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How to Build the Ultimate Survival Shotgun

Step 2More Ammo + Signaling Flares

More Ammo + Signaling Flares
In addition to hunting, a shotgun is an excellent self defense weapon. It’s easy to imagine the need for a self-defense weapon in an urban or wilderness survival scenario – defending you or your family from man or animal. Not only is a pump action shotgun a proven deterrent, but it also has some serious knock down power. Because of these 2 considerations (hunting & self defense) I wanted to carry as much ammo on the gun as I could. I filled the magazine and the chamber which holds 7 + 1. I also added a side saddle shell holder and a screw on stock mount shell holder which together extends my total capacity to 19 rounds of ammunition. Not bad at all.

You are probably wondering what the short orange rounds are. These are specialty Signaling Flare rounds designed for 12 gauge shotguns. These flares fire over 300 feet and can be seen for miles. They are the perfect signaling solution to a shotgun survival kit. Not only are these EXCELLENT rescue signals but they can also be fired into a prepared fire pit to start a fire. In survival, multi-use products are key.
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35 comments
Apr 23, 2012. 9:03 PMjessopher says:
My 2 cents on the matches and firesteel:
a) matches are not very reliable, take bic lighters
b) take firesteel if you want, but bic lighters can do the same thing.

situations when using the flare makes sense:
a) you are not a survivalist worth your survival salt/salary (probably not the guy who takes flares with him hunting, but maybe)
b) your lighters and or firesteel get lost, or you use them up.

c) you are too weak or injured to continue trying to light it with a lighter. Or if you are actually cold and shaking and your hands aren't doing what you want them to (fear of impending doom, and being near hypothermic can turn the deftest hands to quivering sausages).

FYI just because it is a flare, doesnt mean you have to actually shoot it at your fire. You can just use the gunpowder and magnesium to aid you in making the fire with the bic lighters. Actually, the type of fire you are probably building in a survival situation would not stand up to the blast of a 12 gauge flare, so if you do shoot your fire, make sure its not a bunch of pine cones and cardboard. In a survival situation, sane people might actually make this mistake, so its not a joke.
Dec 19, 2011. 4:42 PMmrwalch says:
Beware of local hunting laws. In my state of MN, carrying 2 types of ammo in one gun (sabot slug and bird shot) is a big no-no and can result loss of hunting privileges or worse. Hate to be the square.
Jan 2, 2012. 7:57 PMjdbak says:
I'm not sure what some of these comments are based on. This is a survival tool. ie. outdoors personal protection-now lost. Not some face-painted militia yahoo or a poacher/hunter. So if the authorities show up to give you a ticket for two types of rounds in your shotgun, the happiness of being found may overwhelm the bummer of the "ticket". The official may even understand that your circumstances were alittle one-off the norm. Don't lose the plot.
Jan 5, 2012. 8:15 AMmrwalch says:
That's a fair criticism, however, encouraging people to enter the wood with a potentially illegal weapon is not something to take lightly.
Jan 5, 2012. 7:08 PMjdbak says:
True. As I understand it, the weapon isn't illegal , the loading of two types of ammo is. Would it be unreasonable to assume you carry the two or three types( 2-4 of each type required ) and load what you may require given your situation? Ie. if you were to get lost.
Jan 6, 2012. 7:31 AMmrwalch says:
That's what I do with my 870.
Jul 28, 2011. 9:35 AMhellstudios says:
Say, is the pistol grip really needed?

seems like it would just add extra weight.
Jul 28, 2011. 10:33 AMammonihah99 says:
The pistol grip adds extra storage space.
Oct 10, 2011. 7:15 AMjdkchem says:
The pistol grip is a matter of taste. I do not like pistol grips on rifles or shotguns as for me they're uncomfortable. As for extra storage space I can fit the same items in a pocket.
Jul 31, 2011. 2:29 PMnibbler125 says:
theres plenty of places to stash a few matches or even a lighter on youre shotgun no need to waiste a flare
Aug 1, 2011. 4:28 AMDamascene says:
Thank you! It seems a pretty obvious point to me...
Aug 1, 2011. 7:42 PMmysss says:
He HAS matches and a FIRESTEEL. There WOULD be need to USE a flare if in very wet, difficult conditions and in need of quick, no-nonsense fire. Why have something if you aren't going to use it in an emergency?
Jul 28, 2011. 7:03 AMDamascene says:
Surely in a survival situation you wouldn't waste a flare round to start a fire?
Jul 30, 2011. 8:04 AMjparsons1 says:
if you were freezing your butt off and you had nothing to use to start a fire would you use 1 of the 2 flares cuz if the flares can be seen from miles away you will only need one
Jul 28, 2011. 7:49 AMMarcos El Malo says:
It depends on the situation. Lost in the mountains during a blizzard? You might find that creating a fire for warmth is a higher priority than signaling, which would be difficult at best during a blizzard anyway. Also, if you're still alive when the weather clears there are other methods to signal rescuers.
Jul 28, 2011. 7:46 AMjdkchem says:
Why would starting a fire be a waste? There are plenty of reasons to start a fire over using a flare for signaling.
Jul 28, 2011. 8:10 AMDamascene says:
I'm not suggesting starting a fire is a waste, I'm suggesting that any survivalist worth his salt should be able to start one without firing a shotgun, even in a blizzard.
Oct 9, 2011. 6:07 PMbluelantern says:
wow only part of my response showed up,i agree with you 100 percent.
Oct 9, 2011. 6:05 PMbluelantern says:
Omg! You could talk forever with these people,I am sure they got your point at least I hope they did
Oct 10, 2011. 1:28 AMDamascene says:
Thanks man. I have to say I don't think they did get it. Sad to say it seems that most people who are "into guns" aren't that bright. I think they think it's their God given right to use a shotgun to light a fire, hammer in a tent peg, or open a bottle of beer, and anyone who suggests there might be a better, easier, less wasteful way must be a goddamn commie nancy-boy.
Oct 13, 2011. 9:42 AMsarge89or says:
Your response seems to violate the be nice comment policy. Hope they ban you soon. I question your IQ level and common sense. Just because you believe guns kill people and that people are not responsible for their actions are ludicrous. People kill people all the time with knives, clubs, and everyday items like cars and baseball bats. Lets put everyone in chains in a dungeon so they cannot kill each other. Lastly, have you ever been in a survival situation in a blizzard? You would be happy to have this means to start a fire.
Oct 13, 2011. 10:44 AMDamascene says:
I don't 'think' guns kill people. I know they kill people as that is what they are expressly designed for. And I'm not anti-gun either. I don't jave one myself because i don't need one but i don't mind if other sensible, cautious people jave them. And after all, they are one of the best ways of killing people or animals and they are also enjoyable sporting items. What they are not is a useful, efficient fire starting tool.
Oct 13, 2011. 12:39 PMjdkchem says:
The flare starts the fire not the gun. If a gun is capable of starting a fire than it is in fact a useful fire starting tool. In fact a flare is fare more efficient at starting a fire than matches or "fire steel". You would have to have experience with flares that you obviously do not.
In order to be rescued you need to survive therefore you need a fire, water and shelter. Once you have those you have a wealth of methods for signaling available without ever being in need of a flare.

I question your claim to 2 college degrees. Clearly you cannot read. Nobody here said that the most efficient way to start a fire was with a gun. That is your anti-gun fantasy talking. In fact nobody even suggested starting a fire with a gun.

When you say "Sad to say it seems that most people who are "into guns" aren't that bright." and "i don't mind if other sensible, cautious people jave them." it shows you for exactly what you are. The fact of the matter is that I have infinitely more firearms training than you will ever have.

So far you've manged to show that you know nothing about survival, firearms, flares, or grenades. Yet you have managed to call others stupid and project your own ignorant beliefs and fantasies on to others.
Oct 14, 2011. 12:28 AMDamascene says:
Oh give over will you. If the apocalypse comes let's pick this up where we left off. In the meantime it really doesn't matter. Go take a long walk, shoot a squirrel, make love to your wife if you're married. Me, I'm turning off email notifications. Adieu Jdkchem, chemist, marine, renaissance man. It's been real.
Oct 10, 2011. 7:29 AMjdkchem says:
Before you make the mistake of another demonstration of ignorance. The Marine Corps does these things called mountain warfare and cold weather training. You can say whatever you want about being so salty you can light a match under water but I can tell you from experience that getting a fire lit in extreme cold is no easy task, and that is having other people there to help. You haven't the slightest clue what goes on in a survival situation because you've never been in one. That much is obvious from your continued stupidity.
Nothing is more wasteful than firing off a flare because you heard a plane.
Are you going to be a coward and flag my comment again?
Oct 10, 2011. 8:44 AMDamascene says:
I didn't flag your comment. I didn't even see it. I can only read the first part of it from your profile but I think you called me a goddam commie. I wouldn't have flagged that, I think it's pretty funny. I mean, really stupid obviously, but funny. Repost it so I can have a read of the whole thing will you?

So I gather you were/are in the marine corp jdchem. That's pretty interesting. Are you currently serving? And where did you sustain that head injury?
Oct 10, 2011. 6:49 PMjdkchem says:
There you go again. If you're going to lie at least be more creative. Are you really this pathetic? You have a knack for calling people stupid yet you're obsessed with demonstrating that you're as stupid as those you claim are stupid.
It is Marine Corps. I realize it is a difficult thing for you to grasp. I also understand that you're incapable of making the cut so you feel the need to try and belittle those who do when you cannot. So far you've demonstrated you cannot read, you know nothing about firearms, you know nothing about smoke grenades, you know nothing about survival and you've admitted that you lack the ability to keep a fire going for any useful amount of time. Given that you shouldn't be commenting on anyone's intelligence or level of brain damage. Fortunately for you affirmative action is alive and well.
Jul 30, 2011. 6:42 PMidlymr74 says:
if a survival instructor feels that he might have a use for it, I am sure that a guy like myself who does not get out into the wilderness every month, could certainly find it valuable
Jul 31, 2011. 1:36 AMDamascene says:
Yes, yes, obviously it's a useful thing to have. All I was saying is you only have 2 of them and you have 2 other methods of lighting a fire - matches and a steel. So save the flares for attracting attention. Unless you can't use the steel and you've used up all the matches and you're about to die of hypothermia, in which case by all means use the flare.

Also, if you're unable to start a fire with a fire steel and some fire starting material or steel wool, you might well find that you can't start one with a flare either. If you are a relatively inexperienced outdoorsman your best chance for survival is rescue.
Jul 28, 2011. 3:18 PMjdkchem says:
Regardless of your saltiness you may find yourself with a 12 ga. flare round and a shotgun and desperately in need of a fire. Are you really going to freeze to death just to prove your manly saltiness?
Aug 1, 2011. 8:43 AMDamascene says:
"Worth ones salt" - this means to be worth your salary. So, a survivalist worth his salt is one who is up to the mark, good enough to deserve the name. It doesn't mean they are actually salty. Or manly. Why do you assume I'm a man?
Aug 1, 2011. 9:37 AMjdkchem says:
Why do you assume that be able to light a match is any sort of indicator of your survival skills? You've yet to prove that you're anything other than salty.
Jul 29, 2011. 2:38 AMDamascene says:
Heheh, ok guys ok. As a last resort, why the hell not. Still, you should practice making fires GailC - it's a really good skill to have and there's no underestimating the morale boost you get from successfully starting a fire. But then again I'm guessing you guys get a pretty big boost from shooting your guns at the ground too.
Jul 31, 2011. 5:26 PMjdkchem says:
I guess you get a pretty big boost wasting time and demonstrating that arrogance trumps common sense.
Jul 31, 2011. 11:38 PMDamascene says:
At least I can light a match.
Aug 1, 2011. 7:10 AMjdkchem says:
Would you like a medal or a chest to pin it on?
Aug 1, 2011. 8:49 AMDamascene says:
So you can't light a match? That's cool, I understand. I'm sorry if I sounded boastful about my abilities. You should check this out, you'll find it real helpful I'm sure: http://www.wikihow.com/Light-a-Match
Aug 1, 2011. 9:43 AMjdkchem says:
There is nothing wrong with being boastful when you can back it up. If your only survival skill is lighting a match then you've got nothing to be boastful about.
Aug 2, 2011. 3:56 AMDamascene says:
Oh dear. You're a bit simple aren't you?
Aug 2, 2011. 6:56 AMjdkchem says:
Project much?
A flare is only useful if there is somebody to see it. A signal fire will do the same thing and last a whole lot longer. Only a simple minded fool would claim otherwise.
When you're soaking wet, shivering and it is 10 degrees below 0 you match lighting skills will be useless. No matter how much salt you think you have it ain't enough.
The whole reason you're in a survival situation is because something went very badly. Expecting things to not continue to go badly is not only simple but foolish as well.
So far you've made nothing but snide comments so you can prove to yourself how right you are. As for boasting about abilities you've done nothing but claim you can light a match which makes you what exactly? Unfortunately for you nature has no affirmative action program.

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