Step 2: Construction

The pictures show the inside of the Geiger counter.  Unfortunately the Image Notes are not working now for some reason, but I think it is clear what is what.  The Geiger tube is just glued to the inside of the case with silicone adhesive.  Three holes were drilled in the case to allow radiation to reach the tube.  If there is a possibility of contamination of the Geiger counter (such as in a radiation fallout situation), I would suggest not to put any holes in the case, the radiation will penetrate a plastic or light aluminum case anyway, then the outside of the counter can be cleaned if contamination is suspected.

The speaker was glued to the top of the case, with 3 holes drilled in the case for the sound to escape.  A cabinet handle was attached to the case for easy carrying.

To operate the Geiger counter, turn on the switch (connects power from the 9V battery) and press the pushbutton quickly about 10 times to build up the high voltage.  The high voltage will last about 2 minutes, then you will have to press the pushbutton a few times again.  With the small tube I used, about 5 counts per minute are detected with normal background radiation.  If you use a larger, more sensitive tube, you will get more counts.

These are very brief instructions, any questions please ask.  Unfortunately I can't help with where to find a Geiger tube, and there seems to be a worldwide shortage right now.  You can find them on ebay, but see the comments below, some types are not very sensitive so you might be disappointed.  This link is interesting, it describes making a Geiger tube from a 35mm film container:
However, the air-filled tube requires >3000V.
From what I have been able to learn for example here , and in the einstlab link above, the special quenching gas in Geiger tubes serves only to reduce the 'dead time' between clicks, and allow faster count rates.  When filled with air, a Geiger tube should still work but with count rates only up to about 300 counts/second instead of 10,000 counts/second.  But hey, 300 counts/second is quite a lot and plenty good enough for do-it-yourselfers who are not likely to come across any radioactive sources strong enough to exceed that.  So go for it, just take a metal tube and suspend a wire in the middle and it should work.  I'd use something much smaller diameter than a 35 mm film case though, to avoid very high voltages like 3000V.  An aluminum tube about the size of a drinking straw should be just about perfect (aluminum so the radiation gets through easily).  With my simple high voltage generator, it sounds like something MacGyver could do in his kitchen!  If only I had time to try it out... new baby in the house... need sleeeep...
<p>I've made a similar project, but used mc34063 chip to power up Geiger tube and added a bunch of op-amps + transistors to be able to connect the output to microcontroller/arduino or other evaluation boards.</p><p>http://robertgawron.blogspot.com/2015/02/homemade-geigermuller-counter-part-i.html</p>
Hi, a source for the hard-to-locate HV winding is old personal alarms. <br>This one cost me &pound;1.57 from G4S and also has a nice case and speaker with enough room to put the modified PCB in. <br>It also has a little socket which can if you want be replaced with the 4 pin one harvested from a broken MP3 player and make a USB charger/sync cable. <br> <br>Another worthwhile method of &quot;fixing&quot; stubborn oscillating or marginal tubes which I discovered is to connect two 10M resistors in series with a 0.1uF capacitor and this quenches the tube nicely without affecting sensitivity much if at all. <br>Rescued an expensive tube this way and many counters will benefit from the improved EMI resistance so they don't go crazy next to phones etc. <br>
I have wondered whether the electronics of a racket bug zapper could provide the voltage needed to power an air-filled Geiger tube.Apparently the better ones provide something over 2kv. which should be able to drive a 20 mm tube maybe?Those electronics are tiny and powered by 2 C or D cells.
For the high volts pwr sppy.. what about anused one-use pic c&aacute;mera, the high tension to charge the capacitor offers about 500 volt and is so little, have a look to this instructable about: <br> &quot; Build a Pocket Ionizing Radiation Detector (PIRD)&quot; if you like to and how to make some kind of a &iquest;geiger counter no-tube&quot;?.. and how to use the used cam circuit for the high voltage supply. <br> <br> Nice instructable, thanks from Spain. <br>Fyborg <br>
Using a camera flash circuit to generate the high voltage is a good idea.
Cool! I was wondering if a neon lamp would work. I expect that the count rate would be low, but it's certainly an easy way to go. <br>
Could I have a better view of the wiring diagram? I can't see it very well. Thank you. <br>
Did you click the &quot;i&quot; in the top left corner of the picture and select the full image resolution? Then you can see it more clearly.
Would this geiger be sufficient for driving http://www.instructables.com/id/Arduino-True-Random-Number-Generator/step5/Detect-Radiation/ <br>?
Yes it would work, but it would be annoying to have to keep pressing the button to refresh the high voltage. If I was going to do something like that I would make a better high voltage source that does not require a manual pushbutton. Check out some of the references in my instructable.
Thats a great geiger counter. I made one 20 years ago and got it out to monitor , if any radioactive particles from the blown reactors in Japan. I just got done writing an instructable on how to Ustream the data. Your counter would be perfect if you can add a optocoupler at the output for making pulses. Are you near the West Coast close enough to catch any fallout?
Thanks for the comment! My circuit is not very well suited for a continuous monitoring application like your project (great project by the way!), because with my simple high voltage generator you have to manually push a button to generate the high voltage. It would be possible to connect a slow 555 oscillator circuit (1Hz?) to a relay to generate the high voltage automatically, or to use a high voltage generator circuit such as in the <a href="http://www.galacticelectronics.com/GeigerCounter.HTML">galacticelectronics link </a>above.<br> It would be quite easy to connect an optocoupler to my circuit, just connect it to the speaker output through a ~1 kohm resistor.<br> I am on the east coast so I don't expect to pick up anything from Japan. I think even after Chernobyl it took very specialized equipment capable of detecting the gamma ray energies to pick up fallout in North America and distinguish it from normal background radiation, so I don't expect a Geiger counter would be able to do it. But definitely fun to try!
Here is a site that has a Geiger counter hooked up to a webcam to monitor any fallout from Japan... <a href="http://www.enviroreporter.com/2011/03/enviroreporter-coms-radiation-station/">http://www.enviroreporter.com/2011/03/enviroreporter-coms-radiation-station/</a>
Do you often make Geiger counters?.... How efficient is this based with say an off the shelf counter?<br><br>I would suggest that when/if you get more time, to flesh this I'ble out abit as it's not fantastically clear... But well done anyway I enjoyed giving it a read<br><br>Homebrew radioactivity detector... interesting idea<br><br>High Five for you<br><br>
Thanks for the comment. Yes, when I get some time I'll add more details. If you have some suggestions on what's especially needed that would help. <br>This is the only Geiger counter I have made, I did it as a project for an electronics course years ago. With 5 counts/minute for background radiation it is not as efficient as most Geiger counters which will give 15-30 counts, but that's because of the small tube I used, not the circuit. <br>What' I'd really like to do is figure a way to make a Geiger tube, that's the big disadvantage of this project, Geiger tubes are hard to come by. They are normally filled with special gases, but I think they can work when just filled with air.. <br>
<a href="http://einstlab.web.fc2.com/geigerE/GeigerE.pdf">Here</a> is a posting that describes how to make a Geiger tube using a 35 mm film container!&nbsp; The disadvantage is that an air-filled tube requires &gt;3000V.
Apparently radioactive particles will ionize the gas to 500v and trip the counter. Found that on, http://www.blackcatsystems.com/science/radiation.html
Homemade Ion Chambers:<br>http://www.techlib.com/science/ion.html#Experimenters%20Chamber
soo yeah....... did a great job there.....BUT..... it is still too difficult to make (for me, i don't have the parts i mean), and not anyone can make it. i'm trying to make one myself using up to 4/5 parts (yeah sounds unbelievable) i have a tube (that you can find everywhere, and does not have a voltage rating up to 400/500 V its really low,
http://www.goldmine-elec-products.com/prodinfo.asp?number=G17365<br><br>Reasonable price, too.
It's reasonably priced because it's not very useful. It's sensitive to only gamma rays, which means it's more of an ion chamber than a GM tube. So, basically it's only useful in very specific applications that your average civilian isn't going to encounter.<br><br>If you want your counter to be interesting, I'd spring for at least an alpha, beta radiation detector. That way you can detect the radioactivity in nature (rocks, cosmic rays, etc.)
Whether a Geiger counter is sensitive to alpha, beta, or gamma depends on the thickness of the wall of the tube. Tubes with a thin aluminum wall can detect beta, to detect alpha requires an extremely thin wall (usually mica) because even a sheet of paper will stop alpha rays. Probably this one detects only gamma because of the thick glass wall. But that is perfectly fine for general use because almost all radioactive substances emit gamma rays in addition to any alpha and beta. <br>The example circuit that they provide is a Geiger counter, not an ion chamber type detector, so I think it really is a Geiger tube and will react to rocks, cosmic rays, etc. <br>
I found an item on e-bay that is very similar and had some specs and comments that suggest it may be an ionization type detector, not a Geiger tube. Copied from the e-bay description:<br> <br> Russian military Geiger tubes counter Ci-3BG.<br> Lot of 50.<br> Plateau &gt; 80 V.<br> Plateau inclination , % / V, no more: 0,25<br> Sensitivity countable characteristic Imp/sec //( R/h) &gt; 1,3 * 10-5 (188) &gt; 2 * 10-5 (282)<br> U on the anode in an impulse mode V 380-460<br> U on the anode in a current a mode V 382-398<br> The greatest working current uA &gt; 15, &lt; 20<br> <br> I'm not sure what all of that means, but the 'plateau' seems to refer to ionization type detectors (see <a href="http://www.safetyoffice.uwaterloo.ca/hse/radiation/rad_laboratory/detection/gas_filled/gas_filled_detectors.htm">this link</a>), and the apparent mention of 188 and 282 rad/hour suggests it is only sensitive to high radiation fields.<br>
Another e-bay seller (sovtube) has this description.&nbsp; Note the spec translation is&nbsp;given here as&nbsp;188-235 pulses/second per rad/h.&nbsp; For comparison, a standard Geiger counter such as CDV-700 will give about 600 counts/minute (10 counts/second) at 1 mrad/h, or 10,000 counts/second for 1 rad/h, which is 50 times as many counts for the same amount of radiation.&nbsp; So this tube may in fact work as a Geiger counter, but because of the very small size (I think the little metal cylinder in the center is the sensitive part), it will give less than 1 count per minute under normal&nbsp;background radiation.&nbsp; Also such a small tube may not give a big enough signal to trigger the 555 directly, you may need to add a FET as in the example circuit on the electronic goldmine site.<br> <br> Russian Geiger TUBE Counter SI-3BG<br> New, old stock.<br> Lot of 1<br> Russian made (CI-3BG) glass geiger mueller tube is designed to detect betta and gamma rays.<br> Working range of Dose POWER 300R/h<br> Sensitivity to Gamma Radiation <strong>188-235 Pulses/s/R/h</strong><br> Working Current 0.015-0.02 mA<br> Plateau Length/ Inclination 80V/0.25%/V<br> Working Voltage 380-460V<br> Working Current 0.015-0.02 mA<br> Maximum registering range 300 Roentgen/hour<br> Length 55mm<br> Diameter 10mm<br>
Excellent! Thanks!

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