## Step 3: Four in Hand: Up and Through

Pull the wide end up behind the loop you just made, and through the two halves of the tie, as shown in the first photo.

Now take the wide end of the tie, and push it through the front part of the loop. When you're done, it should look like the last picture.
<p>I believe this is the buntline hitch. References: </p><p><a href="http://www.animatedknots.com/buntline/" rel="nofollow">http://www.animatedknots.com/buntline/ </a> </p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buntline_hitch" rel="nofollow">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buntline_hitch</a></p>
thanx
The official notation for your mystery tie would be &quot;Li Co Li Ro Li Co T&quot; or &quot;Left in, Center out, Left in, Right out, Left in, Center out, Tie&quot;, which seems to be a yet unnamed knot, according to http://www.tcm.phy.cam.ac.uk/~tmf20/tieknots.shtml (searching for the exact notation above will take you to it's spot on the page&quot;. <br> <br>I like this knot, as it is a tidy, small, symmetrical knot. I'll support calling it the &quot;Jeff Knot&quot;!
Ah! I thought that was a half windsor!<br>Well then, I've been tying a Jeff for years :)
The title of this step is <em>fish</em>ing touches. Care to fix that, or should I attach some fishing gear to it as if it's a hat?<br> Otherwise, a fine instructable.&nbsp;
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THANK&nbsp;YOU!! This one actully makes sense, and works! I stuffed up on the first go but now I will try again!
Cool Instructable. Now I to can tie my new tie. Someone was going to teach me but I got impatient.
what is the difference between the &quot;four in hand&quot; and the &quot;mystery knot&quot;<br/><br/>if there is one anyways nice instructables (can tie my band new tie now <sup>.</sup>)<br/>
I used to tie my tie (ew) like this and its good in quick situations, however I noticed it wasn't clean and professional looking. Ill be posting an instructable soon on how to correctly tie a tie(ew again).
thanks just tied my first tie (a Green Day American Idiot One at that :D)
Pretty Cool
lol I just used that to tie a duct tape tie, thanks this really helped
thanx it was handy cuz i needed it for skool you are the best!
I have thoughs upon publishing 'How to tie a Dilbert tie', <em>maybe</em> I'll do it...<br/>
i wanna wear that that sound so cool
With wire?
Yes
hey thanks i can finally tie a tie now.
I agree that the &quot;Mystery&quot; not is not the Half-Windsor or the Pratt. It's not listed in <em>The 85 Ways To Tie a Tie</em>, probably because it doesn't meet their symmetry criterion. If I am following the directions properly, it differs from the Half-Windsor in that its first move is inside-out, rather than outside-in, and the resulting knot has an extra loop around the left-hand side.<br/>
I think you are following the directions correctly, though I find it a lot more symmetrical than either the Windsor, Half Windsor, or the Pratt. All of those result in a fairly lumpy knot, unless one's tie is of very thin fabric. The mystery knot produces a slightly fuller knot than the four in hand, but still results in a a smoother result than the traditional Half Windsor method.
nice simple instructable. Just one problem, the 'windsor' you have specified it actually only a half-windsor knot. A full windsor requires an extra turn through the neck loop and is really tricky to get the shape right. But it does command a little more repect in the office if you can get used to it. You end up with a nice tight wide angled triangle for the knot that is unmistakable. perhaps this would make a nice addition to this already sound instructable.
Quite right! I somehow forgot to do the extra turn while photographing. I'll update! (and get new pictures up shortly.)
I've always just done the 'four in hand' and the knot always looks weird so I'll have to practice the 'windsor'. As for the short end, I usually just tuck it into my shirt (just down from the knot).
You know i've been wanting to learn how to do this for a long time now,clip on ties are getting kind of lame for me. This is simple and straight forward thanks for the info.