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How to build a wood fired hot tub

How to build a wood fired hot tub
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In this instructable I will describe how I built a hot tub for less than $100 NZ ($75ish USD) from an old bulk liquids tank, a gas bottle and some stainless tube and junk that I had laying around.



This tub is cheap and relatively easy to build and is also useful as a plunge pool in hot weather too. Oh and you can cook on the top of it too!
 
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Step 1Stuff you will need

Parts:
- 3 metres of 25mm (1in) stainless tube
- 1 old LPG gas bottle (the kind used for barbecue grills)
- 1 bulk liquids storage tank (the 1000litre kind with a steel palletised cage)
- enough old corrugated iron to cover the outside of the tank
- scrap polystyrene packaging
- 1 closed cell foam camping mattress
- a roll of soft narrow gauge binding wire (or equivalent - you could use cable ties at a pinch)
- scrap metal parts for the legs and decoration
- a canoe paddle or something similar

Tools:
- arc welder (and the safety gear to go with it)
- angle grinder with metal cutting and grinding discs
- pipe bender large enough to bend 1 inch stainless tube
- tin snips
- heat gun / paint stripper
- box cutter
- strong pliers with a sharp cutting edge
- the trusty knockometer
- various clamps
- magnetic welding clamps are handy
- hacksaw (omit if you're deft with the angle grinder)
- handsaw/drawsaw or equivalent
- narrow nail punch/set or a strong nail
- cordless drill with a 2 - 3mm bit
- a vivid or permanent marker pen

- a gas axe is an optional extra here if you have one and aren't afraid to use it
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Apr 6, 2012. 4:18 AMFitzcarraldo says:
Just thought I'd include that you can add bubbles quite economically by using a ShopVac to send air thru an underwater ring of holes made of PVC, copper, or whatever. Obviously some sort of an enclosure is needed to lessen the noise level of the motor. The effect is pretty impressive for a $30 vac.

Dec 12, 2011. 10:28 AMomegaton says:
SOOO awesome. I am planning a one-person version out of a light-weight wall-tent type stove and a disused bathtub. The advantages I see for using a bathtub are that it will heat more quickly, take up less space in my modest-sized back yard, will be easier to remove when I move, and can be drained between uses so I won't have to deal with maintenance. Being able to accommodate only one person at a time is fine with me, as I will be using it for peaceful relaxation rather than socializing.

Aside from this utopian vision, I'm pretty clueless about carrying the project out, as revealed in the following questions for those of you who are handier than me:

1- Someone mentioned concerns about superheating the water if you use a rocket stove, because they burn so hot. Should I be worried about that possibility with the stove I am using? (see picture).

2 - I haven't acquired the bathtub yet, and am trying to decide between fiberglass (I can get an awesomely gaudy giant pink one at a used building supply place for $70) or cast-iron (smallish used ones starting at $200). Aside from price, I think the fiberglass option would have the advantages of being easier to move, easier to cut the outlet hole, and easier to find one that is sufficiently deep. The downside would be that fiberglass is more fragile. Thoughts on how I might mitigate the fragility of fiberglass? Are there other pros and cons I should consider for fiberglass vs. cast iron? Other tub materials I should consider?

3 - If I run the tubing partially through the chimney (assuming I can get the tub high enough for the water to flow properly), will that help capture some of the heat that would otherwise be lost? Is there any reason I shouldn't do that (e.g. the risk of superheating)?

4 - Some non-metal tubing is rated for quite high temperatures. Am I right in thinking that, nonetheless, it would be unwise to use PEX or other non-metal tubing in place of any part of the metal tubing because it could melt? I hope I'm wrong, because PEX is so much easier to work with, I have bunches of it lying around, and would be much easier to configure with respect to connecting to the tub because it is somewhat flexible.

5 - Aside from having additional steel plating welded onto the rather flimsy bottom of the stove, what can I do to prevent it burning out? Would putting a layer of fire brick in the bottom help? Other material?

Thanks in advance for any advice!
Dec 6, 2011. 1:54 AMtocatech says:
hey guys,

I hear alot about not using copper pipe in chloronated water and rather to use 316 stainless steel, it's just the price difference between copper and that grade steel is vast...

so is there anyone that tried copper in chloronated water?
And is their any other alternative tubing to copper and steel.

Another design i was thinking about was maybe using a barrol, fill the barrel with water, heat the barrol to get water to near boiling, have coiled polypipe in the barrol where the pool water will run through, what you guys think?
Oct 21, 2011. 1:25 PMninjatesshin says:
cool! i make this tomorrow (there finland clock is 23:24 or 11:24 pm)
Oct 3, 2011. 3:57 AMnhill5 says:
I'm just done building mine except instead of using an old IBC tank i managed to find a second hand build-in plastic (stay away from fiberglass, they break easily) hexagonal tub from trademe for $80 NZD. It also came with a pump, filter, electric heat (i'll still be using a fire) and a blower for free. I built a frame around the tub from wood, i can seat 10 people and it looks the part. Just another though as it was only $80 plus some wood from bargain boards in Thames. Still trying to perfect the heating system. At the moment i have an old open fire place with a wet back system, but it is a poor conductor so i'm thinking of throwing an old all copper car radiator in its place. Any ideas on this would be appreciated. Thanks, Nick
Aug 9, 2010. 4:58 PMlindornea says:
Hey will you marry me? You are my kind of guy. I'm too chicken to use the LPG tank but everything else seems like a "go" for me. Thanks so much. Love your wood burner :O) he is very awesome.
Sep 15, 2011. 1:22 PMmattadamsnet says:
Sweet! There are girls out there that actually go for guys like us.

It's like a nerd trying to find a wife, in the end you have to settle.
May 14, 2011. 7:29 AMpmaag says:
Thanks !
I used your basic idea but modified the water heater :D takes approximately 2 hours to heat the entire thing! :D I am also using a pump as the pipes in a radiator are too small to sustain natural circulation in an effective way :D

but how do you keep it clean ? cause the water turns bad really fast !
Jun 22, 2011. 10:54 AMlrushton says:
what did you use insted of the 25mm steel tube for the heater??
Jun 22, 2011. 2:59 PMpmaag says:
a radiator ;) and a thin one at that. it is about 15 mm but you need to build the oven to the specs of the radiator. it isn't as pretty as the original but it is effective.
May 23, 2011. 5:23 AMcowsclimbtrees says:
How does the water circulate
May 23, 2011. 3:01 AMKelticpaddler says:
I may be teaching you all to suck eggs, but may I suggest you use 3 legs instead of 4?
A "fouth" leg makes it wobble, and it's a pain trying to level a 4 legged stool, table etc.

Stunning projetc Veloboy, well played sir
Apr 18, 2011. 12:30 AMsmy1 says:
so i am curious how is the how circulating in and out of the heater coil??
Oct 6, 2010. 7:55 PMtim13211 says:
What does the coil in the tub go?
Sep 3, 2010. 1:22 AMAnnatar2 says:
Love this project. Definatly going to build this at some point once I get back from Iraq. For those of you looking for the container, check 'IBC Tote' on Ebay. You can usually pick them up for under $100, though due to the size its generally local pickup only.
Sep 1, 2010. 4:42 AMZion_Sphere says:
I have so much work at the moment, but if I could get a group project together I would be all over this. Excellent!
Aug 8, 2010. 8:09 AMcarpespasm says:
It's not part of a hot tub, but your heater reminds me greatly of this outdoor fireplace/tongue drum I made. http://thestuffimade.blogspot.com/2010/07/i-made-tiki-burn-barreloutdoor.html
Aug 9, 2010. 4:59 PMlindornea says:
so very cool!
Aug 9, 2010. 9:05 AMtriciab1212 says:
completely nuts! How refreshing! I love it!
Aug 8, 2010. 4:31 PMPader says:
I would love to build one of these but I live on the 9th storey of an apartment block and I cannot afford 16000 bricks for the plinth :-p
Jul 31, 2009. 1:20 AMarhillbilly says:
Very nice! I have an old therapy whirlpool that I couldn't afford to run using an electric water heater. But there are plenty of dead trees in my woodlot that need to be cleared for fire prevention!

Just a word of caution to those who don't know about these things. Common sense would tell you that if you emptied the LPG bottle and even triple washed it with detergent and hot water that there couldn't be any gas left in it.

THIS IS NOT SO! With both gasoline tanks and LPG tanks, the steel can and does become impregnated with the fuel and can leach out for MONTHS after it has been emptied and even triple washed with detergent and hot water!

I have two personal friends that fortunately lived through the experience, though not without scars to prove it. In both cases it had been less than ten to fifteen minutes since the last wash and the time they began cutting/ welding. They both woke up in the hospital!

If you must use an LPG tank, it is best if you can do it with the tank FULL of water with an Oxy/Acetylene torch AFTER triple washing. It is dangerous to cut with an electric grinder when it is full of water for what should be obvious reasons.

It can be done safely, but if you don't KNOW what you are doing, it is better to either find a different container (a 10, 15, 30, or 55 gallon drum would work very nicely or an old hot water tank) for your heater or take it to a professional to have them cut it open for you, IF you can find one that is willing to take the risk.

Please feel free to copy and paste the above warning to the beginning of step 8. It could save someone's life. I know of others that were not so fortunate.

Again, Very nice! Awesome artwork!

Thanks for sharing it!
Aug 8, 2010. 8:34 AMzoomroom says:
don't use water, use sand. i used to solder gas tanks and we filled them with sand AFTER washing. Sand won't react badly with electricity. I would NEVER EVER cut into a propane tank. Find a water heater liner. Everything else is wonderful and I plan on copying you on this. thanks for sharing! I do wonder about filtration etc ...
Jul 17, 2010. 11:36 AMSkai says:
wow thanks for watching out.
Mar 8, 2010. 2:15 AMfred bloggs says:
I agree... these steel containers that have had highly combustible liquids/gasses in them, can react to heat by exploding.

If you fill them with sand though, they cannot get enough oxygen to explode, without the risk of electrocution.

The project looks very interesting and much cheaper than other options on the market.

I would think 1½" - 2" pipes would be better for natural circulation of the hot water. You risk the heater actually boiling, if the circulation is too slow.'
Jul 11, 2010. 6:38 AM-Aj- says:
best way to deal with flammable gas/liquid containers, wash out afew times, then just fill with water and grind the top off. it cant explode when its full of water. Yes i am speaking from experience. youre going to be lighting a fire in it eventually anyway so once youve actually cut it open you may as well do exactly that, theres not going to be any more combustibles in there once youve set the damn thing alight.
Jun 12, 2010. 7:54 PMaeray says:
Putting some dry ice in the tank works as well.
Dec 12, 2009. 2:46 PMlukeyj15 says:
 Buying a new empty gas bottle is an option
Aug 9, 2010. 5:56 AMlukeyj15 says:
but nirogen is inert. how will it do anything?
Aug 9, 2010. 11:38 PMlukeyj15 says:
and yes, gas tanks have a lot of gas at a lot of psi
Aug 9, 2010. 11:37 PMlukeyj15 says:
Well it never hurts to be cautious, but opening the valve for a couple of minutes should be sufficient.
Mar 3, 2011. 8:42 PMthirstbuster says:
If you don't have a recepticle on the tank nothing will leak out when you open it. If you don't understand propane, best not to mess with it!
Aug 8, 2010. 6:36 AMpdtnc says:
Cool work.
Jul 17, 2010. 11:38 AMSkai says:
Wow this is the probaby my favorite d.i.y project ive ever come across. that happy little robot/tank is the coolest thing ive seen. way to combine art with functionality. absolutely robust. would love to be able to have this, access to solar, and any other form of energy so that im sure to make this a free running hot tub. thanks so much for sharing your awesome creation
May 25, 2010. 1:42 PMrsollman says:
I did a similar project using a 10' X 3' circular metal horse trough.

For the heat however I rigged up a
- 500gph bilge pump from a john-boat in our pasture to supply the water to the piping and heaters cores.
- 2 heater cores from a local junkyard ($15)
- 8 feet of flexible copper pipe ($10ish)
- and a large wood burner/heater

The process was that I drilled to holes in the back of the wood burner for the copper pipe to be placed directly in the flames, from there the water was ran up the smoke stack where I had placed the heater cores in-line with the exhaust fumes/air from the fire. (At first I thought that might melt the fins on the heater core but after 2 summers of use no issues)

I had a photo of it posted on collegehumor.com (a friend thought I was truly redneck...) but since have lost it.

Great idea however using the pre-made metal basket. We had to wrap several layers of insulation around the trough to keep the heat in after the fire went out. Otherwise it was spitting boiling water into the tub while the smoke usually rose above us.

May 2, 2010. 7:45 AMHamish121212 says:
Can I ask why you dindt use polystyrene for the base?
Apr 28, 2010. 12:52 PMThreeWestCreative says:
Wow great project! And finally I can tell how big those IBC Totes are! I've been wanting to buy a 275 gallon one for my Aquaponics system but could not get an idea of just how big those things are. Now that I can see people sitting in one, wow... those are huge! :)
Aug 26, 2009. 3:14 PMabadfart says:
very nice but if you were to get a hot tub with a busted heater core you could rout the water threw the heater
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