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Step 4: Finishing touches

Over time, the bricks will crack. As long as they are fastened securely and don't come apart, there is no effect on the forge's performance. I used two of the thinner bricks on top and bottom to improve the insulation. Use STEEL wire to fasten them together. Use 8 or so ties across the width, and at least two across the length. If desired, add a handle.

The last steps are optional, but recommend for safety. Make a simple stand to keep the torch upright. This reduces the fire hazard if you happen to bump the torch out of position during usage. Next, cover the rubber propane hose with a piece of pipe or conduit so that if hot material flies from the forge and lands on the hose, it will not burn your shop down.
man normaly i do it old style (fire and wood) but will it heat the metal faster?
It does heat faster with less fuel, but it has no carbon content in the gas, so the wood/coal/coke would be ideal, a slow heat is less stress on the metal, and improves the form, while solid fuel will increase the carbon content over time. Also slow cooling in coal/coke powder will harden and increase the carbon content.
I honestly don't know if it will heat faster. The reason I use gas is because I live in a dense residential area, and a gas forge reduces the fire hazard.
are you pumping in air ( atmosphere air) into the furnace? I would make it hotter.
a blowtorch does that for you. Otherwise it would be a normal flame...
(thought I posted this but I guess not...hopefully this doesn't become a dupe)<br>No that's wrong. If you turn down the gas flow of a blowtorch it will be a normal flame. All a blowtorch does is allow more air into the mix, it doesn't actually pump it in which makes a hell of a difference. The difference is akin to a blowtorch versus a cutting torch.
Would adding a forced air intake to the back be a good idea?<br>
The blowtorch is a form of forced air intake. It works similar to an airbrush. Instead of pressurized air it's pressurized gas, and instead of paint it siphons in air.
Depending on what you mean by &quot;to the back&quot;, yes, it could be a very good idea or at least just an alright idea. To clarify, if you're talking about injecting air on the back side of the burner, before combustion takes place, then yes it's a good idea. If you mean pumping it into the back side of the forge itself...maaaybe, there's a lot of factors there.
That is what I meant, but when i turn down the gas flow, unless I turn it down almost all of the way to off, it stays a non-normal flame
No, only the torch is supplying fuel to the forge. Thank you for your comment!
If you only need to use one of the smaller bottles and not a 20# bottle, MAPP gas burns much hotter than propane and will heat your project steel much faster.
<p>Wrong</p><p>MAPP = 2010 (c) </p><p>Propane = 2392</p>
However, MAPP, with the proper setup, will burn hotter, esp. if you have an oxygen feed.
<p>Not to be rude but, you are wrong. Mapp gas burns much hotter than propane. Not sure where you are getting your information but, you should look elsewhere.</p>
<p>where do you get 2010? it burns at 2925.</p>
<p>Heating up your project quickly isn't the only thing to think about. If you are trying to heat treat metal, certain temperature ranges are a target, and in a little home built furnace, you likely can't properly measure the temperature of your item. You can select a gas that cannot over heat the item by selecting a gas that doesn't burn hotter than you want. (just a thought....speed isn't everything in a furnace)</p>
You are right about the heat difference, but a bottle that size will only burn for several hours before it is empty. I haven't needed to replace my 20 lb tank in months.
<p>Great ible! I've been looking to make a forge and something better than a coffee can forge. This might be up my alley.</p>
Nothing wrong with the ol' coffee can. I repurposed mine for a lead smelter.
I'm using the same torch and can only get to a red heat instead of the almost yellow I want any good tips to bring the heat up
good beginner forge for cheap. I have made several decorative iron bits for jewelry thus far.
<p>Cool! I will have to build this!</p>
Very interesting instructable. I see a pic where you are using a common gas tank ? <br>I want to do a furnace using normal butane gas, the same one we use in kitchen or boilers, is it possible ? I&acute;m very new to this but almost got most of materials. <br>I&acute;m living in mexico and around here is not that easy to find a place where I can use charcoal to melt metal, because people ( and police ) dont like to see people burning things.... <br>Propane ( like benzomatic ) is very expensive here, and I must find a cheaper way of melt. <br>So my option would be use common gas, is this possible or I&acute;m missing something ? <br> <br>Btw, your furnace is a nice inspiration to me. <br> <br>Thankyou for share it.
I got my bricks from a website called &quot;Shefield Pottery&quot;
Hi, I am just in the process of making one of these. I love the idea. To make it easier, as I'm not used to chiselling stone, I've taped a masonry bit, and drilled pilot holes down the centre of the cavity to the depth I need. This helps me get the right depth all the way down. Also I've drilled loads of smaller holes to give a 'swiss cheese' effect, to make the chiselling easier. This way the brick just flies out, and as these bricks can be very fragile, lessens the amount of force needed each blow of the hammer. Hope this is helpful, and I'm not doing anything stupid!
You can buy these bricks on Ebay, both sizes. Just type in fire bricks
Nice technical writing, especially using sound as a cue, ie., &quot;most hollow sounding note.&quot; We former tech writers appreciate such details!
Thank you.
Love the instructable have seen this design before and used one similar and it works great for small stuff.. For anyone attempting this or working metal for the first time please consider first finding your local abana (www.abana.org) chapter.. The chapters are full of blacksmiths and other hobby metal workers who are an amazing wealth of information. i played at garage forge for over a year and ended with a lot of mashed metal (art??) then i met up with my local Michigan chapter was able to head over to a nearby smith and practice with a real setup to get the feel of it. They also helped in maximising my homebuilt forge (didn't get hot enough) and was able to buy a real anvil for dirt cheap (never again harbor freight... never again).. Definitely took a few years off of the learning curve.. now i make knives and other things not just art..
Excellent advice, thank you.
I'm guessing the eyes were an afterthought, and the original intention was a different internet meme :P<br>
lol!
I love the simplicity and flexablity of your design. A forge like that could be assembled in any shape to match a project.It could even have multiple torches for a larger work. I made my propane &quot;carb&quot; on my forge by welding the end shut on a piece of 1/4 &quot; pipe , drilling it with a small #70 bit, and then spinning the pipe while grinding it to gently taper it for improving the venturi<br>effect. Tthe propane pipe slides into a fluted air horn and by sliding it in and out I can change the air fuel mix.
That is an impressive setup!
Thanks, I am trying to make it work with the piazo electric push button start but I need some tungsten rods first. . I hope that if I put the tungsten rods in the flame path they will help keep the flame going on cold start ups . Once the forge is a liitle hot it stays lit real good but ignition can be tricky till then.
Could you give me some details on the inside of the forge? Are you using kaowool? refractory cement/clay? Im gathering materials to build a new forge with a Ron Reil style burner and any advice would be helpful.
I used the kaowool and the ceramic liquid and topcoat. It was pricey but seems to work good. I got it at seattle pottery supply. Your local pottery supply may also carry it.
Fire brick...?? I don't see what kind.. Looks like hard in photos,and the way you are cutting it..<br><br> I would use the hi-temp 2500℉ soft fire brick, would be better and a lot easy to cut, <br>also a lot better in holding your temp, less heat loss and comes up to temp faster than hard brick.<br><br>Nice little forge thou<br><br>RE stuff on the hose scale not to bad.. but a red hot bar is not good, first hand experience.<br><br>LPG is heaver that air so be careful
It is hard fire brick. I know it isn't ideal, but it is dirt cheap and was able to find it locally. <br><br>Thanks for the advice!
Using a drill with a level bubble on it can give you a straight hole almost as good as a drill press.
The stuff that lands on the hose is fine, it all bounces off. The stuff you have to worry about is what hits the floor, it can bounce onto the hose :-D<br><br>Great instructable, thanks!
HAHA funny how the fire extinguisher signs are sold nearby :)<br>
Could this be modified to use charcoal instead? I live in a rural area.<br>Thanks
I would suggest a design like<a href="http://www.instructables.com/id/How-To-Make-A-Bladesmiths-Forge/"> this</a> for charcoal.<br>
Thanks!
I have been finding parts for a project I'm working on, and needed a burner for. I too found that one at Home Depot, but couldn't bring myself to spend that much. I was on Harbor Freight's site last night and saw one that takes camping propane tanks (I figure they could be hacked to fit a large propane tank) for $20 regular price. Just a thought!<br><br>EDIT: After I typed that I double checked the price and saw they have the same type as the one you listed, but an off-brand, for $25 regular price. Hope that helps at least someone!<br>
Torch hacking is needed if you can't find a torch that will hook to a bulk tank. If you venture into the camping area of most big box stores or a decent camping/outdoors place you should find hoses used to connect most camping equipment that uses small bottles to bulk tanks. You may need an adapter for the bottle to hose, or some hoses come with a regulator in them.
For larger work, the big brother to this one can be made using a &quot;weed&quot; or &quot;brush&quot; burning torch. BE CAREFUL with this as it creates a whole lot more heat in way less time than you would think!! I have used one and it really works awsome. The only drawback is it also consumes a whole lot more fuel. Also on the plus side is that it is super eaasy to adjust the fire box's dimensions to add another burner or to reconfigure it for use as a blast furnace for foundry work. Remember at all times to ensure that you have a contingency plan in place in case of an emergency!

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