Introduction: K'nex Dual Pistol Set

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Why Dual? Both guns mutually pull each others' firing pins to a cocked position by one simple action so your hands never leave the handles. Not powerful, but pretty cool. Each has its own 7-shot mini-hopper for repeated firing. Just watching the video explains them best.



This gun set is basically a hybrid of design elements from Red Impact and KillerK's gun. The only original, 'innovative' feature here is that they pull each other. Hopefully I won't get too much flame for putting KillerK's firing system to some creative use. :)

Pieces that will need to be modified/mutilated:
4x Dark Grey Connector (will be 'decapitated')
2x Tan Lock (will be weakened)

Step 1: Create Specialized Pieces.

Picture of Create Specialized Pieces.

No, we're not damaging K'nex parts; we're ENHANCING K'nex parts.

Find a safe way to 'decapitate' 4 dark-grey connectors by cutting off the top halves of their loops. I stuck all of them on a rod and used a small hand saw. Makers of my Red Impact should already be familiar with these.

Also, we need to 'weaken' a pair of tan lock connectors so that they do not cause as much sliding friction on the firing pin they will be attached to. I have found an easy way of doing this that involves putting them on the end of a rod and turning them carefully. This permanently weakens the plastic and they'll never be tight again. I would mark them with a sharpie.

Step 2: The Firing Pin's Shaft and Trigger. (Rear)

Picture of The Firing Pin's Shaft and Trigger. (Rear)

This is the rear section of the first gun. The tan lock in this step is one of the two that you have weakened (clearly, you're saving the other for gun number two). It should be simple enough to build based on these three angles, and note the third one shows where the auto-lock block trigger's rubber band belongs. The black rod should have a very easy time sliding through.

Step 3: The Handle - Middle Section.

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The handle section is built similarly to the Red Impact's. The orange-colored rod is a bendable one. It is there for comfort (my hands started really hurting from rubbing against the bottomside of the back end, and this smooth rod in the way fixed that). If you don't have a bendy rod, I still highly reccomend a yellow rod there.

The camera flash was being kind of weird, and I was being kind of lazy.

Step 4: Ammunition Hopper - Front Section.

Picture of Ammunition Hopper - Front Section.

The inside of this section uses two decapitated dark grey connectors.

I'm still not used to my new macro close-up lens. The lens itself is physically in the way of the camera's flash light so when I'm too close, this happens. -_-

Step 5: Attach Segments Together and Add Structural Brace.

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All parts previously assembled (and a small new one) are to be added together as shown.

Step 6: Build an Identical, Symmetrical Mirror-image Copy.

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This is DUAL pistols, after all. Since the triggers are on the sides for thumbs, one must have its trigger on the other side, which means its structural brace must also be on the opposite side from the first. The second one should go much quicker, now that you have one already built to use as reference.

Do they have to match by color? No.

Step 7: Assign Genders to Firing Pins and Arm Them.

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One must be male, and the other shall be female. *snickersnicker*

As with nearly all firing pins of this type, it will violently explode if you don't use tape. Tape stops this by refusing to let the connectors widen up and detach. The best tapes are ones that do not stretch, like packaging tape or (I reccomend) alluminum tape. Wrap at least 3x around to be safe.

The firing pins must be powered by rubber bands. The anchor points for the rubber bands are are (opposite of the trigger side) the Structural Brace and (on trigger side) the blue rod of the handle. Take two rubber bands, bind them up, and stuff their combining knot into the firing pin's dark grey connector.

Step 8: Loading/Firing.

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The hoppers are loaded from the front. They are designed with the backs wider so the rods can take places beside one another. This allows 7 to just barely squeeze in.

The intro video explains it best, but the way to very quickly pull back both firing pins at once is to hook the male into the female ends and pull on both. Be sure to hold them straight, facing perfectly away from each other. After the triggers auto-lock, separate them, aim, fire.

Comments

aleceatsfood (author)2011-02-15

ingenius! never would have though of this way of laoding the gun

An Villain (author)2010-05-23

*Sad trumpet music*

NostalgicStone (author)2010-05-11

 Love it

zimster42 (author)2008-08-29

i don't destroy pieces...if it's friction that must be eliminated, then i will use hydraulic oil (i can probably convince an old teacher of mine to let me have a small amount until i can buy my own)

Perfect Duck (author)zimster422008-08-29

Try building this without the cut pieces and you'll understand their necessity. Or, use tan locks like older hopper designs do and suffer vastly reduced efficiency.

DJ Radio (author)Perfect Duck2009-11-23

I know why a PURE tan lock barrel is less efficient than a tan lock barrel with decapitated connectors.  The tan locks are actually a tad bit shorter than the white connector's hole, so there is a barely visible ledge that's created by the white connector, which is enough to create a bump in the ammo.

I'm sure you know this already, but I thought other people should know.

zimster42 (author)Perfect Duck2008-08-30

well, i guess i can sacrifice ONE tan lock for the sake of power...

builder968 (author)zimster422008-11-01

if you press the edges together after it has been weakened, it strengthens it a little back to original. it still isnt full strength,but its a little better, it doesnt slide around on the rod.

I_am_Canadian (author)zimster422008-09-07

You dont have to vut tan locks to use them in a hopper.

DJ Radio (author)2009-09-26

Is it allright with you if I use your pistol mech for a dual pistol set I will make? Mine will be more powerful and have a true trigger, with removable mags.

erikos kostarikos (author)2009-08-31

believe me, you are really genius!!

erikos kostarikos (author)2009-08-20

THE RELOADING OF THIS IS AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! a question: HAVE YOU GOT ANY NORMAL GUNS THAT ARE NOT RARE?!?!?!?

liamer (author)2007-07-19

instead of cutting of the tops of the grey connectors, why don't you just use the peices that are already like that, you know, the black ones

An Villain (author)liamer2009-07-29

ball-socket joints clip the connectors in, look at KILLERK'S pistol if you want to see what i mean.

Perfect Duck (author)liamer2007-07-19

Black ball-socket connectors are completely different and will not work for this. I have already explained this.

bighead5454 (author)2009-06-25

can u load these from the barrel

Perfect Duck (author)2009-06-01

Blue connectors are gigantic and massive; doing it that way would severely hinder performance because the extra mass would decrease acceleration and the ammo only shoots as fast as the firing pin's top speed. Also, under the heavy rubber band load that these pistols use, I have severe doubt that a 'blue connector ball' would even be able to stay on. Disregard my idea all you want but getting these firing pins to do what they do actually did require several different testing concepts before this design came about. Also, these firing pins do not actually need tape for them to function the way shown on the video, but the tape does reinforce the male/female catches to be quite rugged.

DJ Radio (author)2009-06-01

also, you could easily make this a block-true gun. Its been almost 2 years since this gun was made and nobody has ever tried anything like this.

DJ Radio (author)2009-06-01

as of now, nobody else has done it.

DJ Radio (author)2009-05-31

its one of the better block triggers. Its innovative unlike the other blocks on the site.

DB9 (author)2009-05-30

great gun look at my dual trigger gun on my profile

knexsniper1 (author)2009-05-27

technically its not cheating because you are just modifiying the pieces. it is still knex, just the pieces have been changed slightly. i have modifies only 3 pieces so far and they are those decapitated greys.

knexsniper1 (author)2009-03-11

This is a very creative idea!

PineapplebobTheGreat (author)2007-10-26

Awsome gun(s) I'm going to build it right now. I have over 1600 pieces, so... Well, i'm going to build a lot of these and give some to my friends for battle. AWSOME!

1600 pieces isnt alot... i have 2500!

sorry, I mean 16k. (16000).

ha i have more than 20,000 peices

agent47. (author)killerfork2009-01-08

i have 9999999999999999999 2/3 pieces

mettaurlover (author)agent47.2009-02-06

2/3? how did you do THAT?

agent47. (author)mettaurlover2009-02-06

i cut of 1/3 pieces duh!!!!!!

lol except make theirs without firing pins *devilish laughter*

Yeah. I can just imagine them going "How do I fire this -ACH" and then getting bombarded with my bullet.

lol

i have more, nah nah nah na na, naaaaaaaa!

good idea

DJ Radio (author)2008-12-28

I actually thought of a dirty way to warp this gun........

Danny (author)2007-07-10

cool!

mamoo (author)Danny2007-10-01

Knex Flame Thrower Coming soon!

theKNEXfolo (author)mamoo2007-10-05

how the heck are u gonna shoot flames out a knex gun?it will melt the knex prolly

Perfect Duck (author)theKNEXfolo2007-10-05

The key is to disregard all 'coming soon' posts unless you see pictures with their claims. Usually people get the idea, then get exited, then tell people, then realise they can't do it.

ninjaimasta (author)Perfect Duck2008-02-18

lol Perfect Duck, didnt you yourself say "Anythings Possible With K'nex?"

Lol, but that doesn't mean anyone can do anything with K'nex.

ahem. there is a LEGO flamethrower.

builder968 (author)Nyanman2008-11-01

really? if it does shoot flames, post me a link, please.

It's similar to the .22 bullet knex gun. Possible, but not recommended.

nivek360 (author)mamoo2008-04-22

dude, knex flame thrower?that'll melt the knex up

dsman195276 (author)nivek3602008-05-31

maybe its a thing that has a fake flame that comes out of the gun when you pull the trigger.

apples!!!!! (author)dsman1952762008-06-02

or it holds a flame in front of a can of hairspray, i did that with knex once.

knex lord (author)2008-09-23

how can u kill good pieces ,you murder!!!! just joking lol

Stavroz (author)2008-09-04

Cool.

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