Step 3: The Drive shaft/roller

this is the piece that transfers the power from the engine to the wheel. I had lots of ideas about this, including using bike pegs, making my own, scooter wheels etc ( I saw someone use a socket and it slipped against the wheel and didn't work at all if he went through a puddle)

I had sum bike pegs I was going to use but they had imperial threads and my clutch used a metric thread and I didn't want to make an adapter so I decided to make my own.

I needed a lathe to make my own but so dad knew a bloke with one and he made it for me. it fit nicely into my clutch housing and threaded right into it.

the size of the shaft/roller matters as it affects the gearing of you bike. you will need to work out revs of your motor, size of your back wheel, how fast you want to go etc, to decide on the size of the roller.
<p>I built it but without friction drive but with direct drive.</p><p>I even have video of it on youtube :D</p><p><iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="281" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/dGsBK8GrPAk" width="500"></iframe></p><p>enjoy :D</p>
<p>Do you sale the clutch roller thing?</p>
<p><a href="http://roadsafety.transport.nsw.gov.au/stayingsafe/bicyclists/petrol-powered-bicycles.html" rel="nofollow">http://roadsafety.transport.nsw.gov.au/stayingsafe/bicyclists/petrol-powered-bicycles.html</a></p><p>Not legal to ride on NSW roads.</p>
I am building one of these, but i ran into a problem. how do you keep the bike peg from unthreading itself when its on the bike?
<p>if its going the right way it will tighten itself</p><p>thats how it is on minethat i built</p>
You could put some JB weld on the threads.
i made one with a 1300 cc harley engine and i died
are u an aussie
is mounting the motor where you r putting it efficient? does it work as good as other ways? will it last without breaking? and for how long? <br>thx help will be appreciated :) :)
will this work with a lawnmower motor?<br />
Althought this is an old post, it is for anyone else considering the same thing. <br> <br>In short, no. Because motors used in &quot;most&quot; ( I say most because i have not seen every single lawn mower in the world) run direct- drive to the rotating blade. <br> <br>The blade is spinning on the wrong axis, and although some simple gearing may solve this issue, i do not recommend it without proffesional machinery. <br> <br>Basically, the lawn mower's carb is set 'sideways' (in comparison to the direciton of driver) , and because &quot;most&quot; lawn mower use float carbs, it will not work if you flip it to over to drive your wheels. <br> <br>Did that make any sense? <br> <br>Country Dude's idea may work but it seems sort of like a lop-sided baseball pitching machine...
First of all great comment! And it was wise of you to say &quot;most&quot;. There are some Honda push-mowers with blade clutches and heavy flywheels so you can turn off the blade on back on again whenever you want. (without turning off the engine)
This past weekend I was looking at a rear drive self propelled lawn mower thinking &quot;I cna make this work!&quot; The main shaft has a belt wheel mounted on it, belt connects to the back of the mower to the gearbox by the rear wheel. All mechanical parts are there, would just need to be re-worked for the bike.
You can if it is a 2 stroke but the problem is some carby's only work at one angle, so the fun part is trying to rotate it so it works with the motor running a horizontal axis.<br />
all you hafto do is put a rubber disk on the shaft and mount it so the rubber disks are on the left or right side of the wheel (dependent on which way the engine rotates) and use a spring to apply pressure horizontaly not vertically
no<br />
Would this work better on a mountain bike with gears? <br> <br>Cheers, <br>Lemon
Just a dumb question here; Why did either of you just adapt a chain drive from the motor down to the stock bicycle chain? You would get much better speed, choices of gearing (depending on the bike's sprocket set), and less tire wear! An adjustable idler sprocket would keep the chain tightened (add a weight &amp; it could become self adjusting). Nice Instructable, but these might be hints for a &quot;New &amp; Improved&quot; version.
I thought of that to but then i realized that the pedals would be spinning at like a zillion miles an hour.
ross bicycles used to make a ten speed that had a freewheel clutch in the front cranks. it was so you could shift while not pedaling. if you could find one of them, they would let you hook an engine up and still use the shifters. i put a 3hp briggs engine on one when i was a kid in the '80's. i could get that 10 speed going faster than i really wanted to go, wanting to live and all.
If you run it on a chain drive, you can take the pedal drive parts out of the project.
BosunRick - this idea is intriguing to me... do I understand it correctly in that the chain path would then be triangle shaped? <br><br>I'm not knocking your idea at all, in fact I like it very much, I'm just hashing it out. So... My understanding of bike gearing is basic, but it seems that if the chain traveled under the rear sprocket and then straight up to the engine, there might not be enough chain contact with the rear sprocket. Hmm...<br><br>Also, if the chain traveling at a down angle, from the engine to the front derailleur, it might interfere with the front derailleur operation. <br><br>But I suppose the motor could be mounted inside the frame instead of over the back tire... I guess that's what motorcycles do... Wow... this changes everything in my plan! Great suggestion!<br><br>
too much work for that i was going to try that when i did mine but getting to align right was to much work for most diters so friction is easier
nice build, but I would have made direct drive.. roller thing replace with a sprocket, chain longer and threaded through everything. to join motor rear wheel and pedals.
<strong><span id="1270563253159S" style="display: none;">&nbsp;isn't it a whipper snapper motor? not whipper snipper.<br /> and where is that 1 from?</span></strong>
No. It is a Whipper Snipper.
do all gas motors spin the same direction? I have a gas motor from a leaf blower but i dont know which side of the bike i should mount it on
Lol no they don't just start it up and see which way it spins. There's nothing worse than only being able to go in reverse so make sure you check your actual motor ;P
This is ridiculously awesome. Good Instructable!<br><br>I'm in the early stages of building one of these right now. Unfortunately, I don't have a welder (yet), so the process of finding just the right parts to mount the motor is taking longer than I'd hoped. I think I'd like to incorporate the engine kill switch... you know, because it's there... So why not?<br><br>I also like the idea of using spring tension to hold the drive shaft against the tire... but I wonder: would there be much benefit to having an additional wire cable running from the rear brake lever so that, when squeezed, it would simultaneously apply the rear brake, and also pivot the motor &amp; drive shaft slightly off the tire? <br><br>Anyway, I have 5 old bikes and 3 old motors to work with, so I'm sure I can cobble something indescribably unsafe together pretty soon.
now i just gotta find a weed wacker...
What about a killswitch or some kind of clutch to disengage?
Theres an ignition killswitch on the front of the engine near the pull start, and it has a centrifugal clutch built in.
WOW, thats just cool, I wanna have it too, but then you got the problem... cops... law... here in holland they dont allow your to drive on cool stuf only borring things are allowed here... damn still gonna do it with a cycle I have left some hwere in the middle of no where. thanks dude looks cool!
what is a whippersnipper motor? my translator wont translate it plz help thx
weed whacker, weed trimmer, weed eater, same thing
there is also weed strimmer
a&nbsp;weed wacker motor
&lt;a rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; href=&quot;http://www.melbournesmowercentre.com.au/images/Category/38.jpeg&quot;&gt;http://www.melbournesmowercentre.com.au/images/Category/38.jpeg&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The above link/address will show you what it is&lt;br/&gt;<br/>
haha its a motor that powers a whippersnipper. a whipper snipper is also know as a weed wacker, its a motor with a long driveshaft pole and a rotating wire/cord on the bottom which spins n cuts grass
In fact that is a great performance. keep it up. but please could you explain to me the mechanism involved . how the motor is able to power the bicycle wise_coleman@yahoo.com
Great instructable except how do you use nitro.
that made my day! lol shoot some ether direct into the carb! my sisters boyfriend had a little mini bike that they ran of jack daniels and windshield wiper fluid for a week
Props on making this and doing it soo well... One question though, do you find it heavy on the one side? I am really looking a making one and yours is the only instructable on here :L Thanks for all the help!
I weigh around 90Kgs and the motor is about 10kgs, so i dont really notice the difference.
can you control speed on this
Yep, just rev the motor or pedal faster.
that's tight<br />
As for making the motor adjustable for the tension on the back tire I&nbsp;would think you could make one of the mount holes in an oblong shape so that one bolt could be slid back and forth on it and the other would be your pivot point.&nbsp; Imagine an alternator mounting bracket on a car if you will.
Correct, I could have made it adjustable but it would have been more difficult that you describe.<br /> <br /> I&nbsp;did think of cutting a slot in one of the mounts, however if you look at a close up of the clutch bolted to the mounts, you will notice the that there is a very small flat circle that the bolt can fit on and around that is sloped, and if you slide the clutch through the slot it fouls on the slope.<br /> <br /> You would have to make an adapter for the clutch that would allow it to slide, or build a clutch housing, or you just get a motor that will fit right.<br /> <br /> Cheers<br />

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