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Improving a Welder Ground Clamp

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These stamped steel ground clamps are standard from the factory on many welders.  They work pretty well, but performance degrades in time.  I could buy a nice brass ground clamp, but would rather just improve the contact and current path on this clamp.  
 
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Step 1: Fit a piece of aluminum bar stock

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I decided to fit some aluminum bar stock inside one half of the stamped steel spring clamp.  My bar stock is 1/8 inch x 3/4 inch.  The space inside the stamped steel clamp handle is about 9/16 inch.  I used a hacksaw to trim off the excess. 

Step 2: Drill a hole in the aluminum

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Drill a hole through the piece of aluminum for the cable bolt.

Step 3: Cut and bend the aluminum piece

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In this photo I have drilled out and removed the rivet that holds the clamp together, removed the plastic handle grip, loosened the bolt, removed the cable, cut the piece of aluminum to length, and bent it to fit the contours of the stamped piece of steel.

Step 4: Build up the thickness

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I cut a second piece of aluminum to thicken it inside the jaws so it can clamp directly against the steel I am welding.

Step 5: Drill for a brass screw

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I drilled through both pieces of aluminum at the jaw and the steel of the jaw, used a countersink to prepare the aluminum for a bevel head brass screw, inserted the screw and fastened it with a brass nut.  I cut the brass screw end nearly flush with the nut and peened it with a hammer to keep it from coming loose in the future.

Step 6: Inserting the spring

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The spring is quite strong.  I did not want to wrestle it back into the handle halves while trying to insert a screw to replace the rivet.  I decided to squeeze the spring in my vise and tie it in its squeezed position with some sturdy wire. 
laxap2 years ago
I am intending to start welding, and am surprised when seeing how small the contact surface offered by standard unmodified clamps is. So I find your article very relevant.

What about simply winding some fairly thick copper wire around each half of the clamp? or some desoldering braid?
Phil B (author)  laxap2 years ago
Those things should help quite a lot. Much may depend on the size and shape of what you need to grab with your ground clamp. That is, making the ground clamp hold on small items may be different from making it hold on large items. Of course, another option is to go to a welding supply store and buy a really good commercial ground clamp. What I did here has worked out very well. Thank you for looking and for commenting.
kill-a-watt3 years ago

This could be useful for the many people like 4x4ers who weld in the field with batteries and jumper cables.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tHJ0NSjZnM


(not my vid)
Phil B (author)  kill-a-watt3 years ago
Here is a car battery welding demonstration that runs about 9 minutes. I am surprised he is able to get enough power to weld with 1/8" #6011 rod on pretty thick material.
it actually works OK, but the current is too high and the arc is hard to keep going. I was able to weld maybe 1-2" before I lost the arc. I used rods from 1/16 to 1/8 just fine though.

Tim Anderson here: http://www.instructables.com/id/Golfcart--Welder/step6/Arc-Stabilizer-and-Stinger/ talks about making an inductor to stabilize the arc. Unfortunatly, every microwave I've taken apart for the inductor has used a tiny iron core instead of the hefty ones they used to use. I think I need an older one.

(One of the microwaves came with a surprise! Cockroaches! Make sure you do your initial disassembly of the "curb shopped" microwave outside!)

I think if someone could come up with a sub-$50 box that included the inductor and added in a device that imposed a high frequency high voltage "arc starter" (to avoid the "scratch start"), they might have a winner. However, I'd guess the liability insurance would make this impossible to hit my price point. Everyone always says that welding with batteries is "for emergency use only"

Oh and I want to tell you that I made a quickie welding mask for my brother to watch me weld. I bought a $3 #10 lens and made the rest out of some clear packaging plastic (to protect the lens from splatter), duct tape, and a beer flat. Worked great! I'll have to make a slightly better one following your instructions later.
Phil B (author)  kill-a-watt3 years ago

Thank you for your response.  Years ago Popular Mechanics and Popular Science magazines had plans for home-built welders.  The PM version ran on 230 volts and used the steel core from a step down transformer salvaged from the local electrical power utility.  That was before oil loaded with PCB's was used to cool them.  The windings were #12 plastic covered household wire laid parallel in multiple strands to gain the current carrying capacity required.  Welding current settings were by plugging into different sockets connected to taps on the secondary windings.  The PS version used a surplus WW II aircraft generator powered by a 5 HP gasoline engine.  Both had an arc stabilizer made from a brick of steel laminations wound with multiple turns of wire.  One of them allowed the core to move in and out of the coil for adjustment of the stabilization.  The library at a local college has both magazines complete back to the initial issues.  I had seen both before, but found them again with the Reader's Guide to Periodical Literature.  They may even be on-line by now.  I am glad to know the guest welding hood worked out for you.  UV protection is important, and I am planning to paint mine black.  Between the cardboard and the paint, there should be pretty good protection.  Thanks for letting me know.
Phil B (author)  Phil B3 years ago

I found the welder plans I remember.  They are from the November 1965 Popular Science Magazine, p. 142f.  You can view the article on-line here.  It probably will not take you to the exact correct page.  Click on "Contents" in the menu bar at the top.  Scroll down a little and click on "142 Make Your Own Arc Welder."  That will take you to the correct page.
Here's the plans for the one that took a war-surplus Delco Remy P-l aircraft generator:

http://www.vintageprojects.com/metal-welding/auto-arc-welder.html
Phil B (author)  kill-a-watt3 years ago
I think the generator welder and stabilizer in your link is very, very close electrically to the plans I saw, but they were mounted on a wheeled cart the home builder makes to carry the generator and the gasoline engine, not inside the engine compartment of an automobile. Whereas the output on the Vintage Projects welder varies according to engine RPM, the plans I saw were limited to around 75 amps of welding current, probably because the 5 HP engine cannot manage more spin on the generator. Thank you for locating this link.



I figured it out. You need to use the "rich editor", and then get the "embed" code from the webpage of the video (in youtube, that's currently below the video, shown by pressing the "embed" button.) Paste the entire code into the Instructables window.

Also, this Instructable: http://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-embed-a-video-into-Instructables/ is deprecated.
Well that didn't work. I guess they rolled back features. Reminds me of Adobe.
Phil B (author)  kill-a-watt3 years ago
I remember reading about some 4 x 4 fans who had to stop and weld a cracked suspension part one of the vehicles. They connected several of the auto batteries in series and had the repair done in a short time. Since the ground clamp shown is pretty much identical to those found on automotive jumper cables, this adaptation could be useful to boost current carrying capacity, especially on a set of cables starting to show signs of wear and tear. Thanks for your comments. I am sorry your video link did not work out, but I think I get the idea.
rimar20003 years ago
Phil, I always wondered why the ground clamp is so weak, whether to deal with so many amperes. Now I see you have a response!

I think I will do that you suggest.

Tomorrow I will take five days of rest at Piriapolis, Uruguay. I will miss my workshop...
Have a good time in your trip! Please bring me coins and bills because I love to collect money from all over the world! :)
I collect US dollars, I have a big trunk totally full of them. Some time ago I had to throw away a lot of Kg of dollars because they were rusty, all green!
Phil B (author)  rimar20003 years ago
That is a good joke, Osvaldo. While in school I worked in a bank. I was a teller in a parking lot cubicle where people could drive up in their automobiles to do their banking. We saw money in many different colors. It was all green once, but had been places and touched things we did not want to know about. :-)
Phil B (author)  rimar20003 years ago
Osvaldo,

After you make this improvement to your welder's ground clamp, you may think someone stole your welder during the night and replaced it with a new, more powerful one! I think the ground clamps are so weak because they are very cheap to make. Enjoy your vacation trip. We like to say three days at the lake are better than a day at work anytime.
i cant wit to make this welder mod
rimar20003 years ago
Phil, I did it. The result is very good, thanks!

Incidentally I discovered that the ground cable was half-cutted. I did a new terminal (I don't know the specific word, is the copper holed piece that ends and fastens the cable) using two copper tubes, one over the other, smashed strongly with the 1 Kg hammer. For the improving I used two pieces of aluminum dipstick, you can see them at the photo.
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Phil B (author)  rimar20003 years ago
Osvaldo,

A half-severed cable would hurt your welder's performance. That is certain. Pounding copper tubing flat would make an excellent heavy duty conductor for your welder ground clamp. Sometimes the English word we use for a heavy conductor is 'bus.' It is the same word that describes a large motor vehicle for carrying many passengers through a city or across the country. Terminal is a good word. If it squeezes onto the wire we often call it a crimp or crimped connector. If I understand correctly, you crushed copper tubing over the end of the wire to make a crimp connector. I expect you drilled a hole in the end of the flattened tubing. I probably would have pounded the copper tubing flat over the end of the wire and then soldered it with lead solder and a propane torch. It seems, then, that your welder performs better now. I am glad for you. Thanks for the photo.

Look at the photo in step 10. It is a step I added. I made a permanent adaptation with something like the piece of scrap steel inserted under the top jaw.
Yes, I thought solder the cable, but I was lazy to do it and thought it was not really necessary. I did a punch hole (no drill, to minimize the waste of copper) at the end of the flattened copper.

I had seen the picture in step 10, but I thought that that vertical piece was not permanent. Do not prevents it you put the clamp on a thick tube, for example, or on the vise grip?
Phil B (author)  rimar20003 years ago
Many connectors are crimped only with no solder. Your ground clamp connection will probably be just fine. I know what you mean about being lazy and deciding something is good enough.

You are right. The vertical piece in step 10's photo is not permanent. But, an idea came to me. I made the temporary piece a bit smaller and made it permanent. I have attached a graphic. It shows a screw (purple) and a metal tab (gray) cut to fit inside the clamp. It is just big enough to keep the clamp open a couple of millimeters. The blue shows where I welded the tab to the screw. I drilled a hole through the other side of the clamp and screwed on a nut to make it tight. I also added another piece of aluminum that looks very much like what you show in your photo so that there is aluminum in both jaws. This allows the clamp to grasp something smaller, like a nail, from the end of the clamp's jaws. You may need to click on the graphic to make it larger for better viewing.
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Thanks, Phil, that seems even better. I will think if to do it or conform as is now.
2 stroke 3 years ago
man i thought you had the miller thunderbolt buzz box stick welder
Phil B (author)  2 stroke 3 years ago
I think you will like the results if your ground clamp is one of the stamped steel spring clamps, especially if it is a bit worn or rusty. You have a good memory. I do have a Miller Thunderbolt. I got the Hobart wire feed with some Christmas money. I am thinking of selling the Miller. The Hobart does just about everything I will likely ever do, is more portable, and is easier to use. It also takes up less space than the Miller.
yeah i think you should sell the miller buzz box because for the home handyman like you and me the big ac 220 volt welders are a overkill and too heavy to move around that is why i bought an ac 70 amp stick welder for 50 dollars it is awesome and potable good luck selling it. clean it up real well and add in some welding rods and gloves for free dont sell it less than 200 bucks and write a lot about it craigslist works fine for selling stuff
Phil B (author)  2 stroke 3 years ago
My Miller Thunderbolt is the older style from about 1974. It is not one of the nicer, newer ones. It still looks pretty good and works very well. Similar welders are going for less in our area now. I have a friend who expressed and interest in it. He learned to use a similar welder during his high school years. Because he is a friend I will probably give him a pretty fair deal.
Reffner3 years ago
How does the aluminum hold up? I've got some copper bar stock I may try this with. On a side note, as a welder in the field, I discovered that the teeth on the ground clamp can be good for "digging in" and getting through thick paint, like what they prime structural steel beams with. I also discovered when using a stick welder, sometimes you can make a bad ground good (or at least better) by placing a welding rod between the clamp and the steel, after removing the flux of course. Not as good, but works in a pinch. Great idea, thanks for sharing it.
Phil B (author)  Reffner3 years ago
Copper bar stock would be preferable to aluminum in most cases just as copper electrical wire is preferable to aluminum. As I mentioned in the final frame, should the aluminum tarnish or pick up a resistive oxide, it can be brushed to be shiny again. Unless there is arcing, I would think the aluminum would hold up quite well. Even copper can pick up an oxide that resists electrical current. Teeth on a traditional stamped steel ground clamp would dig in better through a coating of paint and rust. I do not weld professionally, but have sometimes clamped down hard on a dirty work piece with a Vise-Grip and then attached the ground clamp to the clean metal on the Vise-Grip. The jaws of a Vise-Grip usually are quite good at getting down through rust and paint to unadorned metal. And, that works very well. Thanks for your comment.