Introduction: Killer PCBs

This instructable demonstrates the process for making printed circuit boards with features as small as 0.005suitable for LQFP or QFN ICs using negative dry film photoresist. This will enable you to handle just about any kind of integrated circuit available--even ball grid array! Pictured are boards with a TSSOP-14, QFN-40 packages using a .65mm pitch and zero insertion force flex sockets with .5mm pitch.

Step 1: Background

After experimenting with home PCB fabbing for a while, I've finally worked out a process that produces reasonably consistent results that actually look pretty good. I spent lots of time trying to use the toner transfer method with varying degrees of success (OK, varying degrees of failure might be more accurate). I also tried Philmore/Datak negative photo resist spray with consistently horrible results (the stuff eventually melted the spray nozzle that came with it and leaked all over the place). Not Green & not recommended. Now I could have purchased presensitized boards and saved a lot of trouble, but I find the material to be too costly for the volume of boards I'm producing. I eventually tried dry film photo resist and I won't be going back! I'm not going to go into the intricacies of schematic capture, or etching since those subjects are well covered by other instructables. No volatile compounds are used--only simple bases which can be rendered environmentally safe by filtering solids and neutralizing with HCl (see manufacturer instructions for proper disposal procedures). This process, when combined with a Peroxide/Cupric Chloride etching process forms an environmentally responsible, Green PCB development process.

If you haven't tried the toner transfer method, do so. Unless you are blessed with magical toner and/or paper, the dry film resist method will yield better results, but the process is a bit more involved. If you are satisfied with the toner-transfer results, by all means, stick with that method. Naturally the standard warnings apply: PCB etching and dry film processing involve caustic materials--be sure to use protective equipment and have an eye-wash station handy (or at least a bucket of water). Also note that dry film developing and stripping involve strong bases--keep them far away from your etching chemicals, or they may react violently.

Thus far, I've used three types of dry film resist, all of which performed well:
--MG Chemicals 416DFR Dry Film Resist About $20.00 for 12" by 5 feet at Frys, Altex and online. MG refused to quote larger quantities, and will not divulge the manufacturer of their film.

--Dupont Riston M115 available at Think & Tinker Excellent resist, much more economical than MG if you want larger quantities (12"x50ft for $96.75, 12"x100ft for $116.26). Outstanding outfit, very helpful, friendly people and lots of great info. Terrific site!

--Kolon Dry Film Resist Korean manufacturer sells for somewhat less than Think & Tinker's Riston, but with a minimum of 500ft cases.

What you will need
- Laser Printer
- Home/Office Laminator
- Laser Printer Transparencies
- Spray Adhesive
- Negative Dry Film Photo Resist
- Resist Developer (sodium carbonate)
- Resist Stripper (sodium hydroxide)
- Glass Sheets
- Clear Tape
- Yellow Bug Light
- Light-Safe Area

- Vacuum Bag or Vacuum Frame
- Collimated UV Exposure Source
- Rotary paper trimmer
- 21 step Stouffer Sensitivity Guide for Calibration

Step 2: Create Artwork

I'm assuming you've captured your schematic and laid out your PCB in something like Eagle--if you don't know what I'm talking about, you'd better start off by learning schematic capture, and PCB layout. Once you've got the PCB laid out, you will need to create negative photo masks. A negative photo mask is a transparency that is clear where you want copper and black where you want to remove copper. One hint: if you make a habit of filling your PCB layers with ground or power planes, you will save a lot of toner. Also, note that you can tile your PCB layout in Eagle using the group copy command if there is not an associated schematic file (otherwise it will complain you have to do this in the schematic"). I found the process of inverting the colors in your output to be surprisingly difficult, but eventually I settled on this fairly simple approach using the open source vector drawing software Inkscape:

1. Make sure you've selected just the layers necessary for etching (e.g. Top/Bottom, Pads, Vias).

2. Use Eagle's print function to output to a PDF file. Even though we're printing on transparencies, you'll still want to mirror the top layer so as to place the printed side closest to the board and prevent bleeding.

3. If you don't already have Inkscape installed, download it and install it now.

4. Open the PDF in Inkscape (accept the default loading parameters).

5. Open the Layers pane (Menu Layer:Layers).

6. Click the + button to add a layer. Name it whatever you like (I named mine "b").

7. Click the down arrow to move the new layer to the bottom.

8. Select the rectangle tool from the tool pane.

9. Right-click the blue color swatch at the bottom of the screen and select Set stroke.

10. Right-click the grey color swatch and select Set fill.

11. Click and drag to draw an rectangle around your board.

12. Select the arrow tool, then select and drag each side of your rectangle right to the edge of your board. The display should look something like this:

13. Right click the black swatch at the bottom of the screen and select Set Fill. Right click the black swatch again and select Set stroke.

14. Click the eye icon in the layers palette to turn off the b layer.

15. Click and drag to select your board (or click the select all visible icon on the toolbar).

16. Negate the image (Menu Effects:Color:Negative)

17. Click the eye icon for the b layer again. You should now have something like this:

18. Click Save-As, then change the file type to PDF via Cairo, and append _out to the filename (e.g. test_out.pdf) so as not to overwrite the original.

19. Click Save-As again to save as the default SVG format.

Step 3: Make Transparencies

This part was a bit of a challenge too. The problem is that most laser printers don't make really dark prints, so some light leaks through the black areas. I tried lots of approaches to selectively darken the toner: dry-erase markers, stamp-pad ink, crayons, charcoal, graphite, softening/heating + additional toner application, etc.. None of it worked. Here's what works consistently for me:

1. Start with small artwork--I use a rotary paper trimmer to cut transparency sheets into quarters (4.25 x 5.5) 2-3 sheets at a time. Small artwork is better because heat-related distortions in the transparency material will be reduced.
2. Open the PDF from the last step with Adobe Reader, and print to a laser printer loaded with your transparency sheets. For my printer (Brother HL-5250DN) I use the following settings: User defined paper size (4.25 x 5.5), no duplex, manual feed, 1200 dpi, Darkest Density. Big hint here: You can have multiple copies of the same printer installed in the Windows, so add a new printer called PCB_Laser as a duplicate of your existing laser printer, then right-click and modify the defaults as needed for PCB transparency printing.
3. Print top and bottom artwork. Hold the artwork up to the light: Do you see any light seeping through the black areas? If your results are similar to mine, you will have enough seepage to cause problems with your resist. Note that you really need to have some larger black areas to accurately judge toner density. If you are blessed with super dense toner, then skip to step 8, otherwise, go ahead and print a second copy of each of your transparencies.
4. Next you need a makeshift light table to align the artwork. This can be as simple as a piece of paper taped on a sunlit window, or a shallow tray containing a hockey-puck-sized light covered by a sheet of paper and a pane of glass. The backlight from a scanner makes a great light table. Just run a scan in transparency/negative mode--chances are it will leave the backlight on for several minutes after scanning then remove the lid and flip it over. The use of a head-mounted magnifying lens will help significantly in aligning your artwork.
5. Next we will bond the transparency pairs (2x top, 2x bottom) to double the toner density.  To do this, take one copy of each transparency and apply spray adhesive to the toner side. You can tell which the toner side is by observing the reflection of light off the surface of the transparency; the toner appears dull on the toner side.
6. Place the non-adhesive-coated transparency toner-side down on the light table--you may want to loosely tape the corners of this sheet to the light table (fold the tape over at the end so you can easily peal it up afterward).
7. Carefully align (register) the adhesive-coated transparency with the uncoated transparency. Once aligned, press firmly to adhere the two sheets.
8. Pass the aligned transparencies through the laminator on the coldest setting to permanently bond the layers together.
9. Align the top and bottom artwork (toner-side in) and tape securely leaving enough room to slide the PCB between.  Alternately, if you have a border that is at least an inch around the board, you can apply spray adhesive to a 1/2" strip along two edges by covering the rest of the mask with the corner of a piece of paper--just be sure to no less than 1/4" between the adhesive strip and the edge of the board.

Step 4: Prepare Copper-Clad

Carefully clean the copper-clad material with a scrubbing pad and a bleach-containing scouring compound (e.g. Soft Scrub w/Bleach). Sand with 320 or 400 grit wet/dry sandpaper to roughen the surface and ensure proper resist adhesion. Dry the board being careful not to touch the board without gloves (to prevent transferring skin oils to the board).

Step 5: Laminate

There are a few different possible approaches to laminating the PCB. MG Chemicals suggests a folder over and laminate approach. Others suggest using either heat or water (or both) to adhere the resist material to the PCB prior to lamination. I've had good luck with this approach:
1. Make your work area light-safe: Turn on the bug light and turn off any fluorescent, or >40 Watt incandescents
2. Cut laminate material 1/2 inch larger than board (double the length if you are doing a double-sided board)
3. Carefully peel just back just the first half inch of the inner film (always on the inside of the curl)
4. Carefully align the laminate ensuring that the laminate covers the board completely on both sides (if double-sided).
5. Press the first half inch of exposed laminate to the board.
6. Carefully pull the remaining inner layer downward a half-inch at a time, while simultaneously pressing the exposed laminate to the board. Be careful not to introduce any wrinkles. Continue to the back side in a similar manner if necessary.
8. Pass the board through the laminator (once the laminator is fully up to temp). Flip over and pass through the laminator again.

Step 6: Expose

Place the laminated PCB between the pre-registered transparencies and tape securely in place. Tape a Stouffer 21-step sensitivity guide over an open section of PCB if you plan to calibrate your exposure process. You want to press the artwork tightly to the PCB to prevent light from leaking under your traces. You can do this with two sheets of glass, or, preferably, you can use a vacuum bag, or vacuum frame. You can then place this assembly in bright sunlight for about 5-8 minutes per side, or use another UV source of your choosing. Note that, despite the tight fit of PCB & artwork, collimation (making light rays parallel) is important to achieve fine traces--refer here for instructions for constructing a collimated UV light source.

Step 7: Develop

Follow the manufacturer's directions for preparing developer solution (usually Sodium Carbonate or Potassium Carbonate) and developing your board (developing removes resist not exposed to UV light).

Step 8: Etch

Use your favorite etchant--just make sure you give some thought to future disposal and consider a green process such as Peroxide/Cupric Chloride etching process (it is literally green, too). And, if you want to dig into the nitty-gritty details of the chemistry involved, this page is for you.

Step 9: Strip

You'll need sodium hydroxide (NaOH) for this--this is the stuff that Brad Pitt uses to burn Edward Norton's hand in Fight Club it dissolves fat, and your skin is composed largely of fat, so be careful. Check local chemical supply houses--I lucked out: my neighbor makes soap, so I just popped over and asked if I could borrow a cup of lye!

Step 10: Solder Mask & Silk Screen

Apply solder mask by scrubbing and re-laminating etched board with a new layer of resist, then remove the protective outer film and apply a second layer of resist to double the thickness. Now expose with stop and silkscreen layers and develop as before (exposure may take slightly longer due to extra thickness of resist). Bake in toaster at 200-220 degrees F for about 10 minutes (being sure to prop up the board so that the resist won't stick to the toaster). Remove the board from the toaster and use a white crayon to fill in the silkscreen text while the board is still warm. Wipe any excess crayon wax off with a towel and use a toothpick to remove excess wax from grooves and traces.

Step 11: Solder Paste Stencil

If you've gotten this far, you must have pulled a few late nights and consumed copious quantities of carbonated (and caffeinated) beverages. If so, grab one of those soda cans and cut the top and bottom off with a pair of scissors or light shears. Try to cut it neatly without ragged edges. Next cut lengthwise to produce a strip of aluminum about 8" by 4". This strip will be very curly, but you can't "unbend" it without making wrinkles. For the following steps, you can either deal with the curl, or you can anneal the metal by heating it in a toaster oven to about 450 degrees F then let it cool slowly back down. Next you must sand both the inside and outside of the can with 220 to 320 grit wet/dry sandpaper to remove the paint (note that there is clear paint on the inside of the can--otherwise the soda would eat through it). You can use some heavy-duty paint stripper for this, but sandpaper seems a bit greener. Once you've gotten all the paint off, scrub well with SoftScrub with Bleach to remove every trace of oil. Next laminate photoresist on both sides just like you did with the PCB. Make your artwork using the tcream layer as you did before, but don't make negatives this time--the output of Eagle is already a negative! Be sure to make two transparencies each for front and back (and be sure to mirror the front so the toner will be right up against the resist). Develop as before and etch in diluted HCl. I diluted the HCl to about 50% (pour acid into water, not the other way around). Etching will start slowly until the oxide layer has been removed, then speed up significantly. Don't etch too fast, or the board will heat up and the resist will come off. If you leave the resist in place you'll have a ~5 mil stencil, or you can strip the resist to get a ~2 mil stencil--but beware, NaOH will attack the aluminum with just a bit less tenacity than the HCl (depending on concentrations). Next use your failed boards (you should have a few of these by now) to rig up a solder paste jig. Apply the solder paste with a paint scraper, or similar, place your parts, and get on with the reflowing...

Step 12: Reflow

Pretty simple stuff here: Heat until solder paste melts, then cool. Be sure to use a fairly stout copper or aluminum plate to evenly spread the heat across the board. Once all the solder melts take the metal plate off the hotplate, and place it on a heat sink to bring the temp back down quickly--cement garage floors work great--just make sure you use oven mits (but don't bake cookies with them afterwards...). You may need to clean up some bridged connections after reflowing. For this, just use solder wick and lots of flux (I like Orange Crush). Apply power and fire it up! BTW, I accidentally ran the temp up too high on the first board and got the cool gradient color effect on the solder mask as a result (see the intro pic). I think the components were still in spec, but I didn't have a good heat spreader under it at the time, so I can't be sure the probe was reading the same temp the board was seeing. The board seems OK so far though...

Well that's it--easy eh? Be sure to watch for my upcoming web site Now have fun and go save the world!


sleemanj made it!(author)2013-02-21

Applying the dry film is THE hardest part of the process.  I've tried a number of methods, and here is the best one for me so far, using a laminator.

1. Clean board very clean, as described already here.

2. Prepare a "carrier", I take a piece of thin flat stiff cardboard such as a breakfast cereal box,  I place the board in the middle of the cardboard, and at each of the board (the top and bottom as you would feed it to the laminator) I stick down a popsicle stick (or such like) onto the carrier with double sided tape to form "end stops", to keep the circuit board from moving as the laminator first bites it, imagine [stick][board][stick] - the sticks must be longer than the edge they are butted up against.

3. I take a piece of dry film, cut so that there is about 5mm extra all around (or at least top and bottom).  I place the film curl-side down on top of the board so that it covers the board and the 5mm at each end overlap the edge of the popsicle sticks, then I put a piece of sellotape over one end of the film to stick it to the popsicle stick to make a hinge across the top edge of the film.

4. I take another piece of cardboard (wider than the film), and I tape that to the other end of the film to make a "tail" from which you can hold the film.

5. Fold the film over backwards using the sellotape at the top as a hinge, now stick a piece of tape on a corner of the bottom, and separate the lower protection layer, removing it completely.

6. Holding the cardboard "tail" you attached, lift the film up vertically, and then feed your carrier into the laminator, lowering the film by the "tail" as the laminator joins it to the board.

That's it.  Sounds complicated, but it makes it MUCH easier to get a good clean bond.  Run it back through the laminator a couple of times if you think it's necessary (experiment with your laminator).  Don't have the laminator too hot or the film can be damaged, and likewise too cold might not bond well.

Once you've made the carrier (all of 2 minutes) you can of course re-use it for the same length of board.

Leave the bonded board in the dark for a good 10 or 15 minutes before exposing it, to allow it to cool and the bond to strengthen, the UV polymer is quite soft when warm (which is why it needs to be warmed, so that it conforms to the board's microscopic contours).

MatthieuR made it!(author)2016-03-19

(Yes, I'm replying to a 3 years old post).

I use a silmple hair dryer! It works fine.

wi10008 made it!(author)2013-03-07

Another option for darkening transparencies is to use a black dry erasable marker. Colour in the entire sheet with the erasable marker and allow to dry. Wipe off again with soft tissue. The ink remains trapped between the dots of the laser print but wipes away cleanly every where else.

sanosuke_kursch made it!(author)2014-03-24

You also can use acetone vapour to melt the plastic of the toner so it will spread more evenly.
Tape the sheet under the lid of a tupperware or something of the sorts, put some acetone in the container, put the lid and let it sit for some time, then remove the sheet from the lid and check it against a light source to see how much it darkened.

wi10008 made it!(author)2014-01-12

The double sided A4 size gloss photo paper I get from ASDA Walmart has no watermarks. I recently bought a single 10W UV 380nm LED from and this only works with transparencies. My gloss paper fluoresces at 380nm but is fine at 395nm!

wi10008 made it!(author)2013-03-16

I've just tried printing laser print on gloss photo paper and placing print directly against photo-resist. I left the paper glossy, without applying oils even. Then exposed as normal. This gives much better resolution than transparencies! The laser printer can get a lot more toner down at a hotter temperature on gloss paper. If the toner is directly against the board any scatter of the UV has little effect on the resolution.

martshal made it!(author)2014-01-12

Don't most photopapers have watermarks across the back? Did you have to search for a specific brand?

wi10008 made it!(author)2013-03-05

Regarding the double-print method to get a darker mask I've found that a number of websites recommend a "toner darkerner" or "toner opacifier" spray. Some forums say that this is just a clear acrylic sprays such as "Krylon Acrylic Crystal Clear".

Apparently, the laser print is sprayed with the acrylic/solvent and then rolled with a smooth roller. The solvent softens the toner and the pressing spreads the dots of toner out slightly filling in the gaps. The solvent is then allowed to evaporate leaving a very dark print. I intend to try this soon.

Thanks fo the great write-up!

sleemanj made it!(author)2013-02-08

I'd like to add, that in my recent experiments with dry film, I didn't use Sodium Hydroxide to strip it, I just dropped the board in the Sodium Carbonate solution which I had used to "develop" it, and when I came back in about an hour or so, all the resist had simply floated off the board.

I expect that Sodium Hydroxide would work pretty much instantly, but if you can wait half an hour, there seems little point messing with that. Sodium Carbonate (Washing Soda) is perhaps more readily available than Sodium Hydroxide (although both are pretty easy to come by), the stuff I bought was sold as a "natural fabric softener" and is 100% Sodium Carbonate, just look on all the packets of laundry supplies in your supermarket, there's sure to be one hiding there somewhere.

For developing, about 5 minutes is the longest I would leave it in the solution, longer than that and it risks damaging the traces too easily. Don't use a scrubbing pad or anything abrasive, the traces can be damaged, just use a wad of toilet paper to firmly wipe the board after it's soaked a couple of minutes.

The hardest part of this process, is getting the film onto the board evenly, without any trapped bubbles or wrinkles or dust, and then getting it through the laminator without it slipping.

NB: I didn't particularly measure the amount of Sodium Carbonate crystals I dissolved, so your mileage may vary.

robielyn made it!(author)2012-11-07

Nice writeup!

I have a question though.  Since this is a "negative" process the black areas on the photomask are going to be copper free areas on the board.  Toner density problems occur in the central portions of large black areas.  However, these are the places where copper is going to be removed and I'm wondering what difference does a bit of "speckling" in the copper free spaces make since there is no chance it will cause shorts.  The clear areas of the negative will be the various footprints and traces.  The spaces between traces will be very narrow lines and the laser printer can deal with that with no difficulty.

It seems like I'm missing the point of why you are going to all the work of making two copies and gluing them together.  Can you help me out with this?

purpulhaze made it!(author)2012-09-28

Nice instructable. I got some good pointers on making my own pcbs. I have a quick question. How do you cut your pcbs?

I've not been able to get a really clean straight edge. I use a rotary tool with cut off wheel but have also tried using a hack saw, scoring and tin snips but can't get a clean edge. I've been thinking about purchasing an old heavy duty paper cutting, wet tile saw or 8" metal shear (link below).

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Culturedropout made it!(author)2012-07-02

Hi. First off, your Instructable was very informative and useful; thanks for all the work that obviously went into producing it. I've been testing some of the same (or very similar, I believe) etch-resist film you have, with the idea of etching a brass plaque after exposing it through a pair of identical laser-printed transparencies (for better contrast). After two or three failed attempts, I found that throwing the whole thing in a zip-lock bag and zipping it shut on the nozzle of my shop-vac worked pretty nicely to keep everything tight together, and after seeing some sort of banding or striping in the exposure when I tried a fluorescent black-light tube about 10" above the target, I ended up just tossing it out the back door into the sunlight for about 10 minutes and that seemed to work pretty well. I may have to experiment more with exposure time, but it's starting to get pretty close.

The point where everything went to heck was when I tried using this technique to salt-water etch the developed brass plaque.  The resist film pretty much boiled off the surface of the brass after a few minutes, seeming to start around the exposed brass areas left after developing, and bubbling out from there.  So...  am I to conclude that this particular film is not suitable for salt-water electro-etching?  Is  there possibly a different kind that might be?  The article on electro-etching uses a CNC-cut vinyl decal as the etch resist, so I'm sure it's a lot thicker than the film I'm using.  Do you think that's the issue, or does the salt water break down this film?  If so, what's the least toxic etchant you might recommend that would work well with both brass and this film?  Any suggestions would be most appreciated.  Thanks!


ffsman made it!(author)2011-04-15

alternate method used in INDIA:

goto: file menu in Eagle
select: Export
then select: image

A dialog box appears asking where to store the IMAGE of your board
tick: monochrome
(change resolution if you want or leave it to default value )
Select: browse and then save your image file

the image saved is positive image

locate the file
open it using paint
press: ctrl+i ->this will convert positive image to negative image
then save it

c14nz made it!(author)2010-10-02

* how much Na2OH3 (sodium carbonate) solution should be diluted in 500ml of water? NaOH (I know that Peak Out containing 30% NaOH) is not good for development or is too strong (I have seno4007 but I don't know if it's good for this type of film, I know it's good for spray Positiv20)

* can you tell me in what products can be found Na2OH3


FrozenFire made it!(author)2011-01-30

Na2OH3 doesn't exist - if you mean sodium carbonate, that's Na2CO3. Washing soda. Chances are your supermarket sells it.

mrwolfe made it!(author)2010-07-09

I find that a wax printer (e.g tektronix phaser) or a colour laser (e.g HP laserjet 1600) gives pretty good density. Ordinary black and white laser printers are OK, but you have to turn the density up as far as you can. Even then you still get pinholes.

GM2009 made it!(author)2010-05-13

I did my first two runs - step that I thought is easiest (laminating) proved to be most difficult ... for now. I've used UV led box, exposure 3-4 minutes, drain cleaner 1:20 dissolved in water, everything was fine except laminating.

I had a lot of, as you say, blisters. Laminator is same as one on the picture (soverign). I didn't see your reply so I've tried setting 7 and 5 and both were bad.

I am laminating 0.05 brass sheet, not making pcb, so MG method (overlapping) cannot work.

Now I will try to run machine cold and that will probably help. The fact is that film has to adhere to copper perfectly. Any imperfection will ruing etching (dust etc.).

Working with copper clad is probably easier than thin brass sheet but as with everything new practice helps.

incoherent made it!(author)2010-05-13

 Oops, I accidentally replied to myself below so be sure to read that first! Forgot to mention one more step also:

Press all the excess material together to completely seal it.  Then trim with scissors to be sure no uncovered material is exposed as this will stick to the laminator rollers.

Finally run it through the laminator on the cold setting two or three times.

Good luck,

incoherent made it!(author)2010-05-13

 Here's my advice based on countless rounds of laminating/etching:

First put on gloves and eliminate all traces of oil from the substrate by scrubbing with softscrub w/bleach, then dry quickly with an air compressor to avoid oxidation as much as possible.  Do not touch the substrate with bare hands from here out.  I switch from dish gloves to surgical gloves at this point.

Next, cut the photoresist to a sheet large enough to cover the front and fold over to the back (the long way--if not square) with 1/2" extra all around.  peel back just the first half inch of the covering (the dull side on the inside of the curl).  Lay the material over the board, making sure that it is sufficiently aligned to wrap to the back without veering off the board.  Use your thumbs to press the 1/2" exposed section to the board evenly starting at the middle and sliding towards the sides.  If the board is too cold, this won't stick well, but at about 80 degrees F, it will stick quite well.  Unless you're in an igloo, this should be no problem.

Once you've got the first 1/2" adhered, turn the board around so that the adhered portion is facing you and the still-covered film is facing away from you.  Pull the film back one more 1/2" between the board and the free film.  Carefully press the film to the board starting at the middle and working out to the edge being sure to avoid bubbles.  Repeat this process 1/2" at a time until the front of board is covered, then flip the board and do the same on the back side of the board.

Substrate temperature is pivotal--less than ~75 degrees F, and it doesn't stick well enough and bubbles creep back in after you press the film down.  If the temp is ~90 degrees F or more, it will stick too strongly without even pressing, and may stick prematurely and entrap bubbles.

Hope all goes well.  Be sure to post pics--is your UV LED box featured in one of the other instructables?

incoherent made it!(author)2010-05-10

Frankly, I've found that it works best cold--any heat at all, and I get a sort of blistering here and there.

GM2009 made it!(author)2010-05-10

What is laminator setting (temperature)? Thanks.

UltraMagnus made it!(author)2009-04-20

that doesn't look like a PCB done in eagle, what program did you use?

incoherent made it!(author)2009-04-20

Yes, I did it in Eagle except for converting to negatives--that was done in Inkscape. BTW, which part looks non-Eagle-like?

UltraMagnus made it!(author)2009-04-21

I guess the curvyness of the tracks threw me off. I take it you didn't use the autorouter then?

incoherent made it!(author)2009-04-21

I can't stand the autorouter--maybe I'm just doing something wrong, but I never seem to get more than a few wires routed before it quits. I'd like to try to make an autorouter myself someday, but that's a big job...

josheeg made it!(author)2010-03-25

I used eagle autorouter and kicad with freeroute.
Both if the wires are small enough to make it and the grid the routing is done on is small enough and their is enough room it does it free route may take  a wile but my linux computer laptop was dated.

perkinsb1024 made it!(author)2009-04-22

Stay far, far away from autorouter. It will never yield the results that a patient hand and clever eye will. I've never liked the curvy lines though, I use the 45 degree bend lines

pfred2 made it!(author)2009-04-22

Personally I rather like Eagle's autorouter. Some circuits are affected by sharp cornered traces. I doubt circuits much care what you like or not.

UltraMagnus made it!(author)2009-04-28

don't know what problems you people have had with the autorouter, but I have found it works fine once you fiddle with the settings a little.

pfred2 made it!(author)2009-04-29

The autorouter has worked fine for me. I have done some complex boards, single sided, with hardly any uncompleted traces using it. Anyone having troubles with Eagle's autorouter is not using the program correctly. There are tutorials available that teach how the program works. I have used them myself to learn aspects of the program that I did not understand. Though I have to say, learning how to manipulate the routing rules wasn't one of them!

pfred2 made it!(author)2009-04-22

I never had a problem with the autorouter in Eagle. I never make too challenging boards though I guess. I do remember one bug with filling lands in the program though. I wonder if it ever got fixed?

dynaco made it!(author)2009-04-27

thats perfect. But why you dont explain the drilling process?

Sandisk1duo made it!(author)2009-04-28

it isn't needed, everything is surface mount

SuperFungus made it!(author)2010-01-23

I think he was refering to vias which are commonly used even on surface mount boards.  These are holes which go between layers of a pcb to carry signals from one layer to another.  In a normal pcb process these are plated, it seems with the process described here you'd need to manually solder in conductors to make the vias work.

incoherent made it!(author)2009-04-28

Wow, I totally spaced that!! Yeah, there are lots of holes required for vias and a few through-hole components. I'll have to add a page on drilling. Thanks for the reminder! --incoherent

dynaco made it!(author)2009-04-29

if you use some kind of chemical via metalisation - please explain it too.
And of course the minimum diameter of holes =)

incoherent made it!(author)2009-04-29

I've attempted electroless tin plating using Philmore/Datak Tinnit with results almost as disastrous as with their spray-on resist. I saw a Howto site that used MG's electroless tin plating, but I haven't tried it yet (and I can't find the site at the moment). This site is worth looking at in the mean time.

incoherent made it!(author)2009-04-29

Here's the instructable that uses MG's electroless tin plating solution.

ReCreate made it!(author)2009-04-29

Wow,where is your avatar?

ReCreate made it!(author)2009-04-29

Like this

jeff-o made it!(author)2009-12-17

Hmmm, I wonder if you could use galvanic (aka electrolysis) etching for this step...

drleavsy made it!(author)2009-12-04

I suggest to use 100-200 UV LED (12V power supply) in the form of array as it was described in, then there is no need to take care about collimation and about fragile tubes and stuff. I believe the time of exposure can be really short about 1 min as it described in aforementioned source . 

GM2009 made it!(author)2009-08-27

I have Samsung ML-2510 and printing on transparent foil was not so good (not dense and visible printing lines - toner was quite used). Also tried my office printer (prof. quality). It produced very uniform black (fresh toner) but not dense enough. Two foil would be just perfect. Very good output was produced with HP C5580 InkJet printer. Used 1200dpi resolution, grayscale, Black Ink Only, Ink Volume heaviest. Result is really good, sharp. Double overlapping foil is not needed. Printer is brand new though, I do not know if result will change over the time. Still didn't finish complete process. Etching is not used for PCB (even though I might later) but for Brass etching (model photoecthed parts). I do not know if other InkJets will produce good result to. Somebody else can add more tests. Selection of printers is kind of limited. For example, many Epson models will not print on transparency anymore (printer will not recognize media). Most of HP printers do print on foil. Most of Canon printers have limited B&W; resolution of 600x600 dpi. Not good enough for fine work. As for etching I used Peroxide and Muriatic acid for test. When it was fresh it was fine but after one day it seams like it is not strong enough? Etching brass of 0.1-0.3mm thickness is much slower than cooper clad CB and it is bit more complicated since two sided etching is required and sometimes embossed as well.

JoeyJunior made it!(author)2009-07-16

Nice job. One question though, why did you use curved lines instead of 45 degree angles?

incoherent made it!(author)2009-07-20

Just for fun really. I've been toying with writing an autorouter using a spring & damper model like that used in Graphviz. Curvey lines can be applied to accommodate obstructions, frequency/EM sensitivity increases tension, etc.. That effort is a ways down the list right now, though...

mikeg103002 made it!(author)2009-06-01

NECESSITY is the mother of invention... not adversity...

incoherent made it!(author)2009-06-04

Yeah, publishing at 3AM has its drawbacks! I realized that after I posted it, but I just haven't gotten around to rewriting it.

john-louis made it!(author)2009-05-19


Thanks for that, I have had a look and see what you mean about the channeling / frame construction. I have been thinking about the glass vs bag approach and think maybe a double sided frame with glass on one side and film / thick transparrent plastic on the other - kind of like yours but transparrent plastic - may give the best results as one side can stretch and "vacuum form" to the shape of the board.
I will measure up and start playing when I get back from uni in a week (last week of exams =D)

john-louis made it!(author)2009-05-17

Hi, thanks for replying!
Alex is indeed my real name, john louis the middle bits =D
I have spent a good while thinking about this frame, I need to do some .5mm pitch surface mount stuff soon so was planning a complete UV box rebuild - the current one is a classic scanner enclosure (using lid for pressure) and philips solarium lamp job. I plan to use an atachie case with a raising lid (on collapsable telescopic style stilts) with the UV lights in the bottom of the case, along with vacuum pump and ballists and (possibly) a collimator - if I can figure out what is really needed for one.

A removable double sided glass vacuum frame for doing double sided work near the lid / stored in the lid - but slidable up and down the stilts.
I was thinking of getting two really simple picture frames and milling a trough (moat) around the outside of the glass and then putting a thin rubber seal around the outside of the trough, then threading a fitting into the trough from the outside, allowing the glass surfaces to almost touch when vacuumed together, hence working kind of like a flower press on the PCB. My only worries is that the glass may crack or that because neither of the surfaces have any "give" the requires pressure will not have the desired effect...
From your description I assume the U section channel is on the top bit (with the plastic sheeting) and the pipe tapped into the U channel?


incoherent made it!(author)2009-05-18


Here are some pics of my vacuum frame. Incidentally, I scanned a pre-registered, double-sided transparency while working on the PCB instructable and found the scan made it appear to be very poorly registered (see 4th pic in the series). I think this was due to the very-wide-angle nature of the scanner optics as well as the the separation of the layers despite the lid being closed. The effect could have been caused by total internal reflection even if the layers were tightly pressed together, but I never tried it again with a vacuum bag/frame to diagnose the problem. The point is that the scanner lid may not press as effectively as you might think. Oh, yeah (ADD moment here), you might be able to make a kind of hybrid vacuum frame/bag by placing a transparent plastic film between the glass and the frame.


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