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Form a coil with the copper tube, leaving a long lead-in. I wrapped around a demi.
Drill a hole in the bucket, and poke the lower end of your coil through this.
The copper tube is connected to the pressure-cooker with a (brewing) cork
A bit of Blu-Tac seals the tube to the bucket
Fill the bucket with cold water, and maybe some ice.
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27 comments
Sep 21, 2010. 1:37 AMpyrosparker says:
whats that fork for?
Dec 9, 2010. 8:14 AMbeehard44 says:
i knew someone would just ask about it
Feb 18, 2010. 12:07 AMbertus52x11 says:
 I have just posted an Instructable   that could be helpful to yout cooling: look under "classic heat exchanger" (don't use Aluminium though).
Sep 3, 2010. 10:02 AMEliWatney says:
I found a pretty decent answer brewing beer. I made a wort chiller with a small pump and a 5 gallon bucket of water with a lot of crushed ice.....easily adaptable for this project.
Feb 4, 2010. 1:43 PMpunkrockscienceguy says:
how much copper tubing did you use for the entire project?
Feb 4, 2010. 10:31 PMpunkrockscienceguy says:
 alright thanks how much that cost you?
Nov 8, 2009. 5:50 AMohgodwhy says:
how can you tell, the right temerature? or won't the tempereature rise until the acohol vapored?
Mar 21, 2009. 6:13 PMaceman424 says:
okay im 18 im doing this for a science fair project i can get my hands on everything even got a reciep for the mash. im just confused on how to attach that pipe to the pressure cooker. and can anyone give me links to me info about this like a reciep they know works and what temp the alcohol comes out at
Aug 3, 2009. 8:23 PMrnmoose says:
Here's the beauty of distilling. The mash will begin to boil off the alcohol at 173* F and will slowly rise until the alcohol is boiled off, then it will shoot on up to 212* F. BUT the mash will not get into water's boiling temp until the alcohol is boiled off. If you heat it slowly and monitor the temp, you will have a potent product.

Just discard any liquid that comes through before the 173* F temp is reached as it might have methanol in it...POISON. The good stuff is from 173* to 180*. But you can collect distillate up to 205*. Then it is time to turn off the burner.
Apr 28, 2009. 4:27 PMthe rowdyboy says:
im starting up a small system now and attached my stainless kettle to the 15mm copper pipe with an oven cement. dont want to ruin the batch or make something poisonous ...so is oven cement gonna react with my product. am about to change the diameter of pipe anyway up to 42mm feeding off kettle but want to know how to attach safely .
Apr 18, 2009. 9:07 AMlouie1010 says:
Here are the pics.
Aug 12, 2009. 4:32 PMSluggo1 says:
Hard to tell on the pic, do you have ice in the bucket for the condensing coil?
Apr 28, 2009. 4:47 PMthe rowdyboy says:
i cant tell but it looks like aluminium cooker to me , if it is dont do it . i read use only copper or stainless steel.who needs a 2 day hangover .
Aug 3, 2009. 8:14 PMrnmoose says:
Aluminum doesn't harm you or make moonshine harmful. The reason true blue bootleggers use copper....and your legal distilleries, is that copper is supposed to impart a molecular level goodness on the alcohol vapors. Simply put: Copper in the still makes the shine taste better.
Aug 21, 2009. 3:38 PMBuckyOHare says:
Aluminium increases risk of Alzeihmer's, there will be trace amounts from distilling or cooking, small amounts but still harmful, aluminium is also found in deodorant, going straight into your bloodstream through the pores of your armpit. Use stainless steel or copper for cooking and distilling.
Aug 21, 2009. 6:51 PMrnmoose says:
There is circumstantial evidence linking aluminum with Alzheimer's disease, but no causal relationship has yet been proved. As evidence for other causes continues to grow, a possible link with aluminum seems increasingly unlikely.

http://alzheimers.org.uk/factsheet/406

How many aluminum pots, pans, cookie sheets, pie plates etc. does the average human eat from over the course of his/her life?

Use stainless steel or food grade plastic to ferment, but do not be afraid to convert that old aluminum pressure cooker to a still.
Mar 21, 2010. 12:33 PMbluesharp1359 says:
 Use aluminum at your own risk. Drink it if you want, just don't give it to anybody else. High percentage alcohol will cause aluminum to pit, and even microscopically some of it will end up in your hooch. 

I advise going over to the distillers forum (just Google it) and read about aluminum and what the pros say.

In short, don't use it.
Mar 21, 2010. 2:24 PMrnmoose says:
Heck, better say, "Drink alcohol at your own risk."  Alcohol is a poison by itself in the fact that it can cause harm to the organism than consumes it.  You can kill yourself from off the shelf drink as easily as homemade drink.  Just consume too much or take in conjunction with any psychotropic medication.  If all you are running your shine through is an aluminum pot then you shouldn't be worried.

Now, if you are condensing it in an old copper radiator or throwing a battery in the mix or some dynamite to add kick, then you are surely dancing with danger.

Aluminum is everywhere.  We eat it, drink it, inhale it.  Every take a TUMS?  You ate aluminum. 


Mar 21, 2010. 4:47 PMbluesharp1359 says:
 Sorry Moose, but you're flat wrong. And that analogy is just silly. I hear drinking gasoline is bad for you too.

I advise everyone to avoid aluminum if they're building a device of this sort. It's flat out dangerous and could screw you up bad and/or kill you. Yes, aluminum is everywhere, but it doesn't always have 190 proof alcohol in it.

Seriously, for anybody reading this, and considering a build, check out homedistillersforum,org for the truth of the matter. Those guys have decades of experience - the real pros - and every last one of them will tell you to NEVER use an aluminum pot. Stainless steel or copper only . . . and the same goes for your tubing. Also stay away from ANY sort of plastic jugs or rubber gaskets when distilling. High proofs will leach chemicals in the plastic/rubber into your mix.
Aug 14, 2011. 8:36 PMcunningfellow says:
The aluminum pot doesn't have 190 proof alcohol in it - that comes out of the copper pipe at the other end. The pot has perhaps 5% - 10% alcohol in it at the beginning, and as the alcohol distils off, that percentage gets weaker.

As the price of copper has risen, go and see what they're selling at the hardware shop now for water pipes (at least in Europe and Australia and China from my own eyes). New water pipe is aluminum.

But your advice is well meant, and taken in good spirit by those who want to take it. Don't get upset when people don't take your advice. If people always took advice, then Columbus would never have sailed West.
Aug 15, 2011. 5:17 AMrnmoose says:
I don't get upset. Thanks for the supportive post.
Aug 1, 2011. 2:49 PMTim Temple says:
Oops! homedistillersforum.org didn't survive; not enough aluminum in their diet!
Mar 21, 2010. 6:27 PMrnmoose says:
What am I wrong about?  Am I wrong that you consume small amounts of aluminum daily and sometimes larger doses in over the counter medication?  Am I wrong that you can kill yourself with too much of any alcohol or a little alcohol and medication mixes?  Am I wrong that you can kill yourself using old car radiators to condense the alcohol vapor?

I didn't make an analogy.  What I am saying is that, you mildly poison yourself every time you drink alcohol and that you cannot escape consuming aluminum.  The short time that you use the aluminum pressure cooker to distill the alcohol will not poison a person with aluminum.   I'd dare say a swig of Mylanta has more aluminum than your whole bottle of liquor distilled in an aluminum pressure cooker.

If you have a stainless steel pressure cooker, then use it.  But do not scare those who have been driven to distillation by exorbitant alcohol taxes away from aluminum pressure cookers.  A lot of people who experiment with distilling do so because money is tight.  A new stainless steel pressure cooker is not in the budget. 

I would avoid lead at all costs, even doing without alcohol, but I will not be scared away from my aluminum pressure cooker.  

By the way, when I put my mash in the pressure cooker, it is no where near 190 proof.  More like 30 proof.  I heat it to boil off the alcohol which is taken into a copper pipe and condensed into a glass jar. 


Mar 21, 2010. 7:28 PMbluesharp1359 says:
Hey, kill yourself if you want. If dogmatic argument is more important to you than and doing things right, and more important than your health, then be my guest.

For everyone else, I urge you NOT to use aluminum pots. Further, don't believe me at face value either. jSimply go to homedistillers.org and learn the truth. Read and ask questions of the folks there. Then, if you still think a couple thousand, seasoned distillery experts are wrong, that's your business. It's not like I'm going to be drinking your product.

Moose, it's better to admit you're wrong, and learn something, then to just keep arguing when you've no idea what you're talking about. If you only have 30 proof then you've just doing one run. That's pretty heavy hangover juice, full of fusel oils and impurities. Hope you are pouring off the heads (the first 50 ml). That's almost pure methyl alcohol. Pour off the tails (last part of the run) as well. If you re-run the distillate about three more times it will purify and be at around 90% alcohol.

This is the last time I'm responding, since you seem to have all the answers.



Mar 21, 2010. 8:36 PMrnmoose says:
bluesharp1350

I think it is hilarious to accuse me of not knowing what I am talking about when you have no idea who I am and what my experience is. 

For all you know I might be one of the "experts" on homedistillers.org.

Thank you for the two sided argument, though.  This will actually do more good than harm, because it will prompt people to seek the truth and not to simply take an internet posts advice.

Cheers and happy moonshine making.


Jul 26, 2010. 10:03 PMmlampkin says:
Ok then, just my take on things...

Fermentation will produce sulfides, especially if doing a fast fermentatio at high temps... and those sulphides do not ( or minimally ) interact with stainless steel... and a full stainless set-up can result in a "sulphur" taste because it passes thru the system / distillation...

On the other hand, with a stainless boiler and a copper coil / column... as the sulfides pass through the tube / tower they will interact and bind with copper removing them... carrying no taste from the boiler and actually cleaning it some through the coil... this is part of the reason I and others pack our columns with copper mesh / scrubbies...

On the other hand, with a ( clean ) aluminum boiler... the same sulphides will interact ( albeit minimally ) with aluminum... once this happens those ( simplifying here ) aluminum sulfides will be carried through the column into the end product... and while the sulfur taste will be gone, you could end up with a distillate imparted with a bit of a "metallic" taste...

Having said that - I do prefer a stainless boiler with copper on the condenser... and would not be interested in even tasting the first couple of batches from an aluminum pot... But if an aluminum boiler is used a few times it will oxidize and get a nice 'crust'... and if you do NOT scrub it so its nice and bright and shiny - it wil no longer easily react with whatever is heated in it... you should be good to go...

In other words... If you are starting from scratch, want to be 100% safe ( and are worried about aluminum or sulphide compounds ) and partake of anything and everthing that comes from your still - then I would hazard to say that bluesharp is correct i.e. stainless boiler and copper column...

On the other hand... if you have an aluminum boiler / pressure cooker... aren't going nuts scrubbing it out every use and let it crust up... after the first few batches - there shouldn't be any worries there either...

Btw - I did the ( aluminum ) pressure cooker thing when I was 14... a pot with a big ole crust of calcium and other minerals in it ( we had water from a well )... and it turned out ok for all involved... at least until the morning after my friends and I decided to drink it all... Oops.
Apr 28, 2009. 4:48 PMthe rowdyboy says:
nice looking system though.
Apr 19, 2009. 1:44 PMlouie1010 says:
Yep troubleshooting got it, it's important to have a good seal on cooker and outlet as well as condensor going down hill thank for your help.
Apr 21, 2009. 1:35 PMlouie1010 says:
10 lbs. sugar 2 cups corn meal 1 big bag of turbo yeast first jar made 80 proof
Apr 21, 2009. 3:12 PMlouie1010 says:
Tastes rough 80% not proof, finished with 40%

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