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How to Build the Perfect Zombie Survival Kit...

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So you want to learn how to build an excellent zombie survival kit, and honestly your best bet would be to read zombie survival guide by max brooks. However if you lack time, funds or are just lazy I'll cut to the chase and give you a quick, light and excellent kit to survival the undead nightmare...
 
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Step 1: What you need...

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Here's what your Kit should have...
- Rifle,Shotgun or Assault Rifle. I'd prefer a good reliable sks carbine. semi auto, 7.62x39 mm ammo (same as the ak) and a five round clip. Good all around package...and it's a relatively cheap to get.

- 300-600 rounds of ammo. Because you never know.

- Good comfy backpack. You'll need a lot of storage for you gear.

- Sleeping bag. You will have to sleep sooner or later.

- Ear plugs. To drown out the moaning of the undead.

- Red glow sticks. Good light source.

- Hachet or machete. Both make great close quarters weapons and both are excellent survival tools.

- Folding shovel. Another good close quarters weapon... also good for digging latrines.

- Local map. Preferably a state or provincial map with roads/backroads and bodies of water.

- Compass. To work with your map and help you navigate.

- Self powered flashlight and radio. You need to see and keep up with current events.

- Rope. You'll need a lot, say a few hundred feet. And make sure it's of good quality.

- 8' x 10' tarp. Makes a good, quick tent.

- First Aid Kit. Make sure its not a cheap one, and put it in a waterproof bag that gause won't do any good wet.

- 12 big thick garbage bags. Good for everything from waterproofing your pack to making a poncho, to making a shower.

- 2 Rolls Paper towels. Good for toilet paper and snot rags.

- 2 or 3 sets of spare clothing. Obvious reasons...

- Dehydrated/Non perishable Food. MREs, Ramen noodles, canned food, granola, beef jerky it's all good.

- 2 Litres of Clean Drinking water and a means of getting more. Meaning either have a filter kit, or purification tablets or a stove to boil water.

- Deck of Cards and a novel. You will get bored.

- 2 pocket knives. The uses are endless.

- Multitool. again they can do anything from opening cans to cutting wire.

- Credit Card. Who knows when you'll need plastic...and it can jimmy locks.

- 4 Burlap sacks. If you'd like to make a quick foxhole/barricade.

- Waterproof matches/ flint and steel. You'll need fire.
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Zombies aren't the main problem

There slow weak and not the smartest... If you find a structure with a good well, farm/animals and Tools you should be set against zombies

Bandits are the real problem. If the zombies were gone, our economy would be jacked up.

Zombies can end if there cut off, but people wont if they reproduce.

tincanz3 years ago
How about no gun, but a recurve bow and 15 arrows? Ditch shovel, add mountain bike with some patches, and head for the mountains.

Optional: plenty of carrot, bean, corn, spinach, tomato seeds, provided that you live somewhere warm.
Gcamper tincanz3 years ago
Aiming a bow is so much harder than aiming a gun. And just try to get a headshot with one. Ammo is heavier, it is less accurate, less powerful, has a shorter range, it wears out your arm...
Use a gun
Arms don't "wear out". Guns do. Arms don't jam. Guns do. Arms don't need firing pins. Guns do. Arms don't need stripping and cleaning. Guns do.

When you very first start your arm will get sore. But once your muscles build up, no more soreness, just deadliness.

Arms do wear out, arms can jam, & Arms do need cleaning.

Great XD

tincanz Gcamper3 years ago
All true, but do bullets grow on trees? Arrows do. So do bows. Bows are also quieter and lighter than most guns. When zombies come, society will basically be starting over. That means that anything you use you should know how to synthesize. If you can make gunpowder from its basic constituents, power to you. That sure is a lot of effort for each shot, including bullet creation. Considering the rarity of the required materials, an arrow is probably faster to make. You also get many shots per arrow.

Headshots, while hard to achieve with a bow, are doable. I have an average of 4:7 human brain shots (between nose and top of head, full head width) at 20m. My bow shoots about 250 fps with 30 inch arrows for the first 20m. One of those arrows weighs about 300 grains, which makes their kinetic energy about 41 foot/pounds. According to ChaCha, around 33 ft/lbs are needed to crack the human skull (where I know not). That means that a pointed arrow would easily have enough power to make it into the brain. Lastly, an archer's arm doesn't get very tired. Mostly its the pulling fingers, but with a glove that pain is minimal.
Gcamper tincanz3 years ago
Also true... I think that a crossbow is a decent compromise. They use arrows now, not bolts. They are more accurate and have a longer range than a bow.

However, one can EASILY carry 1000 rounds for a carbine. It is not that heavy to carry or hard to pack. It will take up maybe as much space as a quiver, but probably less. Also, if you have a gun, the rate of fire is greatly increased, and you can kill 30 zombies before reloading. If you are good and have trained with this gun, you could probably get about 30 kills in a minute or two.

All in all, i believe a bow is crossbow is good defensively, but the carbine is so much better if you are on the run.
tincanz Gcamper3 years ago
Ok, I agree, but I will stick t the bow for the sustainability issue.
Thrasym tincanz2 years ago
You bow and crossbow people make me chuckle. You think your amazing arm strength you built up with all your conditioning is going to hold up when you're starving and cold and dehydrated? You think shooting an arrow through a stationary target is the same as hitting a moving, walking, running, trying to eat you zombie? You think your awesome Legolas skills are going to hold up while you're crapping your pants out of fear? Bows and crossbows are not silent, the twang of the bow string can be pretty loud.

Get a gun or become a zombies snack. Sure, ammo isn't something you can make on your own with a knife in the woods, but, you can also carry enough that you live long enough to find more. There's no risking infection reclaiming spent arrows covered in zombie brains. Sure, hitting a moving target while malnourished, scared out of your mind and starving is more difficult, even with a gun, but that's why a clip holds so many bullets, retries are expected. Also, double taps, if you learned anything from Zombieland...why they never use silencers in movies, I'll never understand, they may not make firearms silent but they sure reduce the sound, at least the whole town doesn't head your way. But I digress...
tincanz Thrasym2 years ago
I don't understand where you think you will be able to "find" ammunition. All structures will have been ransacked in the first few months, and after decades such things as we now call bullets will no longer exist. It is feasible to make bullets and powder, but materials are scarce and procedure is difficult. Making bullets fit for modern firearms is very difficult; it is possible that no one alive will have the know-how and access to the materials. The best one can hope for after decades and centuries is flintlock or matchlock guns, and loose black powder with simple rounds.

Anyway, gun strategy cannot really be compared to bow strategy because a big part of bow strategy is that you don't actually let zombies locate you in the first place. Then none of that fear or inaccuracy will crop up.

(there are materials that can be added to a bowstring to take the vibrational energy and disperse it, further reducing the "twang" while only reducing the arrow velocity a tiny amount i.e. fine down)

Making arrows would be a pain, besides you wil need someone for the wings and the tip

Do wings and arrow tips grow on trees? Nope

Gcamper tincanz2 years ago
Both of you have brought up very good points.
Guns do run out of ammo, and it wont last forever. Making firearms is a lost art, and there is no way that you will learn to make ammo for modern guns. However, with a good carbine or accurate rifle, you can take out multiple zombie in the time it takes for someone to take out one with a bow. Rifles are much more accurate and way more powerful than bows. If a zombie grabs you, you cannot kill it with a bow. You can, however, kill it with a pistol.
Bows and crossbows have their downsides and benefits too. They are slow, not nearly as accurate as rifles, and they take a lot of arm strength to use. A good bow with a forty or fifty pound pull takes a lot out of people, especially when you haven't eaten much. Whereas you can break a zombie's skull with the butt of a gun at close quarters, you can't do that with a bow. I you have ever tried to make a bow and arrows, you will find that it isn't easy. The bow needs to have a certain amount of curve, it needs to be flexible while snapping back tot shape quickly. The arrows need to be perfectly straight if you want them to fly in the general direction that you are pointing. Making arrowheads is very hard, while fire hardened wood tips might not be able to punch through a skull. Skulls are really hard, and you wont be able to get a clean shot through the eye. However, crossbows are much more accurate than bows, and if you can make arrows you have almost infinite ammo.
Bow and gun strategies are really not that different. The point is to survive. Just because someone uses a bow doesn't mean that they have infinite wisdom and therefore will not get eaten. You cannot assume that you will find food, or water, or shelter, or not encounter a horde of fifty zombies. In either situation, you need to get the hell out of there.
In the long run, having and using a crossbow is probably better. However, when trying to escape or kill a lot of zombies quickly, a gun is so much better.
tincanz Gcamper2 years ago
Well said.
I dont think youll find a hot enough working furnace to melt ore, and you cant make everytying
Everything*

Charcoal fire with bellows in a clay/earth bloomery can melt the slag but not the iron; it's a distillation process by which the slag trickles out and the iron stays. It is still plenty hot to soften the iron, though.

the Japanese can make steel, both high carbon and low carbon using charcoal and bellows in a clay/earth bloomery. The Romans and Vikings did as much aswell.

Thrasym tincanz2 years ago
"I don't understand where you think you will be able to "find" ammunition. All structures will have been ransacked in the first few months, and after decades such things as we now call bullets will no longer exist."

Where do you live? Almost every country has an immense stockpile of munitions. If zombies wipe out the human race in short order (like in just about every zombie story ever written) then there will not be that many people left to loot and plunder. Leaving years and decades worth of bad arse bullets to fuel my gun toting rage, bringing the hurt to the zombie hordes. If the military is still around you'll be hiding in the army base with them defending you, if they're not around, you're free to loot. It really depends how the whole infection goes down, but most versions of the mythology have the human race wiped out rather quickly. Aside from that, your biggest threat in dire times is not the zombies or the economy or whatever is causing the hardship, your biggest threat is other humans in the same dire straits as yourself. And well, if you take a bow to a gun fight...see 'The Untouchables" to find out how that will end up. Keeping in mind, it's way easier for a guy with a gun to avoid being seen due to the increased range and lethality. Having a gun doesn't mean you can't hide from zombies...they have silencers too.

It's actually really hard to get an arrow through a skull, much like a .22 cal, glances off the side will happen most often. There's really only a small area in the center skull (from whichever angle you fire from) that will have the force of the shot focused THROUGH the skull, it's like a 2" circle shooting straight from the front or back, maybe 3" from the sides. If you go lower it's under the brain, if you hit the left or right sides, or the top, the shot will most likely be deflected. Most people can't make that shot at any distance...there might be a handful of people on the planet that could do it with a bow or a xbow, even if they used a nice compound bow, I'd doubt there's even a handful who could do it reliably to a moving target.

At any rate, if you make it past the "first few months" and especially "decades" you're pretty much set. I mean you can't get that far without some skills and resources. Also, bows don't last forever. Especially bow strings. They wear out, string wear out fast. Replacements may or may not be easy to come by, depends on how things play out, but after "decades" you're out of luck too. Bullets and twinkies DO have a shelf life, so, we're all going to have to be self sustaining after a while.
tincanz Thrasym2 years ago
We seem to be of accord that after some time "we're all going to have to be self sustaining." Shouldn't it follow, then, because bows will definitely be effective after the zombie threat is over, that people should preserve and develop further techniques involved in their creation and use? Bows are much easier to make than guns, so after zombies they will likely be the preferred choice. you may be right that having guns during zombies is a good idea. Then again, with only a bow, I will likely see only very few zombies, whereas with a gun, even suppressed, you will likely encounter quite a few. In the case of a bow being ineffective against a few zombies, I can resort to melee weapons without having very many to kill. A gun user will not have to resort to melee as long as his equipments stay in order, but he will have more zombies to face due to the increased noise generated.
I'm a bow fan, but TBH guns do have silencers and if you can't find one you can make them out of pretty simple stuff
danielp8 Gcamper8 months ago

how about a crossbow

JohnK11 danielp85 months ago

crossbows are just as heavy as guns and need as much if not more maintenance. melee is really the way to go.

guns are loud they will bring you more zombies than you can handle unless you have a suppresser witch are illeagle in most state then go ahead and use a gun

Gcamper Gcamper3 years ago
sorry, arrows are heavier
JohnE5 tincanz4 months ago

I totally agree, bringing my Jaguar Takedown with plenty of arrows and hopefully a Katana too for backup.

YES! KATANAS! SOMEONE FINALLY SAID IT

a bows ok... but its slow and difficult to use unless your jesus...
A bow works great in a rural/ forest environment, and an experienced archer can get a brain-shot from 15m semi-reliably. Also arrows can be retrieved and can be created with much more ease than bullets. If a person has to go for the rest of their life with an amount of bullets, they will be wishing they could make gunpowder and cast bullets as easily as arrows. Plus, a bow itself is much easier to make than a gun.
the problem is that not everyone can shoot a bow.
I'm 12 and I've been practising with a beginner bow for about 2 months and I can shoot pretty accurately now, and not everyone can shoot a gun I probably wouldn't be able to with the recoil.

You're right, not everyone can handle the recoil of a gun, but some of us can. I was 13 when I started learning how to shoot, I've never missed, and I handle the recoil better than my father and brothers-I'm a girl.

Same here girl power
NickW3 amcmorris110 months ago

tbh gun recoil isnt too bad, especially with an SA-80/L98A2 which I have used quite a few times now, recoil is light, it is pretty accurate and easy too use

yeah, but that can be fixed easily, through practice now or practice when zombies come.
what about if there is more than one zombie at 15m
Climb a tree, a boulder, a tall car, a lamppost, or a building. If you are stable and out of their reach, you are golden. Just shoot them as they stand around the base of the object you climbed. If you run out of arrows, you can jump down, run about to get the living ones to chase you, then go around them and retrieve a few arrows from the dead ones. In a rural environment there are always plenty of trees, in a city plenty of buildings, telephone poles, et cetera. You can repeat the arrow-retrieval process as long as necessary, provided that the swarm's radius is not too large. In that case, either you were not discrete enough, or you took too long in killing your pursuers, or you did not realize when the swarm was nearing dangerous proportions and leave. In those cases it is best to have a partner or group. Otherwise, you had better jump far and run fast. You could also try to lure some away from you to reduce the width of the swarm to a jumpable amount.
hahahaha your funny aigh, have fun being by yourself because hopefully no one in their right minds would attempt a stunt like that, if you are around zombies you make as little noise as possible dont run around trying to kill them, you can be perfectly quite and attract the one zombie you want but as soon as that zombie makes an abnormal sound or seems a tad eager... "the herd follows" just run in and out attracting as little as you can and just hide at the top of a hill in a tree.
Of course!
I don't mean to do that shooting, running stuff as a first resort. Only if I am already spotted and an excessive group is moving in, and there is nowhere to run.
Gcamper tincanz3 years ago
use a crossbow and now a bow
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