 1/2 inch thick so the floor is padded nicely.
Step 11: Finished Cave Pictures
Here are a few pictures of the finished product. The cave came out great. It is a bit difficult for me to climb in and out of it but I am 29, not 5. Now I just have to wait a few years for my son to be old enough to go into it. He is currently 4 months old.... Until then, I might just have to go up there to escape every once and a while. Could be a good place to take a nap. Sadly, I can't hunt in my city even though I border a metro park. I saw two deer walking across the back yard yesterday while working in the cave area finishing things up. It would have been a beautiful shot through that nice window.
Hope you enjoy the room design and maybe you can build one yourself someday.
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