How to Forge a Throwing Knife





Introduction: How to Forge a Throwing Knife

I didn't win the race to post the first forged knife on the site, so i'll have to settle for second best. rocketscientist2105 posted "i want to try making a throwing knife (bascically a rod with the end flatend, no sharpening nesscicary). Can I use rebar instead of a car spring?" on jtobako's knife forging instructable, and i thought that i could post an instructable on that.
After repeated threats to my physical wellbeing and a bit of wheedling by rocketscientist2105, i was finally persuaded to put a link to his orangeboard.

Step 1: Select the Steel

I'm posting this Instructable assuming that you already have a hot enough fire, an anvil of sorts and an appropriate hammer, as well as all the other stuff. The first step is to find the steel you're using to make the knife with. My suggestion to you is: Use a tool.
Tools are made from hard steel, right? They usually are.
If the tool you're using has to put up with a lot of bending and twisting and hammering and general abuse, it'll probably be a meduim carbon steel, or a spring steel. Either of these is fine, in fact you could just use a bit of a car spring like jtobako did, that'll do the job perfectly, because throwing knives need to be flexible. If the tool you're using has to be hard and wear-resistant, like a file or a drill bit (I don't recommend using drill bits.) then it'll most likely be high carbon steel. I used a file. The first thing we need to think about when forging files is that they have teeth. Forge them with the teeth still on and you'll trap scale in the gaps, then fold the teeth over. it'll be terrible. Grind the teeth off the file. it helps if you anneal the steel before you do this. To anneal steel, get a good fire going and chuck the steel in. Let the whole piece get to a dull red heat and then let the fire die off slowly. If you anneal the file, you won't wear away your grinding wheel too quickly.

Step 2: Start Forging...or Not.

I went for a Japenese-ninja-kunai-naruto-ish inspired thing here. I don't watch Naruto, but a lot of my freinds do, so i made this in the hopes that they'll buy some...;)
I looked up the naruto kunai on the interweb and its a lot different to the normal Japanese kunai (intended as a tool, like a trowel, or a wrecking bar, not a weapon) it LOOKS alright, with a triangular dagger blade and a ring on the handle. I couldn't be bothered to shape the steel into the triangly-shape, and i'm not going to learn to forge weld, just to get the loop on the end closed, so i'll add my own little features that'll make it much easier for me to forge it, but not detract from its functionality.
The blade will be a knife blade; only one side sharp, and the loop will be open-ish. In the next step, i'll show you how i made the loop.

Step 3: Make the Loop

To make the loop on the end of the knife, i bent the steel. A lot. I know it's fairly obvious that you'd have to bend the steel to get bendy steel but i just needed to say that. Start by drawing out about 4 inches of the file. To draw out steel, heat the bit you want to work to forging heat and hit it on one side, then turn it through 90 degrees and hit it some more on the other side. you reduce the width and depth but increase the volume. Draw it out till its about 3/4 its original thickness. Once you've drawn it out, you'll need to bend it through 90 degrees, so it looks like the first picture.
For the next step of the bendening, you'll need to make a quwstion-markish sort of shape, by bending it around again.
Now comes the tricky part, you'll need to get inside the flat bit and bend that over too. My best advise is Be Creative.
Finally in this step, finish the bendification by pushing the end of the steel over to meet the main part of the bar. After that, I hot-cut off the rest of the file, that I hadn't ground so it was smaller and easier to work with. Now its about 6 inches long with a loop on the end.

Step 4: Forge the Blade

You now need to forge the blade of the knife. Start by making it a bit more Square-ish. Just heat it to forging heat and hit it till its more a rectangle than a cirle in its cross section (i started with a round file) Once you've done that, start forging the tip. Get the steel in your pliers or tongs and hit the hot end till it gets compressed and looks sort of like the tip of a knife. This is basically a variant on the drawing-out i mentioned in the last step. We'll be grinding it later, so don't worry if the tip's still thich and heavy, all you want to do in this step is to get it started.
Forge the blade by heating it up, holding it at an angle to the anvil and hitting it to create a blade shape. jtobako's got a much better instructable on making the bevel. Once the shape of the knife is made, let it cool slowly, and i mean really slowly. Hang it in the air if you can, or put it on some sand. If you found the meaning in my appalling description and put it into practice, you should have something that looks like this.

Step 5: Grind It to Shape

There will awlaws be a need to grind a forged object. Lets face it, forging's hardly the most precise of procedures, anyway.
If you want to do it by hand, use a vice and a file. Have fun in your toils, I wish you well! Personally, I believe that tools are made to be used. That's why i'm using my bench grinder to take away all the excess steel. This beast bites deep and does it quickly. One moment's lack of attention could have you looking on the floor for your fingers or, even worse, could completely mess up your knife! porceed with caution. Once it's been ground to shape, you should set about removing the grind lines. THIS is where I recommend a file, and a fine one at that. Again, proceed carefully. After the file, I moved on to a coarse waterstone.
I know for a fact that the best way to proceed is to get most, if not all of the necessary shaping and grinding out of the way before heat-treating the steel, I mean, why make extra work for yourself?

Step 6: Heat-treat the Blade

Heat-treating steel's a two step operation. First, you heat it up, and cool it quickly. Second, you heat it up slowly, as slowly as possible, and watch for the colours. you're going from hard and brittle to soft and springy. Yellow is the brittle one, Blue is the soft one. (a blue temper is still quite hard, in good steels)
All hardened blades need tempering, but some more than others. Throwing knives need to be very tough, because they smash into things with great force. If it cracks, it's an embarassment to the person using it, and to the person who made it.
So, warm up the steel with a blowtorch, or in your forge, it doesn't matter, as long as it gets hot enough. There is a point at which the steel's internal structure changes from the soft crystals called Ferrite into Austensite. This is the point at which the steel is Quenched. (luckily, as the steel changes its crystal form, it stops being magnetic, that makes things a lot easier, doesn't it?) Quenching the steel cools it rapidly and changes the Austensite into Martensite. By quenching the steel, we are imparting tremendous stress to its crystals, this is what makes hardened steel hard. But it's brittle, too, so what are we to do?
Temper it. Change some of the Martensite into Troosite.
To temper the hardened steel, you need to warm it up again, but not as much this time. I suggest that you either do it slowly with a blowtorch, or, if you're using a coal forge, that you heat up a big lump of steel ot a dull red heat and let the knife draw heat out of the lump and into itself. You're looking for an all-over blue temper on this one. Don't let it get too hot, otherwise that lovely blue colour will lose its brilliance and the knife will lose its toughness. A quick note: Steels with more carbon in them need tempering slightly more for the same effect. Experience is the only real teacher here.

Step 7: Polish and Test the Blade

There's no eral need to polish the blade, it just makes it a bit shinier. If you're happy with the tempering colours, leave it, however, you DO need to test the blade. To test for cracks and toughness, clamp about 1/4 of the blade in a vise (pad the jaws of the vise with leather or cloth, or wood or something) and lean your weight on it. If it cracks, ot wasn't a good knife anyway and its a good thing you're rid of it. Go make another one. If it bends by a significant amount and flexes back to its original shape, you've succeeded. You now have a functional throwing knife, made to your own tastes and preferences.
But there's one more thing. You have a knife, but its time to have some fun. Got a shed? some cardboard boxes? irritating neighbours?
I think you know what to do.
Thanks for getting to the end of this, don't hesitate to ask me any questions. I know I could have been clearer on most of the points I made.



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    Nice work and thanks for sharing. I am definitely going to make this.

    It would have been better to have it double edged IMHO, it looks awesomer that way.

    Nice sound effects on the first pic.

    This seems like I could do this relatively easily with an eye bolt. Could this be done or is the metal wrong for the task?

    Nice, but I noticed this in step 7.

    "There's no eral need to polish the blade..."

    It may be late to comment, but I find it to be much easier to start from the other end of the loop, making it curl like a finger and then making the 90 degree bend with the loop through the horn.

    Have a look on Sk8master's 'How to throw a knife'. It isnt that bad.

    This might sound stupid but.... how do you properly throw a throwing knife?

    I've always found that throwing a knife is either all your own or by the book. The "by the book" way is really anal and you apparently have to throw it perfectly vertical (over your head) which really hurts my power. But the base ball way is kind of over the shoulder and is more horizontal. That is where my strength is. But thats just me. Also try to feel the throw. When you first get your hands on a knife, you want to get a feel for it. By this I mean you want to know how its going to spin before you throw it. To do this find your main hand position and stick with it. Say you hold it by the blade and you want to get a half spin and thus a hit. You have to experiment with different distances and hand positions. When you find a good distance, keep throwing from there. You will get a memory of the distance of a half throw. Mine is about 3-4 feet. But that depends on the size of the knife. From then on you can judge how many half spins it takes to make a full 180-360-450etc spin and increase the distance between you and the target. You can keep going from there and you're only limited to how far you can throw. Good luck.