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LEDs are great for making light, but they can sense light too!

I recently stumbled upon this site which mentions, "In 1977, Forrest M. Mims reminds us in one of his "Engineer's Notebooks" that LEDs can also be used as photodiodes... " The page features a LED matrix being used as a multi-touch input but offers very little information. I still have no idea how to make his project, but I did learn how to use LEDs as light sensors.

This instructable goes over my experimenting with different kinds of LEDs as light sensors and making a dark activated night light using LEDs as sensors.
 
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Step 1: What You Will Need

  • random assortment of LEDs
  • current limiting resistors for LEDs
  • multimeter
  • breadboard
  • bright flashlight
  • microcontroller (I used Arduino)

Step 2: How Does it Work?

According to Wikipedia:

LED as light sensor:

"A LED is simply a diode that has been doped specifically for efficient light emission and has been packaged in a transparent case. Therefore, if inserted into a circuit in the same way as a photodiode, which is essentially the same thing, the LED will perform the same function."

Photodiode:

"A photodiode is a type of photodetector capable of converting light into either current or voltage, depending upon the mode of operation."

Step 3: Sensing

All you have to do is hook up the multimeter to read the voltage coming off the LED, that's it! Try pointing the LED at different light sources and see how the reading changes.
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T-Urn4 years ago
Nice experiment! I came across this about 20 years ago - my then Boss pointed me at it as a sensor for a low level light meter - there wasn't enough output :-( Don't think I've never seen it used in a product. Out of the companys collection of LEDs I remember the high bright red LEDs ( clear case ) worked best. It also got a mention in the April copy of Elektor Mag this year I believe - there was a follow up letter asking if it was an "April Fool". There was no consensus as to which type of LED gave the best output. I've just tried it with a Hyper brite red LED in a water clear case - its about a year old, and I'm sorry I can't tell the Manu or Model. I stuck it under a halogen desk lamp, 20 Watt, not diffused, about 1 foot / 300mm above. Got about 600mV or about 0.7uA peak on a cheap DVM. Readings dithered a bit. Not sure why - may have been poor contact with crock clips etc.
sekar.v2 months ago

good to know....thanks

sarvesh75 months ago

can anyone pls tell me which one will create highest voltage in sunlight

ydanay7 months ago
I did this as a science project. I got an A+. I knew about it anyway, but I needed this for reference. Thanks!!
ReCreate5 years ago
How much Current do the LED's output under light?

I've tested some LED i had laying around. I tested with a low-consuption 9W bulb, moving from 10-15cm to almost touching the LED, and tapping it with my hand or something opaque.

Normal Red LED: 40mV-60mV full exposure. Tapped, 6mW or lower. Reacts really slow, similar to LDR

Normal Green LED: 500mV-1200mV full exposure. Tapped, oscillates until 40mV. Reacts fast on changes.

Normal Yellow LED: similar values but slighty lower to green. Equal reaction.

Crystal ultra luminosity Green LED: values similar to normal red LED

The best performance was achieved with the normal green led.

I hope this helps.

I forgot i also had some IR LEDs (clear and coloured). In both cases i got the same results: 20mV to 550mV full exposure, response is fast.

Notice that LEDs also detect light around them, so even when you tap them with your hand or similar, they will show high values. That is why even placing the light source far, they still show voltage values around dozen of milivolts instead close to 0 (darkness). Therefore you need to isolate them from indirect light to get accurate measures.

Btw, connect the LED as usual in Diode test mode in multimeter: cathode to GND (black probe) and anode to VCC (red probe).

Zorink (author)  ReCreate5 years ago
My multimeter read .000, so not a lot. I knew I forgot something, thanks. I'll put in step 4.
ReCreate Zorink5 years ago
Hmm...That is Unusual.
leds use silicon, also used in solar cells
AndyCSWu Zorink4 years ago
I connect 30 green LEDs in parallel. They generate 1.3V under a lamp. The current I get is 1.1 uA or 0.0011 mA. But the connection test of my multimeter doesn't beep when I test them.
Wow. Some mad efficiency we got here. :P
munymuny2003 years ago
r those black leds if so where can i get them
They are infrared LEDs... they are more commonly clear cases.
Most online LED suppliers will have infrared LEDs, not sure which ones will have coloured casings.
ydanay micobanff7 months ago

They are also commonly seen in purple cases, but I doubt this will be helpful 2-3 years after the fact. :)

Whats the name of the arduino used here? I mean the Model?
Someone pls help !

Duemilanove. But I believe that you can with any other Arduino Board, or any other board for that matter, not just Arduino.

lekirst11 months ago
is there a way to alter the code so the output led is the same as the sensor led?
I tried this (http://playground.arduino.cc/Learning/LEDSensor) code, but doesn't seem to be very stable.
bdjumakov1 year ago
How do you connect the leds for sensing? (for example GND ----|>|---DPin2 or DPin3 ----|>|---DPin2)
Thanks
FtForger2 years ago
Are you positive you were getting over 1 volt? Are you sure your meter wasn't on a different scale? I spent several hours tested about 25 (mix of red and white) LEDs. I was getting about 15 millivolts out of most of them, with a few as high as 25-28 millivolts, but none anywhere near a volt.
Electorials2 years ago
Oh 1.381V, that's a lot!
I knew they could be used as light sensors, but I didn't know they could produce a voltage that high.

Can you light another LED with the generated voltage from the first LED?
haha

and also, I thought your name was Zornik, a Belgian band, but it's Zorink :D
Do you know Zornik?
Zorink (author)  Electorials2 years ago
I have not been able to light up another LED, but I'm sure you could if you string enough together. The voltage is great for an analog input pin on an IC, but the current isn't enough to drive an LED.

I am unfamiliar with the band, I'll have to look them up!
wild_blaze3 years ago
btw i got 0.33 volts from a green LED........
wild_blaze3 years ago
just watchd d video......i think...u really don't need an arduino...or any microcontroller for that........btw nice concept............
lukeD3 years ago
I've got a question:
can I use a normal LED to make a security system?

my plan was to make it in my room. a laser light pointing at the LED and if the laser beam is interrupted (if the door is open, or if somebody walks by) that I can see that somebody was in my room.
would this whole plan be possible with a normal LED?
Zorink (author)  lukeD3 years ago
It would work okay, but I'd use a component that is actually made to be a photo-detector. I've seen it done with IR or lasers depending on the distance you need. For just a door an IR LED with an IR detector would work as long as there are no other large sources of IR near it (certain lights, the sun, etc shining on the sensor).

Here is one I found with a bit of google
http://hackaday.com/2011/04/19/laser-trip-wire-the-bare-essentials/
lukeD Zorink3 years ago
can you find a IR detector in household stuff?
Zorink (author)  lukeD3 years ago
They are pretty cheap. I think Radio Shack has them for a few bucks.
lukeD3 years ago
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kcd123213 years ago
Really interesting and cool. The straw had a great effect.
beehard443 years ago
i was wondering if i can make an earpiece out of this (passive receiver) but i doubt if the LEDs can supply enough power. i'll try it tho
Because , like diodes ,
diodes were able to be turned into electricity generating stuff .
Now , if you are worried about it not producing enough voltage , use a op-amp , this site , is so freaking clever .
http://www.wikihow.com/Make-a-Motion-Detector
i didn't say it's the best , there might be more ,
Zorink (author)  Electronics Blurred4 years ago
opamps are magic
Chowmix124 years ago
LED solar panel FTW!!
strmrnnr4 years ago
I may have to play with this idea some day. The current may show up if a load is introduced.

I wonder how many LEDs it would take collecting light to power 1 LED emitting light at full power.
Ender20074 years ago
Very nice!
Thanks.
billbillt4 years ago
This is great! Could you maybe provide a simple hook up diagram or schematic?
                                   Thanks!
This only uses 2 leds, 2 transistors, and a 9v.
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Thanks for this!
madepablo4 years ago
Great tutorial!

However, could you post the wiring diagram? I can´t see the resistors in the pictures, or the used voltage... jut to have an idea....
By the way, i suppose that the selected resistances values could  change the analog input, and the readed value, is it right?
Thanks!
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