How to make a fretless guitar with a glass fretboard! by guitarman63mm
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Well, I had an old archtop lying around, and being an advocate for the whole 'no guitar should ever die' bit, I decided to test an idea I had. Fretless guitars are interesting, but they lack sustain and bite. Sure, there are a few guitars with glass fretboards, but they're all electric! I wanted to hear what an unamplified acoustic guitar with a glass fretboard would sound like.

I've added a short video to give you an idea of what it sounds like. Cheers guys!



Please excuse my poor playing in the video above...there are no markers, and it's not like a fiddle where one can simply stay in one position and get perfect intonation...I just gambled with what my ear and experience dictated.

The name of the song is 'Vette', and the style is jazz manouche, or "gypsy jazz", as it's called here in the states. Look up Django Reinhardt if you'd like to hear it played the way it's supposed to be.

Thanks to everyone who took part in the Art of Sound voting!
 
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Step 1: Get a gee-tar and remove the frets!

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Unfortunately, I didn't really plan on documenting the steps to this...mostly because I wasn't sure it would even work in the first place! Sorry for no action shots of removing them.
Much information is available online for removing frets, but it's really quite simple. Take some end nippers, and grab and pull out slowly from the edges. On older guitars (like this one, it was sitting in a Northern Ontario basement for 20 years...) they *may* be glued in, in which case, you'll have to steam the frets to loosen the glue. Of course, if you're putting a sheet of glass over it, it really doesn't matter how well you do it anyways.
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ccurtis6 says: Nov 4, 2011. 10:00 AM
Would you ever be willing to make that guitar again and sell it? I am extremely interested in this guitar. The almost cello look is beautiful. Glass fretboards are amazing. My only issue is that it doesn't have a classical neck. I'm currently doing an undergraduate degree in Classical Guitar, and I would love to show off this instrument.
theburn7 says: Jul 20, 2011. 3:11 AM
An iron can easily loosen glue from the fretboard to the neck. Luthiers use this trick all the time, when replacing fretboards.
ttacoman says: Jul 23, 2010. 10:32 PM
Just finished this project myself and gotta say it was well worth the time. I used an electric guitar instead and it sounds great. http://s1016.photobucket.com/albums/af284/ttacoman/Mirror%20neck%20guitar/
-Syrus- says: Mar 27, 2011. 2:03 PM
Damn !

That turned out great, I own the same guitar as you!
Pacifica's are great starter guitars :)
guitarman63mm (author) says: Jul 24, 2010. 4:38 AM
Bravo man, great job! Much higher quality than mine. Cheers!
edwin white says: Jan 29, 2011. 12:39 PM
The guitarist for Black Sabbath
has a missing finger.
-Syrus- says: Mar 27, 2011. 2:02 PM
I think that you mean, he is missing fingertips by means of accident with heavy machinery. Thats why he only plays simple powerchords. All by accident.

He plays guitar left-handed. In an industrial accident at the age of 17 on his last day of work in a sheet metal factory, he lost the tips of the middle and ring finger of his right hand. After attempting to learn to play right-handed,[6] Iommi strung his guitars with lighter strings and made thimbles to extend his fingers.

Wiki power, though easy changeable. This fact I can confirm.
monkeyboychase says: Jan 26, 2011. 12:39 PM
GYPSIE JAZZ!! my guitar teacher has told me about him, awesome project i should try have an old guitar lying around. anyways AWESOME!
neffk says: Nov 23, 2010. 11:38 PM
Good work. Your video of the final product was a nice touch.
meebit says: Jun 17, 2010. 9:45 PM
i would love to see a fretless bass guitar with a glass fingerboard
poopsiedoopsie says: Aug 12, 2010. 11:49 AM
i will post pictures. Its an old stingray copy, and sounded good enough.
pigpenguin says: Jun 17, 2010. 6:01 PM
If you wanted markers you could use some etching cream might look cool to :D
wellcausedwall says: May 21, 2010. 8:56 AM
 Southpaws unite! that thing would be perfect for a bit of combining fingering and slide, i always get a little too carried away with my slide on my acoustic and end up bumping over some frets, if i ever end up wih an extra acoustic this is definitely somethign worth trying out.
zer6 says: Mar 7, 2010. 2:05 PM
Is there a problem with the stings scratching the glass? I'm thinking of doing this and I need to know. Thanks!
guitarman63mm (author) says: Mar 7, 2010. 4:18 PM
I hadn't even thought of that before!  Well, after checking, there weren't any visible scratches, although this is more of a wall ornament than a daily instrument to me.  It has been played probably 10 hours at most in its lifetime.  The roundwound acoustic strings I used have relatively little wear, and consquently, few burrs.  I imagine there are many, many scratches that aren't visible to the unaided eye, but they don't matter.
You're only shortening the scale length by pressing down, and the string itself isn't being pulled along the length of the glass, it's just your finger moving to different sections.
teapotking says: Mar 14, 2010. 2:03 PM
 I would have thought that unless you use it every single day the glass would be okay. although doing any kind of bends/using a slide that's not made of glass also could probably scratch it a bit.
Sky Coyote says: Feb 4, 2010. 6:14 PM
 Why not try slumping the glass to get the curve of the fretboard?
poopsiedoopsie says: Jan 27, 2010. 11:20 AM
imma do this to my bass.
captainrobby37 says: Dec 18, 2009. 7:05 PM
what are your thoughts on doing this to an electric guitar?
guitarman63mm (author) says: Dec 18, 2009. 10:21 PM
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guitarman63mm (author) says: Jan 5, 2010. 10:18 PM
My thoughts?  Well, I'm a bit biased, as I only play one or two types of guitars now, both acoustic (a Selmer guitar and a tricone resonator).  I grew tired of the electric sound, and both of the aforementioned have the snappy sound that I heard in my head for so many years.
     But to answer your question:  Look on youtube, and decide for yourself.  They show them with and without distortion.  I personally despise the sound a fretless electric ANYTHING makes, be it double bass, fiddle, etc.  It just sounds poor.
captainrobby37 says: Aug 25, 2009. 7:24 AM
So I want the fretboard to be completely flat, right?
guitarman63mm (author) says: Dec 18, 2009. 12:04 PM
Precisely.  That's the reason I had to use so much filler at the end, if you read my descriptions.  It would be much more professional looking with a perfectly flat fretboard, my filler method was quite crude in retrospect.
JKibs95 says: Jun 25, 2009. 6:28 PM
This is severely cool... video would make it cooler... Left-handed? Noticed your strings are on backwards...
guitarman63mm (author) says: Jun 25, 2009. 9:39 PM
Indeed, I am a lefty.
the_eradicator says: Jul 2, 2009. 7:38 AM
So am I but lost part of my middle finger on my right hand and now I can't play a lick :-p
TheGodsMustBeCrazy78 says: Jul 3, 2009. 2:56 PM
One player comes to mind who excelled with this same handicap, Jerry Garcia! Dont give up just adjust to the challenge adapt brother adapt.
christotrash says: Nov 30, 2009. 7:56 PM
Well Django could only use two fingers on his fretting hand(some would say 3) of course.
JKibs95 says: Jul 2, 2009. 12:14 PM
Oh man... that seriously bites... how'd it happen? (If you don't mind my asking)
the_eradicator says: Jul 2, 2009. 1:23 PM
It happened while on active duty in the Army....thats all I am going to say....lol All part of being a soldier.
monkeyboychase says: Jan 26, 2011. 12:41 PM
really? hmm i heard he was in a fire as a kid and they got fused together.. crazy... i will have to look it up.
guitarman63mm (author) says: Jul 2, 2009. 2:10 PM
Artillery crew? Many guys that lose their digits still try to play, with several coming to mind. In fact, in the style that the video is in-gypsy jazz-, the founder, Django Reinhardt, lost the ability to move his pinky and ring fingers, and became one of the greatest guitarists, if not the best, to ever live. I myself am joining the military once I get out of school...
abadfart says: Jul 4, 2009. 12:38 PM
one of the guise from black sabeth was missing fingertips on his left hand and i once played with a bassest who was missing down to the second knuckle on most of the fingers on his right
Jonny Katana says: Jul 9, 2009. 12:43 AM
Tony Iommi is the Sabbath member you're referring to, and he was actually the guitarist, not the bassist. He had prosthetic fingertips custom-made for his two damaged fingertips and strung his guitar with light-gauge strings. And he's still shredding :P
Tsukasa says: Dec 4, 2010. 2:29 PM
Funny side note, it was a record of Django Reinhardt that inspired Tony to continue playing guitar after he lost his fingers.
abadfart says: Jul 14, 2009. 12:26 PM
ya but the basest that i referred to was one of my buddies that we all called blender boy
Jonny Katana says: Jul 14, 2009. 11:23 PM
Ah, I should've read that better. My bad.
JKibs95 says: Jul 14, 2009. 3:39 PM
... charming...
abadfart says: Jul 16, 2009. 1:24 PM
he lost them when using a blinder hints the name and he always gave me crap for the nail threw my foot so its ok
JKibs95 says: Jun 25, 2009. 6:29 PM
Never mind... Just looked at your profile... left-handed...
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