How to Make Sodium Nitrate, A Potassium Nitrate Substitute

 by NurdRage
video How to Make Sodium Nitrate, A Potassium Nitrate Substitute
How to make sodium nitrate, which can substitute for potassium nitrate for most purposes.

Note: Sodium Nitrate is somewhat hygroscopic. Stuff you make from it such as pyrotechnic compositions should be used soon after making and not stored for extended periods of time.

WARNING: Both procedures produce large quantities of ammonia gas. You have to do this experiment outside or in a fumehood.

First get ammonium nitrate from an instant cold pack as seen in our previous video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iMeBxNcZf0

For the baking soda method. Get 80 grams of ammonium nitrate and dissolve it in 150mL of water. Filter it off directly into 84 grams of sodium bicarbonate, which is baking soda. Then boil the mixture down to 100mL or less. This is needed to decompose the ammonium bicarbonate that's formed. It cannot be skipped. The boiling will release large amounts of ammonia so you have to do this outside or in a fumehood. Once it's boiled, leave it to evaporate until dry.

For the sodium hydroxide method: Place 80 grams of ammonium nitrate in a tall container and pour 40 grams of sodium hydroxide on top. Then carefully pour 30mL of water and stand back. It will quickly react to generate ammonia gas and sodium nitrate. Stir the mixture to make sure it's completely reacted and then add another 50mL of water and stir until dissolved. Filter it out and let the clear solution evaporate.

Both methods will produce pure sodium nitrate.

To test the sodium nitrate for reactivity just mix it with an equal amount of sugar and set it on fire. Sugar does not burn by itself but with sodium nitrate it will burn with a bright yellow flame.

Sodium hydroxide is also known as Lye, Caustic Soda, or "Red Devil Lye" and can easily be purchased online.
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garpigeon says: Aug 15, 2012. 6:41 AM
If I have ammonium nitrate with limestone mixed into it will this still work?
charlie c says: Feb 18, 2010. 3:09 PM
 what can this b used for? can it be packed together to make a small charge or something?
corradini in reply to charlie cJul 6, 2012. 4:15 PM
Sausage making.

(You think I kid. You're wrong.)
XOIIO says: Aug 1, 2011. 6:37 PM
you can safely makeit inside using amonium nitrate (from cold packs) and potassium chloride (salt substitute)
corradini in reply to XOIIOJul 6, 2012. 4:05 PM
Uh - let's go with basics, here:

Where, exactly, in ammonium nitrate and potassium chloride would you find SODIUM?

As in "sodium nitrate".....
electronicz in reply to XOIIOMay 4, 2012. 8:30 AM
That makes Potassium Nitrate, not Sodium Nitrate. I have tried it.
TaylorLA says: Jan 25, 2012. 4:34 PM
when i make sodium nitrate how i store it ?
cucolea says: Jul 15, 2011. 3:23 PM
very nice tutorial . I have some questions:
How can i test if my ammonium nitrate fertiliser its good enough to make sodium nitrate and potassium nitrate?(it was delivered with no info and in a normal bag without no brand name)
and
How can i purify my ammonium nitrate fertiliser without using methanol(rare and expensive in my country)?
Pyro the maniac says: Oct 12, 2010. 2:38 PM
For the baking soda method, is proportion important? Due to the fact im using used coldpack water i cannot really measure 80 grams of ammonium nitrate due to the fact its already disolved. Any suggestions?

Thanks!
jfrazierskybeam says: Apr 26, 2009. 2:08 PM
the Ice packs that I have say that they are sodium nitrate already is there a prosses to make this purer or more potent? cause it is not flammable with surger as in the video I'd appreciate the help!
NurdRage (author) in reply to jfrazierskybeamApr 26, 2009. 6:01 PM
have you tried filtering and recrystalization?
tylervitale in reply to NurdRageJun 5, 2010. 5:23 PM
Yeah actually, typically in any pyrotechnic composition, purity tends to be fairly important.
___ says: Jul 19, 2009. 7:56 AM
could i boil it all the way till dry?
tylervitale in reply to ___Jun 5, 2010. 5:20 PM
I really wouldn't recommend it. If you heat it enough, it decomposes into nitrogen dioxide and sodium oxide in a decomposition reaction as follows: NaNO3 -> Na2O + NO2.
NurdRage (author) in reply to ___Jul 19, 2009. 8:46 AM
answer in prior comments
Joona-96- says: May 31, 2010. 8:24 AM
i tried sodium nitrate/icing sugar mix in small model rocket engine tube, and it didn't work really well, i think NaNO3 doesn't burn fast enough to work in rockets or r candy. but you can try that yourself ofcourse. But if you add some aluminium powder to NaNO3/sugar mixture it will burn faster. i tried that and it burned a lot faster, and brighter.
tylervitale in reply to Joona-96-Jun 5, 2010. 5:16 PM
Bare in mind, that the chemistry for black powder and rocket candy using sodium nitrate as a substitute for potassium nitrate, is a little different. for example black powder is 75:15:10 KNO3 to Charcoal to Sulfur. but using sodium nitrate the ratio amount of NaNO3 is lowered to only 69 parts by mass. The charcoal and sulfur measurments are slightly tweaked too, so google it.
junits15 says: Aug 15, 2009. 4:27 PM
will this method work to make r candy?
krazy9987 in reply to junits15May 12, 2010. 8:52 AM
i would like to know the answer to this as well
Joona-96- says: Mar 11, 2010. 10:37 PM
I made this stuff yesterday like half a kilogram, and it worked really well! thx for instuctable!
cowscankill says: Jun 15, 2009. 10:15 AM
Sweet. I might subscribe. Chemistry pwns
Thundertydus in reply to cowscankillMar 7, 2010. 10:59 AM

Time travelling stalkers, great!

cowscankill in reply to ThundertydusMar 7, 2010. 4:03 PM
Wtf...?
antidartan says: Jan 30, 2010. 9:19 AM
at the moment I have a white substance at the bottom of the jar and a liquid over top of it. Its only been a day for evaporation but there are no crystals yet. When I boiled the solution I could smell the ammonia, so I assume things were going OK. does this sound like I'm on the right track?
mr.space says: Oct 21, 2009. 8:10 AM
 If you did this with potassium chloride, would you get ammonia chloride and potassium nitrate?
obs1234 says: Jul 3, 2009. 4:22 PM
I have pure white Ammonium nitrate. Would I still have to filter???
BOOM5601 in reply to obs1234Oct 16, 2009. 11:17 AM
No.
GalaxyX says: Oct 6, 2009. 7:02 PM
about how long estimated would it take for the liquid to evaporate in the ammonium nitrate/ sodium hydroxide method?
heat700 says: Sep 27, 2009. 1:01 PM
why was it bubbling up like solder when u lit it?
minerug says: Jun 12, 2009. 5:57 AM
can this be used for smoke bombs?
NurdRage (author) in reply to minerugJun 12, 2009. 7:16 AM
yes
minerug in reply to NurdRageJun 12, 2009. 11:47 PM
Thanks
___ says: Jun 12, 2009. 5:43 AM
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NurdRage (author) in reply to ___Jun 12, 2009. 7:13 AM
Read the video description
___ in reply to NurdRageJun 12, 2009. 10:44 AM
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NurdRage (author) in reply to ___Jun 12, 2009. 10:51 AM
Answer in video description.
cor0018 says: Jun 9, 2009. 7:57 PM
When you say "Once it's boiled, leave it to evaporate until dry." do you mean leave it on the heat or just let it sit until its dry??
NurdRage (author) in reply to cor0018Jun 9, 2009. 11:59 PM
let it sit until dry without special heating. You could boil it down all the way but you risk burning your product if your heat is too much.
minerug in reply to NurdRageJun 12, 2009. 5:59 AM
And, you might be able to capture and condense the ammonia gas so you can make other stuff
killer12 says: Jun 3, 2009. 9:20 AM
i must be stupid , cause i dont get it!!!!
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