How to Make a Portable Game System

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Step 17: Build the Power Regulator

7805-Schem.PNG
What you need:
Soldering Iron
Medium-sized piece of perfboard
7805 Regulator (From the RF box)
Heatsink (You can use the one from the RF box if you like)
1,000uf Capacitor
Two 0.1uf Capacitors
1 - 10uf Capacitor
1N4001 Diode

Before we start, you have to understand what a regulator is and what it does. A regulator takes any voltage above a certain amount and drops it to a specified voltage. For example, the 7805 regulator we are using takes anything from 7.5 - 36 volts and drops it to 5v, which is what we need for the NES. The extra energy is given off as heat, so you need something called a heatsink. A heatsink attaches to the regulator and dissipates the heat coming from it. Without a heatsink, the regulator would burn itself out. The more surface area a heatsink has, the better it takes heat away from the regulator. You can use the one from the RF box.
Note: A 7805 needs at least 7.5v to run, so you must make sure your batteries are at least that much.

SOLDERING THE BOARD
Anyways, the schematic for the regulator is in the first picture. It has a drawing of the regulator and its pins. Pin 1 is the voltage in, pin 3 is ground, and pin 2 is five volts out.

The reason for all the capacitors is to smooth out any ripples in the voltage coming from the batteries. C1 can be anything from 250uf to 1,000uf, and smooths the voltage coming straight from the battery. I just used what I had lying around, which was a 250uf cap. C2, C3, and C4 smooth out the current coming from the regulator.

Some capacitors can probably be excluded, like C1 (1,000uF) and C4 (.1uF). Also, C1 could be around 470uF as well. The values aren't all that critical.

OPTIONAL
The diode, D1, is not necessary. It is only there to drop the voltage by about 1v, because I found that the regulator really gave out 6v. The NES will be fine running at 6v, but I just wanted to be safe.

I used a 3-pin connector for my regulator board, because I wanted it to be removable.You don't have to, but it does make things easier.

See above note about capacitors.

TESTING THE BOARD
You can finally test your NES! Solder the output pin on your regulator (+5v out) to the 5v in on the NES, and attach ground. Use a couple of alligator clips to hook it up to a TV. Plug in a cartridge (Make sure it's facing the right way!), add the battery, and try it out! If it doesn't work, don't worry. Try switching the alligator clips for video and ground. If it still doesn't work, check all your connections. Make sure there are no shorts anywhere. It is highly unlikely you fried your NES. Once you get it working, set it aside and get out the screen you ordered.
 
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Aza1234 says: Dec 21, 2011. 11:09 AM
Would I still need a power regulator if I used 4 1.5V AA batteries
sasrani says: May 19, 2011. 5:45 AM
Can you please give some more information I'm very bad at this thing :(
64bitgenius in reply to sasraniJul 25, 2011. 3:15 PM
not to disappoint you, but if your bad at these things then you should probably not try this first as you will end up wasting a good amount of time and money because of screw ups; I suggest you try to do simpler things to sharpen up your skills, but don't take my words too seriously because this would be a great opportunity to gain experience.
Dreaded Boss in reply to sasraniMay 19, 2011. 11:08 AM
Exactly what do you need help with? We can go step by step.
gravythis28 says: Jul 24, 2011. 6:12 AM
In the second picture it looks as though the battery leads to both the input and ground pins?
1up (author) in reply to gravythis28Jul 24, 2011. 1:03 PM
Yes. Batteries have a positive and negative terminal. The negative terminal is ground.
crybaby810 says: Jul 20, 2011. 3:47 PM
Your explanations are great! I'm just glad your still answering questions, I saw that this article was posted three years ago so I was a little worried I wouldn't get a response. I just got my screen in the mail today so its not long before I crank this sucker out.
I do have one last question before I start actually soldering the regulator though. I see that your regulator has what look like polyester film capacitors, I'm assuming those are the two 0.1 uF capacitors from the diagram, but they are not polarized, correct? I ask because I have two 0.1uF capacitors that are polyester film and look exactly like the ones in your picture and I was curious if they would work for the regulator even though they don't seem to be polarized?
1up (author) in reply to crybaby810Jul 20, 2011. 7:11 PM
To be honest, I have no idea what kind of capacitors they are. :P They certainly aren't ceramic or electrolytic, but I'm not sure what they are. They are non-polarized, though. I'm sure any kind of capacitor is fine for this, and like I said, they're mostly redundant anyway. You don't really need a lot. You could get away with one large one before the regulator, and one smaller one after. (something like a 470µf cap and a 1µf one.)
crybaby810 says: Jul 19, 2011. 3:40 PM
One more question good sir:

So I get that you have pin 2 leading to your NES, but does that mean that you have the battery running directly to pin 1 and then have pin 3 (the ground) lead to your screen, or do you wire the battery to your screen first and then have a wire from your screen to pin 1 (and then ground the wire from pin 3 to the mother board like the video amp)? I ask because if you have two output wires leading from the battery, (one to the screen and one to the NES) then wouldn't the current would choose whichever path was shorter ( this is according to my third grade knowledge of circuitry)?
1up (author) in reply to crybaby810Jul 20, 2011. 8:09 AM
Sorta, but not really. While electricity does like to take the path of least resistance, it will still take other paths as well. That's why resistors in parallel actually lower the resistance; there are two paths to go through, so the electricity has to work less hard.

You can connect whatever you like to the battery and it will power all of it. Also, ground is universal and goes to everything. If everything does not have ground, things won't work right. I'm glad you're asking questions! If I'm being a little vague or you need a better explanation, please say so!
crybaby810 says: Jul 15, 2011. 5:12 AM
So after tooling around on google, I realized that the diagram does not show an actual connection between the ground wire and the capacitors, at least that is what I take from the pictures. So then can someone explain to me why there are those little crow feet extending from the ground wire towards the capacitors in the drawing of the circuit? I assume it is supposed to represent something about the flow of current within the circuit?
Also, the diagram shows the ground wire leaving in two directions, so I assume that answers my previous question about powering the screen, as one wire is grounded to the NES board and the other would lead back to the screen and battery, correct?
crybaby810 in reply to crybaby810Jul 15, 2011. 5:30 AM
What I mean to say about the capacitors is that in the drawing there is not anything actually connecting the empty space between the T's extending from the ground (wire 3) and from wires 1 and 2, so I can infer that the capacitors should only be connected to wires 1 and 2, and the T's (with the curved tops) coming from the ground wire (wire 3) in the diagram are simply some just some sort of formal way to articulate the flow of current for those engineers reading ?
1up (author) in reply to crybaby810Jul 17, 2011. 9:55 AM
Sorry for the confusion! Those "T"s are actually the electrical symbol for capacitors. Look here, under capacitor:
http://www.wjoe.com/circuit_symbols.htm
Dreaded Boss says: May 19, 2011. 11:28 AM
Actually, all you could use is the regulator and screw it to the metal part of the NES board. The metal would act as a heat sink. Cheaper and easier. Not to mention the space you'll save in your portable. Here is where I put mine:
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T_T_ says: Feb 15, 2011. 8:52 PM

quick question, could I charge this battery like a normal battery?
I'm not sure if it has the charging circuit built in.
buckminsterfullerene in reply to T_T_Mar 4, 2011. 7:32 AM
No, you will need an external charging system, one specifically designed for li-polymer batteries. If you dont use one specifically designed for that use, nasty things can happen as you may know if you have seen kipkays video
redsoup says: Nov 16, 2010. 12:37 PM
or you could buy one
hunter566 says: Sep 24, 2010. 12:46 PM
This is i little off topic but can u tell me how to make a 8.5 volt power regulator this is for a playstation 2 slim
htetkyawlwin in reply to hunter566Sep 28, 2010. 6:38 AM
you could use 7808 regulator IC to make nearly 8.6 volts output but it could not use more than 1.5 amperes.
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killersquirel11 in reply to htetkyawlwinOct 25, 2010. 3:02 PM
That can't possibly source enough current to run a PS2. Your only option would be a switching regulator (assuming you are running off of battery. Wall power could be regulated using a wall wart).

I would recommend building your own (if you can). National Semiconductor (www.national.com) has a good calculator which allows you to pick your specs (?V in, 8.5V out, 5.3A - might want to call it 5.5 or 6A) and then designs the schematic etc for you. That's how you'd make one yourself.

A quick search (of digikey) yielded no reasonably-priced results for pre-built supplies.

If you want to continue searching, keywords:  DC-DC converter, Switching Regulator
apenjong-31295 says: Aug 24, 2010. 4:47 AM
you said "A 7805 needs at least 7.5v to run.", but my li-ion battery is 7.4v. does that mean i can still use a 7805, or do i need a regulator with a lower spec?
1up (author) in reply to apenjong-31295Aug 25, 2010. 8:45 PM
No, that'll work just fine.
redsoup says: Aug 20, 2010. 5:38 AM
can a Nes run on 6.5v
1up (author) in reply to redsoupAug 20, 2010. 5:06 PM
Probably, but that's seriously pushing it. Just use a regulator, they will run on 6.5v.
redsoup in reply to 1upAug 20, 2010. 8:57 PM
well 9v battery + the regulator in diagram equals 6.5v i could add another d1 but the portable would be fat, safty first... i think
redsoup in reply to redsoupAug 21, 2010. 6:07 AM
just to be safe and not get screwed i can run them on this NimH battery pack i have though feeding a 12v screen 6v will work, but i did get a screen built for gaming so i could fix it
nickmaynard says: Aug 14, 2010. 7:36 AM
so, this regulator puts out 5 volts. but how do you power the screen off of that when the screen needs 7.5?
1up (author) in reply to nickmaynardAug 14, 2010. 1:23 PM
I don't, the NES runs from the 5v regulator. The screen is hooked up directly to the battery which is 7.5v.
Electro Modder says: Aug 12, 2010. 2:57 PM
Hello again. I bought another NES and started again cause I couldn't get anything working at all! It all worked fine until I got to this part again. The first time I tested it though I did accidentally swap pins 2 and 3 over on the regulator, could this have killed my NES? I even connected an LED (with a resistor) to the NES and it doesn't light up! Please help... again :) Also... is ground just connected to the big, flat metal bit in the corner and +5V just connected to the 5V (middle) pin on the nes? Cause that's what I did! :) Thanks!
1up (author) in reply to Electro ModderAug 12, 2010. 4:20 PM
Yes, you have the power connections correct. Switching pins two and three would have reversed the power going to the NES. That is probably enough to fry it, sorry.
Electro Modder in reply to 1upAug 13, 2010. 3:13 AM
OK. :( But I thought that if the LED didn't come on, I was ok because it meant no power was even getting to the NES? lol... i am confused! Also, if I have fried my NES, is there any way I can fix it without buying a 3rd one? Thanks again.
1up (author) in reply to Electro ModderAug 13, 2010. 6:22 PM
No, you can't, sorry.
TheLHP says: Aug 8, 2010. 9:54 PM
Hey i got the regulator up and running, tested it with a meter and an led, but i hoed the 5v out wire to the correct pin hole on the nes, and im not able to test it on a screen yet, but i tried hooking several leds up to the led pinholes on the side of the board and none of them lit up. Should i be worried? Thanks
1up (author) in reply to TheLHPAug 9, 2010. 11:27 AM
Do you have the LEDs reversed? And if not, did you take the RF box off? If you didn't you still need the power and reset buttons hooked up to turn it on. If you have everything hooked up right, I wouldn't worry. Just make sure the NES is getting 5v, and try building the video amp and hooking it up to a TV.
TheLHP in reply to 1upAug 9, 2010. 2:54 PM
I tried the LEDs both ways, and yea the RF box is off, and i made sure the nes is getting 5v and i even tried hooking it up to the display and nothing happened. Should i be worried? Thanks
1up (author) in reply to TheLHPAug 9, 2010. 5:21 PM
If you built the video amp you can try making another one in case you fried the transistor. Make sure you hook audio up to the TV, too, because that can tell you if the cartridge is even loading. And mess with the cartridge, too, like press on it and try turning it on again. It might be a bad cartridge connection.
Electro Modder says: Aug 5, 2010. 7:03 AM
I have a huge problem! When I hook it all up to a TV and turn it on, The TV just makes a deep humming noise and no picture comes on at all! When I put a game in at a certain angle however, I often get a very short, fast tune or a single note followed by deep humming again. (Still no picture) :( I didn't make the regulator though as my batteries give out 6V. I do not think that this is the problem though, but I have NO IDEA what the problem is with it!!! Please help :(
1up (author) in reply to Electro ModderAug 6, 2010. 10:19 AM
Either your batteries are not fully charged, or perhaps they are above 6v when fully charged and fried the NES. Try it with a regulated 5v supply. And if you already added the new cartridge slot, make sure all your connections are secure.
deryan97 says: Jul 8, 2010. 7:05 AM
hey i was just wondering whats the voltage on the capasitors cuse they say 45v at 100uf or something so does it matter or i should go with higher or lower voltage please reply
1up (author) in reply to deryan97Jul 8, 2010. 11:34 AM
The voltage just needs to be at least twice the supply voltage. For 7.5v, get a 16v cap at least.
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