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Improve your DishDVR UHF Remote Control Reception

Our family has a DishDVR. It's changed the way we watch TV, but there was some pain. Remote control #2 communicates with the base unit via UHF, but from our back bedroom it worked very poorly. If you've got a DishDVR, you may be familiar with these problems.

We frequently tried to find that "magic place" to aim the remote so it would work -- be it at the corner of the dresser mirror, at the headboard, at the window and so on. Making the remote work was like voodoo, and all the newest batteries didn't seem to help.

Then I found a way to get much better reception between the remote control and the DishDVR receiver. Hurray!
 
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Step 1: Identify and gather your equipment

Firstly, this instructable is about the DishDVR receiver model 625. It probably applies to nearly all other models, but that's up to you to verify, YMMV, etc.

You'll want to get the following:
  • a 6ft length of coaxial cable with connectors
  • a barrel connector

Step 2: Locate and disconnect the antenna

Chances are that the antenna is a 8-inch piece of wire connected to the back of your DishDVR receiver. If it's like mine, it's buried within a big wooden box (entertainment center). Turn the unit around and unscrew the antenna from its connector on the back.

Step 3: Make the connections

Picture of Make the connections
Connect the barrel connector to one end of the 6ft coaxial cable. Connect the opposite end of the coaxial cable to the "Remote Antenna" jack on the back of the DVR unit. Now connect the antenna itself to the barrel connector.
ibthebest4 months ago

Thanks to everyone who contributed to the soulutions. It took me awhile because I had the signal booster after the splitter (that won't work). You need both the wires out from the booster and the UHF port on the dual side of the splitter and then on the single port of splitter, the cable back to the rest of the house. I have cussed and struggled with this problem for decades, literally. Dish will not tell you how to do this and not many of their techs will do it either.

ikssk6 years ago
When i worked for Dish, way to many years, had to deal with this problem a lot. So i found a better way to solve the problem, put the antenna in the same room as the 2nd TV. All you need is 2 splitters and 3 small pieces of rg6 with connectors. All you have to do is combine the signal coming out of the UHF (antenna plug) and the TV 2. And this is how you do it: Unplug both, antenna and TV2. Plug both in to the 2-way splitter where it says "OUT".Plug the "IN" in to the cable that's going to your 2nd TV. Unplug RG6 from 2nd TV, and plug it in to the "IN" on the second 2-way splitter. Connect the UHF antenna in one of the "OUTS" on the splitter and the other "OUT" is going in to the TV, If this is confusing I just might do my first instructable on this, so let me know.
nailman ikssk8 months ago

Should this work through a triplexer also? In the back of my vip 722 I have tv1 and tv2 cables along with a ch21-69 output cable all going though a triplexer. I tried a couple of combinations but never could get the remote to work at all when I moved it to tv2. Where should the splitter be in relation to the triplexer and which cables would I combine to it? Thanks!

daniel2b ikssk8 months ago
will this work through a diplexer
ikssk daniel2b8 months ago
This does work through a diplexer,
tomerbaz ikssk8 months ago
Dude! Where have you been all my life (or at least the last 6 years that I'm with Dish) :-)
You just resolved 6 years of UHF remote frustration!! Works like a charm.
adillbeck ikssk9 months ago
I did this, and it works great for controlling the channel, but when I put the antenna on the second splitter by TV2, I got a lot of signal degradation. If I take the antenna off of the splitter, the picture is nice and clear.
I don't know if this interference is caused by the antenna picking up signals and putting them down the line, or from using cheap splitters, or that it's kind of a long run.
Is there a way to clear up or filter the noise on the line from the antenna?
Figured it out.

I changed the output channel from 60 to 64, and it sharpened right up.
I tried going down first to 58, but that looked worse.
Just had to test it out a bit.
I just tried this with my folks' Dish receiver and it worked *perfectly.* Thanks so much for the instructions, ikssk!
brfrankl ikssk4 years ago
 This works perfectly, except that since I split my TV2 into 4 drops I lost enough signal to see some picture quality hit at the TV where the antenna ended up.  To solve this, I bought a signal booster at radio shack and put it on the TV2 out from the DishNet box before it went into the "combiner"  Works like a chart now ;)
Just joined Instructables tonite after searching the net to see how to improve my 2nd tv reception and found your answer to the problem.  I tried it and it worked perfect just like you said.  Thanks for solving this problem the local Dish people couldn't even figure out over a year ago.  Now I can finally enjoy watching tv in my bedroom.  I'm also glad I found this site, I've already found a few new projects i'd like to try.  This seems like a great site for anyone who likes DIY and learning new things.
I'm glad you found this helpful.
Mad About It8 months ago

Oh my goodness, I hereby crown ye the TECHIE GOD! I have been dealing with this same extremely frustrating situation for over a year! I have carpal tunnel syndrome in both wrists and you can't imagine how much hell I have gone through from having to sit there night after night and point that stupid remote all over the bedroom, at the ceiling, at the floor, up in the opposite corner, back behind my head, etc., while continuously click, click, click, CLICKING...trying to get it to work...just to pause it or change the dang channel! I swear I was just about to the point of throwing the remote through the TV screen. Called Dish and they wanted to charge me $120 for service call. Asked for help on other forums but nobody seemed to be able to figure it out. I had just given up on being able to watch TV in the back bedroom. Then I found this post you so graciously shared with us technically challenged people. I can't even tell you how grateful I am to get this instruction. It worked like a charm for me. Bravo sir, BRAVO! <3

I set this up exactly as described and one of the two tv's has a lot of distortion so I when to radio shack and bought an inline satellite specific signal amplifier but when I hook it up where you suggested and I not longer get any signal on my TV2's. Anyone have any ideas what I am doing wrong? Did I get an amplifier the wrong kind of amplifier? The model is 16-2565 in Line Satellite Amplifier. Thanks
Change your channel for your second tv, I had a lot of luck with channels 21 and 65, but it all depends on your area.
Kkambhampati11 months ago
Dear kozz,

Thanks so much, I struggled with this problem and your trick resolved the problem. Thanks again, I am able to enjoy tv in the bedroom.
manati781 year ago
Dear ikssk today is August 11 2013 and I just want to let you that your solution works perfect for me! (VIP 722k box) Thank you very much! I sing up just to let you know. I do not need a signal buster and works perfect with the two spliter and three short RG6 cables. Thanks again, Im happy now!!!! Sam
TechShopJim2 years ago
As one of the posters above pointed out, you can place the small UHF antenna near the remove TV2 using just two off-she-shelf 2-1 splitters and 3 short coax cables. This trick uses your single existing cable run from the Dish receiver to your TV2, but the small stub UHF antenna ends up going in the room with TV2:

http://www.dishuser.org/pictures/uhf-extension.jpg

I originally learned about this when I watched a Dish tech set up my mom's Dish set up in Arizona. I was incredulous, but it works! I set it up in my home office.

I received a message from Instructables member "Miguel" as follows:

hi Jim, Sorry to bother you but I saw your post that provides the solution I have been looking for regarding dish remote antenna signal. My second tv is far from the receive, i get the signal via the coax cable but remote signal never makes it to the receive. Here is what you suggested in forum: http://www.instructables.com/id/Improve-your-DishDVR-UHF-Remote-Control-Reception/#step1 And my question is what type of splitter is it, what model? I tried searching to regular splitter but it takes me to some splitter/combine type that is not the same as what you suggested. Any help/link is really appreciated. Miguel

I answered him as follows:

Hi Miguel... I'm happy to answer your questions.

This project was a little bit daunting for me to, despite its simplicity.

In my house, the second TV is also far from the Dish Networks receiver and got its signal through the coax cable but the signal from the remote controller would never make it to the receiver.

You can use ANY coax splitter that has 2 connections on one side, and one connection on the other. You can also use any splitter that has 2, 3 or 4 inputs that go into 1 output. Originally I purchased my splitters at Radio Shack and they were about $6 each. Then I found coax splitters at a local store called "Dollar Tree" for...you guessed it, one dollar! Go to your local electronics shop, or home improvement center, or dollar store and you will be able to find them.

If you can't find them locally, then search Amazon or eBay for "coax splitter".

Let me know how your project works out, and if my Instructable solves your problem!

By the way, if you have a broadband Internet connection in your house along with your Dish Network receiver, you can get a device called a SlingBox and connect it it to your Dish receiver (depending on which receiver you have...I have a 722). It allows me to literally watch the second TV out signal that goes to my second TV from literally anywhere in the world on my iPhone! I use it on planes that have GoGo internet WiFi, I use it in foreign countries, and I even use it to watch live or DVR recorded shows in bed at home when I'm going to sleep. It is awesome, and there's no monthly fee. you have to pay $99 for the SlingBox adapter, but I think it is worth it.
tbrown352 years ago
ok time to complicate! I just tried the above procedure using radio shacks vhf/uhf duplexer with a DC pass-through for UHF. I figured this would be a better option to separate the two signals.... it didn't work, BUT I'm not sure for which reason, here's my other dilemma.....

man this is like the 4th time I've re-written this, difficult to explain, I'll trace the path of the cable from my dish:

Dish - to SAT of splitter UHF/VHF output goes to my TV (TV2 ultimately). The single cable of the splitter goes to my DVR. Before it gets there it passes through another splitter, first entering the single input side. The UHF/VHF goes to the TV2 output. The other SAT side goes to a splitter that branches off and connects to the two TV inputs on my receiver.

So there's already a splitter hooked up, can I still do this? I tried various hook ups, I can get a signal to my TV, but I can't get both the TV and UHF antenna to both work, but I'm open to suggestions. For now I hooked up a cable to my UHF antenna and put it around a corner, which has helped A LOT, but it's an eye sore
subguy7524 years ago
Here are some great reference pictures for multiple variations. http://tech.dishnetwork.com/departmental_content/TechPortal/content/tech/remotes/howto/TechRemo_uhf_extend.shtml
Excellent - great solution. Improved my situation substantially.
dchall86 years ago
Great idea, very effective photos, and a great Instructable. I don't have Dish but I have other wireless stuff that I'll have to look at. Thanks!
Good idea. Using a Diplexer in this situation is highly discouraged by my company, because with Multi-Room Receivers the combined signals have been known to decrease both picture and audio quality, however the RF remotes signal is picked up easier (duh). Dish network sucks, this may or may not be due to the fact that I work for DirecTV.
Diplexers are just high pass / low pass filters... you wouldn't use more than 2 of them very often. AND only 2 % of the time would you use more than 4 in one install. DirecTV Still uses technology that dish discarded 2 generations ago so I would guess you don't know how all this stuff works... and that is fine. But the first poster on this is correct ... you would use 2 splitters and put the antenna in the same room as the TV2. Let me see if I can put a better description of the process. 1. Locate the cable coming to the back of your receiver box. 2.That line will be going to the IN/OUT port on the diplexer (looks like a splitter with a blue sticker on it) 3. Coming from the SAT port of the diplexer is a cable running into a separator which also looks like a splitter. 4. From the separator there are 2 lines .. One going to Sat1 and the other going to SAT2. 5. IMPORTANT!!! DO NOT DISCONNECT THE separator FROM EITHER THE DIPLEXER OR THE receiver BOX! 6. Coming from the VHF/UHF port on the diplexer should be 1 line going to the " Home Distribution" port on the back of the receiver box. 7. In the Same general area as the Home Distribution port is the Remote Antenna port. 8. Disconnect the cable from the Home Distribution port on the back of the receiver. 9. Attach a Splitter on to the cable you just disconnected. 10. attach a cable from one of the "OUT" ports of the splitter to the Home Distribution port. 11. Attach a cable from the other "OUT" port of the splitter to the Remote Antenna port. 12. GO TO TV2 13. Behind TV2 disconnect the Cable going to the TV 14. Attach a splitter to the line you just disconnected. 15. Attach the Remote Antenna to one of the "OUT" ports on the splitter 16. Attach a cable from the other "OUT" port to your TV. DONE!!!! Your Remote now Works as if you have an additional receiver box at your TV2. THE REASON THIS WORKS!!!!!!!! The Diplexer is a High Pass / Low Pass Filter NOT A SPLITTER! The satellite signal traveling down the line only takes up certain bands The Low Pass Filter is 950-1450MHZ the High Pass is 1650-2150MHZ. The reason this is important is that Cable(COX, TIME WARNER, COMCAST) signal travels between 5-850MHZ and so does the signal for the Remote Antenna. So DISH can Transmit not only the 2 incoming SAT Signals on one line but we can also Transmit the Signal to TV2 AND The Remote Antenna on the Same Cable. For Those of you keeping Score that is 4 Signals down and back up one cable. This also has the effect of letting DISH use 1 Box to power 2 TVs. Something DirecTV still can't do
gurubry coretj4 years ago
Hey this worked Great! The length of the instructions makes it look harder than it is because a lot of the instructions is just "Don't touch this." I did it and it worked great. One lesson learned: Don't use the cheap splitters. I bought the cheap splitters for $3 each and when connecting the antenna to the splitter at TV2 I got some degradation. I returned the cheap splitters and bought some $10 splitters and the picture quality was perfect. I no longer need to find that magic spot for the remote - works in every direction.
AquaDad6 years ago
Brilliant -- this is exactly what I was looking for! Thank you!