How to power your bike with a whippersnipper motor

 by b-train
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This Instructable will show you how to modify your push bike with a small motor so you wont have to pedal as much and look a whole load cooler! I made mine using a really old kawasaki whipper snipper (weed whacker for you Americans) motor. I could get about 40kmh along a flat with no pedalling and an easy 55kmh down a slight slope, I could go faster than traffic!

this is intended for the Instructables Bike Month of May contest, so please vote, I would really like to get a t-shirt. they are cool.

I'm not responsible if you hurt yourself/others/things/stuff in anyway. Also if you make something that is illegal and get caught don't come running to me, its up to you to check the regulations in your area for motorised pushbike.

This is also my 2nd Instructable so please be constructive and supportive.
 
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Step 1: Stuff you need

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I made this bike modification with few tools, materials. You just need to think about what you doing and what you want to achieve.

you will need:

  • a bike (any will do, but the simpler is best ie. no rear shocks and stuff because it just complicates things, although still possible)
  • a motor of some kind, preferably small but with a fair bit of power, a clutch is nice because you can ride it normally without the motor on, although still possible without. and if it has mounting holes or something that will make it easy to strap on your bike. I used a small 2 stroke whipper snipper motor made by kawasaki, bit gutless as I'm 85kgs but I had a bigger carburettor on it before when I was mucking around with it.
  • a bit of thick plate to use as the mounting plate/bracket. thick stuff is good because it hold your motor nice a steady.
  • a roller/driver shaft to run on the back wheel to transfer power to the wheel. size is important as it affects gearing and therefore final speed. I did the math and figured out it needed to be bout an 25mm - 40mm in diameter to get around 40-50kmh
  • welder
  • grinder
  • miscellaneous, tooling, ie screwdrivers, spanners, persuasion tools (big hammer and shifting spanner)
  • an oxy-acetalyne set is nice to bend your plate if it needs it
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tonroh17 says: Apr 18, 2013. 9:24 PM
i made one with a 1300 cc harley engine and i died
tonroh17 says: Apr 17, 2013. 11:01 PM
are u an aussie
mikamark says: Apr 1, 2012. 1:21 AM
is mounting the motor where you r putting it efficient? does it work as good as other ways? will it last without breaking? and for how long?
thx help will be appreciated :) :)
IgnorantZebra says: Nov 16, 2009. 4:57 PM
will this work with a lawnmower motor?
DeeStructables in reply to IgnorantZebraOct 11, 2010. 1:27 AM
Althought this is an old post, it is for anyone else considering the same thing.

In short, no. Because motors used in "most" ( I say most because i have not seen every single lawn mower in the world) run direct- drive to the rotating blade.

The blade is spinning on the wrong axis, and although some simple gearing may solve this issue, i do not recommend it without proffesional machinery.

Basically, the lawn mower's carb is set 'sideways' (in comparison to the direciton of driver) , and because "most" lawn mower use float carbs, it will not work if you flip it to over to drive your wheels.

Did that make any sense?

Country Dude's idea may work but it seems sort of like a lop-sided baseball pitching machine...
tecno geek in reply to DeeStructablesMar 13, 2012. 7:06 PM
First of all great comment! And it was wise of you to say "most". There are some Honda push-mowers with blade clutches and heavy flywheels so you can turn off the blade on back on again whenever you want. (without turning off the engine)
DanteDante in reply to DeeStructablesJun 29, 2011. 8:46 AM
This past weekend I was looking at a rear drive self propelled lawn mower thinking "I cna make this work!" The main shaft has a belt wheel mounted on it, belt connects to the back of the mower to the gearbox by the rear wheel. All mechanical parts are there, would just need to be re-worked for the bike.
sebseb in reply to IgnorantZebraDec 7, 2009. 3:47 AM
You can if it is a 2 stroke but the problem is some carby's only work at one angle, so the fun part is trying to rotate it so it works with the motor running a horizontal axis.
Country dude in reply to sebsebJul 14, 2010. 7:04 AM
all you hafto do is put a rubber disk on the shaft and mount it so the rubber disks are on the left or right side of the wheel (dependent on which way the engine rotates) and use a spring to apply pressure horizontaly not vertically
MACKattacksnipe in reply to IgnorantZebraDec 4, 2009. 4:15 PM
no
Lemon102 says: Feb 4, 2012. 11:18 PM
Would this work better on a mountain bike with gears?

Cheers,
Lemon
alterator says: Jul 31, 2011. 4:43 PM
nice build, but I would have made direct drive.. roller thing replace with a sprocket, chain longer and threaded through everything. to join motor rear wheel and pedals.
duh-man says: Apr 6, 2010. 7:14 AM
CTGee in reply to duh-manJul 31, 2011. 11:21 AM
No. It is a Whipper Snipper.
11richie21 says: Jun 13, 2011. 2:05 PM
do all gas motors spin the same direction? I have a gas motor from a leaf blower but i dont know which side of the bike i should mount it on
Electroinnovation in reply to 11richie21Jun 17, 2011. 2:39 PM
Lol no they don't just start it up and see which way it spins. There's nothing worse than only being able to go in reverse so make sure you check your actual motor ;P
Bosun Rick says: Oct 11, 2010. 9:23 PM
Just a dumb question here; Why did either of you just adapt a chain drive from the motor down to the stock bicycle chain? You would get much better speed, choices of gearing (depending on the bike's sprocket set), and less tire wear! An adjustable idler sprocket would keep the chain tightened (add a weight & it could become self adjusting). Nice Instructable, but these might be hints for a "New & Improved" version.
DanteDante in reply to Bosun RickJun 16, 2011. 9:22 AM
BosunRick - this idea is intriguing to me... do I understand it correctly in that the chain path would then be triangle shaped?

I'm not knocking your idea at all, in fact I like it very much, I'm just hashing it out. So... My understanding of bike gearing is basic, but it seems that if the chain traveled under the rear sprocket and then straight up to the engine, there might not be enough chain contact with the rear sprocket. Hmm...

Also, if the chain traveling at a down angle, from the engine to the front derailleur, it might interfere with the front derailleur operation.

But I suppose the motor could be mounted inside the frame instead of over the back tire... I guess that's what motorcycles do... Wow... this changes everything in my plan! Great suggestion!

zilcho in reply to Bosun RickApr 28, 2011. 10:40 PM
I thought of that to but then i realized that the pedals would be spinning at like a zillion miles an hour.
handyhippie65 in reply to zilchoNov 19, 2011. 8:18 PM
ross bicycles used to make a ten speed that had a freewheel clutch in the front cranks. it was so you could shift while not pedaling. if you could find one of them, they would let you hook an engine up and still use the shifters. i put a 3hp briggs engine on one when i was a kid in the '80's. i could get that 10 speed going faster than i really wanted to go, wanting to live and all.
Bosun Rick in reply to zilchoMay 22, 2011. 6:29 AM
If you run it on a chain drive, you can take the pedal drive parts out of the project.
hightekrednek2396 in reply to Bosun RickMar 10, 2011. 8:33 PM
too much work for that i was going to try that when i did mine but getting to align right was to much work for most diters so friction is easier
DanteDante says: Jun 16, 2011. 9:03 AM
This is ridiculously awesome. Good Instructable!

I'm in the early stages of building one of these right now. Unfortunately, I don't have a welder (yet), so the process of finding just the right parts to mount the motor is taking longer than I'd hoped. I think I'd like to incorporate the engine kill switch... you know, because it's there... So why not?

I also like the idea of using spring tension to hold the drive shaft against the tire... but I wonder: would there be much benefit to having an additional wire cable running from the rear brake lever so that, when squeezed, it would simultaneously apply the rear brake, and also pivot the motor & drive shaft slightly off the tire?

Anyway, I have 5 old bikes and 3 old motors to work with, so I'm sure I can cobble something indescribably unsafe together pretty soon.
Wareagle says: Apr 24, 2011. 7:37 AM
I am building one of these, but i ran into a problem. how do you keep the bike peg from unthreading itself when its on the bike?
Jaycub in reply to WareagleMay 4, 2011. 4:40 PM
You could put some JB weld on the threads.
pogoman12345 says: Mar 21, 2011. 1:23 PM
now i just gotta find a weed wacker...
mista.v says: Jan 17, 2011. 5:52 PM
What about a killswitch or some kind of clutch to disengage?
b-train (author) in reply to mista.vJan 21, 2011. 7:57 PM
Theres an ignition killswitch on the front of the engine near the pull start, and it has a centrifugal clutch built in.
KiW says: Oct 3, 2010. 1:30 PM
WOW, thats just cool, I wanna have it too, but then you got the problem... cops... law... here in holland they dont allow your to drive on cool stuf only borring things are allowed here... damn still gonna do it with a cycle I have left some hwere in the middle of no where. thanks dude looks cool!
boahen collins kwadwo says: Jul 26, 2010. 7:33 AM
In fact that is a great performance. keep it up. but please could you explain to me the mechanism involved . how the motor is able to power the bicycle wise_coleman@yahoo.com
finnrambo says: Apr 20, 2009. 11:43 PM
Great instructable except how do you use nitro.
Country dude in reply to finnramboJul 14, 2010. 7:09 AM
that made my day! lol shoot some ether direct into the carb! my sisters boyfriend had a little mini bike that they ran of jack daniels and windshield wiper fluid for a week
guitarwizard94 says: May 28, 2010. 2:55 PM
Props on making this and doing it soo well... One question though, do you find it heavy on the one side? I am really looking a making one and yours is the only instructable on here :L Thanks for all the help!
b-train (author) in reply to guitarwizard94Jul 1, 2010. 11:42 PM
I weigh around 90Kgs and the motor is about 10kgs, so i dont really notice the difference.
lpletikosic says: Jul 1, 2010. 12:25 PM
can you control speed on this
b-train (author) in reply to lpletikosicJul 1, 2010. 11:41 PM
Yep, just rev the motor or pedal faster.
TSC says: Jun 7, 2010. 6:04 PM
Nice!!!!!!
tsulvin says: Apr 24, 2010. 8:13 PM
that's tight
frixx says: Feb 15, 2009. 1:04 PM
what is a whippersnipper motor? my translator wont translate it plz help thx
duh-man in reply to frixxApr 6, 2010. 7:12 AM
a weed wacker motor
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