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Hello fellow Instruct-ables...  What better way to celebrate space than to look at it through a really big telescope? I have been an ATM for quite a while and this is my latest project, a big refracting telescope on a big mount. 
 
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Step 1: Gathering Parts

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The mount is made from mostly easy to find scrap parts I found on line. I spent a lot of time looking for scrap pieces that were close to sizes I needed until I found that the metal merchants would cut pieces to size for pretty cheap. I used common power tools such as a small drill press, router, circular saw and chop saw. Working with aluminum is a lot like working with very hard woods, the cutting feels the same but slower.

The chassis is made of 1/2" sheet aluminum. The bearings are pillow block bearings. The Main(RA) shaft is 2-5/8" diameter aluminum and the smaller(dec) shaft is 1-1/6" steel. The large worm gear was purchased cheaply from an astronomy website. 

Step 2: Routing aluminum

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This is a step that I thought about for a good long while. An equatorial mount has to have some adjustment for the angle of altitude in order to track properly. The angle for your location is your latitude, Where I am the mount needs to be set at 42deg. I decided to make the angle adjustable about 5 deg either way. To make these small arcs I used a circle-cutter attachment on my router and made quick 1/8" passes until I cut through each side of the chassis. 

Step 3: Basic chassis assembly

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I trimmed the mounting tabs from the large pillow block bearings and ground down the sides with an angle grinder. After some drilling and some tapping, I bolted the base chassis up...

I added a brace and tapped a hole for an adjustment bolt. Turning this bolt allows the angle to be adjusted then clamped down when it's right. 
jwoodward81 year ago
Does it work
Astrochef (author) 3 years ago
WOW! Thanks everyone who voted! I am proud to be a part of such an active building community. Thank you Instructables and Celestron, I'll put the scope to good use!

Hopefully my wife will let me spend a little more time in the shop now!

Sean
For building a telescope:

Do you know of anyone that has used a section of the heavy Green plastic sewer pipe which is available in diameters starting at 10 or 12 inches for this?
I have found the white PVC pipe locally that is 8 inches approx. in diameter.
Anything 6 inches or less is available in the plumbing supply / home improvement stores .

The problem is that once you get to the green commercial PVC piping the gets buried underground a ways , it also gets very heavy as the wall thickness is quite thick as it is schedule 30 or 40 so it won't crush when buried in the ground.
The Blue PVC underground piping is for water mains and has an even thicker wall on it than the green sewer piping as it needs to be schedule 80 and be able to take the municipal water pressure continuously .
Astrochef (author)  Mechanic20113 years ago
In terms of strength vs weight vs cost, Aluminum wins most of the time. I have used PVC for smaller scopes for the kids but after a certain length/diameter, it starts to sag. A 10" diameter rolled Aluminum tube will run about $100 + 30 shipping. I am also a big fan of sonotube which can be bought from your local building supply for $10 and wrapped with fiberglass or reinforced for added strength. The holy grail of scope building is Carbon fiber but it is awfully expensive and messy to do yourself(correctly, anyways)

If you know some one in the business and can get thick-walled PVC, go for it. You won't find a cheaper easier-to-work material and you won't have to go to the gym again ever!
Yes, I was thinking about the weight of the scope tube .

Once the lenses are installed into it the tube I am very sure that the weight of these sizes of lenses won't be very light either.
I figure that it is going to take 2 people to set the scope up of that size on site anyway.
The ground or earth base , the mount system and then the scope tube and other parts will need to be assembled in pieces to be able to handle them .

In theory it could be "portable" with some work involved with the set up.

If you were going to make it portable and transportable what length and diameter of tube would you consider to be a maximum for such a project ??

What would a person use to anchor the thing into the ground without a hard pad to set it on?
Perhaps 3 of those large 36" or 48" tent spikes with plates welded on the ends that could be leveled ??
Would that give a steady enough base to install such a powerful telescope onto without worrying about vibrations etc.??

What kind of clock drive system would be best for tracking the stars OR moon for these larger scopes ??


Astrochef (author)  Mechanic20113 years ago
This scope was limited by how long of a tube I could fit into my vehicle, so 8ft. The scope weighs about 30lbs, which is fine for me weight-wise. The mount breaks down into components no heavier than 75lbs, my personal limit. I really wanted it lighter but each time I rebuilt it, I wanted it stiffer which meant more weight.

No joke: when I started to get a feel for how heavy this thing was going to be I started lifting weights and doing back exercises so I wouldn't kill myself lugging it around. I have to drive about 45 miles to get to dark skies so the scope travels a lot. So far, no major issues but I hesitate to go larger/heavier without permanently installing it in my yard(not possible at this time)

With a scope as large as you suggest, a clock drive of 12" or better would be minimum, they get pretty pricey if you buy them off-the shelf. Last time I looked they ran from $900 to around $3,000.

If your scope is of Newtonian design, I would suggest an "Equatorial Platform"
Easy to construct on your own with good enough tracking even for basic photography. Google it to see what they look like.


Thanks,
Sean
I think, guys, that your discussion should move away from 'homemade telescope' and start into 'installing an observatory at home on a budget'.

Just saying.
I believe that the main point of this article was the scale and size of equipment to make it "portable" and transportable to locations away from the city and light pollution and also to cut the costs down associated with such a hobby .
Most of us do not live way out in the country .
But your point is well taken and I am sure that someday "someone" would come up with an instructable for building a stationary observatory facility at home.
Are you game?
I wonder WHAT the building inspection office will tell you when you go in to get your building permit for such a facility ,LOL .

How are you going to make it rotate to track the stars?
There will be all kinds of other structural questions they will ask of you.
They will probably tell you that you cannot design it yourself and you will need to get the service of a qualifies architectural and structural engineer.
I KNOW our building inspection office would tell ME that .
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georgeATM3 years ago
Beautiful scope! I am surprised you went with oak on the tripod legs. I Built an 8" f/15 refractor and used all aluminum except for the alt-az box on top of the tripod.
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Astrochef (author)  georgeATM3 years ago
Thanks George! I went with oak because that's what I had around. My intention is to permenantely mount it to a pier but that day is a few years off....

I like the minimalist design of yours. I camped next to an 8" f15 once at a star party and it's huge size made me decide on a 6" for myself... Who made your lens?

Also, you may find that the oak dampens out vibrarions better than aluminum... at least that's what you can tell people :-)

Best Wishes.
D&G optical. Air spaced achromat fully coated.
Astrochef (author)  georgeATM3 years ago
Geez George, that glass deserves a tube!
Where did you find the aluminum tubing of that size?
The "tube" is made of aluminum angle both 2" and 1". It is actually two 5 ft sections that I designed to slide together. The legs are 2" square and again, 5ft pieces that slide to size. i bought it all from a local aircraft/metal supply shop.
jmacdonald63 years ago
Very nice work indeed bro. Congratulations. But I found those instructions are so imprecise to the inexperienced (myself) that I could as easily end up with a vertical lawn mower or letter opener for giraffes. Not only that, this project could be impossible in many other countries: one bemoans e.g. in the UK the lack of DIY venues -- of junkyards, 'local machine shop guy', spare materials, shops, suppliers, space, of ANY PERSON within 1000 miles 'discarding' any hardwood in size and number bigger than a single chopstick. Thus MY assessment: life is tough in the US now but appreciate that you don't need to crop your own talents as in Europe. Keep on building and posting!
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Astrochef (author)  jmacdonald63 years ago
Our streets are paved with gold, don'tcha know....

I set out with this project to prove that you didn't need a full-on engineering degree to make an accurate large mount. Frankly, Imprecise is my middle name, I measured very little during this project. It was more important for the parts to be square with each other rather than specific sizes.

Everyone's access to materials is different all over the world. One of the largest homebuilt refractor's (a dialyte)is in the UK with an objective of 32" or so. During the first year I was gathering parts, no dumpster was safe! I remember measuring pipe in my restaurant's basement for a pier I was thinking about mounting the scope on!
pcgate3 years ago
just plain ole wow. good job.
raul383 years ago
Thanks for share your excellent works
Any scope builders on LI (nassau cty) that would like parts to build a small Galileo telescope? My friend has 2 3 in parts and one complete (maybe he will parrt with it don't know). They are the standard cherapo scopes so you could make 1 perhaps from the parts or take two and make really big binoculars (yeah that ain't happening cause the parts to make them cost more then buying a pair).

let me know and perhpas it will be for you. 2 scopes and crappy needs reapirs tripods. free for experimentals on LI.

Drop me a line through instructables and I will put you in touch. These will be free, but you gotta go get'm
scubapol3 years ago
Congrats. Thanks for sharing .
bowmaster3 years ago
Dang, That's nice.
mr.frob3 years ago
seriously, great job!
jayb13 years ago
I found a good place to get free PVC pipe of large or small diameters. Find somewhere where they are laying Pipe & ask them if they have any cut-offs. They always do. If you explain what you want it for they will give it to you.
Ohhhhhh my mind is spinning with ideas now that you shared that info. Thanks! :0)
Yes, theres lot of things you can do with 230mm
PVC. Short lengths = Flower pots.
Split lengthways = Vegie Garden.
2 X 2 meter lengths makes 44 Gal US water tank.
Fan in one end & cut out in the middle makes a Wind Tunnel for testing model aircraft wings.
Have fun.
"I see the moon, and the moon sees me. God bless you, and God bless me."
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bahi3 years ago
superb!
arpruss3 years ago
beautiful!
bclamore3 years ago
This is all way-cool. Please consider volunteering a little time at your local school. Middle or high school kids would love this. If school has budget maybe they can get some of those Galileoscopes for the kids to make. Or just get a couple convex lenses and stick them on a meter stick with clay or lens holder. You could show them some pics of deep space objects, if you have them. Maybe show them one of your other scopes?
valveman3 years ago
A beautiful and professional Job. congrats!
BrianJone53 years ago
I am in awe. One of the most informative, best constructed 'ibles, building such a beautiful thing. My vote is yours. Live long and prosper, Astrochef.
kevinhannan3 years ago
Wow! I am utterly in envy. Great build - thanks for sharing! ;-)
rkrishnan73 years ago
Inspiring build!
Hope you will bring it to the Prairie Skies Star Party!
Astrochef (author)  rkrishnan73 years ago
We'll be there!

Sean
Truly amazing! I want one, unfortunately this will be # 2,546 on my list of wants
tholopotami3 years ago
Excellent work!
nikon203 years ago
my friend that scope is a work of art i love it keep up the good work
love2cad3 years ago
This is an amazing build... congrats on a great telescope!
mikeasaurus3 years ago
amazing build, thanks for sharing!