Step 11: Evaluation of my robot

As you may be wondering at this point about how my robot did in competition this page is a review of the design and performance. At the competition I was I did not win a single match, although they mostly went to split decision. This was due to a major design oversight.

I made the decision to put the spinning blade in the middle of the robot with 2 wedges leading up to it. I did this because of the problems other vertical spinning robots have had with side impacts on their exposed blades. When a spinning blade is hit from the side significant damage is done not only to the blade but to the entire subsystem.

The other major factor is the gyroscopic effect. When a blade spins it wants to keep the mass of the robot going in the same direction. This is amplified by the fact that the blade is off centered. By placing my blade in the center the gyroscopic effect was minimal.

The flaw in my design came from the skirts which lead into my wedges. I used light polycarbonate instead of spring steel. In the first match these skirts got damaged and I didn't have replacements. This diminished my ability to get under competitors rendering my blade useless.

If I were to do this again I would either replace the skirts with spring steel or remove a wedge all together and have an exposed blade. I feel that the risk of having a fatal hit on my blade would be worth being able to use my weapon.

I would change my batteries from SLA to NiCad to gain a few extra lbs and increase the size of my weapon motor. I also used .5" aluminum for the sizes and .25" for the base. I realized this is way overkill for this size machine and I could loose some more weight off the system by optimizing.

I am still happy with the result of this project as it challenged me in lots of ways. The other thing is I pride myself in is building robots unlike others. For better or worse my machine was different and I enjoy knowing that my idea was new into the world.


<p>I liked the help. I am building mine right now the electric work and wiring helped a lot thanks.</p>
<p>the evict warked </p>
<p>Id really want a vid pleas and thank you. </p>
<p>what would you suggest, flamethrower, flippers or revolving blades?</p>
<p>I think flippers and or revolving blades</p>
<p>I haven't built or run one, but this is what I've seen in the most recent battles: Flamethrowers (and Brutus' zirc guns) seem to be more about flash and crowd appeal than doing actual damage. I've never seen a flamethrower actually do significant damage. That could change if they start allowing flamethrower fuel that sticks to the opponent (napalm for example). They may help with the psychological battle, and/or interfering with the opponent's ability to see. In the lighter weights, where improvised an lightweight foam wheels are common, a flamethrower might cause wheel damage, but I've never seen it. Right now, the low-slung wide spinner drums seem to be the most damaging, but flippers often win by getting their opponent into a position where they're disabled or by throwing them entirely out of the ring. Powerful ones can also cause considerable damage when the flipped bot crashes back down. Shock protection for your internal components seems critical! I can't figure out if this 'Ible has been updated. If not, I'd love to see a new one.</p>
<p>i have seen a round where the bot punctured the armour and then used the flamethrower, it burnt out all of the electricals </p>
Unfortunately many competitions don't allow flamethrowers.
<p>I thank this site for helping my plans for my robot the S.M.1 a combo robot with a flipper in the back and a blade in the front with extra armour around the body frame.</p>
<p>Great Instructable! How recently was it updated? If not recently, I'd love to see an update now that it's back on TV! Thanks!</p>
<p>what kind of motor i have to use to make this kind of heavy combat robot ?????</p>
<p>Why cant I download this article?</p>
<p>who is this nerd</p>
<p>for one of the lower weight bots</p>
<p>Awesome instructable! I am looking at building a combat robot for a competition that will cost around $4700 US dollars, and will probably not be able to pay for it myself. Do you have any idea where I could get a sponsor?</p>
You show the design process really well! You really know your stuff! I am currently building my own combat robot, the blog is...<br> <br>http://eventorizon-maelstrom.blogspot.com/<br><br>if you want to check it out. Tell me what you think cos you definitely have the construction of your bots down to a fine art, especially cos you trust your own CAD skills enough to have the parts custom cut!
I built one, imo it sucks and i want to rebuild it. But i have no reason to... To me it seems combat robots are dead, except for a couple annual matches in CA and FL. All the websites on combat robots don't seem to be updated since 2002. (bad grammar) Now, i have this crappy bot sitting in my garage, and i have no idea what to do with it. I could use all of the electronics to make something, but what?<br />
Science is Best in the world
Robot Battles (http://robotbattles.com/) in the southeast US is still going stong.
Most of them are, unfortunately. However, the RoboGames in San Mateo, California, are still on. Apparently there are 50+ events including combat soccer, and lego bots. Even if you don't want to rebuild it as a battlebot, you could probably use the components for a soccerbot or something.
<p>Whoo! Love the robots. Wish I could build one. Go to cameltalk.webs.com or puttyfun.webs.com!</p>
I am making it but l Love making Roberts
<p>I found a great online resource to browse and compare similar products: http://www.archiexpo.com/tab/computer.html</p><br> <br>
im building a three pound robot but I don't know what the weapon can be so I need advice on what the weapon can be also this is my first battlebot
what is fabrication needed for I saw some of the other robots and one of the steps was fabrication I don't know what that is <br>
for a 3 pound robot what do you think the weapon should be I need help on this one
I want one that talks, fights, and does anything for me
Robot combat... we train them to be fighters, then when they get smart enough they revolt for us making them fight. Nice Instructable. I'll definitely be building this in my spare time.
thatz cool
I'm trying to build one of these this summer. Do you think piston-mounted spikes would work or two horizontal blades?
which type of motor should be used for cutter?
what does the orange robot do at the top of this page
how do u make the round one can u put steps on this website
would this be a good idea 2 circular saws on sides <br>nailgun on top <br>made of stainless steel <br>and a spiked rammer with a strong motor too power it <br>how much do u think it would cost plz reply
Could i just buy one simple rc car and get the inside and change the armor and put a weapon. because im cheap :D
what about programing it? where does one begin with programming?
That won't be necessary if you build with enough hardware. RC receivers don't need programming and neither do the servos. The relays, maybe, but the robots aren't autonomous.
can i just put the fuse between the wires, instead of having a breakout board??
Hi!<br/>I was wondering..... where could you get a base- where did you get yours?<br/><br/>I've all ready seen<br/> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.inertialabs.com/">http://www.inertialabs.com/</a><br/><a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.robotmarketplace.com/store.html,">http://www.robotmarketplace.com/store.html,</a> <br/><a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.battlekits.com/">http://www.battlekits.com/</a><br/><br/>P.S.-I'm trying to build a drum bot.<br/>
I built mine. Get raw aluminum plate and cut it out. If you don't have access to fabrication tools (mill, waterjet, laser, etc) you might be better off buying a pre-made base. The trade off will be that you will have to make do with what you can buy instead of doing a custom solution.
would you be willing to make this c.a.d downloadable?, i recently received a autodesk setup and id really like to see a properly made fighting robot cad (thats what i intend to use it for) befor i make mine so i get a basic idea of what to aim for, ta :)
I would be glad to give you the CAD models for the machine as soon as I get a chance to find them. They are on some portable hard drive somewhere as I have changed computers since then. email me greg at robogreg dot com and I will do my best to send them to you.
hi, i sent a email...wondering if it got through?
I got it. I am working on finding the files when I get some time.
Why do I need a Breakout board???
you need a breakout board if you want to use any type of fuses to protect your speed controllers.
about how much money would a mantisweight battlebot cost if i had if ihad like the crapiest matirials&nbsp;for it and how much would it costif i had the best matirials on it.<br /><br /><br />
unfortunately, i have highly limited resources, a max of $200 at any given time, if i'm lucky. :<sub>V</sub>(<br/>

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Bio: Mechanical Engineer with a degree from the Rochester Institute of Technology. Greg has been involved in almost every form of competitive robotics on the planet ... More »
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