How to UPGRADE from Vista to Windows XP on an Acer laptop

 by CharredPC
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My wife recently bought me an Acer Extensa 5620 for Christmas. It's a great little unit with a lot of potential, but the one big flaw was the operating system: it came with Windows Vista. The fast hardware was crippled by the bloated, clumsy OS. I was therefore forced to figure out exactly how to get XP on it, so wrote up a guide to help others. It should apply to different Acer notebooks, and likely has info useful to other brands as well.

It's not as simple at it used to be. Today's laptops are 'meant' for Vista, so trying to install XP often isn't easy. In the case of my 5620, the hard drive wasn't even detected until I researched and changed Bios settings (known as the AHCI issue). I'm SO much happier after ditching Vista, though- when I first got it, a 1GHz Pentium III with XP could have run circles around it!
 
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Step 1: Preparation

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Don't immediately wipe Vista! It's actually useful for another hour or so. Use Acer's backup software (mine had an Acer floating toolbar with this) to do two things-

First, a Full Backup of your system. Trust me, if you ever have to send your Acer in for servicing, it better have Vista on it or your warranty could be voided. Plus, someday when you sell it, uninformed people think it's a plus point ;)

Secondly, why bother downloading random drivers you hope are the right ones? Acer makes it easy with its Driver and Application backup CD creator. A little known fact is that these drivers appear to be both the complete Vista AND XP set. Once you're done, you'll have burned three DVD's, and be ready for some XP goodness! If you've already wiped it, or just want the latest available, grab them from [ftp://ftp.support.acer-euro.com/notebook/ here]. I did both, just in case, throwing the newest onto a 256MB USB drive. Thirdly, look in Device Manager to see what AHCI Disk Controller you have! Write this down. On the Best Buy Acer Extensa 5620-6830, it's the 'Intel 82801HEM/HBM SATA AHCI.' Other models may be slightly different. This info is important later, and it can be difficult to find out without some annoying trial and error.
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Chagri in reply to James (pseudo-geek)Apr 5, 2008. 7:51 PM
It may floor you, but there is more to life (and computers) than playing games, and filling your mind with empty fantasy. (I almost wrote "imbecile games" but decided it is really not fair and uncalled for, so just "games"...)
James (pseudo-geek) in reply to ChagriApr 5, 2008. 11:14 PM
DUH I know that, but I enjoy my computer games dude, the same way other people enjoy watching a ball game or souping up their car.
James (pseudo-geek) in reply to James (pseudo-geek)Apr 5, 2008. 11:15 PM
theres nothing wrong with it, its just my hobby. I do other things too.
CharredPC (author) in reply to James (pseudo-geek)Jan 17, 2008. 12:51 PM
"don't require a high-power PC" ... much like 90% of the world. And we do play games. Last I checked, a new videocard was cheaper than a whole new computer; not to mention the better frame rates / lower overhead within XP :)
Yerboogieman in reply to CharredPCMar 25, 2008. 5:49 PM
i know people that are still running windows 98 and dont really know theres a new operating system or even what an operating system is, i hate that
bob_shaftenkluger in reply to YerboogiemanAug 7, 2008. 11:13 AM
If I could I would still use 98 myself. I eventually had to go to xp because of lack of suport for 98. Just when I finally get xp running to my satisfaction, vista appears. Doh! I didnt want xp. I dont want vista. I know eventually I will have to have vista, and when I finaly get a pc fast enough to run it properly, the next windows will come out. I wish linux was actually a viable alternative.
Treknology in reply to bob_shaftenklugerSep 18, 2010. 5:13 AM
Ditto. 98SE is probably the most stable version of 'doze I have encountered. Unfortunately I cannot find a web browser that copes with all the modern shovel ware of the average website, and so have had to upgrade certain machines to XP. Some form of Linux will be my next choice.
James (pseudo-geek) in reply to CharredPCJan 17, 2008. 1:11 PM
Then just buy more ram.
The Arbiter in reply to James (pseudo-geek)Feb 14, 2010. 11:49 PM
James, you can't always "just buy more ram".  What is your board is maxed out (yes, there are some boards who have a limit to the amount of ram that can be installed)? 

I have done the same thing as the author has done here (though, I was not as prepared...good job CharredPC!)  and everyone I have done this for has enjoyed XP much more than the Vista with which their computers originally came.

For the haters I say, why are you in here to begin with?  If you like Vista, fine.  CharredPC is not proselytizing here, just offereing a good Instructable.
The Arbiter in reply to The ArbiterFeb 14, 2010. 11:50 PM
Wow...LOL, just realized this was from Jan 08.  I think I need my bifocals upgraded.
CharredPC (author) in reply to James (pseudo-geek)Jan 17, 2008. 1:18 PM
Brilliant. Another person throwing money and hardware at a software problem.
James (pseudo-geek) in reply to CharredPCJan 17, 2008. 2:16 PM
dude. its not a "problem" its jsut one of the features of vista. if you have a pc with less than 2gig ram, use XP, if you have more, use vista. problem solved. honestly I dont see the point. this is a MATTER OF OPINION. It doesnt matter what either of us think, just use whichever you prefer and i'll use the one I prefer.
chaoscampbell in reply to James (pseudo-geek)Jan 20, 2008. 6:35 AM
Microsoft and the computer industry thanks you. This is exactly what vista was designed to do... make people pitch in to the bottom line at microsoft and give the computer industry a reason to make dual and quad cores... because without Vista... what does the average computer user need with dual/quad core?
CharredPC (author) in reply to James (pseudo-geek)Jan 17, 2008. 2:50 PM
You're right, it's just a feature. An undocumented bonus feature, like every MS problem ;) Sounds good, enjoy your Vista.
Yerboogieman in reply to CharredPCMar 25, 2008. 6:00 PM
everybody did the same thing with XP, 98, and 2000, ME just sucked, and hated it and said it was slow, bad and to switch back to better systems before those new ones came out..
CharredPC (author) in reply to YerboogiemanMar 26, 2008. 3:39 PM
Read all the comments, then post, please. This argument has been brought up and dismissed. You're just echoing points that have been disproved/explained.
James (pseudo-geek) in reply to CharredPCJan 17, 2008. 2:51 PM
I actually use XP. I agree that vista has alot of bugs, but that wasnt what I was talknig about.
dorame in reply to CharredPCJan 16, 2008. 8:35 PM
ummm, I'm not sure where you get all this 'performance drop' nonsense from - I can assure you that I can run several apps (Photoshop) and Games (like FSX and Crysis) much better than I ever could under XP.

...anyway I will be here waiting to give you guys a hand with Vista when MS eventually pulls the plug on XP ;)

Oh well, back to to my BMW, while you are tinkering in your shop! ;)

Just to show you there are no hard feelings go here and d/l your BMW M3:

http://www.m3-challenge.com/index.php?id=3&L=0
(see you on the track :)
CharredPC (author) in reply to dorameJan 16, 2008. 8:47 PM
Riiiight. The OS that uses twice the resources and has double the minimum requirements runs applications better than XP. If we're comparing your 2001 XP setup to a 2008 Vista laptop, then I'll agree. Otherwise... keep dreaming.
Mexicoman in reply to CharredPCJan 17, 2008. 3:41 PM
You are very smart man. You rational is correct. Other people not have rational think, they have big money and not want to spend time to think. Is social disease maybe. All have brain, but not use. Some maybe call vista social trap. Make people think is new is better. But what vista actually do better? Nothing. Get Ubuntu if want much fast and secure or Mac for beautiful publishing, but suffer bit of program loss. OS with most application is MS. XP not perfect, but not Vista basura either. Is Espanol word. You who not agree look word BASURA up online to see accuracy about Vista please. Thank you for good instructable. Is right to show to those who smart enough to use. Others who no intelligent, use Vista. Who care?
klbclem in reply to CharredPCJan 16, 2008. 10:02 PM
Given the appropriate amount of system resources vista runs fine and actually better in some situations (memory management has been significantly improved, leading to less swapping on 2GBi+ ram for instance, for those of you who have random slowdowns when you use more than 50% of your ram vista helps). Flip3d and the start menu search is good as well as the more bug-free media center suite (MUCH better then MCE). Anyone ever try to hoke up MCE to a domain based network, anyone successful? Didn't think so, well you can on Vista. DX10 anyone? Also support for more ram (even on XP my minimum amount of ram is 2GBi and I'm migrating to 4 already) has been introduced with vista using PAE (since jumping to x64 is not an option for me). Th BTW if your 1GBi comp supports 2GB ram go spend the $30-$60 and upgrade, it really is noticeable since XP has atrocious memory management.
CharredPC (author) in reply to klbclemJan 16, 2008. 10:44 PM
Not to beat a dead horse here, but in all the benchmarks and testing between Vista and XP on the same hardware, XP came out 7-23% ahead. That's not including the dropped frames during gaming and the required extra RAM with Vista. It simply can't be as efficient with that much overhead.

Unless they do some major changes, all 32-bit operating systems are limited to around 3GB of RAM. Upgrading to 4GB is pointless, and the OS can't use it. The addressing up that high overlaps with the PCI bus, IIRC. Last I heard they were working on a patch for Vista that let it report 4GB- though it could still only use the first 3GB. 64-bit operating systems don't have this problem, and PAE doesn't solve this problem. Do some reading.

The dozen people who ever tried hooking MCE to a domain based network are very excited right now. The several million home users understandably don't care.

What are we up to, six games that use DX10? I can count it on both hands, anyway. Another twelve people are happy to have Vista for that reason. Maybe even sixteen! Oh, and DX10 is being (unofficially) worked on for XP as well.

Flip3D, the Start search tool, even Aero Glass and the sidebar/widgets have all been copied and are available for free on XP. Check out my other Instructable for more info.

Xp's memory management is fine, especially with some tweaking. Especially as it uses half or less than Vista when just sitting at the desktop :)

...I forget, why is Vista so great again?
Punkguyta in reply to James (pseudo-geek)Jan 15, 2008. 2:31 PM
That makes no sense though, Xp is a lower version of OS than Vista, therefore replacing any software to a version that is older than that of the current version is considered a Downgrade in the tech world.
alltootechnical says: May 12, 2010. 1:46 AM
Do you mean DOWNGRADE?
darkclaw42 says: Apr 16, 2010. 7:03 PM
Heh.. Upgrade.
In my opinion, correct.
Technically, no.
omitzu says: May 24, 2008. 5:08 AM
I have the Extensa EX 5620-6266 - How do I find out if it has bluetooth or not?
TheOneAndOnlyMissingNo. in reply to omitzuMar 24, 2010. 9:27 PM
Well, first try going to the manufacturer's site (in this case Acer) and look up the exact model. when it tells you the features, it should probably say something about Bluetooth. And if it doesn't, you can try going to the store you bought it at (or a store with the exact same model) and ask the employees in the electronics department.
adnanyumer says: Feb 15, 2010. 2:07 AM
 yeah, feels like an upgrade but it's downgrade (:
TheOneAndOnlyMissingNo. says: Feb 4, 2010. 2:45 PM
I honestly think Vista absolutely SUCKS. Vista makes good hardware run like, like, like crud! XP, on the other hand, is the best OS there is along with Windows 7. Both are extremely fast and are very simple.
NYPA says: Jan 17, 2010. 5:54 PM
That's why i have 7!
S-Nocturnus says: Nov 11, 2009. 2:19 PM
I signed up in this site just so I could thank you for this Excellent tutorial ! I bought a new Acer Aspire 5738Z today and first thing I thought about is to get rid of Vista..I had the blue screen error issue but thanks to this tutorial I solved it really quick..I like the way you dealt with the AHCI problem , it works great! Now I have a new laptop with a clean fast XP on it! Thank you!

ps: I think there is a little typing error in step 5 , there is a "DRIVER" word missing in this command : Open the command line (Start -> Run -> cmd), and enter "c:\AHCI\setup.exe -a -pc:\" should be like that Open the command line (Start -> Run -> cmd), and enter "c:\AHCI\setup.exe -a -pc:\DRIVER" otherwise some people who are not familiar with dos and file systems will not find the .inf needed..
TiaanR says: Sep 22, 2009. 6:54 AM
Plz. where is the link to update the bios?
MasterMediaXD says: Oct 18, 2008. 10:41 AM
Hi I think you mean DOWNGRADE vista is the LATEST and is better you should UPGRADE to vista from XP! I'm running Vista?!
BlessedWrath in reply to MasterMediaXDOct 22, 2008. 11:17 AM
~chuckle~ You like slow speeds, random crashes and lockups, and vast program incompatibility? Congratulations on your fine purchase.
ReCreate in reply to BlessedWrathJun 15, 2009. 9:44 PM
vast program incompatibility is what i dislike most about microsoft's new os'es, but i managed to suck it up, and get the second best thing...
ReCreate in reply to ReCreateJun 15, 2009. 9:44 PM
dang, i can't upload an image...
tanmanknex in reply to ReCreateJun 29, 2009. 10:35 AM
because you're on vista!!! ;D (jk, just saw that opening and had to take it!)
ReCreate in reply to tanmanknexJun 29, 2009. 12:45 PM
Not really...I'm on vista's big brother, 7...
tanmanknex in reply to ReCreateJun 29, 2009. 2:36 PM
i knew you probably weren't... I'm on 7 right now, but am tri-booting xp and vista as well. as soon as i transfer my files to xp, I'm going to get rid of vista!!! sayonara, you big piece of junk!
ReCreate in reply to tanmanknexJun 29, 2009. 2:41 PM
Yeah, I Like 7 much better than vista, But XP is still the best ;)
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