How to get huge discount on a Starbucks Iced Latte without doing anything shady by Wired_24_7
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"I'll take 'Potent Potables' for $800, Trebek"

If you're anything like me, you like espresso drinks. I personally favor iced latte's. I'm not a huge fan of Starbucks since they changed their standard from hand-made espresso shots to fully automated pushbutton systems.

I find the new pushbutton espresso machine is very stingy with the espresso shots. For a while I stopped going to Starbucks completely, because of it. Normally, I just make my espresso drinks at home, but occasionally I'll venture into a Starbucks and ponder on the eerie groups of Mac-users who congregate but do not speak to each other.

Recently, I did just that. And my step brother and I discovered something interesting...

 
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Step 1: How it works

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So the claim of this Instructable is how to get a cheap iced latte.

Here's the general way it works.

Starbucks as a company isn't very bright. Milk is well over $6 / gallon in some parts of the country, from what I gather.

Edit: After reading some comments, I realize this estimate may be a little off. Buying milk in bulk is way cheaper. But, as a single male living alone, I don't buy milk in bulk.

I think I pay about $9 / gallon for my preferred brand of milk because I like to buy the organic stuff. ($4.50 for 1/2 gallon)

However, Starbucks (and most other coffee establishments) leave infinite milk out for customers to customize / finish their drinks.

Even though milk may be cheaper than $6 / gallon at your local grocery store, it sure isn't FREE. The FREE milk offered at coffee places is the secret here.
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zimitt says: Jan 20, 2013. 11:02 AM
In the past, before Starbucks changed over to automated shots, I enjoyed my espresso drinks, long. The shot is left to run longer and the result is a long shot that has more extraction from the shot and a stronger drink.
Since their change in machines, Starbucks cannot pull a long shot. I still always ask for long and they will always say that they cannot do that but they can give me an extra shot. Ive never been charged extra for this. They even often ask if Id like it in a larger cup.
kutz says: Mar 1, 2012. 5:25 PM
Dear goodness, there are a lot of angry coffee lovers in withdrawal here! Not to say that I'm dissing anyone in the comments but isn't it just coffee? I love that cup of burned beans just as much as anybody else, but there isn't any way that's "correct" or "perfect". We can all post about why our coffee is so much better prepared or higher quality until our fingers snap from typing so much, but it all comes down to the fact that we should just go with what we like best. Thats also kinda why I like Instructables so much, is because if you like something, you can share it with everyone so that they can try it too!

Im just trying to say that we shouldn't condemn people for a particular method in their Instructable, but rather provide constructive criticism to improve it. So there's my two bits about all that :P

Anyhow I think that Starbucks has enough money and success that we can get away with a cheap drink once and a while x3
djimdy says: Feb 12, 2012. 11:39 PM
The outrage by people here is not surprising. After all, outrage is much easier than a fair discussion. FWIW, I wouldn't bother with this instructable, but that said, your guide does lean on the side of being taunting.

But on the face of it, I don't see this as dodgy so much as a question of which standards you are willing to play by in the game of money vs. convenience. I don't really care what the baristas think. They may be shareholders, but they're still just working stiffs who more than likely have little-guy axes to grind just like most of us, not the suits who set the prices and policies, otherwise, they'd be wearing the suits.

So those suits have determined that $4+ is what the market will bear for the convenience of having that iced latte made for you by a stiff without you having to cheap out and raid their condiments section.

Want to raid the condiments section? I guarantee they've thought of that and are willing to accept it. Bravo to you for having the balls to do this on the backs of Starbucks' profit margins. And I'm not being snide. There's nothing stopping you from refilling that cup with milk and straight up drinking it, either. "Good Will" is a corporate policy for a reason; it makes the company more appealing and customers more content.It's even tax-deductible.

Not all customers have the same standards, so there is slack in the system. Sure, if it happens too much, there will be a lockdown from the suits. But it won't happen too much, because the profit impact is negligible, compared to the impact there would be if they wanted to go Scrooge on everyone just because of a few guys gaming the system. Think about that the next time you fly United and want an extra pack of peanuts. Or the next time you are travelling and want to use an American hotel's toilets when you don't stay at that hotel.
artificially_flavoured says: Mar 29, 2009. 12:23 AM
I prefer to avoid Starbucks altogether. First of all, they profit off of the poverty of their workers in the middle east and Asia who get maybe a dollar to farm and perform arduous labor while they pay more than seven times AN HOUR that to kids in the United States to stand around and push a button. Second of all, good coffee needs good beans and a different type of grind depending on the drink. It also needs to be made generously and attentively. Every time I've had their coffee, the quality has been bad and it tastes absolutely disgusting. I have a Mr. Coffee coffee machine and somehow my homemade coffee always tends to taste ten times better than that of Starbucks. And cheaper, too. I would advise in buying a good coffee maker (aeropress is indeed nice) or a good manual espresso machine. You'll save LOADS of money in the longrun. And if you're a poor student like me who can't afford to make the jump when it comes to the cost of the espresso machine, then at least buy from a local company or one that's not so senseless as to make profit off the backs of hard-working men, women, and children by forcing them into poverty.
qualia says: Apr 11, 2011. 11:10 PM
are you implying that starbucks is morally obliged to cease paying coffee importers who pay 3rd world country land owners and labourers for coffee crops altogether because someone else should buy it for a higher price which certainly couldnt possibly effect the demand driven consumer price?

i dunno. but thats the sort of drift i got. coz like yeah the US of A can afford anything, and if they can't afford it, they simply borrow some more, or rattle nukes till its affordable, and still pay the kid an insanely high minimum wage
(on a world scale) to stand around and push a button.

its funny yanno coz in these economies, strangely enough, they still get by well enough to produce the coffee they buy. if it was that bad, they'd ALL die and then there'd be no more coffee and then the world would get mad as withdrawal symptoms and probably start WW3

none of it makes any sense.
nissim.hadar says: Feb 10, 2012. 4:00 AM
" insanely high minimum wage " - in the U.S.???
Its 3 times as high in Australia.....
wreakhavokmal says: Jan 7, 2011. 11:11 PM
Over 50 percent of Starbucks coffee is grown "fair trade" where they give fair wages and pay fair prices for their coffee. Just sayin'. Secondly, as one of those kids who stands around and pushes a button, I can say this:

1) I don't live in the type of country in which I can grow my own produce for food; I have to work and buy my food.

2) Starbucks pays its starting employees minimum wage. You have to be with the company forever to make enough money to support yourself. You also get in trouble if you get overtime.

3) It's not just standing around pushing a button, it's also steaming the milk to a precise amount of cream, maintaining the store's cleanliness, completing an arduous list of chores, and treating every customer as if they're the only person that ever existed.
Pantharen says: Jan 11, 2012. 6:04 PM
OK, first off I have been drinking Starbucks since 1985, and when every I ordered an Iced Espresso.

I always order it the same way. 3 shots over ice, no water.. The hot coffee melts the Ice, so you dont want to add extra water and make it taste like Sonic's iced **** in a cup. Then I add coffee creamer 18% is much nicers than 2% or 3.25% milk.

So, you're not the first one to think of this game plan, others have been doing it much longer..
dakotacat says: Dec 17, 2011. 2:41 PM
You can get a medium iced mocha latte at Dunkin Donuts for $3.49 (including tax). They are sweet, creamy, and delicious and taste less bitter and so much better than Starbucks, at a lower price.
irmab says: Jan 25, 2010. 9:47 AM
Hey, I know you, aren't you the guy who invented cheap tomato soup by ordering hot water at a diner and "helping yourself" to the free ketchup on the table?


moniiiiiiiica says: Nov 12, 2011. 11:45 PM
LOL!!
moniiiiiiiica says: Nov 12, 2011. 11:39 PM
you think starbucks isn't very bright? you are the one that is not very bright. Espresso shots must be paired immediately with milk or water or they lose their almost sweet less bitter carmely taste. If you put them on ice they will just taste bitter and gross. Also that is not a latte at all. A latte is made with steamed milk?? how could you not know this. lol this is just embarrassing that you even ventured to even put this on the web. You are not a barista so please don't try to be.
rpattay says: Sep 22, 2011. 6:21 PM
Adding espresso directly to ice shocks it and makes it bitter.
When a barista makes an iced latte, milk is added to the espresso, followed by ice.
DuhTabby says: Sep 15, 2011. 6:00 AM
"eerie groups of Mac-users who congregate but do not speak to each other"....stil laughing.

buddytym says: May 18, 2011. 1:49 AM
Step 1) Walk straight past Starbucks and go to your locally owned mom and pop shop.
Step 2) Be really nice to the baristas, talk with them, tip them, smile, and go there often.
Step 3) Bring your own mug or ask for ceramic.

And voila, your coffee will be cheaper and better than Starbucks, it'll be your friend that made it for you, and your friend that gets paid in the end. And the music wont suck.
oculomancer says: Aug 23, 2011. 9:40 PM
Excellent post, great sentiment and observation.
Toaoe says: Jul 15, 2011. 4:28 PM
While it probably is shifty to do it this way, I still say it's pretty clever.
lhdore says: Apr 13, 2011. 12:00 AM
Baristas! Join the IWW! Bargain for your working conditions, your pay, and your benefits from a position of strength.
suckrpnch says: Dec 17, 2009. 6:37 AM
The milk is there as a small addition, not a full drink. People like you help keep starbucks as expensive as possible, by misusing the milk. Cheapskates have been doing this for years at all coffee houses, and it is pretty lame. Make your coffee at home, if you can't afford it...
bomboy422 says: Jan 30, 2011. 1:25 PM
i dont think people "misusing the milk" (the purpose of whick IS adding to your coffee or tea) make the coffee prices at starbucks so high...starbuck's is popular, and popular is expensive.
wreakhavokmal says: Jan 7, 2011. 8:11 AM
I Absolutely AGREE! Please, for the love of God, make your cheap coffees/lattes at home; we WON'T miss your patronage! :P
danielsard says: Mar 2, 2010. 9:40 AM
fully agree with this post(er)
suckrpnch says: Dec 17, 2009. 6:46 AM
Don't get me wrong. It probably isn't a huge deal, but I would definitely put this under "Shady Methods".
Creamaster says: Jan 21, 2010. 9:46 AM
 I would have to disagree. You can't blame Starbucks' high prices on milk stealers, please. 
suckrpnch says: Jan 21, 2010. 10:14 AM
I didn't "blame Starbuck's high prices on milk stealers", those are your words.
Creamaster says: Jan 25, 2010. 8:49 AM
Right, I see that now. How could I have missed it?

So this is okay by you then?:

I would have to disagree. You can't blame people who misuse the milk for Starbucks' high prices, please.

Because those are your words. But hey... this is interesting. It turns out that even with the new and improved "your words" built right in, the essential meaning  is essentially exactly the same as before.

Huh. 

I would not have guessed that.
suckrpnch says: Jan 25, 2010. 10:35 AM
You seem really angry. I don't know why. I said that this type of practice helps "keep starbucks as expensive as possible". I didn't say that this type of practice makes starbuck's expensive.

I don't know what your problem is.
Creamaster says: Feb 1, 2010. 8:46 AM
You may be picking up on some of my residual frustration at your inability to explain your post. But clearly you have no idea what you where actually trying to say so fugettaboutit.
suckrpnch says: Feb 1, 2010. 9:46 AM
I sense the fact, that you are having a hard time forming full thoughts into sentences. I explained my post, so fugettaboutit.
timothymh says: Feb 13, 2010. 5:30 PM
 Bold. Print. Is. Bold.
Creamaster says: Jan 25, 2010. 8:49 AM
 Essentially.
moniiiiiiiica says: Nov 12, 2011. 11:41 PM
i work at starbucks and let me tell you, it does raise the price so please stay out of things that you are ignorant about.
Creamaster says: Nov 14, 2011. 8:19 AM
Sorry, but I have a hard time believing that if milk prices dropped by half tomorrow, that the price of a coffee at Starbucks would drop - at all. I think they charge lot of their coffee because they put a lot of work and expense in to sourcing and growing and company branding - and charging a premium. For profit. I doubt the price of milk, while a factor, is the defining difference that makes Satrbucks so much more expensive than other coffee shops.

I'm not trying to troll you folks but it's a coffee shop, not a milk shop and they put the milk out for free because it's not a huge expense. If it was, they'd charge for the milk too.

(Also, you can't possibly know my ignorances - and dont tell me what to do.)
treep1 says: Oct 22, 2008. 8:36 AM
I don't want to start a fight here, but I'm not so convinced you're doing nothing wrong. This is like ordering water in a restaurant and asking for a plate of lemon slices to go with it, then using them to make lemonade. Or taking a handful of Ketsup packets from McDonalds to stock your refrigerator at home. The lemons and ketsup (and in this case the milk) are made available as condiments - to be used in "condiment" amounts. Eventually, the privilege of adding your own milk (or lemons, or ketsup, etc) will be taken away as people misuse them. Being quite a tight-wad myself, I agree that paying $4 for a beverage is excessive. But I have a better money saving idea - find a recipe and make your own at home. Much more fun and you can customize it just the way you like. I just posted a Chai Latte' recipe that a Starbucks employee says beats the one they serve. I'm sure there's an instructable for making your iced chai. Hope I didn't ruffle any feathers....!
Wired_24_7 (author) says: Oct 22, 2008. 10:25 AM
Well first of all, read the instructable before making comments about how I should make stuff at home to save money. As stated, I usually make my own drinks at home, but I don't tend to bring espresso machines with me when I am out and about, miles away from home.

That's like saying "why would you ever use a toilet away from home? Your home toilet is much better."

Second, it should be noted that the drink I have "exploited" here is still perfectly acceptable by Starbucks' policies, and the proof of that is the following:

A venti iced Americano has 4 shots of espresso and costs $2.50. Americano = espresso + water. You are allowed to order an Americano without any water added. That makes it an iced espresso. In an Americano, you are allowed to add milk to adjust the flavor of your drink.

This is much less an abuse of policy, and much more an "error in pricing" on their behalf. The error is that an iced latte costs far more than it should, as evidenced by other items that are fairly priced on the menu. Hope this clears up some confusion for you who might not have thought things through before responding.

pfingers says: Jan 9, 2011. 7:29 AM
News flash - Starbucks has the right to charge whatever they want for a drink. It's kind of like the guy who asked for a cup of ice and filled it with sweet tea from the sample pitcher. To the letter of the law, it may not be stealing, but it is very dishonest.
pfingers says: Oct 22, 2008. 11:02 PM
We have a name for customers like you... "Decaf Dave"
wreakhavokmal says: Jan 7, 2011. 11:14 PM
Kinda makes you wanna put heavy cream in the half and half carafe. Also, at my Starbucks, we charge people who get iced Americanos for dairy, making the drink an additional fifty cents more expensive.
freakmonkey says: Jun 11, 2008. 1:23 PM
milk is under $4 a gallon in Florida. Good 'ible though. thanx
wreakhavokmal says: Jan 7, 2011. 11:39 PM
Yep yep, even in big cities like Tampa or Orlando, the milk is below four dollars a gallon.
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