My friend Justin, wanted my help to make a LED Tube Light, so this is the result for all of you to see.
The tube light is a row of LED's which runs on 110 or 220 volts AC, just like your ordinary Fluorescent Tube Light.
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100 pieces or more of Very Bright White LED's of 5mm size.
1-or more Non Polarized Capacitor .33uF to .47uF rated 250v to 300 volts for ----110v AC
1-or more Non Polarized Capacitor .22 uF rated 400 volts -for 220 volts for AC
1 or more Resistance of 1k -1 watt for ----110v AC
1 or more Resistance of 1k - 1/2 watt for ----220v AC
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I built the circuit a couple ways and used a .33uf 500v and a .47uf 450 cap, but the LEDs flash then get super dim. If the cap is discharged then they light up for a split second then dim again. Any ideas?
NOT 500 Volts.
If i were to use 3.3vf 350ma rated leds, would i need different caps/resistors?
or is there a formula to calculate these values?
Thanks again. I will see how long these 5mm 3.3 20ma leds last on this setup.
Great job posting this since i have been looking all over for this.
okay im having some difficulties deciphering the schematic to real-world components and have been trying to do this on my own for the last 2 weeks, please please please would you be able to email me the details for this project too, my email address is:
offtherails2010@yahoo.co.uk
many thanks in advance for the extra help with this as i now have all the parts needed to make 5 sets of 30 LED segments for my magnifier lamp but am stuck on how to wire them up, im only still learning electronics and do make my own PCB's but a computer software takes care of that but with any instructable that i must translate the schematic to solder components i get terribly lost !
Please help whenever you are able to !
;-)
Below is some photo's of the magnifier lamp housing and some stripboard strips ive cut (as i didnt really want to drill holes for 150 LEDs that i plan to use as 5 sets of 30 LED's !)
Once again many thanks in advance Dipankar ji,
(sorry i somehow messed up the replies here and double posted some photo's! i do apologise!)
kindest regards,
Anil
I am a TV Journalist Based at Indore, Madhya Pradesh. I am also associated with one of the oldest Non Profit making organisation of Madhya-Pradesh, which is committed for the promotion of Hindi and all other Indian languages, art and literature.
We were searching for some guidance to make it and i came on this page.
Sir we have arranged a electrician to make LED Tubelight according to the circuit given by you, Though we have prepared a basic cicuit of 10 LEDs (i will mail you a a photo or video of this) but we are facing some problems such as
1. which kind of LED Should be used .
2.We have used a acrylic plat for fixing LEDS. We made holes in that and fitted LEDs in those holes. LEDS are open from outer side. Could you please suggest any specific material placing LEDS and to cover this LEDS so that it may also look good.
I will be highly obliged if you could also give me your mobile no. my cell no. is 094250-52811
Thanking you again
Regeards
Subodh Khandelwal,
samiti.indore@gmail.com
my emaill id is muneebmufas@yahoo.com
thnx in advnce
Firstly i much thank you so very very much Dipankar ji !!!
This is exactly what ive been needing to make a light source for my magnifier lamp !!!
I have a question though, ive only started learning electronics and ive started soldering some SMD components and find it much more fun to solder only because it saves me so much time drilling holes in my home made PCB's and i have bought 100 LED's all 3020 SMD Size, here are the specs of them:
Reverse Voltage: 5.0 V
DC Forward Voltage: Min: 3.0V Max: 3.6V
DC Forward Current: 20mA
But i only want to use 50 or 60 Maximum of these Bright LED's and save the rest for a few other projects i want to make and as they produce alot of heat my magnifier lamp's original LED Bulbs kept frying the little Bridge Rectifier SMD Chip due to prolonged use of the bulb due to heat generated from the LED's so im going to make a custom LED Bulb or my own and space out the LED's so that they dont all collectively gather up so much heat but the problem i have is:
Can i still use your schematic to only use, say, 60 LED's only ?
i only want to use 60 MAX because i really cant afford to buy more and your other projects are simply put - AWESOME !!!!!!
& i really want to save the rest of the LED's for those projects !
Ohhh please please please would you be able to help ?!!?
See the Diagram.
i have finally received the capacitors and am ready to start creating one of these for my long dead magnifying lamp !!
Two last questions, if i may, lol !
This 1st question is from a hypothetical point of view:
Would it be easy to include some kind of dimmer-type device (perhaps like a Potentiometer ?) to allow the LED Banks to be adjustable ? if so what value of Pot would i use and where would i wire it upto, if a Pot would be capable of this job, i wouldnt know, only beginning electronics myself !
Once again Dipankarji, so very many thanks again for sharing your extremely easy to follow instructions with us all and also for the help you still continue to give everyone, i think i'd speak for everyone by saying we are very grateful & highly appreciate all that you do !
have a great day !
Anil
;-)
I am also novice to electronics. But i am very eager to learn about electronics and LEDs. my Email ID is laxmi_bsnl@rediff.com. Please explain to me also from the start with diagrams.
Thanking you, waiting for ur reply.
can you please send me also the explanation or theory of this awesome project. i would also want to learn to hook up led in AC source.. Thank you very much
my email coma.james@gmail.com
I would be obliged if you could send me the detailed explanations of your circuit.
Look forward to hear from you.
Thank you
Atma
atma.atma@gmail.com
This is Dinesh. Newly Joined this forum. Can you please send me the details of this tube light completely. I want to make one for myself. IS there any better design you have now. If yes, please provide me those details.
Please Mail me the Explanation and Circuit Diagrams as well.
My ID is iamhusain@yahoo.com
Thanks.
my id is avinashinde2020@hotmail.com
this is my email id...
jhymz@hotmail.com thanks..
i have 1 question also? the non polarised capacitor 220vf 250 volts can also help to reduce my electricity bill consumption?
or can you give me some diagram to lessen my electric consumption
thanks.. :-D
thnx
i just want to know that these led are in series or parallel?
my e-mail id is chnaveed.alam@yahoo.com
hope to get quick response from u
thnx
when i attached .27j 400v it gave me better the 1st .27 j is equl to 2 microfarad
i could not find .22uf cap what if i attached .22uf cap does it give me better then above or give me low light
If you use 0.27uf / 400v on 220 volt AC the LED life is reduced.
can u explain it
answer me plzzzzzz
and tell me plz how to calculate capacitor value for 220 v and 120 etc
It should be 0.22uf of 400 volts.
i changed it now working very well
can u help me to make 4 watt 220 v ac powered led bulb
1 more thing how to calculate a capacitor value for a circuit
i.g .22uf 400v for led ac circuit. how you calculate it
Regards
4 into 300= 1200mA.
Better use a Transformer of 12volts 2 Amps. DC.
Can you please explain the diagram a bit more as I am not sure how I am to connect the LED's. 1. Are they to be connected in "Series"? 2. What does the green and blue arrow heads signify? Is it the LED's? 3. If they are LED's then how are we to connect all the Positives & negatives as shown in the diagrams? 4. Can you explain how the legs of the LED's, that is the positive & negative legs are to be connected? I am sorry for asking such silly questions, but as I said I am a novice & hence am confused with the diagram.
my mail ID is amit.k.chaudhary09@gmail.com
Each LED consumes 15milli watt.
By doing this there is a drop in voltage and glow of the LED's are reduced.
600hp@live.com
I think you are referring to the two design done by drako-fire.............
Thanking You
Adit Pal
or resistance ijal gaya
can i use 1watt k2k Resistance ?
only 1 shop at lamington road - Led Store is reasonable shop
Contact : 9673588161
Person : Mr. Romi
RIGHT
RED dot the live wire and the green dot the neutral.
I get my LED's from the local shop.
Any Electronics part shop in INDIA has them.
Which town are you from?
only 1 shop at lamington road - Led Store is reasonable shop
Contact : 9673588161
Person : Mr. Romi
We can also provide you capacitors ,Diodes and resistors and transistors.
With Regards,
G.Naik
plz send me your email id so we can contact you for components and future bussiness my email id sharmamilind@rediffmail.com
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I hope this helps.
Can you send me your contact info at my email id : rbleds@gmail.com
I need to discuss with you lot of stuff
I asked for 0.22uf 400v capacitor they gave me 224 J 400v. Is it the same value? can i use it?
You should parallel two of it and the setup will be equivalent to 0.44uf.
NOT 220 VOLT AC
33uF to .47uF FOR 110 Volts AC
.22uf FOR 220 VOLTS AC
Nowhere I have said to put .33uF to .47uF to 220 volt
I asked for 0.22uf 400v capacitor they gave me 224 J 400v. Is it the same value? can i use it?" and didnt thought he is talking about 220V.
can u tell me electronic market in mumbai.. and the starting circuit shahudit007@gmail.com
I checked with this (224 J / 400v) capacitor its working, only problem is resistor is getting heated any idea?
It's a very nice project. But i'm facing problem. I made the same project you illustrated of 15+15 in a row using a 5mm small LED. I used 1K -1/2 Watt resistance but the shopkeeper gave me 225J/400v Non polarized capacitor instead of .22uf - 400v. on giving the power supply it did worked nice but the resistance burnt just after 10 seconds. I used 120K, 1M, 220K all 1/4 Watt it also worked but the light of LED got very Dimm. Please help me where am i wrong.
My e-mail ID :- nayyaradit@yahoo.co.in
Mobile :- 09876600948
Thanking You
Adit Pal
What you should be interested in is the current through your LEDs, and that can be calculated this way:
For each cycle (+ or -), you have 15 of them. So that means together they 'need' 15 * 3.3v or about 50v.
Now the 220 vac puts out 220 * 1.4 or 308v (this is from my Instructable).
So, the "leftover" volts the cap need to handle is 308-50, or 258volts peak.
Now the REAL maths: the resistance of the .22uF cap:
1 / (2 * pi * freq * C) which works out to 14.5K-ohms for 50c/s. (that's why we need AC)
Now current, i = V/R, so for we have 258/14500 = 18mA, which is also what is allowed to go through the LEDs in your circuit. Now remember that this is only for half the time, so it's REALLY safe for the LED.
But fortunately, we have another set of LEDs lighting in the OTHER half of the time, plus our eyes have a thing called persistence of vision which remembers the brightest light for about 1/20 of a second, and so your light 'appears' to be almost as bright as a LED that is constantly lit at 17mA, which is about 75% of maximum brightness.
Thanks for your reference i'll work on it and revert back to you.
Please can you send me the photo of the capacitor and the resistance. what does 225J mean (Does it mean a .25uF capacitor with J as 5% tolerance). Today i bought one capacitor and this is what is written on it F .22J ND 400V ( will this one work) and the color code of the resistance is brown black red Golden 1/2 Watt.
Thanks
Adit Pal
Thanks
Adit Pal
Please dont mind anything upon my saying. If i wrote anything bad please excuse me for that and i say sorry for that. If i go for some higher value resistance and higher in wattage will it work. Eg say 10 K 2 or 3 Watt resistance.
Also please can you provide me with the schematic for making a tube with 1 watt LED's which has the capability of fully lightening the room. and also i want to convert my conceal lights to 4 to 5 watt LED and the halogens in the office to High power LED's . Please can you help me and also please provide me your mobile No. so that i can contact you for any help.
Thanking You
Adit Pal
You can contact me on 09876600948
If this is possible we would have a led-tube that can be exchanged wit a fluorescent tube.
Thanks,
Rob from the Netherlands
Looking for the advise about this.
Thanks
Xin
Make one and see it for yourself.
can you suggest me electronics project about LED which is latest
pls. send me details on my mail id
Just signed up to instructables. You say to use "Non Polarized Capacitor .22 uF rated 400 volts -for 220 volts for AC". About the voltage rating of the capacitor, you say "rated 400 volts" do you mean "400v ac or 400v dc".
thanks
enjoy,
Gyro
I know someone earlier had requested the same on this forum but i too need your help to construct an LED tube light of 100 5mm leds dual power operated (AC 220 and DC). when AC power goes off the LED load shifts automatically on battery power which auto charges when AC 220 is available. In other words, when the main power is available, the light runs on the 220VAC directly and charges the battery and when the main is turned off due to load shedding, the light runs through the charged battery.
Please help me with a circuit diagram by mailing it directly to my email address latif.azharATgmail.com
thanks & much regards,
AL
Connect it to a 3 Volt battery and see if it glows or not.
What is the size of the LED's?
5mm or 10mm or Bigger?
What is the working volt?
The working volt should be 3.5 volts.
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(sorry for my english)
Because AC is Alternate Current Means, + - + - + - + - + - + - + -
or vvvvvvvvvvvvvv up-Down-up-down-up down
DC is Direct Current means,+ + + + + + + + + + + +
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I am electronics hobbyist. I have worked on many electronic gadgets which successfully created from many authors circuit idea by the rigor of my best analysis and experiment. My current project is creating LED tube light and I have found you on a website when on searching this related topic on Google. Moreover, I want to evince you that I have not guided through electronics or nor have passed from science stream. So, I earnestly requested you that please guide me on LED series, which had attached as picture.
I saw your precious idea on LED tube light circuit that you had kept on your web blog.
But I want to gather more idea on this system and then please draw up a circuit for me and which also stud on my below points:
1. Low power consumption.
2. Long operation life.
2. High Lumens Output. (Please also mention, What type of LED use? Which is easily available in India (cities like Kolkata)?
3. Totally Flicker Free.
Any attention shown to me will greatly oblige.
Thanking you,
Yours obediently,
Soumitra Paul
Durgapur-10, Dist.: Burdwan
West Bengal, India.
Mobile: +91 9330033560 / 9093130413
eMail: paul.soumitra@gmail.com
dear sir, i need your help to construct a LED tube light consist 100 5mm leds dual power operated (AC 220 and DC). when AC power is goes off the led load shift automatic on battery power which auto charge during AC 220 is available and led tube run on 220 VAC directly.
Please help me to prepare a circuit diagram and mail me my email address awaheedak@yahoo.com
i shall be thankful to you for this
regards
waheed
i have another doubt can i make myown pcb with ease?
Why not it's very easy.
and .47 uf /250 volts for 110 volt AC.
Thanks for yr help.
In this project I have not used a Transformer but you can see my another project where I have used a Transformer " LED CHANDELIER AC " and "SPIRAL LED CHANDELIER" where I have used 240 LED's.
As per ur ckt diagram, if we limit current to 100 mA, then the power will be 230*0.1=23 W. will this give equivalent brightness of fluorescent lamp?. what is the current limit if we want to use x no of leds and 2x no of leds?
pls answer.
Hari balaji
If you use 5mm White LED's with a transformer then you can get bright light.
If we limit the current to 100 mA, then the LED's will overload which is not advisable.
1.To which current we have to limit? depending on that only we need to select the capacitor and resistor know.
2.Will it give the brightness of our existing fluorescent lamp??????
3.Will the wattage be 230 * Current limited ?????????
4.will the led give sufficient brightness with 15 mA?
5.can we choose high watt leds????
need answers for all. give me ur mail id, so that we can discuss more...
thanks
i think i fin'lly found a solution for my high electricity consumption on light alone.....anyway....i'm just a little bit confused about the diagram.....could you please send me the full detail of the project.....im using 220vAC...so please please please......help me with this very helpful project of yours....
more power dude....
and more projects to buld..
clevejr_septwin2@yahoo.com
thank you!!!
I have successfully finished doing the LED headlight. It looks like a factory carved masterpiece. But for fitting it in the bike, I have some doubts. I wanted to run the the LEDs in the following way : When it is dipper, only the 5mm LEDs should light up. And when it is upper both the 5mm LEDs and the High power LEDs should Light up. Is this schematic OK? If not can you suggest me another one : )
YES.......................
Enjoy.
thanx
FLICKER is noticeable when the +LED and - LED are further apart.
Yes add 12v DC before the diodes and the capacitor (Bridge Rectifier).
Let me know the result.
I saw your comment and i come to know that u r working. May i know how u worked. please send the work to my mail id hethu_81@yahoo.com
If the LED's are kept closer then the flicker is not noticeable.
How LEDs required to provide Same illumination like Tube Light of 40W?
Happy Holi.
With kind regards
Ramesh Shanbhag
where as i was made another circout with(with small led) .22mfd 250volt and 1k5 resistor .which is giving good light .
please suggest me
bigger led i paid 10rs and small each rs 2
but the point of using LED's is to save the energy.
in this design most of the energy will be wasted thru resistor as heat.
only Switch mode supplies,can give efficiencies of 80-90%
believe me i worked on a Huge efficient lighting system which uses 100no's of 3 watt leds.
i stay in mumbai. Pease help me out, is 100nos of 5mm led enough to light a 150sqft room. please email me at gaurav281284@yahoo.com
And can I use this array of LEDs as the headlights in a Motorcycle?
YES YOU CAN but it must be properly designed.
Send me your E-mail ID and I will send you the circuit diagram.
Dipankar......
You can get LED's on Lamigton Road, at Marine Drive.
I lived and worked in Mumbai for a few years.
nagaindian@sify.com
You you can use 2+2, 3+3, 4+4, 5+5 and so on. It will make no difference.
Please read below what frenetic says, I quote.......
"You should understand that in this circuit, each LED is protected by a 'twin' LED connected in the opposite polarity, so there won't be any excessive reverse-voltage. This LED also fills in and removes the flicker you talk about.
To use a resistor to do what the capacitor does here you'll need one that is rated at 3-watts or more.
The circuit here is quite elegant and is based on sound electrical practices."
and the diode voltige i used to get out 7Kohm is 3V IDmax=20ma
and it's HEMMIKARL not HEMMIKARI
The formulas that you should use are:
C = 1 / (22200 * V) = 0.2uF for 220vAC (non-polarised, rated for 350V)
R = 1.5K, 1/2W
n = max number of LEDs in each direction
= .14 * V = 31 LEDs before it starts to be noticeably dim.
If you make C too large, you will be letting too much current through the LEDs and that will cause it to heat up too much, which will drastically shorten the life of the LEDs.
The math:
Vpk = Vac * sqrt(2)
Vled = Vpk / 3
# LEDs (in each direction) = Vled / 3.3
Combining them we get:
(Vac * sqrt(2)) / (3 * 3.3), or about Vac * .14
Could you say me why there is a limit to connect many LEDs in serie.
Where did you get the equation n x 0.14 = V, so for 220 , n = 31. Why there is a limit?. If i connect 60 leds in serie, they don't work? why dim them?
Thanks very much
1 Capacitor = Rs 10/-
1 Resistor = Rs 1/-
Total Rs 41/- ( Less then 1 US Dollar)
LED's can glow with AC or DC current.
L = Light
E = Emitting
D = Diode.
but im not sure how they would behave in an AC circuit...?
Thanks for your comments.
I would like to make it very clear that playing with 220 volt AC is never SAFE.
A TV sometimes give you a deadly shock if you touch the Antenna wire.
No electrical equipment is guaranteed against shock even a tube light, if you put your fingers in the wrong places.
As for photos of the build process, is a waste of time. The most important thing of a project is the CIRCUIT DIAGRAM OR PLAN (in case of a Building) you can build from it in your own way with materials available to you in your country, because the things available in the USA may not always be available in INDIA or NEPAL. Take this into consideration.
A builder never copy's other people's work, there is no satisfaction in that.