This is a quick and simple method for making your own general-purpose plastic. The constituent ingredients are milk and vinegar. That's it. The total cost is less than $10, possibly less than $5 if you can get a good deal.

The plastic is moldable, and has a consistency of soggy cheese (I certainly hope I never encounter cheese that's anything like this!). When all is said and done, it should take you about 10-15 minutes to make the plastic (less if you make a small amount), 10 minutes of cleanup, plus 2+ days to allow the plastic to dry. As always, your milage may vary.

As for the final product's strength and whatnot, I would classify it as "okay." If you roll it thin (as I did in this instructable), it can easily be snapped in half, though it will probably survive a small drop on to carpet. Thicker pieces seem to be more resilient against average abuses - no problem dropping on to carpet, and if it's thick enough, you wouldn't be able to snap it in half. A blow from a hammer or other such object would quickly shatter it, though.

All in all, I would say this is mostly useful for folks looking for a fast and dirt cheap alternative to much better products available to the average joe. It's definitely not for something that will be handled on a daily basis - good enough for light decor, not much else.

This is my first Instructable, so bear with. Constructive criticism is always welcome!
 
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Step 1: Ingredients & Utensils

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This doesn't require anything fancy.

Essential Items:
Milk
Vinegar
Large Pot
Larger Pot (needs to be the same size as the other, or larger).
Spoon, preferably plastic or metal
Strainer or Colander, the finer the better
Stove or other item with which to simmer milk.
Paper Towels, lots and lots of paper towels

Handy, but not necessarily essential, items:
Wax Paper (good for rolling and shaping on. Water and other liquids bead up on it for easy clean-up; also non-stick with the casein)
Aluminum Foil (good for certain types of molds)
Rolling pin (if you're going to make a flat sheet of plastic)

Before you begin making the plastic, it's important to know what you're intending to make. By knowing what you're final goal is, you can make the preparations for the mold before you have a sloppy wad of plastic on your counter.

For this Instructable, I am making a curved piece that will fit on the front bezel of my computer case. Since this is beyond the scope of this particular instructable, I'm going to gloss over what I'm using. My mold is going to be the front bezel of the computer case, covered with aluminum foil. The plastic will dry nicely on top of it, and the aluminum won't shrivel or wrinkle when it gets wet as the plastic cures.

How much milk and vinegar will you need? The basic ratio that I follow is 1 TBSP of vinegar for every cup of milk. (16:1 ratio, milk to vinegar)

1 cup of milk will produce a puck of plastic about 2" in diameter, 1/8" thick.

To cover my case bezel, which is about 6 inches wide and 8 inches tall, I am going to use 8 cups of milk (and therefore 8 Tbsp of vinegar).
ihaveguitarskills! says: Jan 8, 2013. 6:45 PM
Does it stink? and could it be made to replace plastic pellet gun pieces, if the previous were plastic too?
sudanione says: Aug 3, 2011. 7:29 PM
how can make it transparent
tbh-1138 says: Dec 12, 2012. 3:28 PM
You can't.
fretted says: Nov 30, 2012. 10:56 AM
Make Your Own Casein Glue from Milk
1. Heat some skimmed milk (do not let it boil)
2. Add about 3 teaspoons of vinegar (an acid) to the milk and stir slowly until the milk
separates into curds (solid sticky bits) and whey (clear liquid)
3. Pour the curds and whey through a tea strainer or sieve to collect the curds
4. In a container, add a little bit of bicarbonate of soda or milk of magnesia (alkali)
5. You should now have a sticky white substance called casein (milk protein). This can
be used as a binder in paint – just add some pigment!
karthikvasudevan says: May 26, 2012. 9:13 AM
What you've made right there is what we in India call 'paneer' we use it in curries n stuff its delicious, its a kind of cheese, and i'm not sure its a plastic.
bodeddie says: Nov 17, 2012. 9:36 AM
You are right that what he has made is Paneer. (Here in the states it is called Cottage Cheese.) However, do a google search for Casein Plastic and you will find that it was a widely used plastic for making buttons, knitting needles, ink pen cases etc. in the early 20th century. It is a polymer by definition and therefore technically a plastic. When used in manufacturing, it would be treated with formalin to retard an bio-degradation. Casein was also a widely used medium for paint.
fqian yan says: Mar 18, 2012. 2:34 AM
will mold grow on it in the process of drying?
billraymond says: Feb 18, 2012. 9:34 PM
Are you sure this is truly casein?? My understanding is that casein is precipitated from milk by rennet, not heat. Heating whey with vinegar or other acidifier creates ricotta, which is not a cheese, as it contains no casein, but is rather the precipitated albumin and other (not casein) proteins. Galalith is made from casein and must be fixed in a formaldehyde bath; it is not moldable.
CamoBedding says: Dec 4, 2011. 11:32 AM
I had no idea you could make home made plastic.
Banthablaster says: Dec 3, 2011. 1:35 PM
Is the Formaldehyde + Milk Galalith plastic brittle? can it keep a sharp point? will it bend? i will definitely experiment with casien

Any other chemistry suggestions would be welcome.
skooterv2 says: Jan 14, 2009. 1:56 PM
I play airsoft a lot and I play with some people with guns that hurt pretty bad...and this may sound weird but I was wondering if I made this thick enough do U think it could withstand some pretty hard blows like from guns shooting at 400+ fps... TYVM
Banthablaster says: Dec 3, 2011. 1:21 PM
Cool Idea, But how much milk are you willing to spend on this?

Imagine, an army of Cheese-weilding warriors!
drawe21 says: Mar 9, 2009. 9:29 PM
Use the Cornstarch, water, and oil plastic its hard and not too brittle
http://www.instructables.com/id/Easy_Biodegradable_Plastic/
brandon borick says: Feb 12, 2009. 10:41 PM
make a thin sheet then cover the back with glue and fabric
Coffeebot (author) says: Jan 14, 2009. 3:47 PM
It might work, if you make it thick enough. It's pretty brittle in thinner layers, and as such, wouldn't do well as body armor.

As for "making it stronger" (your note below), you could possibly add some fabric, of some sort to strengthen it.
skooterv2 says: Jan 15, 2009. 1:43 PM
Thank you.I really appreciate u getting back to me so quickly. How would u suggest adding fabric to it? Like just adding it in randomly when molding or what? Sorry I have no idea about that. Thanks again
Coffeebot (author) says: Jan 15, 2009. 8:08 PM
Not "randomly" but yes, while you mold it. Probably sandwiching the fabric between two layers of casein would work You'll need something fairly porous -- much looser than cheesecloth, I think. The reason is because of the thick, chunky consistency of the casein, you'll need a lot of gaps between threads in order for two sides to join together.
skooterv2 says: Jan 17, 2009. 2:49 PM
sorry another question if u don't mind. The juice that drains out of the casein and into a large pot, can u stir it and make that into plastic, too?
skooterv2 says: Jan 16, 2009. 5:30 AM
thank you And one last question if u don't mind. How thick would you recommend making it? Obviously you have more experience with casein then me. Tyvm again.
skooterv2 says: Jan 14, 2009. 2:04 PM
btw is there anything I could add to make it stronger?? And if u could e-mail me back on this I would greatly appreciate it
cd41 says: Jan 14, 2009. 4:29 PM
well this maybe the dumbest thing i ever suggested but you could try putting pencil lead(graphite) in it it is carbon and they add carbon to steel to make it harder and fabric or something but thats just what i would try
tbh-1138 says: Dec 12, 2012. 3:27 PM
Steel is iron alloyed with carbon. Putting pencil lead in casein would be like putting pieces of steel in lead to make it harder. It won't be much better than it would without the graphite. Something like fabric or paper pulp could work, though, and I don't think it would set any faster. Fibers make things stronger.
Banthablaster says: Dec 3, 2011. 1:16 PM
I want to use casien to make a DIY arrowpoint. I fear that Casien plastic will be

far, far too brittle. is this true?
TheLodgeShop says: Nov 21, 2011. 3:53 PM
wow very interesting.
Jaspreet kaur says: Oct 11, 2011. 6:49 AM
It is very interesting to make plastic out of milk.
But what are the advantages of extracted plastic?????
Although it contains caesin, would it cause any harm if someone eats it??????
Please do reply as soon as possible......
valleycrosser says: Feb 26, 2011. 9:50 AM
This is cheese. Period. Fromage. Queso. Formaggio. Cheese.
Broom says: Jul 22, 2011. 9:36 AM
Ah-yup. And while it is plastic by nature, a much superior plastic (harder, more resilient to shock, more resistant to mold) can be made by "dissolving" styrofoam in acetone.
bpfh says: Sep 25, 2011. 1:15 PM
This is relevant to my interests. Please explain more :)

Just dissolve the styrofoam (polystyrene?) in acetone to a thick goo, mold and leave to dry in a remote area as not to get her indoors all worked up about the acetone smell?
Broom says: Sep 26, 2011. 8:14 AM
Pretty much, bpfh. It's a weird, fun process: the acetone "eats" up the styrofoam like a hungry monster, turning a huge amount into a small "sediment" of sticky plastic.

It can take days & days for it to dry on its own, and of course it gives off acetone fumes the whole time. There's no chemical reaction - the acetone just dissolves the styrene in the the mostly-air styrofoam (emphasis on "foam"!), and then gets trapped inside the drying skin of the finished plastic if it's thick, slowing down the drying.

It shrinks somewhat in the drying process, but never (IME) breaks. Also, it seems to change if left in the acetone for a long time, becoming resistant to shape change, so it's best to mold it immediately after dissolving the styrene.
Broom says: Sep 26, 2011. 8:17 AM
BTW, an entire styrofoam cooler can be dissolved into about a pint of styrene, if you want an idea of how much contraction goes on in the "eating" portion! Don't have any stats on the drying shrinkage, but it's more like 1-15%... something reasonable.
bpfh says: Sep 27, 2011. 2:59 AM
Thanks for this update! I may try this in the next few weeks!

My project is quite simple: I have a motorbike where you cannot really get any plastic parts for it anywhere for love or money, and I need new wingmirror shells.

So either you are very very very lottery jackpot winning lucky if you find a part on ebay, or you cast it yourself.... I was originally thinking about resin casting, but resin costs a fortune. Casein seemed a good idea but being organic , I'm not sure about resistance to mold and fungus, and styrene seems easy enough to make... even if it may be more fragile than standard ABS plastic, I'm not very worried. You just need a ton of styrofoam to get a handful of goo :)

The other alternatives, like Sugru cost too much to be cost effective, and low temperature thermoplastics could melt if being left in the sun too long, so this method could allow me to make my prototype mirrors !

Cheers,
Daniel

achris4321 says: Sep 16, 2011. 5:10 AM
I am trying to learn how to make a case out of plastic so i need plastic so this was good.
gogglecrab says: Sep 7, 2011. 2:33 PM
what kind of mold would be the best for this plastic?
sudanione says: Aug 3, 2011. 7:18 PM
can this act as greenhouse cover..................................if the answer is no how can i construct green cover at home
khampton2 says: Aug 20, 2011. 12:44 PM
http://www.buffalo-niagaragardening.com/2011/03/22/5-great-tips-for-starting-new-plants-from-cuttings/
k_cat says: Jun 17, 2011. 4:56 PM
I wonder how I could turn the casein into knitting needles. Roll it and sand it down afterwards? Or use a tube or a straw as a mold?
Coffeebot (author) says: Jun 17, 2011. 10:08 PM
An interesting idea -- either might work, but the casein is pretty brittle and might break while you're knitting.

Don't forget that needles have specific sizes; hand rolling, or using a straw might not create a standard size.
k_cat says: Jun 18, 2011. 3:11 AM
I've made needles out of wood before, especially out of dowels which come in various metric sizes. I've seen plastic tubes with a certain diameter on the inside... I wouldn't make knitting needles with a diameter of under 3mm - maybe 4mm or 5mm would be the smallest possible size before they break.
But I think most knitting needles were made out of galalithe - and I'm not really sure I want to use formaldehyde. Hmmmmmmmmmm. On the other hand, casein needles might even break when I'm carefully sanding them down.

Another question, I'm sorry... ;-) Any idea on how to turn the casein into a spinnable fibre?
callmeshane says: Dec 9, 2008. 1:45 AM

Actually this is exactly the same as making tofu, from soya bean curd.

Citric acid - in powder form is cheap - especially in bulk.

Don't know about the casein content of soya bean flour...

Might be an idea to use skim milk powder as the fat free casein might be a better product.

Just curious - not that chemically ofay myself, but one would think that modifying the protein with HEAT and or other chemicals may have been done... just looked up.

http://books.google.com.au/books?id=0g9QjxsbqmUC&pg=PA136&lpg=PA136&dq=casien+plastic+heat+chemical&source=web&ots=u7KLwl6eWg&sig=9V40234r-SgMztftGpwzPYDrQgI&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=1&ct=result

http://209.85.173.132/search?q=cache:SLP_f4OuT7QJ:www.umanitoba.ca/outreach/crystal/resources%2520for%2520teachers/Polymerization%2520-%2520Christy%2520Boettcher%2520%26.doc+casien+plastic+heat+chemical&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=3&gl=au

http://chestofbooks.com/home-improvement/repairs/painting/Paint-Making-Color-Grinding/Part-V-Casein-And-Cold-Water-Paints-Chapter-XXXI-Origin-A.html

http://www.plastics-china.com/Raw_Material.htm

Casein Formaldehyde (Lactoid, Erinoid, Galalith)

Invented at the turn of the century, manufacture was based on fat-free milk to which resin was added to form curds which, when suitably dried, processed and coloured, could be extruded into rods and made into sheets. The material was then hardened in a bath of formaldehyde from whence it was machined into the desired end use. The brilliant colours and patterns made casein a leading material for making products such as buttons, buckles, fountain pen, barrels and knitting needles.

http://museo.cannon.com/museo/inglese/eplasti.htm

# Casein formaldehyde

Casein formaldehyde is a plastic of natural protein origin made from organic substances such as milk, horn or vegetable products such as soy beans, wheat and the like. It was obtained in 1897 by Adolph Spitteler and W.Kirsche who started out with whey and formaldehyde and tested the action of an enzyme on them. The patent was registered in Baviera and then extended to the USA, Great Britain and Italy. It should be noted that with its commercial name, Galalith (Galalite in Italy and Erinoid in Great Britain) it sometimes looked like celluloid, sometimes ivory and sometimes artificial horn. The first factory to manufacture it was in Great Britain in 1913. In 1930 world-wide production had reached 10,000 tons. Casein formaldehyde was used to make buttons, pins, cigarette-cases, fountain pens, umbrella handles and radio cabinets.
gtoal says: Jan 5, 2011. 2:11 PM
Casein-formaldehyde - also known as "French Bakelite" (not to be confused with 'Fake Bakelite' which is becoming a problem in the antiques world...). Bakelite is an interesting substance too but I think because of the pressure vessel needed, probably not a home project. People interested in this area should have a look at the Oogoo instructable as well.
drawe21 says: Mar 9, 2009. 9:37 PM
Formaldehyde causes cancer, same as White lab coats cause cancer in mice...
roliop says: Nov 16, 2010. 5:21 AM
As for the vinegary smell, Wikepedia's article on adhesives says:
"The curds are neutralized with a base, such as sodium bicarbonate (baking soda), to cause them to unclump and become a thicker plastic-like substance."
Could be a useful additional step.
pan9t0n9 says: Feb 15, 2010. 1:36 PM
 Here's a question for anyone who'd tried making this stuff? Will it melt like other plastics? Does tempering work on it?
amackie says: May 26, 2010. 8:43 AM
wiki page
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galalith (if that's what this is) suggests this is a thermoset plastic. So it won't melt.
beehard44 says: Oct 23, 2010. 7:58 AM
galalith is the output of this (casein) and formaldehyde (formalin)
beehard44 says: Oct 23, 2010. 7:55 AM
it's CHEEESE!!!
dude i ate it, tastes good (if you used calamondin (kalamansi) or lemons. They make "kesong puti" out of goat milk here in the philippines"
Whales says: Sep 29, 2010. 2:08 PM
I plan on making a bowl for a zen garden out of this stuff, I will post pictures if i get results.
joezy0 says: Sep 4, 2010. 4:51 PM
Does this plastic go mouldy?
wisdomm says: Jul 14, 2010. 3:51 PM
Hi. I wonder about something. This milk plastic, does it shrink while drying? Im trying to find something that could make it possible for me to shrink an object to get a smaller scale of it, and if the milk plastic is able to shrink some, I could use it. Was wondering if it was possible to mold the item, then pour the milk plastic into it, then let it sit on the warm bathroom floor to dry. I guess the mold has to have a hole to pour into....which would also let out the moisture while drying?
connor14 says: Apr 24, 2010. 7:04 PM
 I have done this it really works! great craft

godspiral says: Oct 12, 2009. 10:35 AM
I tired to make this with left over cappucino foam, but it didn't work at all.

First of all, when you heat milk, it will rise (very rapidly too) at one point.  Is that what you call boiling?

I used 1% (organic) milk.  I pored some into hdpe container after it rose.  I may have used a foaming whip while it was heating. and did use foaming whip after I pored into container.  Straining it had very little and very thin clumps of goop.  Metal strainer instead of coffee filter prob didn't help much.  No amount of reheating and adding more vinegar helped in getting a useful amount of goop.

As I write this, I realize that foaming whip probably broke down the cassein into smaller than metal strainer holes.
Coffeebot (author) says: Oct 12, 2009. 6:21 PM
No no...the cappuccino foam is steamed milk -- you're adding a lot of water and air to it, which is how the foam is made.

This process needs the milk to be simmering. There will be a little bit of foam at the edge of the pot, but not much. You definitely shouldn't see it bubbling. 

Once you've hit that point, add the vinegar. Follow the steps I've laid out; they work quite well.

And, why are you using hdpe? That's already plastic...petroleum based, and nothing like what we're making here. I'm also a little confused as to how you got liquid hdpe...I didn't think that was something readily available outside of an industrial facility (nor something you would be handling in the kitchen...)
godspiral says: Oct 14, 2009. 12:51 PM
it was just a clean hdpe yougurt container, that I transfered the milkto and from via the strainer.

I still don't understand what simmering milk is.  

When you Heat milk, it will eventually rise up and thicken, and quicklyoverflow the pot.  Simmering must mean the very light bubbling thatoccurs just before this stage?
macrumpton says: Apr 15, 2010. 4:54 AM
FYI If the yogurt container was white plastic it is almost certainly polypropylene (PP) and not high density polyethelene (HDPE).
lycoris3 says: Aug 23, 2008. 9:59 AM
I just told my dad about this and he said you were basicly making cheese! He's a chief.
Wesley666 says: Feb 15, 2010. 2:09 PM
Its true, this is Curds and Whey this Instructable is showing you how to make.  Curds are used to make cheese (Another process) or can be eaten as is...This is not plastic...not even close...
Wesley666 says: Feb 15, 2010. 2:22 PM
To make cheese, once its been strayed, leave it in the cheesecloth and squeeze more liquid out.  Add a pinch of salt and mix it into the Curds.  Then squeeze out the rest of the liquid and put it in a mold or leave as a ball and put it in the fridge for a couple hours.  I do this once and awhile and its pretty good...
drawe21 says: Mar 9, 2009. 9:39 PM
Your dad is right...
princewilliams says: Mar 27, 2009. 1:36 PM
So is it plastic or cheese
arduinoe says: Apr 25, 2009. 3:00 PM
cheese you say ... you know , ford KA bumpers and McDonald cheese burgers have the same base ingredients
oracle_fire13 says: Dec 7, 2008. 1:54 AM
Mr. Coffeebot... we have a project in Chemistry... can you give me a tip because we choose this as our project... ty!
beehard44 says: Oct 23, 2010. 8:00 AM
use formaldehyde; add it to the curds
bpfh says: Sep 25, 2011. 1:27 PM
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL :)

Darn right. It gives it a little more "bite"! (it will also slow down growth of green fur :) )
wrecche says: Dec 3, 2008. 5:52 PM
Hahaha your dad is a chief? Chief of what? Now if he was a chef, that would be something - he could cook you dinner! 8]
lycoris3 says: Mar 16, 2010. 12:43 PM
you know those awesome food magazines with those fancy designs with the food?  My dad does that.  and ice sculptures.  and watermelon sculptures, chocolate sculptures, and the one-time ice-cream sculpture.  really cool.
Wesley666 says: Feb 15, 2010. 2:08 PM
I see problems with this.  If you're just using Milk and Vinegar, then your not making plastic.  Your actually making Curds, the solid part, and Whey, the liquid part.  Your "Plastic" is actually very edible substance that is used to make cheese...I'm not sure, but your plastic may go bad/mold if you leave it for awhile, or gets wet...
dodo91 says: Mar 14, 2009. 9:24 PM
can you add food coloring to make diffrent color plastic? i want to make this for my little brother, but white would be BORING!
a_traceur says: Nov 7, 2009. 2:45 PM
You sure can, just add it before you start the cooking process!
Vic Rattlehead says: Nov 3, 2009. 6:15 PM
if i make it maybe 1/2 inch thick, how brittle would that be, plus does this stuff deteriorate?
isaac b says: Oct 21, 2009. 9:53 AM
i hate when they fool people like that
Foaly7 says: Sep 10, 2009. 5:28 PM
And this is just like commercial-grade plastic?
Coffeebot (author) says: Sep 11, 2009. 8:12 AM
Not at all. Read the intro for a description of it.
Foaly7 says: Sep 11, 2009. 12:43 PM
Okay.
i_build_stuff says: Jun 11, 2009. 12:21 PM
This is pretty cool and i think im going to make a few thin sheets for airsoft myself but im going to use them as targets hopefully if its as brittle as you say it will shatter nicely.
thefluffball says: Jul 10, 2009. 5:22 AM
You should use Sugar Glass, heh - it's quicker to make. ;)
Maureclaire says: Mar 10, 2009. 7:34 AM
Mix in some dryer lint... dryer lint clay is awesome... just Google dryer lint clay ! Strongest stuff ever !
thepelton says: Jun 12, 2009. 12:48 PM
I should think that you would want natural fibers, not synthetic dryer lint fibers for this, but you could add color and strength to it with dryer lint.
mnkypwr says: Feb 1, 2009. 12:36 PM
what do u do with the excess liquid? can it be thrown out like any other liquid?
drawe21 says: Mar 9, 2009. 9:32 PM
Put a coffee filter in your colander and save every bit of the plastic. The rest down the drain.
Coffeebot (author) says: Feb 1, 2009. 7:55 PM
Yeah, I usually pour it down the sink. It's the super chunky stuff that I think would be bad to let wash down. Once you've strained it a few times to get the big stuff out, it should be safe to dump. Run the tap for a little while just to make sure everything is washed down. YMMV, of course. I've had no problems, but you never know.
starberry_lov3r says: Jan 7, 2009. 7:05 PM
plz help does it biodegrade or decompose help help help1!!!!!!!!!!!
mweston says: Jan 7, 2009. 7:28 PM
Well, it is made from milk and as far as I know milk is entirely biodegradable... If you want to be sure a quick search on Google asking "is casein biodegradable" should yield good results
Coffeebot (author) says: Jan 7, 2009. 8:19 PM
*points at msweston* What he said.
mweston says: Jan 8, 2009. 12:46 PM
Really... ok then
wenpherd says: Jan 5, 2009. 7:44 PM
when it dry's is it smooth and isit strong
Coffeebot (author) says: Jan 5, 2009. 9:13 PM
It's not smooth, but you can lightly sand it. It's not super-strong, though. Fairly brittle if it's thin, and you can snap it when it's thicker.
mr.space says: Jan 3, 2009. 12:40 PM
might wanna add some dextrin to it, doesn't seem to stick to itself very well
freerunnin1 says: Dec 14, 2008. 7:26 AM
can u colour it? u could spray it but it would rub off in time, does ani 1 have ideas on how to get a strong lasting colour? would food colouring work? thanx in advance:) i like cheeze:)
mtownsend says: Dec 15, 2008. 6:38 PM
I figure that maybe you could paint it whatever you want it to be then put a clear coat of something like a glue on it to protect the paint. Personally I'm going to do this to make a hood ornament
yahoo23 says: Aug 10, 2008. 3:03 AM
How strong do you think this will be against drops, bumps, and scratches? I was thinking of maybe making a case out of this for my iPod or phone. Any ideas? Or would it be easier just to buy one from a store?
freerunnin1 says: Dec 14, 2008. 7:35 AM
make the case then to toughen it up put a couple of coats of pva glue on it, itll stop scratches and give resistance to shock for your phone :) i like cheeze :)
Coffeebot (author) says: Aug 10, 2008. 3:12 PM
I wouldn't recommend this for anything that will see frequent and potentially rough use. You would probably be better off just buying something from the store. I know there are some products available that you could buy to make your own case...but I wouldn't know where to start looking, honestly.
oracle_fire13 says: Dec 11, 2008. 2:01 AM
YES! Our work is success!!!!
cav_dog says: Oct 27, 2008. 3:51 PM
if the plastic was made thich enough could it be made to mkae a ball? say to play bocce or a golf ball ?
Coffeebot (author) says: Oct 27, 2008. 4:34 PM
"Technically" it could. I mean, yeah, you could make something like that with this stuff. But it would probably shatter if you hit it with a golf club. Besides -- golf balls aren't solid plastic. Even if it survived the game, it wouldn't behave the same way a real golf ball would. ...now, if you could swap one of these out for a friend's ball, you might have the makings of a great practical joke!
oracle_fire13 says: Dec 8, 2008. 4:11 AM
Is there any financial advantage for this project? coz milk is quite expensive here.
Coffeebot (author) says: Dec 8, 2008. 3:21 PM
None whatsoever. It's really just a novelty item.
oracle_fire13 says: Dec 9, 2008. 2:25 AM
wew... is that so.... hmmm....
edfel01 says: Dec 8, 2008. 6:25 PM
cool some plastics i can actually make and mold +5
vedran_setka says: May 3, 2007. 3:13 PM
Good tutorial, but I cant find simmilar things. Can anyone put some links with simmilar sites or articles? I am intrested in home - made materials... Thanks
Coffeebot (author) says: May 3, 2007. 3:51 PM
Unfortunately, I don't know of much else. I'd say just try googling for "homemade X", where X is whatever it is you're trying to make.

This plastic is actually featured in quite a few elementary science projects. <cheap plug>
I actually learned about it from a nifty book "Sneaky Uses for Everyday Items" (Buy it from ThinkGeek).
</cheap plug>

I was surprised that this hadn't been posted before on Instructables.
Coffee bean says: Dec 8, 2008. 5:26 PM
same here! it is better or instructables. that book has alook of kinda childish things it.
maker12 says: Sep 26, 2008. 1:37 PM

Constructive criticism sucks

Coffeebot (author) says: Sep 26, 2008. 3:00 PM
Nope. Never.

Constructive criticism is a good thing. It only sucks if you don't like being corrected, or having someone provide an idea that may benefit your work.
lycoris3 says: Aug 23, 2008. 9:56 AM
have you ever used it for making dishes other than forks? let me know.
Coffeebot (author) says: Sep 26, 2008. 2:58 PM
Forks? I don't follow.
oilman1 says: Aug 10, 2008. 4:38 PM
if colored, could it be sprayed?? I think it could be a good stucco(cheaper)
Coffeebot (author) says: Aug 10, 2008. 8:01 PM
Noooo...this would be a horrible substitute for stucco.

Poor consistency, and it doesn't stick to itself without applying a bit of pressure.
chamunks says: Jun 30, 2008. 4:58 PM
If one were to want to add a color to this casein would before adding the vinegar be a good time to add some sort of food coloring?
Coffeebot (author) says: Jul 2, 2008. 8:44 PM
That's actually a great question...I haven't tried it. I'll have to give it a go...but I'm doubtful that it will work. Maybe adding coloring while you spread it and/or strain it.
adlabens says: Jul 6, 2008. 5:43 PM
May want to try Easter egg dye because the recipe for that calls for some vinegar (I presume that helps the dye penetrate the calcium egg shell).
whiteoakart says: Aug 7, 2008. 1:13 PM
in general, vinegar helps 'set' the dye and makes it more water-resistant. However, as vinegar is an acid and egg shells are a base, your idea is certainly plausible.
thegunthing says: Jul 30, 2008. 8:19 AM
just wondering, did you happen to get this "recipe" from the book "Sneaky Uses for Everyday Things" by Cy Tymony? This is almost the same thing and if you didnt, i would still recomend the book for anyone
Coffeebot (author) says: Jul 31, 2008. 11:01 AM
It is, and it isn't... The Instructable was borne from "necessity" when I was trying out something for a computer case mod. I remembered doing this project as a tyke, and fiddled around until I got it working. Ironically, a friend of mine bought me a copy of the book not too long ago. It is indeed a great book to have around! But I do agree that his recipe is similar to mine...but a little googling shows it's a very common process.
tabletopphoto says: Jul 30, 2008. 8:28 AM
Why not use something cheaper than cheese cloth like nylons. You can buy those in those little plastic containers for under 50 cents
joustin says: Jul 24, 2008. 12:01 PM
Casein will discolor and eventually re-hydrate in water. I have seen the damage on fountain pens when people try to soak the ink out of them.
xenobiologista says: Jul 16, 2008. 1:10 PM
For the step where you strain it, and the step when you're pressing out the excess liquid, you probably should use cheesecloth. That's pretty much what it's designed for - it's pretty cheap and you can get it at many supermarkets in the section that sells kitchen utensils. Wrapping it up in a cheesecloth will also enable you to squeeze it harder and get more liquid out. For the stingy, since you're not planning to eat it, you could probably also use any old piece of cotton like an old T-shirt.
banjowarior says: Jun 13, 2008. 1:36 PM
hi everyone, i'm french and obviously(?) know a lot about cheese, and what you obtain here is definitely not cheese, it is called "galalithe" (in french that is, no idea what you'd call it in english) which literally translates into "milk-stone". i know it was used in early 20th century before oil-based plastic, or regular plastic, was invented. people used to make all sorts of things out of it, from fountain pens to jewellery... but because regular plastic was more resistant galalithe became less and less used. anyway, that's a great instructable for anybody looking for a quick, cheap, and yet organic alternative to plastic
Seattlejo says: Jun 22, 2008. 10:54 PM
It's cheese. It's similar to a queso bianco , scroll down to the recipe here http://www.foodsci.uoguelph.ca/dairyedu/cheese2.html
The ratio for vinegar / milk might be different but there is a very similar form that is eaten as cheese (Perhaps its just not a kind of cheese you see in France? I've also seen variations with lemon used instead of vinegar, wonder if that would work for plastic too.)

jauncourt says: Jul 16, 2008. 12:56 PM
I think the key is that the milk is boiled, not simmered. Heat levels are pretty key when making fresh cheese at home. If you boil the liquid, you can definitely get something that isn't cheese...
Kooshi_Govno says: Jun 15, 2008. 4:21 AM
Chemically is it the protein casein, and though this itself is not cheese, it is actually the main ingredient. these are the "curds", the only difference is that here it is being separated by ready made acid as opposed to bacteria made acid (rotten milk) or enzymes (cheese).
b5200 says: Jun 14, 2008. 7:58 PM
He said it was like soggy cheese in consistency he never called it cheese. He just compared how it feels to soggy cheese.
ashafras says: Jun 14, 2008. 5:46 PM
Salut! I'm almost 100% sure that what you're talking about is called bakelight in English. The jewelry is actually pretty sought after now, albeit hard to find.
forgesmith says: Jun 14, 2008. 6:44 PM
Um, no, Bakelite was the first plastic made from synthetic (non-organic) materials. Still in use today.
BuhlMan says: Jun 15, 2008. 6:27 PM
Yes, Bakelite is still widely used and it is very useful for jigs and high temperature applications. Not use to make jewelry anymore and you color choice is very limited and it is usually brown.
AndyGondorf says: Jun 15, 2008. 3:17 PM
Although rarely , since Bakelite is only available in dark colours. Urea-formaldehdye on the other hand is widely used in household electrical applications e.g. plugs / sockets as it's base colour is white, so can be dyed any variant from there. Easily made in the lab by dissolving a bit of urea in some dilute HCl, then adding formaldehyde (or methanal in new money) to taste. (disclaimer: please don't taste, touch or smell; methanal is unbelievably nasty stuff) Polymerises in five mins to a white, crumbly powder.
DWRead says: Jun 14, 2008. 10:40 AM
The history is interesting--thank you for posting it.
adlabens says: Jul 6, 2008. 5:51 PM
I would love to make a serving "table" for the back yard, using pressure treated lumber so that it would handle the weather, but also having a plastic insert so that I could fill it with ice and stuff bottles & cans into it, leaving it open for all to see but keeping the stuff cold without having it water log the lumber. I'm wondering if this application would cause this homemade plastic to disintegrate?
chamunks says: Jun 30, 2008. 4:53 PM
Would Cheese Cloth tea towel J cloth etc. suffice as a strainer liner or strainer replacement to ensure the successful capture of all the casesin?
Coffeebot (author) says: Jul 2, 2008. 8:45 PM
Yes, absolutely! I didn't have any cheese cloth when I did this (and it didn't even cross my mind, either), so I didn't mention it. But, yeah, something like that would work even better than the strainer.
chamunks says: Jun 30, 2008. 5:01 PM
Could you rinse this with some hot water to possibly remove as much of the smelly liquid as possible?
Coffeebot (author) says: Jul 2, 2008. 8:42 PM
I don't really know about rinsing with hot water...I don't think it would hurt it too much. However, it's not really all that smelly if you strain it well enough.
instructionsguy11791 says: Jun 30, 2008. 9:26 PM
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macruadhi says: Jun 28, 2008. 3:21 AM
Just think what else you can make out of cheese! OK, it's really cheese curds.
Solenoidclock says: Jun 15, 2008. 11:12 AM
Ha, you're just a skip and a hop away from a big batch of morphine.
hey says: Jun 27, 2008. 3:47 AM
wait....how do you actually get morphine from this?
AndyGondorf says: Jun 17, 2008. 2:38 PM
Morphine's an alkaloid, not a protein. You might want to check your chemistry there?
Solenoidclock says: Jun 20, 2008. 11:57 PM
The peptides effect the nervous system in much the same way. To clarify, that's where the similarities end and they are nothing like what you'd get in an IV.
AndyGondorf says: Jul 5, 2008. 7:58 AM
Sorry, but that's still wrong for two reasons. 1: Biochemical. Receptors in the brain are extremely specific with regards to the molecules that can bind to them. This binding is achieved through both physical 3D shape and chemical binding points on the agonist/receptor interface. Even if molecules appear superficially similar (which alkaloids and peptides aren't) they are extremely unlikely to be substituted with each other. This specifivity is needed to keep an extremely complex biochemical machine like a human working without being easily screwed up by other chemicals passing through our bodies. 2: Pharmaceutical. If there was a peptide that had the same analgesic effect as morphine or other opiates without the associated problems, (not to mention being much cheaper to synthesise/extract) then various pharm companies would be flogging it to us making pain more bearable for us all. If you know of a peptide which does bind to the opiate pain receptors, please tell us all.
rptbandgeek1707 says: Jun 15, 2008. 9:39 PM
wait. WHAT?
FreshPineSent says: Jun 15, 2008. 5:19 PM
Really? Holy crap!
thomas the lover says: Jun 24, 2008. 12:42 PM
This will make great plastic sabots for a spud gun.
blugyblug says: Jun 27, 2008. 12:49 AM
Or maybe actual ammo for a spud gun. You could mold it well too.
shooby says: Jun 26, 2008. 7:21 AM
Little Miss Muffet Sat on a tuffet Eating her curds and whey. Along came a spider Who sat down beside her And frightened Miss Muffet away. Your plastic is just dried curds. The liquid you drain off is whey. You should drink the whey, that would be economical and environmentally friendly.
fifilaru says: Jun 23, 2008. 2:45 PM
it is a type of plastic, not cheese, from WikipediaWikipedia:

"In addition to being consumed in milk, casein is used in the manufacture of adhesives, binders, protective coatings, plastics (such as for knife handles and knitting needles), fabrics, food additives and many other products. "

So, yes, this is plastic.
thinker says: Jun 24, 2008. 6:53 PM
errm
just cos its used in the manufacture of plastics doesnt make it a plastic, it makes a part of a type of plastic, not one in and of itself
unless im mistaken the definition of a plastic is a long-stringed hydrocarbon polymer
this does not involve cracking
so tisnt one of the above
which would mean it isnt a plastic by definition
or so i believe
=]
neuralstatic says: Jun 24, 2008. 5:37 PM
can you tell me what you have used this for? i want to get an idea of the strength and usefulness of it. i can see it for molded packing material maybe? anyone's experience for uses?
Taboo says: Jun 24, 2008. 1:15 PM
Very good idea.
tonymaye says: Jun 24, 2008. 5:33 AM
brilliant, when you're done with using what you've made you can eat it, compost it, or give it to the dog!
qwixel says: Jun 23, 2008. 11:48 PM
Dang, I read about this in grade 1 and always wanted to try it, but my parents were too cheap to waste the milk! [slaps head] Wait, I'm not a kid anymore!!!! I can try this experiment with my OWN milk! Hot darn! The cheesecloth suggestion for draining is right on the money - way more effective than a colinder. Also, if you are worried about the strength, my thought would be to add fibers of some sort (left overs from a fiberglass repair kit, or even cut up dental floss) - something to add tensile strength to the mix. Any thoughts on colouring with food colour?
chalouh says: Jun 23, 2008. 1:56 PM
actually casein buttons are made in Italy, just google them, you`ll see lots of images, I have some with me and they fell like ceramic.
xlioilx says: Oct 25, 2007. 5:46 AM
What kind of plastic is this? I think that it would biodegrade very fast as its not really a polymer this is more like making old style glue then plastic. I seriously doubt that it melts very well. The odor would be nasty like burnt fingernails. Most plastic smells sweet when its melted, or sometimes it smells like ammonia. It just depends on the type of plastic, blowing agent if any and coloring. Seriously though if you want some plastic for a project that will melt right, just find a clear container and grind it or cut it up. Then put it through your extruder that you have hooked up to the 480 volt transformer in your garage. That would work much better if you wanted to make something out of plastic. Trust me I work with injection molding machines every day. Still it is a nice harmless science project for the kids.
mrthumbtack says: Jun 15, 2008. 11:46 PM
Actually, this stuff probably would melt. According to wikipedia: "casein is used in the manufacture of adhesives, binders, protective coatings, plastics (such as for knife handles and knitting needles), fabrics, food additives and many other products." In addition casein is basically cheese protein, and that melts just fine.
mizmercer says: Jun 23, 2008. 1:24 PM
Based on my experience with casein knitting needles, they smell like leather, and you are advised not to soak them in water as they will melt. I haven't tried this myself cause they cost too much to sacrifice. Casein needles tend to be more brittle than plastic (I've snapped a few in half), but they are not as prone to causing static electricity in knitting nylon (which can happen with carbon-based plastic needles).
bytowneboy says: Jun 16, 2008. 7:14 AM
The acid keeps the caisein from melting. I cook with this type of cheese all the time. No melting.
mrthumbtack says: Jun 16, 2008. 6:16 PM
Thanks for the correction. I was just making an educated guess.
MePerson says: Jun 15, 2008. 5:40 AM
Uhhh... why do you smell the melting plastic? Won't that give you brain damage or something?
James (pseudo-geek) says: Jun 15, 2008. 7:55 AM
yes, it does cause brain damage.
carolyn walker says: May 8, 2008. 2:32 PM
What kind of "extruder"?
maker12 says: Nov 28, 2007. 6:33 PM
DIY Reprap.LOL
az1 says: Jun 23, 2008. 7:29 AM
Instead of reinventing the wheel :) read:

<a href="http://www.google.com/books?id=csZLAAAAIAAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=casein#PPA109,M1">Casein: Its Preparation and Technical Utilisation
By Robert Scherer, Charles Salter</A>, 1911
Goedjn says: Jun 19, 2008. 9:16 AM
Ok, I finally got around to trying this, and I note that if you pack the stuff into a vapor-proof form (Like, say, a length of pipe) it can easily take over a week to dry. Also, I get better results if I cast under a fair amount of pressure. Note that if you take the curds and add somewhere around 5% alkali (baking soda, or potash) you get a sloppy mass that makes fairly good paste/glue/epoxy.
mdeblasi1 says: Jun 17, 2008. 4:48 PM
Didn't we get into big trouble w/ bio-fuel because there suddenly was not enough corn to cover food and fuel? Why would we ever want to consider giving someone the same idea w/ milk. Of course, you can hardly call that ultra pasteurized, vitamin spiked, anti-biotic & hormone laced industrial cow secretion they sell at US grocery stores "milk"
linkmaster03 says: Jun 16, 2008. 7:09 PM
Looks like a very nice instructable! But personally I like using styrofoam and acetone. This can be a fun project for kids.
jongscx says: Jun 17, 2008. 8:55 AM
if you use kerosene, you can teach them about napalm!
linkmaster03 says: Jun 17, 2008. 11:34 AM
Lmao, I meant the milk version for kids.
forgesmith says: Jun 16, 2008. 8:38 PM
Found a history of casein, mentions how to use it, quite informative. Needs to be hardened with formaldehyde? Worth the read.
quntmphscs says: Jun 16, 2008. 12:19 PM
Where is the final product? I wanted to see it actually made into something and hold stuff. This is EXACTLY how I made soft cottage cheese by the way, except for the pressing part. I let the "curds" drain in a cheese cloth (or similar cloth) set inside of a strainer and let it sit one hour. The stuff that drains out, the animals will drink it like crazy. The other stuff refrigerate and add whatever you want. Pepper, berries, olive oil & spiced. Eat like cottage cheese, but it's better. 1/2 gallon milk, when boiling on the sides (called scalding) add 1/4 C Apple cider vinegar and stir. Let it sit in the pot till it cools. Then strain.
t.rohner says: Jun 15, 2008. 11:32 AM
Why don't you take cheesecloth for straining, that's what is made for.
bytowneboy says: Jun 16, 2008. 7:26 AM
+1
Alienor says: Jun 16, 2008. 2:38 AM
*lol* Adding acids to boiling milk is the usual way to make Ricotta or Paneer, not plastic...*ggg*
sypher says: Jun 16, 2008. 1:59 AM
sorry if someone has already stated this this is how plastic was made prior to the discovery of petrol. the method was more refined and the plastic was more precision than this DIY
CowGuy says: Jun 15, 2008. 6:33 PM
I wonder if you could use this as pots for plants and things. It would be nice too, since this should easily be biodegradable to, so when you want to put the plant in the ground you could just crumble this up and put in your soil.
bigfootduck says: Jun 15, 2008. 6:02 PM
does it smell bad while drying?
bigfootduck says: Jun 15, 2008. 5:48 PM
the second picture is my favorite. It reminds me of my cat. except she is so spoiled that no matter how many times i pet her, she doesn't go away. UGH!
blackrazor says: Jun 15, 2008. 5:26 PM
This is really cool! Can you pour/push this into molds? If so what kind of mold would you use? My wife wants to do this as a project with her Girl Scout troop, but wanted to mold the plastic into something cool...
Bilsy28 says: Jun 14, 2008. 5:35 PM
How strong is the plastic? Can you put other stuff on it after you put make this (to make it stronger)?
Phantomn says: Jun 14, 2008. 3:00 PM
For the floral decorating you could use gelatin. It would be clear and you could vary the strength. To my knowledge it isn't highly expensive.
Leroy says: Jun 14, 2008. 1:35 PM
Coffeebot, Consider yourself very, very lucky if your wife lets you in the kitchen alone after this fiasco. By the way, you forgot a picture of the thing you made with this stuff. Was it worthwhile?
MrFairlady says: Jun 14, 2008. 8:32 AM
A great idea man but i dont know about the milk. Doesn't milk rot/spoil, especially if its solid? maybe itll last a week or two but i think after that itll begin to smell like rotten milk. plz reply back so cuz i wanna know if it stays plasticy or not
pierrehenri says: Jun 14, 2008. 2:15 AM
Instead of using a plastic drain and paper towels, you could use only one regular cloth towel, you can then press it to remove water and vinegar.
flagrantfouler says: Jun 13, 2008. 9:30 PM
How would this stuff hold up to vegetable oil? I'm making a funnel for filling up my wvo drum and this stuff is perfect for that.
tercero says: Jun 13, 2008. 10:06 AM
Less plastic, more "cheese". You've created cheese there amigo.
AndyGondorf says: Jun 13, 2008. 10:52 AM
In this case Tercero, he's in fact created a huge clump of protein molecules attracted to each other by intermolecular hydrogen bonds (with very little secondary or tertiary structure, suggesting little intramolecular bonding; see wikipedia on caesin or casein depending on how you spell it)

There's a pretty thin line between a big bunch of protein molecules (polypeptides) stuck together and a big bunch of polyamides as seen in various synthetic polymers like nylon or Nomex (tm).

That would be why one familiar natural protein polymer was used as the elastic in medieval siege catapults and trebuchets; hair.

Nice instructible Coffeebot, I've set this as a homework excercise for my fourth year chemistry class and look forward to seeing how they do.
Reba says: Jan 13, 2008. 9:25 AM
It needs to be clear and milk would not be the answer. Thanks. No use for the floral shops to respond as I have been there and did that and it is toooooooooooooooooooo expensive. Reba
AllergicToMilk says: Jun 13, 2008. 8:21 AM
Try using fiberglass resin (with out applying it to fiberglass.)
JeremyA says: May 14, 2008. 8:53 PM
This would be interesting to experiment with in making all sorts of green items. I wonder if you could use spoiled milk as long as you could handle the smell. I would like to use this to make aerodynamic pannels for an enclosed Bike project I am making. Who knows, just a thought.
Reba says: Jan 12, 2008. 3:54 PM
Ha I am desperate to find out how to make clear fake water that will almost harden . I am going to use it for artificial floral decorating in vases so it will look like real water. I can buy it but it is 20.00 for 8 oz and that isn't even enough to cover the bottom of a vase. There must be a cheaper way to make it.
Goedjn says: Apr 22, 2008. 11:20 AM
Why "almost harden"? If you're willing to
let it set up hard, then any clear
epoxy will work.

If you're not worried about flamability,
then penreco makes a clear candle-gel
(basically, clear vasoline) that ought to work,
and you can even add scents to it.
http://www.penreco.com
munshy says: Mar 26, 2008. 12:58 AM
Hello Reba, i'm looking for the same thing any luck did u figure out how to make it plz let me know if so.
ironman0104 says: Mar 3, 2008. 8:16 AM
You can try items used for flooring. I use Future for creating water for models that need water with them. Future is fairly inexpensive and I learned this from Fine Scale Modeler.
Reba says: Mar 3, 2008. 1:10 PM
This sounds cool. Thank you I am going out in the kitchen to try it now. THANK YOU
Coffeebot (author) says: Jan 12, 2008. 8:27 PM
Hmm...I think what you're looking for is a resin, of some sort. $20 for 8 ounces seems pretty steep. Try googling for it -- you can probably get it cheaper if it's not labeled for floral design
Reba says: Jan 13, 2008. 5:02 AM
My fingers are sore from Googling it . Nothing at all but thanks
Coffeebot (author) says: Jan 13, 2008. 8:06 AM
Here's some from Floral Illusions $23 for 32oz
and another at Kinkade Studios $14.95 for 16oz

Google for "Acrylic water". I think it's a little different than a normal plastic resin.

inspiron1520 says: Mar 28, 2008. 9:22 PM
I want to mold it not make a frisbee
sweetsandtea says: Mar 1, 2008. 3:01 PM
Hey guys....say, I make faux food and wonder if that homemade plastic can be rolled out, cut and molded over or in something? Thanx!
Jafafa Hots says: Apr 28, 2007. 10:19 PM
hey, can anything like this be done with soy milk? I make my own soy milk, it's a lot cheaper than real milk, and can be substituted for real milk in a lot of things, recipes, etc., so it acts the same. It supposedly will curdle with vinegar (to make tofu) though nigari (a magnesium salt) works better. Would be a lot cheaper to be able to make something like this out of soy...
Coffeebot (author) says: Apr 29, 2007. 12:27 AM
Good question. I don't believe that it would work the same way, as soy milk isn't quite the same as cow milk. But, it can be curdled in similar ways (cheese, yogurt, etc.) as moo juice, so maybe you can. Give it a try, and let us know how it turns out! Do you have an Instructable out for making your own Soy milk? I love making my own food products from scratch.
Jafafa Hots says: Apr 29, 2007. 2:07 AM
I just make it with a soy milk machine, cost me about $100. It's just easier that way. But its easy to find recipes on the web if you don't want to buy a machine. Basically all you are doing is soaking the beans, then grinding them and boiling them in a strainer thing, etc. The machine (soyquick) is nice because it does it all itself in about 13 minutes. 1/2 cup of beans makes about 1.5 quarts of soy milk. You can make tofu from the milk, and you can use the okara (leftover soybean pulp) to make veggie burgers, etc.
royalestel says: Apr 30, 2007. 8:27 AM
Well, we started drinking soy milk when my youngest daughter couldn't keep down cow's milk. Now we prefer it, even though it is way more expensive (we don't have a soymilk machine). Now she's old enough she CAN keep down cow's milk, but BOY do those diapers stink. So I'm just trying to say, I think it's time we broke down and got a soy milk machine. Or started making our own. Or something.
Jafafa Hots says: Apr 30, 2007. 9:33 PM
The machine is cool, you can make rice milk, almond milk, etc. Basically you can use any grain, any bean or any nut, and mixtures thereof. So you could make almond/flax milk, black bean, etc. Some people mess around to find something they like, adding various things like sea salt, maple syrup, vanilla or whatever. I find that I just like soy with a little turbinado sugar thrown in. how about lima bean milk! :D
w00ty32 says: Dec 3, 2007. 6:50 PM
LOL Lima bean milk ewww *drinks some & pukes*
royalestel says: May 1, 2007. 9:48 AM
How about rye milk ;D Yucko, think I'll stick with soy there, Jafafa! :)
Ctrl+Alt+De1337 says: May 4, 2007. 3:23 AM
I'm gonna make some coffee milk. To put in my coffee.
royalestel says: May 5, 2007. 9:14 AM
Love your username!
PKM says: Jun 3, 2007. 10:48 AM
Holy crap- that's the geekiest thing I've ever seen! Love it :D (the username I mean, not the cheese plastic) Once the plastic is completely cured, is it relatively hard? Like.. the regular white computer peripheral plastic hardness? More importantly, is it waterproof or will it dissolve into a runny cheesy mess if you get it wet? Finally, do you know its temperature tolerance/heat behaviour? Have to consider these things... but if it's a reasonably practical finished material, you may have just answered one of my prayers. Finally, a quick Google of "soy milk casein" appears to show that casein is found in all mammal milk in varying quantities but not in soy or other vegetable milk substitutes.
royalestel says: Jun 4, 2007. 9:38 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casein

Seems to be hard and water insoluble, but soluble in salt solutions.
PKM says: Jun 4, 2007. 4:47 PM
Silly me- not checking the fount of all knowledge. As casein plastic is used in cutlery handles and knitting needles, it seems it's easily hard enough to be practical for a lot of uses. Good stuff.
Coffeebot (author) says: Jun 4, 2007. 7:00 PM
It is fairly rigid, and when I applied a flame to it, it bubbled and crackled, but didn't melt quite like normal plastic or wax. It is, however, oddly brittle. Thin pieces will snap very easily, but a piece about 1/8 inch thick takes a bit of effort-to snap -- but it is nowhere near as strong as the plastic on your computer case or other household items. And yes, it won't dissolve in plain old water. Water-based paints take to it okay, too.
notstarman says: Apr 29, 2007. 12:07 AM
You make your own milk....... I'm both disturbed and curios. I thought powdered milk being cheep.
w00ty32 says: Dec 3, 2007. 6:53 PM
powdered milk is being cheap though. Good in homemade white bread, though
Jafafa Hots says: Apr 29, 2007. 2:08 AM
I make SOY milk. Costs just a few cents a quart.
mikemwa says: Jun 14, 2008. 8:58 AM
How do you make the Soy milk?
Jafafa Hots says: Jun 14, 2008. 12:39 PM
I make it with this:
http://www.soymilkmaker.com/

though actually now I use it to make walnut milk - healthier for men.
It makes milk from any bean, nut, grain or seed.
!Andrew_Modder! says: Jun 19, 2007. 12:45 PM
lol did you know that lumpy stuff is cottage cheese, you can also eat it by putting a lil half and half on top to moisten it! (i saw it of Elten Browns 'Good Eats' a few days a go)
X_D_3_M_1 says: Nov 9, 2007. 4:31 PM
ALTON! yeah thats my fav show.
maker12 says: Nov 28, 2007. 6:32 PM
me too
!Andrew_Modder! says: Nov 9, 2007. 7:55 PM
lol it is a damn good show!
maker12 says: Nov 28, 2007. 6:32 PM
youre scomach has acid in it so milk forms "DIY platic" in youre somach. gross!
starterpistol says: Oct 10, 2007. 2:30 PM
It is a cheese if you heat the milk to 190 degrees and add 1/4 cup of vinegar. Called Queso Blanco.
budsiskos says: Sep 25, 2007. 8:16 PM
can you melt it
brown kid 23 says: Jul 30, 2007. 1:35 AM
I'm looking for molds for molten lead or aluminum, would this plastic hold up to at least lead's melting point or would it melt too?
threecheersfornick says: Aug 26, 2007. 5:43 PM
Just a quick warning, lead is extremely poisonous (lead pipes may have been related to the fall of Rome). So instead you might want to try aluminum foil -- it melted quite easily with my (mums) blowtorch. Just don't try pop cans, they don't work.
Coffeebot (author) says: Jul 30, 2007. 10:36 AM
I highly doubt that this would stand up to those temps.
Brandon121233 says: Jul 26, 2007. 2:16 PM
I guess my instructable compliments yours... I made plastic out of a potato http://www.instructables.com/id/EJ2F2IYF45H8L61/?ALLSTEPS
dude9100 says: Jun 11, 2007. 2:03 PM
this is a helpful article and i thank you for it. i was just wondering if the other parts of milk also contained casein. and if they do, do they have a higher or lower concentration of it?
macingtosh says: Jun 11, 2007. 10:53 AM
can you use this for conterfiting stuff
Coffeebot (author) says: Jun 11, 2007. 11:16 AM
...what?

I mean...what?

No. Seriously?
mexx.admin says: Jun 4, 2007. 9:01 PM
Is this plastic water proof? is it real plastic? this sounds like a really cool project, (I haven't tried it yet)and there have been a few times I'ver needed some plastic. thanks for this instructable. I'm definately going to try it out.
Coffeebot (author) says: Jun 4, 2007. 7:09 PM
I added a few points to step 5, regarding the final molding. The most important is that the plastic will curl if you remove it from its mold before its dry -- assuming you're making a flat piece.
lou_adele says: Jun 1, 2007. 12:43 AM
Interesting to see this used in a dried form as a plastic. This isn't cheese, as you mentioned, but it is eaten A LOT in India and other countries in the Indian sub-continent. It's called Paneer, and if you refridgerate it once you have strained the whey out you get a nice tofu-like consistency, which you can then chop up and throw into curries. It's delicious! Note- you can also use lemon or orange juice instead of the vinegar to make it separate- it's the acid I guess. Also, I always strain through a cloth or clean tea-towel (clean if you're eating it- it doesn't matter if you're using it for modelling) to catch all the small clumps- too much goes down the sink otherwise, and you know that a lot of milk really only makes a relatively small amount of curds. Nice use of another household product though! Well done.
Coffeebot (author) says: Jun 1, 2007. 12:47 AM
Cheese cloth! So simple, so perfect -- how did I miss that? Great tip, lou!
lou_adele says: Jun 1, 2007. 1:19 AM
Yeah, the good thing about using the cloth is that you can put the clumps in the middle of the cloth and gather the sides of the cloth up around it (like an upside-down mushroom with the paneer/clumps as the mushroom head and the rest of the cloth as the stalk), then twist the extra cloth to squeeze out the excess liquid. I don't know how much liquid you want to get rid of for this purpose, but for eating you want to get it all out, and this helps. And, hey, if you have left-overs after you have modeled your piece- stick it in the fridge for a day and then eat it in curry. Two birds with one stone!
pyrotechnicallyprofessional says: May 30, 2007. 6:52 AM
Know that was definately knob cheese!!! oh yes! that was wrong!
blodefood says: May 23, 2007. 7:02 PM
Interesting that Coffeebot puts the pot directly on the stove. You can lessen the burning aspect of heating the milk by using a bain marie (double boiler). This would prevent some accident hazards as well as maintaining reusibility of the pot. Coffeebot doesn't mention exact temperatures and that foam on the top is the indicator to add the vinegar so this should work. BUT patience is a virtue in letting the milk get there slowly. Has anyone made any direct use of this, say creating a mould for an odd-shaped part for a contraption of some use or other? What were your successes?
Coffeebot (author) says: May 24, 2007. 9:08 AM
You brought up some good points, blode. I certainly hadn't thought of the bain marie; you boil water in the bottom pot, put the other atop that, correct? As for the temperature, I don't have exact numbers, but for my years working in a coffee shop (surprised?), I recall that milk begins foaming at about 150 degrees or so. I also haven't had a chance to refine the process, such as slowly bringing the milk to a low boil. I'm not entirely sure that it would effect the process all that much, though.
binnie says: May 9, 2007. 5:06 AM
the reason it has a consistncy of soggy cheese before it drys is IT IS CHEESE!
Coffeebot (author) says: May 9, 2007. 9:28 AM
Uhm. Actually it's not cheese. It's casein, which is a precipitate created when mixing milk with certain acids (in this case, vinegar). If you want to turn this into cheese, you need to add rennet or some similar bacteria to finish the process. Most cheese, though, is not made with vinegar.
graphak says: May 1, 2007. 3:10 AM
does this method work with powdered milk? or does it have to be the processed and chemically tainted store-bought milk? As for Royalestel, your daughter may be allergic to just the chemicals used in commercially processed milk. Try whole natrual organic milk. Im convinced that the soy bean is the miracle bean, its used for so many diverse things.
Coffeebot (author) says: May 1, 2007. 5:19 PM
Hehe...care to share your real feelings on store-bought milk, graphak? ;)

I agree, though...it is atrocious; but it's what we can afford, currently.

As for the powdered milk, I haven't got a clue. As I've said for others asking about various kinds of milk: Try it, and let us know!
royalestel says: May 1, 2007. 9:49 AM
Oh, uh, I think that's more expensive than soy milk where I live, so I'm going to have to stick to the soy. But good thinking. I;d try that if it were cheaper.
CatMan says: Apr 29, 2007. 5:13 PM
so let me get this straight, if i need a small amount of molding plastic for a project, can i take cottage cheese, perhaps add some vinegar to it ( to turn the extra milk added to the cheese into curdles) and make casein-plastic? anyone tried this? anyone melt this plastic? test its waterproof?
Coffeebot (author) says: Apr 29, 2007. 9:33 PM
I don't know if it'll work with cottage cheese or not, as it's a processed milk product. Try it and let us know! I tried melting it with a cigarette lighter, and it just crackled and burned but the non-burnt area was pliable...so I think you can melt it. I just don't have anything at this current juncture that I could sacrifice to the cause of melting plastic. As for it's waterproof-ness, I'm fairly certain that water won't affect it. However, I'm not convinced that being submerged in water for lengths of time would be all that great for it.
HamO says: Apr 29, 2007. 6:22 PM
Very nice instructable, well done. Can't wait to try it.
Kiteman says: Apr 29, 2007. 5:45 AM
I've played with this stuff - smelly but fun. Somebody asked is it "normal plastic". It is used commercially (shirt buttons are/were made of casein). I would use it in moulds - either make your own or use small shaped moulds for making chocolates - and press it in with a flower press or a G-clamp.
Robyntheslug says: Apr 29, 2007. 3:47 AM
great first instructable! And the plastic is kinda gross, but fascinating!
chooseausername says: Apr 28, 2007. 7:22 PM
You'll get better result with formaldehyde instead of vinegar. What you get is called "Galalith". It was used in the beginning of the 20th century to make various items ... Though, with vinegar, what you'll get is more cheeze than plastic ;-)
austin says: Apr 28, 2007. 9:30 PM
with vinegar you can still get a hard plastic, and besides formaldehyde isn't something thats real fun to use, its pretty toxic and is also not nearly as available as vinegar. Formaldehyde smells much worse than vinegar as well.
teaaddict314 says: Apr 28, 2007. 10:45 PM
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ARVash says: Apr 29, 2007. 12:04 AM
lol; you're worried about cancer when the immediate danger is, it's toxic! Just about everything is a carcinogen in the state of california nowdays anyways
Jafafa Hots says: Apr 29, 2007. 2:09 AM
That's why I mo ved out of state. :P
Shark500 says: Apr 29, 2007. 12:00 AM
good instructable. i'm confused.. how is it not cheese?
jugglingmaniac says: Apr 28, 2007. 10:02 PM
Im just asking. But can u really eat this stuff? If you can then ill make alot.
Trans_Am says: Apr 28, 2007. 8:47 PM
It's far different than normal plastic, but similar in results. Plastic uses petroleum, casein (this stuff) doesn't. Question through, does this stuff melt like regular plastic?
Coffeebot (author) says: Apr 28, 2007. 9:16 PM
Good question. I haven't tried. By the feel of it though, I would guess that it does. I'll try melting some, as well as posting a picture of some fully cured plastic (as was requested previously) later tonight.
skids927 says: Apr 28, 2007. 8:44 PM
won't it spoil?
Coffeebot (author) says: Apr 28, 2007. 9:14 PM
Nope! While it's curing, it has an interesting smell, but only if you get it up near your face. Part of what's making the smell is the excess vinegar and milk by-product evaporating. It will have a slightly greasy feel during this time, too. Best to just leave it be for a few days. Soap and water washes the smell on your fingers (or anything else) right off.
knexer1 says: Apr 28, 2007. 6:19 PM
That is very cool, and a great instructable, but is the plastic the same as normal plastic or what?
Coffeebot (author) says: Apr 28, 2007. 8:44 PM
Thanks :) Unfortunately, it's not as resilient as normal plastic, but, it's very handy if you need a small amount to, say, fill in a chipped corner, or for pieces that are going to be more decorative than anything else -- like my casemod. I haven't made anything "thick" with this stuff yet...just some thin sheets for my casemod. Half of them were too thin, and therefore way too brittle to use. Even the brittle ones showed promise for thicker slabs.
knexer1 says: Apr 28, 2007. 8:33 PM
I already made some of that stuff and I am waiting for it to cure.
Coffeebot (author) says: Apr 28, 2007. 9:43 PM
Awesome! Be sure to let us know how it turns out. Making anything in particular, or just a blob to see what it's like?
knexer1 says: Apr 29, 2007. 9:17 PM
I made ammo for a gun prototype (I may make an instructable later on).
Coffeebot (author) says: Apr 29, 2007. 10:02 PM
You might want to be careful with this stuff if you're using it as a projectile. It's nowhere near as resilient as "regular" plastics. The quarter-inch chunk I made in my first batch snapped in two with a decent amount of force. It's strong enough to function as a solid object, and can handle light stresses (you can drop it, etc.), but if it doesn't shatter when it's fired from a gun it will certainly shatter on impact. If you're using gas/air to propel it, it'll probably handle the pressure just fine.
knexer1 says: Apr 30, 2007. 6:12 AM
I want it to shatter on impact, it'll look cool, plus I am using compressed air to fire it, so I think it will work. The plastic is almost dry, I should be able to test it tomorrow.
TrinityMacPhisto says: Apr 28, 2007. 6:54 PM
Doesn't this thing work as glue as well? Some classmates of mine made milk glue for a project about biology in the kitchen once, and it's pretty much like this Can we have a picture of the dry thing? *curious*
Coffeebot (author) says: Apr 28, 2007. 8:41 PM
Actually, yes. There are a few extra steps after removing the casein from the liquid. It involves a little more vinegar, baking soda, and (I think) sugar. Don't quote me on that. Maybe that will be my next Instructable ;)
Crash2108 says: Apr 28, 2007. 8:03 PM
Isn't this just dried cottage cheese?
Coffeebot (author) says: Apr 28, 2007. 8:40 PM
The last picture is the undried/cured plastic, so, yeah, it's like a dry cottage cheese. The final product though, is rigid and not at all squishy
Sgt.Waffles says: Apr 28, 2007. 7:32 PM
Hmm, thats kinda cool. I could usee that! +
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