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How to save the world!!!

How to save the world!!!
Well, the time has come. I have been holding on to this plan for a while hoping to make some serious dough, but alas, I must let it go in hopes that it gets done. The world is more important that paying off my student loans.

ps If anyone want to make this happen, throw me a bone, or at least give me credit.
 
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Step 1Fuel of the future now

Fuel of the future now
Well, so I might not be able to solve every problem all at once, so I'll get specific. I'm and talking about energy and transportation.

If you want the real energy/transportation solution it would require everyone living a life style that they don't like, so we'll have to do the next best thing.

I'm not talking about electric, hydrogen, hybrids, veggie oil, or biodiesel. I don't expect everyone to walk to work either. I am talking about ethanol. Oooooh, I know its a bad things, but hear me out. And I am going to call it Fuel Alcohol from this point on.

The fuel of the future is domestically produced fuel alcohol(AKA ethanol)
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Jul 17, 2010. 1:08 PMmatthew127 says:
Check out hydrogen on demand
Jun 30, 2009. 1:00 PMbriackman says:
I don't think ethanol is a good fuel, partially because it needs water, then we are depleting another resource, and we aren't even ready for desaltinzation, or whatever we do to turn ocean water into fresh water, plus I don't believe in hydrogen, which means two other alternatives, but biofuel also water so I'll go with electric (P.S. electric cars are maintenance free, while internal combustion engines are relativley expensive to maintain)
Aug 18, 2009. 7:40 PMPakmiran says:
Unfortunately, electric cars have their considerable downsides as well. First of all, the electricity required to charge them is created by power plants, and the power plants that pump out the most (and the most reliable) power are fueled by oil, coal, or natural gas. Renewable energy has yet to be developed widely enough to provide the amount of energy required to fuel an entire economy based on electric cars. The other nasty is about the batteries. Admittedly, internal combustion vehicles have batteries as well, but an electric car must choose between larger battery banks or decreased range. Those batteries are ecological disasters, often containing lead, always containing caustic acids, and (with the newer ones) housing highly reactive elements. The final problem is one I've already mentioned, and that's range. Most electric cars have a range of anywhere from sixty to a hundred miles--barely enough for a two-hour round trip. While that may be enough for some, it has serious limitations. So electric needs a lot of work, too.
Aug 23, 2009. 7:57 AMTehBeastDooD says:
Well... this is a great idea, but I know people who are already developing HYDROGEN fuel from water. 100 percent safe, and the output... is water... completely reusable and you can use either salt water or freshwater. also, it also uses oxygen in the water. when the water is evaporated, the gases come back. much better miles per gallon too.
May 15, 2009. 8:14 AMsharlston says:
you can use a fuel magnet befre my dads car ran 21mpg now its 32mpg
Sep 14, 2008. 10:37 AMLancePenney says:
Ok economicly this is a great idea but ethanol is not really a clean burning fuel. For every molecule of ethanol that is produced by fermentation, two molecules of CO2 are produced...and we havent even burned it yet. We're still going to have a big problem with global warmng due to the greenhouse gases. Also, we will still produce some smog because of burned oil from the IC engines. I believe that we're all going to have to get all of our energy from the wind and sun. Every household will need to generate their own electricity to power either electric cars, or to make hydrogen for hydrogen cars.
Apr 13, 2009. 10:22 AMYeldarbNoj says:
Have you considered the CO2 output from the production of batteries for an electric car? The CO2 produced by fermentation is canceled out by the CO2 stored by the growth of the plant in the first place. Next years crop will reabsorb the CO2 produced by this years fermentation. And I might add that the air coming out of an alcohol burning engine is much cleaner than the average air going in...so... it is actually cleaning the smog from the air. Hydrogen is good; but we're not there yet, there is still the electricity needed to break the HH-O bond. Nuclear would be the most "green." My question is how much energy are we using to produce the alcohol? It seems to defeat the CO2 emissions gain, but I would prefer to use a wood fueled "continuous still" because I'm not a global warming sycophant. Wood is easy to come by in Montana.
Feb 2, 2009. 12:03 PMhfg666 says:
Obviously.. ethanol fueled cars is NOT the future. A BIG NONO!

Because combustion = carbon, and carbon = bad, thats not how you save the world.

The future is Electric cars, fueled with electricity, that comes from the SUN! YES!
(or wind, or any REAL renewable energy source!)
Apr 6, 2009. 1:04 PMPixel_Master says:
Well, for now, the ethanol powered cars are a better solution because it works better than solar powered cars (at least now, since they only work in full sunlight). Maybe later in the future, when solar cells/panels are much more effective, maybe then we could use Solar cars more often. But as of now, this method with ethanol is ALOT better.
Mar 6, 2009. 10:31 AMpopman says:
the carbon in the air is drawn into the plants when they grow and burning them would produce no more carbon hen taken away from the atmosphere.

let me put it this way is this extra carbon going to come from?
Apr 6, 2009. 1:06 PMPixel_Master says:
And don't forget that you also have to breath in a certain amount of CO2, since breathing too much pure oxygen would give you constant headaches, and just wouldn't be good for you.
Mar 10, 2009. 5:41 PMEnigmaMax says:
I saved the world!!!
Nov 18, 2008. 10:49 AMGuy.Fawkes says:
@cjpmann: killerjackalope explains that alcohol is made from food crops, and that's why (he thinks) it's not the solution. Instead of backing up your opinion, you provide a link to a commercial Web site that makes money from promoting alcohol as a fuel. Do you have any actual facts to support your position, and can you refute the obvious fact that using food crops to produce fuel will reduce the amount of available food?
Nov 14, 2008. 9:44 PMintegrator says:
I don't know if your numbers add up either, but generally speaking, in makes sense. You can tell some people that commented didn't actually read it, and some people read the opposite somewhere, and that'must be the gospel truth. Open mind people. Check facts, not news stories. Then check the facts again.
Nov 14, 2008. 6:50 PMIfer says:
Wonderful! Now all we need to do is get governmental people to read this, and we can get started!
Oct 23, 2008. 5:16 PMmattsanford says:
Many kinds of hydrogen production release carbondioxide as well though. There are worse greenhouse gases then CO2 though, I think methane is one of them. Of course we need some greenhouse gases to keep our planet from freezing, just finding the balance is what is our problem. It seems that using wind, solar & hydro power in order to generate other sources of higher energy fuels may be the best bet, and I gotta say that is very impressive to remove the starch from corn before feeding the animals (and reduce the methane), and is the right road to start on for our oil addicted society.
Oct 23, 2008. 5:03 PMmattsanford says:
The other thing that drives up the price of the food is speculators - "corn will be used for fuel so let's charge more!" is the line of thought...
Sep 8, 2008. 7:11 PMbobbycox says:
Very interesting information. I live in the corn belt. I also live in an area with several ethanol plants. Anyone who still claims we are trading "food for fuel" in this process has never talked to a corn producer or a cattle producer. They have also never walked through a cow pasture. I have done all three. Often whole corn passes through a cow just like it passes through a human, virtually untouched. Farmers for the first time in decades are making a profit from corn rather than from government handouts and cattle operations are thrilled to feed DDGs to the cows. As rimar2000 said "I don't know if your numbers are correct, but I think the general idea is correct."
Aug 24, 2008. 5:32 PMcjpmann says:
killerjackalope, you are wrong. Alcohol IS the answer.
http://www.alcoholcanbeagas.net/

Aug 17, 2008. 1:52 PMJettyMae says:
well I do not believe that ethonal will be a good fuel; its dirty and takes so much energy to process it almost not worth it in the end. I also think that it will make mass production even more promenit which won't help the situation to save the earth! I believe in small family farms, not big industrial ones. Overall I believe that using renewable resources are good; but ones that don't take humans to subside; like wind or water, solar power is good too. and also just spreading awareness about our impact can never hurt in the least.
Aug 17, 2008. 12:09 AMmacgyvermoose says:
I believe in this plan its just that the disbelievers of our society won't let it happen. Some of the comments made here are very good examples of the brain washing that has taken place through the guise of news networks and other forms of media. Those who are unwilling to see the truth of it can't even accept that their tastes in clothes are determined by what the consumer driven economy has decided is right to wear. Beyond that though is evidence of a deep rooted paranoia that if the economy were to improve it wouldn't be long before it got worse than before. While this seems to be the historical trend it is only because of those who have lost faith in their country. Indeed if Americans could only learn to believe and take pride in what used to be a great country then perhaps it could be true once more.
Aug 8, 2008. 7:31 AMenzoluis says:
Where do you get that data? I read in a Saab site that their etanol engines are almost as efficients as they diesel engines, not so far more efficients.
Jul 31, 2008. 3:24 AMKiteman says:
"I have been studying this for years..." - well maybe you ought to check your sources:

"converting rainforests, peatlands, savannas, or grasslands to produce biofuels in Brazil, Southeast Asia and the United States creates a 'biofuel carbon debt' by releasing 17 to 420 times more carbon dioxide than the fossil fuels they replace."
(Reference)

It's all very well saying that the US can supply it's own needs this way, but fuel and GW are global concerns.



You are also wrong to say that the US does not import ethanol - they import it from Brazil because corn-based ethanol costs 50% more than cane-based ethanol.



Biofuels have forced global food prices up by 75% - far more than previously estimated - according to a confidential World Bank report obtained by the Guardian.

The figure emphatically contradicts the US government's claims that plant-derived fuels contribute less than 3% to food-price rises.

First, it has diverted grain away from food for fuel, with over a third of US corn now used to produce ethanol

(Reference)



...I have done the calculations myself...

  • 2-5% of the corn...is eaten by people.
  • Almost 90% ...goes to animals
  • 20% ...is made into alcohol (for fuel)
So, that is how you make it work - you use 115% of the corn grown in the US.



It took me about two minutes to find the data to blow you plans out of the water. I have also provided you with three more references for data than you provided to support your original claims.
Jul 31, 2008. 3:27 PMKiteman says:
What else do you need to revise?
Jul 31, 2008. 3:26 PMKiteman says:
Well done, you've saved the world.

Nice, easy, exactly as you said.

Feel better?

Small thing, you demanded replies give references. Where are yours?

Try and respond without paranoia or attempting sarcasm, please.
Jul 30, 2008. 4:43 AMKiteman says:
Nice idea, but based on a false premise - large amounts of food-grade crops are already being diverted to make ethanol, which has already been shown to be driving up food prices.

In the third world, large areas that were producing food are now producing fuel. Consequence - the locals have no food, and no money to buy it.

Fresh incidences of deforestation are also occurring because of the desire for greater crop-area devoted to ethanol.

I'm all for biofuels, but they must be sourced from agricultural wastes, not redirected foods. Ferment animal manure to obtain methane. Burn the stems of the corn. Use hydroponics to grow algae for oil, then feed the solid wastes to cattle (it's high in protein).

But corn or maize for alcohol? Bad news.
Jul 30, 2008. 6:49 PMTool Using Animal says:
And the problem with using agricultural waste is that it leads to depletion of the soil and erosion, increasing reliance on synthetic fertilizers.
Jul 30, 2008. 11:30 AMPS118 says:
Good information. And I'm a huge fan of the idea of getting away from petroleum. (For sheer interest in defunding terrorism, if nothing else!) Unfortunately Ethenol won't save anybody a single red cent due to increased food cost, and the fact that its journey to your gas tank goes through the same oil conglomerates that already know what you're willing to spend. Also, it still involves burning a carbon compound. That means there are still pollutants (though far less of them) produced. Does that mean we shouldn't bother? No. It just means it's not the solution that will "save the world". I guess we just have to wait for an instructable on a better way. ;)
Jul 30, 2008. 7:26 AMll.13 says:
I'm waiting for the Apocalypse.
Jul 30, 2008. 5:32 AMrimar2000 says:
I don't know if your numbers are correct, but I think the general idea is correct. The true problem is to sow and to grow the idea. Nothing can be made with 100 or 200 persons, it needs millions with the same objective. Pardon my poor English, I speak Spanish.
Jul 30, 2008. 4:16 AMkillerjackalope says:
Wrong wrong wrong... Alcohol is not a good future fuel, considering it's failings as also being made from a food crop...

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