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How to tie a tie

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This is one of those essential man skills, up there with shaving, and hunting a wild boar with a knife and a stick.

Okay, the last one isn't as essential, unless you happen to be named Rambo and are forced into the hills by a malicious sheriff, but you really should know how to tie a tie.

I'm going to teach you how to tie the two most basic knots, the four in hand and a mystery knot that I thought was a windsor, but which isn't. It is however better than both the half and full windsor, as it's more symmetrical. Upon further investigation, it seems closest to the Pratt knot, but unless someone can tell me differently, I'm just going to call it the Jeff knot.
 
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Step 1: The basics for both knots.....

Lift the collar of your shirt. Place the tie around you neck.

If you're right handed, you'll probably want the thin side on your left. If you're left handed, the opposite.

The wide end should hang lower than the thin one. How much lower is going to depend on the length of the tie, and on your height. Ultimately you'll get the feel for it after bit of trial and error.

Step 2: Four in hand: the beginning

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Cross the wide side over the thin side, bring it around the back, and return it to the front. You'll have made a full loop when you're done.

Step 3: Four in hand: up and through

Pull the wide end up behind the loop you just made, and through the two halves of the tie, as shown in the first photo.

Now take the wide end of the tie, and push it through the front part of the loop. When you're done, it should look like the last picture.

Step 4: Four in hand: fishing touches

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Pull the wide end of the tie down, tightening the knot. Now grab the knot, and the thin side of the tie (the one in the back) and pull upward on the knot to move the tie higher on your neck.
afadhil5 months ago
thanx
jocloud311 year ago
The official notation for your mystery tie would be "Li Co Li Ro Li Co T" or "Left in, Center out, Left in, Right out, Left in, Center out, Tie", which seems to be a yet unnamed knot, according to http://www.tcm.phy.cam.ac.uk/~tmf20/tieknots.shtml (searching for the exact notation above will take you to it's spot on the page".

I like this knot, as it is a tidy, small, symmetrical knot. I'll support calling it the "Jeff Knot"!
Void Schism3 years ago
Ah! I thought that was a half windsor!
Well then, I've been tying a Jeff for years :)
Joanassie3 years ago
The title of this step is fishing touches. Care to fix that, or should I attach some fishing gear to it as if it's a hat?
Otherwise, a fine instructable. 
mensties4 years ago
Hi, thank you for your great post. I really appreciate the efforts you have put here .It is interesting and helpful. Good luck with it!!!
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Warlrosity4 years ago
THANK YOU!! This one actully makes sense, and works! I stuffed up on the first go but now I will try again!
nk975 years ago
Cool Instructable. Now I to can tie my new tie. Someone was going to teach me but I got impatient.
steed11725 years ago
what is the difference between the "four in hand" and the "mystery knot"

if there is one anyways nice instructables (can tie my band new tie now .)
Ph3nomin0n5 years ago
I used to tie my tie (ew) like this and its good in quick situations, however I noticed it wasn't clean and professional looking. Ill be posting an instructable soon on how to correctly tie a tie(ew again).
Pie_eata5 years ago
thanks just tied my first tie (a Green Day American Idiot One at that :D)
Pretty Cool
wyvren cow6 years ago
lol I just used that to tie a duct tape tie, thanks this really helped
dhruvgaara6 years ago
thanx it was handy cuz i needed it for skool you are the best!
lemonie7 years ago
I have thoughs upon publishing 'How to tie a Dilbert tie', maybe I'll do it...
i wanna wear that that sound so cool
jeffreyf (author)  lemonie7 years ago
With wire?
Yes
MR.KNEX6 years ago
hey thanks i can finally tie a tie now.
aneel7 years ago
I agree that the "Mystery" not is not the Half-Windsor or the Pratt. It's not listed in The 85 Ways To Tie a Tie, probably because it doesn't meet their symmetry criterion. If I am following the directions properly, it differs from the Half-Windsor in that its first move is inside-out, rather than outside-in, and the resulting knot has an extra loop around the left-hand side.
jeffreyf (author)  aneel7 years ago
I think you are following the directions correctly, though I find it a lot more symmetrical than either the Windsor, Half Windsor, or the Pratt. All of those result in a fairly lumpy knot, unless one's tie is of very thin fabric. The mystery knot produces a slightly fuller knot than the four in hand, but still results in a a smoother result than the traditional Half Windsor method.
munkey_b0y7 years ago
nice simple instructable. Just one problem, the 'windsor' you have specified it actually only a half-windsor knot. A full windsor requires an extra turn through the neck loop and is really tricky to get the shape right. But it does command a little more repect in the office if you can get used to it. You end up with a nice tight wide angled triangle for the knot that is unmistakable. perhaps this would make a nice addition to this already sound instructable.
jeffreyf (author)  munkey_b0y7 years ago
Quite right! I somehow forgot to do the extra turn while photographing. I'll update! (and get new pictures up shortly.)
just_jeepin7 years ago
I've always just done the 'four in hand' and the knot always looks weird so I'll have to practice the 'windsor'. As for the short end, I usually just tuck it into my shirt (just down from the knot).
meddler7 years ago
You know i've been wanting to learn how to do this for a long time now,clip on ties are getting kind of lame for me. This is simple and straight forward thanks for the info.