Introduction: Knex Semi-Automatic Rifle: the KLS V.2

Hello Instructables community!

Behold my latest project: the KLS V.2, or the Kinetic Last Stand V.2.  The KLS V.2 is a semi automatic Knex gun that has a flat range of about 40+ ft and features 6 shot removable horizontal magazines with internal pushers.  For those of you unfamiliar to Knex guns, semi automatic guns are a big deal because with Knex weaponry, every ounce of energy that fires the bullet comes from you.  Even in traditional Knex repeaters it is you that pulls back the ramrod, all the rubber bands do is store that energy until it is ready to be utilized.  However pulling back a ramrod and pulling back a trigger are two very different things, as much more energy can be stored in a pullback length of 8 inches as opposed to a pullback length of one inch.  That is why the key factor of any semi-automatic gun is efficiency.  When all you have to work with are your fingers and an inch of pullback, you are not going to want any of that energy to go to waste. 

This design, based off Louis XIV's "Speed Loader", utilizes the mechanism that he stumbled upon, with just a few improvements.  This mechanism works by kind of squeezing the shot out of the gun, which happens to be one of the most efficient ways to utilize the energy of your finger.  

With the squeeze of the trigger, you can launch a gray connector 40+ feet, depending on how strong you are, and with this gun's semi automatic capability, it does so at an amazing rate.  This is definitely the best weapon I have built thus far, as it is reliable, powerful, innovative, and just plain cool.  I hope you enjoy it as much as I do.

Building Warnings: 
-This gun requires 1 mandatory broken part, and a couple more for perfect performance.  The optional ones will be identified throughout the Instructable.
-THIS GUN EATS UP RUBBER BANDS!  Make sure you have plenty of spares (I have about 3000 rubber bands :P)
-*This is a complex build, Follow the directions exactly.  Everything is the way it is for a reason.*

Here are some videos so you know exactly what you are building:

Preview Video:

More Up-To-Date Video:

*This gun is now part of the Launch It! Challenge.  If you think this gun deserves it, please give it your vote!*
 
      LETS GET TO BUILDING!

Check out Knex Gun Builder's review here.

Step 1: The Handle and Lift

Each number corresponds to each image respectively:

1.  The handle and lift of the gun.  The handle is quite sturdy and comfortable, as there are no rods sticking out.  Also contains the lift that will move the round upwards into the firing mechanism.
2. Make two of these, one with the blue rod and one without the blue rod.
3. Make these. Notice that the middle one has a broken orange connector.  This does not have to be broken, but it may interfere with trigger pull.
4.  Attach to handle plate like so.
5.  Connect the muddle layer to the white rod.
6.  Attach the final piece you made in step 3.  Notice the green rod going through the green connector.
7.  Attach the second outer plate you made in step 2.
8. Get these three pieces.  The broken piece is the stub of a white rod.  You will use the stubless white rod and both stubs so save them.
9.  Put the blue rod through the red connectors, and rest the pusher on the orange connector, connecting the pusher to a protruding black rod on the bottom of the handle with a rubber band.  (I had a second view but it wouldn't load I'll try again later)

You are done with the handle!

Step 2: The Receiver and Trigger


Each number explains each image respectively:

1.  The receiver: this is the most complex part of the gun and includes the firing mechanism, the trigger, the band guides, and the firing bands.  We will add the rubber bands in this step because they are very difficult to attach once the gun is built.
2.  Make two of the outer plates, one with the blue rods and one without them.  *Do not break the Y-connectors.  They are not necessary.  Pretend they aren't there!*
3.  This is the firing mechanism.  You are going to make this in steps 4-9.
4.  The broken white rode mentioned in step 1.  Keep all three pieces.
5.  Make these.  Notice where the broken pieces are.
6.  Connect the pieces as shown.  The part indicated will rest where it is unrestrained until later.  Just try to keep it in place until then.
7.  Obtain the amount of rubber bands you plan to use.  I find that 2 #64's and 1 #32 grant the most power with the while maintaining a comfortable trigger pull.  Use more or less depending on your grip strength.
8.  Place the rubber bands around the black rod as shown.
9.  Attach the outer plate of the firing mechanism.
10.  Make these parts.
11.  Obtain these as well.
12.  Attach your first layer of parts to the outer plate where shown.
13.  Temporarily remove this part from the firing mechanism.
14.  Attach the firing mechanism where shown.
15.  Obtain these pieces.
16.  Place them where shown.
17.  Reattach the part that you broke off in step 13.
18.  This is what it should look like so far.
19.  Attach your second layer of parts from step 10.
20. Attach the final layer of parts from step 10 and the piece from step 11.
21.  The trigger.
22.  Obtain these pieces.  The electrical tape helps provide comfort and strengthens the trigger.  The broken piece is not necessary but is recommended. 
23.  Put them together like this.
24.  Another view.
25.  And another.
26.  Place the trigger on the blue rod as shown.
27.  Attach outer plate.
28.  Obtain these pieces for the band guide.  Yes, the face was intentional :=I
29.  Attach them like so.  These will allow the bands to stretch smoothly as well as keep them from interfering with the bullet.
30.  Obtain two black/green rods.
31.  Place them as shown so that they go through the gray connectors.  Do this on both sides.

Step 3: The Stock

Each number explains each image respectively:

1.  The stock.  A rather simple part, this contains the mag release and can be made longer to accommodate larger magazines.
2.  Make two of the outer plates, one with the blue rods and one...I thing you've got the hang of it by now.
3.  This is the first layer of pieces, make these.
4. Attach the first layer to the outer plate as shown.
5.  The second layer of pieces.  Make these and don't forget the black/green rod where indicated.
6.  Attach the second as shown.
7.  The third layer of pieces, make these.
8.  Attach them to the stock as shown.
9.  Attach the outer layer of the stock.
10.  Make this piece.  I used a #16 rubber band but a #32 would work as well.
11.  Attach it here. 
12.  Connect the rubber band to the back of the stock.
13.  This is what the finished stock should look like.

Step 4: Put It Together

Each number explains each image respectively:

1.  Obtain the Handle from step 1 and the receiver from step 2.
2.  Connect them at the connection points indicated.
3.  Make sure the lift finds its way between the blue clips.
4.  Obtain the stock and the receiver with handle.
5.  Connect the stock as shown. 
6.  Top view, connect the gray connector to the half moon.

Congrats!  You have completed the gun!

Step 5: Magazine Assembly

Each number explains each image respectively:

1.  The magazine.  This is a unique horizontal internal pusher removable magazine that I developed.  It is because of the horizontal feeding that this gun can function.  This magazine does use a lot of pieces, but can also be made using white connectors and still function perfectly.  This just looks better.
2.  The outer plate.  Make two of these, one with blue rods and one without.
3.  Obtain these pieces.  They will make up the first layer of the magazine.
4.  Attach the first layer to the outer plate as shown.
5.  These will make up the middle layer of the magazine. 
6.  Attach them as shown.
7. The final layer of the magazine.  Obtain these.
8.  Attach them as shown.
9.  Attach the final layer of the magazine.
10.  Make these pieces.  They will make up the pusher and ammo guides for the magazine.  The broken gray connector should be a ball socket.  I just didn't have any.
11.  Put them together to form the ammo pusher and guides.
12.  Break the magazine where shown.
13.  Insert pusher under broken part as shown.
14.  Reconnect the broken part of the magazine.
15.  Obtain a blue rod and a doubled up #16 rubber band.
16.  Attach the rubber band to the blue rod as shown.
17.  Connect the blue rod with the rubber band to the magazine where shown.
18.  Attach a red connector to the magazine where shown.
19. Connect the rubber band to the mag pusher as shown.

You are done with the magazine!  Make as many as you want!

Step 6: Loading, Firing, Etc...

Each number explains each image respectively:

1.  Extend the firing bands over the band guides.
2.  Bring them down and attach them to the blue rods on each side.
3.  Pull back the magazine pusher until it clicks.  This means that it is locked in place.
4.  Insert gray connectors as shown.  For some reason, the round will fire upward when loaded in this orientation if there are not enough rubber bands on the firing mechanism.  It shoots straight with the rubber bands shown in the Instructable, but if you are using less you may want to flip them and load them opposite the orientation that I am in the picture.
5. Load the magazine beneath the stock.
6.  Unlock the pusher by pushing it forward a bit.
7.  Aim and pull the trigger.
8.  After firing your six shots, pull back the pusher.
9.  Press the release to eject the magazine, and repeat steps 3-7!

Congratz on building the KLS V.2 I really hope you enjoy it as much as do!

-Kinetic

Step 7: Looking Ahead...

This picture is of two new ideas of mine.

First person who can tell me what either of them are supposed to do will get a patch!

I am going to tell everyone what they are on Aug 1st so put those minds to work and let me know what you think!

*The bottom left is a magazine and the rest is the components of a gun.  THEY ARE COMPLETELY UNRELATED.*

EDIT:  Bwbt1 was able to figure out the magazine!

The easy to use shotgun mag:
         Based off an airsoft magazine, this top loading, easy-to-use shotgun magazine contains nearly all internal elements, aside from the ratchet you have to wind.  It may be a little large considering the kind of ammo it is using, but will be a very fun and effective magazine to use.

EDIT:  Crazykiddo figured out the gun!  
        
The RAID:
        These are my plans for the Revolving Automatic Insect Destroyer (think about it...).  This fully automatic turret rifle will act much like a real gun in the way that it uses cartridges with pre-contained energy to fire off each shot.  However unlike a real gun,  each cartridge only contains the loaded firing ram, while the cylinder contains the shots.  When the trigger is pulled, the white piece will come down on the block trigger of the cartridge and release the ram, in turn striking the cylinder and firing the projectile.  Because the ram is no longer where it was (the ram was blocking the cartridge from moving upward), the cartridge will move upward a slight bit, and the rotation of the cylinder will cause the gears directly above the cartridge to rotate, thus ejecting the cartridge, because the cartridge is directly between two of the gear teeth.  When the next cartridge takes its place, its block trigger will be moved and the process will repeat.

Comments

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matthew9876 (author)2016-06-11

I made it it works perfectly

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Kinetic (author)matthew9876 2016-06-17

Gladto hear it! Happy shooting!

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megustatrains (author)2013-09-13

1 of the best guns ever. made it and it is very reliable indeed.

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LvNo1000 (author)2013-08-11

A five-star gun, nice job. I will see how many pieces I can get back from it from TheRacker's comment photos

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PotatoCoffee (author)2012-09-29

Like a bigger more complex version of KillerSafe~Cracker's Semi-Auto pistol! =P

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TheRacker (author)2011-09-10

You guys use too many pieces:

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sferrl (author)TheRacker2012-08-28

is there instructions for this
if not pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeas make some

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TheRacker (author)sferrl2012-08-31

I just strung the rubber bands around the back of the gun instead of down the post that he has, and took off the top of the stock and the elaborate mag release.

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TheRacker (author)TheRacker2011-09-11

Is this comment showing up?

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sferrl (author)2012-08-25

*screams very loudly in head but just says darn out loud*
i don't have nearly enough pieces
even just for the receiver and trigger
I NEED A LOT OF PIECES

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Kinetic (author)sferrl2012-08-27

SORRY MAN!!!

If you look a couple comments down, you can see that TheRacker managed to build the gun with about a third less pieces. You might be able to manage if you tried to replicate his design.

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loyamann123 (author)2012-07-10

This is such a good gun as well as a good idea, its really beautiful the way you made it, I hope you major in engineering in college, because you are going to make the 8th wonder of the world

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Kinetic (author)loyamann1232012-07-10

You don't have any idea how much that means to me. I am going to major in Mechanical engineering and Spanish, with a minor in philosophy. It might seem like a lot, but I have found solace in the art of mechanical design, as well as the art of writing and philosophy. These are my gifts, and it is my responsibility to share them with the world. That's where spanish comes in. It is a good stepping-stone for future languages, and the more languages I speak, the more types of people I will be able to share my gifts with.

Again, thank you. This is support that I rarely find from anybody, and I won't forget it.

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loyamann123 (author)Kinetic2012-07-10

Are you currently a junior, or do you already know which college you are going to go to, if you dont mind me asking.
I am curious, isn't it better to keep your language as a minor and philosophy as your double major?

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Kinetic (author)loyamann1232012-07-11

No, I graduated about a month ago, and will be going to the University of Rhode Island, as it was the best option for the price. And I would love to major in philosophy, but there is already a program in place at URI that is designed to allow students to double major in a language and in engineering, as well as study abroad for a semester. I would triple major, but with engineering as one of those majors, that would be nigh impossible.

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Johnhall44 (author)2012-04-26

hhhhmmmmm......I have tried something like this before but the mag had to be compact in order for it to work in the gun I made for it,it failed horribly.

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ynohtna1 (author)2012-04-06

piece count?

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rlaxrlax (author)2011-10-10

do i need a ball socket or can i just use the broken grey connecter

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rlaxrlax (author)2011-10-10

i finised it but my bulets fly straight up

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TheAwesomestDude (author)2011-09-05

awesome im building right now

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laserbeam (author)2011-09-04

i found the pieces in my friends bedroom and e let me have them because he has no usse for a broken up white rod

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laserbeam (author)2011-09-02

mu white rod wont break what should i do

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Kinetic (author)laserbeam2011-09-04

Hmmm...well this it is pretty important...try scissors or wire cutters?

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knexguy (author)2011-08-25

I'm actually going to build this. First thing in a year, well done on persuading me.

I'll put it in a nice body and post some pictures.

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skyfaller (author)2011-08-20

Darn, i just wish this gun used no broken pieces! D: I would've built two, then... you know.


OWN EVERYTHING.

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KnexFreak360 (author)2011-08-10

This is a great gun, but had problems with the mag. It would jam often and not feed rounds. I fixed this by adding a non-remaovable magazine that takes less pieces and it shorter too. It holds 7 rounds and shoots much better due to mods to other parts of the gun. Love the gun!

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TheRacker (author)KnexFreak3602011-08-19

I would really love a picture. Im trying to put on a fixed mag for more cap and reliability. I just cant get it. A pic would be great.

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Kinetic (author)KnexFreak3602011-08-12

Sorry the mag didn't work out for you...I don't know why. What you did sounds cool can I see a picture maybe?

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KnexFreak360 (author)Kinetic2011-08-14

You should check out my full auto i got inspired to make it after i made this.

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KnexFreak360 (author)Kinetic2011-08-13

i will try to get one.

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TigerNod (author)2011-08-09

Just finished it. Amazing, though I still have some troubleshooting. Yet it was well worth the effort even if it was only for the coolness of the removale magazine. ;-)

Two more problems I have encountered: the mag-pusher does not push the last three rounds in the magazine. This is probably because rthe bands on my pusher aren't tight enough, but if I'd make them any tighter they would snap.

Second one is that sometimes bullets launch straight upwards instead of forwards. Do you happen to know why this is?

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Kinetic (author)TigerNod2011-08-09

Haha glad you like it. For the magazine problem I would recommend using tighter bands if you can find them, or talk to Knex Gun Builder because he had the same problem but managed to mod the magazine to fix it. To eliminate the "arc" just place the bullets in the mag with the curved side up Hope this helped.

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TigerNod (author)Kinetic2011-08-12

Cool, thanks. I'll make a review of this when I can, if you don't mind?

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Kinetic (author)TigerNod2011-08-12

Yeah that would be great thanks!

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mettaurlover (author)2011-07-28

Built the gun. Ran out of green rods before I could build mags, so I made a green rod-less single shot converter. It's a pain to load, but it gets good results.

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Kinetic (author)mettaurlover2011-07-29

Think I can see a picture of what you did? If you can somehow make it easy to load 2 or 3 at a time, you could still fire it in bursts.

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mettaurlover (author)Kinetic2011-07-29

Well, I could probably do that by modifying the structure of the gun, but that would require green rods. My converter isn't able to hold more than one shot at a time, and often jams the gun.

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Kinetic (author)mettaurlover2011-08-08

Hmmm...think I could see a picture of what you did to it?

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mettaurlover (author)Kinetic2011-08-08

I don't have a camera right now, but it's not at all a change to the gun itself. I'ts just a single chamber magezine.

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~KGB~ (author)2011-08-08

ive finished this now, ill post a pic later, just one problem tho, every time i shoot a bullet it just goes up in the air, any fixes??

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Kinetic (author)~KGB~2011-08-08

Yeah, put the bullets in the other way or increase the tension of the bands.

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~KGB~ (author)Kinetic2011-08-08

So the curve facing the front? heres some pics, i added a safety and had to remake the magazine because the band placement wouldnt work, it hold 5 shots.

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Kinetic (author)~KGB~2011-08-08

Yeah with the curve facing the front. And I love the safety idea I am going to put one on mine. Sorry the band placement didn't work out for you...did you not have #16's?

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~KGB~ (author)Kinetic2011-08-08

Ok. nice =D i have loads just that there is not enough tension on the bands to pull the pusher towards the reciever.

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Kinetic (author)~KGB~2011-08-08

Did you double it up?

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~KGB~ (author)Kinetic2011-08-08

Yes, i think its the friction inside the magazine where the orange connectors pass the blue rings...

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Kinetic (author)~KGB~2011-08-08

Huh...doesn't happen to me but ill look into that.

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~KGB~ (author)Kinetic2011-08-08

Ok, thanks.

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Sharir1701 (author)2011-08-07

anyway, i think i got it though... it's this mag with a drum of balls or whatever connected by a chain to act as the mag pusher and push cartridges out into the gun. when fired somehow, the pre-loaded ram on each cartridge shifts and thus the cartridge can go out of the gun while a new one takes it's place... in conclusion, some kind of awesome new invention of a k'nex full auto rifle (could be used as a shotgun).

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Kinetic (author)Sharir17012011-08-08

You got the right ideas but people already guessed them :( Glad you were able to figure them out though.

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