This instructable will show how to take an ordinary Mag-lite flashlight and modify it to hold 12--10mm high-powered LEDs. This technique can also be applied to other lights as I will show in future instructables.

Step 1: Tools Needed

Tools Required:

12--10mm High-Powered LEDs (I bought mine from besthongkong on eBay)
Corresponding resistors
Insulated wire (preferably ~20ga)
Soldering Iron
Thin plastic (preferably clear and flexible, I used PETG from a local supplier)
Electrical Tape

Tools Recommended:

Wire stripper
Small pliers
Side-cutting pliers
There is no need to break the bulb. The contact at the end that touches the batteries can be heated with the iron then quickly shook sideways to fling off the solder, then grasping the bulb the solder point on the side can be melted allowing the whole bulb to slide out whole.
Ok, but.. what for???
1) So there is no need to deal with sharp broken glass fragments.<br><br>2) When you heat the socket end of the bulb to melt the solder, you're leaving behind a hole to slip the new wire through for more durability so it's a s step you'd take anyway when soldering in the wire... so essentially you are skipping an unnecessary step, there is simply no reason to break the bulb.<br><br>Perhaps you should try it both ways to see what I mean.
I was going to do this with mine, except with red leds (I have tons from a stoplight). I use formica samples and a drill press to make my own boards. it really helps to keep them all pointing the same direction. Nice Instructable!
leds are in stoplgihts?
LEDs have been in some high level stoplights for about a decade or so. My 1998 VW Golf had a LED high level brake light. They are becoming more common as a general replacement for stop, side and indicator lamps. They certainly are fairly common on newer models of some cars, but they still don't seem to be universal, except in large goods vehicles, where reliability and low maintenance due to the huge MTBF of 100 000 hoursare more important than unit cost and LEDs are now dirt cheap anyway.
No, I meant in traffic signals sort of like this (mine is dialight)
Where did you get it? I'd be interested...
I got mine when mndot (I lived in minnesota all of my life until a few months ago whan I moved to santa fe, NM) changed the lights near my friend's house. (he lives in moundsview, but the lights had a sticker on them that said 65 and bunker hill) I got a working one and one that didn't work so I scrapped it for the leds (~190 of them). I stil have the other one, but it still is in minnesota. The one in the picture isn't mine, mine tas a much rounder standard stoplight look to it. If you want one try DOT auctions or just ask when they are changing the lights.
Thanks! That's actually really close to where I am now at Bethel :)
Thats in Arden hills if I remember right. I lived in shoreview, right next to the mndot place and the (former) ammunition factory. If you are interested in MNDOT auctions they are right next to county rd I and 35W and are usually on saturday mornings.
all most all the lights are leds in Ga.<br><br>={) &lt;- man with a mustache
We have had LED traffic signals in the UK for around a decade, but they're still in a minority. Near us some LED signals have been installed and reinstalled repeatedly, and then were replaced with incandescent lamps. I think they may have been problematic. I now get the impression they're becoming more common. It's easy to determine the difference between LEDs and filament lighting, the LEDs are instantly on (visually), whereas the filament lights take time to reach working temperature. (probably around a tenth of a second or so). The LED traffic signals (at least the ones I've seen in the UK all use a matrix of LEDs like those in LinuxH4x0r's picture)
in the US i havent seen a regular light in a stoplight for a while until the other day, it looked way different
I understand that. Some time within the last 10 years, they've started putting LED traffic signals in Minnesota too. I was just wondering where LinuxH4x0r got their hands on one :)
We have a few stoplights in town that are LED powered, but the coolest thing we have on the end of my main road at a dangerous intersection is a stop sign that has a bunch of red LED's around it's edge. It has a solar panel that charges a battery for night time. The LED's slowly flash so you can miss the sign. There are tons of intersection warning lights that have solar panels to power their flashing lights so the county didn't have to tap into the main power and get charged by the power company. A guy somewhere in MS invented it, but they're all over the place now.. Cadillac and some higher end European cars started the trend using LED's in their third brakelight, since it's a pain to replace bulbs in. It allows them to make a sleeker light unit, but I've seen few in town that have dead LED's, that's got to be a pain to replace and a nuisance to think that your $XXK car has a 20 cent bulb burned out that will cost $XXX to replace the whole unit...
Hey man, Finally got the nerve to get moving on my LED conversion for my 6 C-cell Mag Light. Works great I must say. The only issue I have with it overall is that when putting the housing on, and taking it off, the wires twist together, and sometimes snap, then it's back to the solder gun. I was just showing it to a friend of mine, but now that that's over, I'm not taking the housing off for noone! Appreciate the instructable, and thank you.
DANG!!! NICE! freaking awesome, maybe me and a friend will try this, maybe not
Thanks for the enthusiasm!
Do you know if this will work on the mag-charger? If it works im def. going to make it
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now try a mini maglite
do you have one for sale? i'd be interested, i work at night so this would be of great interest to me.
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i made this sort of maglite hack before but i got one of the biggest like 2 1/2 foot 1s and fit like 14-16 bulbs in
Great write-up and thoughtful replies. Does anyone know if modified headlights using LED arrays are acceptable to highway use? I had an old 6-volt VW bus that could have used these things.
Batteries in series don't have additive mAH capacity. In any combination there is still only 12K mAH.<br/><br/>Unfortunately from the mag LED spec you list, your LED conversion does not put out as much light as the original bulb did. The reason it looks brighter is because it is blue light in a room with more yellowish ambient light, plus the original maglight was more focused. Regardless, increasing the efficiency, I mean runtime, is still reason enough to do the mod.<br/><br/>Again, the light output is not really 12'. Most of the usable light will be within about 36'. <br/><br/>I roughly estimate your light puts out about 100 lumens, so I was wrong in a previous comment that it's not as bright, it is as bright as some Mag xenon bulbs, but this is only if my estimate does not count light-reducing heat, battery drain which redues current to the LEDs, or LED aging. We can probably ignore the LED aging unless you had a very regular use of the light to put many hours on it, and even then the savings in batteries more than makes up for cost to replace the LEDs at some point.<br/><br/>Check out the <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.dealextreme.com">http://www.dealextreme.com</a> website, they have many nice high powered 1-3W LEDs separate or including a reflector set that would drop in to a flashlight and produce more light, more efficiently.<br/>
Whoa...lots of comments. I realize now the mAh capacity doesn't add. Thanks. Also, the light fits within 12 degrees (mostly), but the brightest part is really around 5-10 degrees. I didn't use PCB because this is supposed to be a cheap, easy thing that anyone can do. By my own experimentation, the LEDs throw off WAY less heat than the original bulb did, so I see the heatsinking as a little excessive. Again, this is not supposed to be the ultimate flashlight, but a cheap, easy way to improve the regular old Mag-lite that many people have lying around. Thanks for the tips on where to find more powerful LEDs--if this instructable proves to be as popular as it has been, I might have to check out your lead! Also, the assembly is as waterproof as it originally was, so there is no need to epoxy anything, and the array is held in place simply by pressure...it doesn't shake around at all.
THe LEDS really do not shine mostly within 12 degrees, see the Besthongkong chart, it is at least +-12' which is 24' minimum but you see on the chart that there is a lot of light left out of that 24' pattern. Yes the LEDs produce less heat but the important thing is they are susceptible to heat when the bulb is not (Much at all). They will get hot and that reduces light. Don't get me wrong that light is nice, and I'm sure if you're like the rest of us you will be building many more lights in the future so I'm just throwing out some ideas.
Thanks, it seems that you really do know your stuff. What I said comes from my personal [very un-scientific] testing. I just took an estimate of the spread size at a known distance and noticed that it seemed the majority of the light seemed to be at about a 7 or 8 degree spread. Also, it stands to reason that if the 12 degree is the 3dB threshold, there would be significantly more light at 7 degrees than at 12 degrees. Just a thought.
The reflector would be helpful, the LEDs don't actually focus in a 12' beam, that is only the degree measurement of the brightest part, there is still significant light output outside of 12 degrees. However, if the flashlight does not need great distance illumination, many peoploe find a wider than 12' beam more useful for navigation, like inside their home if the power goes out they don't need a tight beam much but rather to see more around them.
LED light focus measurements are taken at the points where the power is half it's peak. In other words, they find the brightest point (typically directly in front of the LED) and them move laterally until the power is half as bright. In this instance it would be 6 degrees. 6 degrees for the left and 6 degrees for the right equals twelve degree focus. (Incidentally, these two points are known as the 3db points) So you have half of your overall output in a tight 12 degree pattern and the other half is spread out over the remaining 168 degrees from the base of the led. Needless to say, there is actually very little light outside of the main beam. And most of what is outside is very close to the original 12 degree beam. I'm sure the author can attest to this by merely shifting the beam slightly off center. The intensity rapidly diminishes. This handy for a flashlight though. With traditional LED lights, the tighter the beam, the brighter the intensity of the LED.
That's exactly right...very little light can be seen anywhere except for the 12 degrees straight ahead. Thanks for the knowledgeable insight!
That's because the room is lit. In a pitch black room I have plenty of flashlights using 5mm encapsulated leds with roughly 12' center beam, and while it is much brighter than the rest because of it being centered, if you were to reflect the rest of the light into the center that is spread out along the rest of the axis, you would find there was more light lost than you realize.
My original attempt was to simply replace the bulb with a single LED, as they are very close to the same size. I found that the intensity of the light changed very little whether or not the reflector was in place, so I just created a great big array with as many of the LEDs as would fit.
The way this has been constructed, it could be nice to take some clear epoxy and entirely cover the back of the LEDs and round frame. This will more rigidly fix them in place but also waterproof the assembly. If a thermal epoxy were used instead of clear, it wouldn't look "as" nice but then the epoxy would help to cool the LEDs more by spreading heat away from the leads.
Cool the LED's??? LED's have virtually no heat. They are drawing mere milliamps. (mine draw around 20ma) While I appreciate your attempt to improve the design, that suggestion was a bit off target.
Untrue, it is known fact that LEDs both reduce in light output at elevated temp and that they do get hot, because the die is tiny and encapsulated in a relatively poor heat conductor. I can assure you I have made lots of flashlights and when 10 LEDs have their leads short and soldered to a PCB as a 'sink, it does get quite warm, and this across a thermal gradient due to the thin metal leads away from the die (mostly the cathode). If you have a single LED soldered to a fairly beefy piece of wire, this can be effective enoough for a single LED, and at least in the design here it was suggested they ran at 20mA, being easier to keep under a threshold value than 30mA would be (which is closer to the actual spec of these LEDs). Note what I just wrote, since these LEDs are 100mW type and are running at only 20mA, they are not at 100mW, not producing the rated light output. I know this was not directly applicable to what you wrote but it was a good time to mention since it bears on a light output estimation.
Excellent post. Most scary however is that I built a flashlight exactly like yours about a year ago. I even used the same LED supplier that you used. The only difference was that I mounted my LED's into a breadboard and soldered them down. I always get compliments on that light. One other change that I made to mine was to use a piece of neoprene gasket that I cut out with a razor blade to go between the breadboard and the metal case. I have left my flashlight turned on and in a drawer for over 6 weeks and it was still going. You simply can't beat the battery life when you are using LED's. I also have to disagree with spannercrab's comment about switching the batteries to parallel. If you switched the batteries to parallel, you'd get 1.5v, but you'd have 6 times the original mAH. Putting batteries in parallel increases the amount of amps that they can put out over time.
A D-Cell battery does indeed have around 12Ah of charge - depending on type - i.e. alkaline, NiMh etc ... however battery capacity does not increase when cells are strung together in series. 6 x 12,000mAh cells in series will give you 9V @ 12,000mAh - if you strung the same cells together in parallel, this will give you 12,000mAh @ 1.5v (or whatever the single cell voltage is). Also, if you increase the pack voltage, your current drawn through the LED's will also increase and likely destroy your LED's - the only way you can get around this is to either modify the resistors based on your torch voltage or to use a constant current power supply to ensure an even current supply to the LED's.
A large rubber O-ring might also make a nice spacer. However, another option is to take the original reflector and grind down the back of it, then use only the # of LEDs that fit in the then open space. Since the LEDs will (practically) never burn out if not overdriven with too much current, after the lens, remaining portion of the reflector, and LED assembly is installed into the heat, it can be fixed in place with epoxy. Another way to fix the lens in place would be to throughly clean the lens and the ring it seats in, then put a small bead of silicone caulking (or similar) around the inside recess where the lens sits, then put the lens in , wipe off any excess caulking that squirts out the front of the ring, then flip it over on waxed paper and put a weight on the lens (like a D cell battery) until it dries in 24 hours or so.
Why would you make this plastic piece when you could instead use a PCB? The PCB allows drilling holes for only the LED leads allowing better parallel alignment of the LEDs, and if someone is handy at etching their own circuit boards it will be an even more professional result. Even more important, LED brightness and lifespan correspond to temperature, keeping the LEDs cooler by having short leads 'sunk to large copper areas on the PCB will heatsink them. most people don't think about heatsinking LEDs but they aren't trying to put as much current through or don't care as much about brightness as someone building a high performance flashlight might. With several LED running at peak current they will get pretty warm. I think the way this plastic piece was made does look nice though, I am only offering one other alternative.
Instead of lossy resistors, try using an LED driver board for increased efficiency and more constant light output (the way this is set up with resistors, light output continually drops along with battery voltage).
they now have 10mm LEDs which have 5 LEDs in the one case. they are 40 degree with white scatter to 60 degrees. 3.4 forward volts and 100 ma. wicked bright and 265,000 mcd typical,280,000 max. the 5mm 55,000 mcd are also a very bright option fr smaller flashlights. i put one 3mm white bulb in a minimag which worked fine. i had to enlarge the reflector(w an awl) to accept the 3mm bulb. i just cut the leads to the same length as the stock ?krypton bulb. it is not as bright as a minimag bulb, but the batteries last forever. when its dark as a boot it works very well. nice well done instructable.
I have one of the new 3-watt LED minimags. The way they seem to have solved the LED problem is by going with high power LED, wide angle beam, and a major change to the reflector to take advantage of the beam angle. The LED minimag light can be focused, which is a big plus. Five-watt flashlights are out but are not catching on widely.
Hmmm... Was there any thought, given to array efficiency/direction/concentration of the Led's? I've had the idea many times, to just "flood" the entire surface area with Led's to max power of standard batts... The power you have accomplished, could have been done with 3 Led's positioned correctly for overlay of light and focusing etc.. Does your mag focus anymore? DO the LeD's provide a direct beam or is it just a blur of "bright" LeD's... Inserting "lot's" of in-effiecient LeD's will compromise your torch... Invest in some decent Led's and a new batt setup... Then you'll be getting close to a tacticle... And your right... it will probable cost less, than a tacticle but is also not one... Sorry but people said this to me, when I came up with such an idea.... :)
I think if you check out the new, revised instructable, you should see the answers to most of your questions. As for being able to be done with 3 LEDs positioned correctly, I seriously doubt that. The flashlight now lacks its ability to manually focus, but its 12 degree spread is relatively thin, as can be seen in the new pictures. Also, I think the efficiency question can be answered at the end of the new step, with the result being 12.5-25 times more battery life for more light. I was not attempting to make a full-tactical flashlight, just to upgrade what I had to near-tactical ability. By the way, thanks for the criticism. I feel my instructable is much more solid now that you pointed out these details that I failed to explain.
Bravo.... If you have put the thought into it and it work's for you then.... TOPS!! I have seen people not put any thought into array etc and recieved mediocre result's... Just a tip on the LeD's 1 "High powered" (Sorry yours are not high powered or your standard batt setup would drain out in 10 min) LeD and correct batt setup will give you a better result and a brighter torch. And you'll still be able to focus the spread or even better three positioned correctly... I have a energizer that had 3 LeD's / 1 incan (independant) in the centre running from 3 x 1200MaH AAA's. .. I kicked the incan, added a forth LeD to the centre and re-routed it's pwr to the other Led's.... Changed the batt setup for 6V ... 2x3v Lith-ion cells.. And compared to my friend's tacticle (cost him $140AU) it surprised the hell out of him how it preformed.... Great ible man! Makes me want to start rippin' my torches apart again... ;) Well done!
Batteries in series (as in flashlights) multiply voltage, but not current. The amp/hour ratings for all of the "D" cell flashlights remains ~12000 mAH for each voltage. Still, significantly greater life than with incandescent bulbs!
Good Instructable. You could also use silicone as a sealant or pour a thin layer of resin on top of the LEDs to make it more water resistant.

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