Introduction: Laser Cut Record

A few months back, I wrote about how I used a 3D printer to transform any mp3 into a physical record.  Though all the documentation for that project is available here, and the 3D models could potentially be printed through an online fabrication service, I knew that the barrier to entry for normal people interested in trying out the process themselves was prohibitively high.  With this project I wanted to try to extend the idea of digitally fabricated records to use relatively common and affordable machines and materials so that (hopefully) more people can participate, experiment, and actually use all this documentation I've been writing.

These records were cut on an Epilog 120 Watt Legend EXT to a theoretical precision of 1200dpi (the kerf of the cut and some tricks I used to avoid crashing the laser cutter dropped the actual precision down by ~1/6).  The audio on the records has a bit depth between 4-5 (typical mp3 audio is 16 bit) and a sampling rate up to about 4.5kHz (mp3 is 44.1kHz).  So far I've successfully cut audio on wood (figs 1-2), acrylic (figs 3-4), and paper (figs 5-6), and I'm sure there are many more materials that would work.  I wrote the Processing sketch that generates the record cutting paths so that it can be modified for any song, material, cutting machine, record size, and turntable speed (skip ahead to download the code and learn how to make your own records).

You should also note that in this Instructable I'll demonstrate specifically how I used a laser cutter for this process, but the cutting files I'm using are standard vector graphics in a PDF format, so they can be extended to many other digital fabrication tools. For example, I'm curious to see if it's possible to use a CNC mill or a CNC razor blade paper cutter with my cutting files (a group of people were able to cut out some sine waves on paper using a Cameo in this Instructable).

Below are some of my final results, read on to see how they were made and how you can make your own.

Joy Division - Love Will Tear Us Apart on clear acrylic (download vector files):

Radiohead - Idioteque on wood (download vector files):

The Velvet Underground and Nico - Femme Fatale on maple (download vector files):

Step 1: How Does a Record Work?

I've explained a bit about how a record works and the scale of vinyl microgrooves in my 3d printed record project.  The main difference between these laser cut records and my 3d printed records is the axis that the grooves are cut on.  Since I can't control the power of the laser while it is cutting a vector path, the laser cut records are cut laterally on the surface of the material.  This means that the needle only vibrates in the plane parallel to platter of the turntable.  The 3d printed records are "cut" vertically, meaning the needle vibrates in the plane perpendicular to the platter.  I chose to modulate the grooves vertically for the 3d printed records because the vertical axis is the most precise axis on the machine (resolution of 16 microns).

Stereo (2 channel) vinyl records are cut both vertically and laterally, this way it's possible for two isolated channels of audio to fit into one groove.  Mono vinyls are cut laterally only, this is because the vertical cuts can become distorted, especially if you try to increase the amplitude of your waveform to increase the dynamic range of the sound.  Although I didn't really have a choice in the matter, it's better to to cut a mono groove laterally.

To give you an idea of the size of the grooves on a modern record, check out the image above from Chris Supranowitz, a researcher at The Institute of Optics at the University of Rochester.  This is a close up image of a vinyl record, taken with an electron microscope.  The dark objects in the grooves are tiny particles of dust.  The laser cutter cannot make such precise cuts because the width of the beam is too large, so the grooves on my records are about 1-2 orders of magnitude larger in every dimension than these grooves.

Step 2: Laser Cutter Specs

The lasers in our office are Epilog 120 Watt Legend 36EXT.  They have a 36"x24" cutting bed, big enough to cut several 12" records at a time.  They have a max resolution of 1200dpi in the x and y axes and 100 power and speed settings to control cutting depth.

Before I started cutting anything, I used these numbers to calculate the resolution I'd be able to achieve.  First I wanted to make sure that I would be able to get a good sampling rate on my audio.  Sampling rate is the amount of samples per second in a song.  Usually the sampling rate is 44.1kHz (or 44,100 samples a second).  When the sampling rate drops below about 40kHz the higher frequencies of a song start losing their detail, but depending on the song you can go down to 20 or even 10kHz sampling rate without too much of a problem.

To calculate the sampling rate, I used the following relationship:

sampling frequency = (resolution per inch)*(inches per revolution)*(revolutions per second)
(in order to maximize the sampling frequency, we want all of these numbers (res/inch, inch/rev, rev/sec) to be as high as possible)
also notice how the sampling rate will decrease as the needle moves towards the center of the record (smaller inches/revolution)

First I'll start with revolutions per second.  Record players typically play at two different speeds: 33.3 and 45rpm.  (Some record players also have a 78rpm speed, but this is less common and only used for very old records).  If I use the higher, 45rpm speed I can calculate revolutions per second as follows:

revolutions per second = (revolutions per minute)/(seconds per minute)
revolutions per second = 45/60 = 0.75

Next is inches per revolution, this number depends on the circumference of the disk where the needle is hitting it. The largest sized records are 12" in diameter (30cm).  According to the RIAA standards, the outermost groove of a 12" record falls at a radius of 5.75" and the innermost groove falls at about 2.25".  I'll use these numbers to determine the range of sampling rates I can achieve at 33 and 45rpm.  The circumference (the distance in inches traveled by the needle during one revolution of the record) is calculated as follows:

inches per revolution = 2*pi*(radius of needle)
max inches per revolution = 2*pi*5.75 =~ 36
min inches per revolution = 2*pi*2.35 =~ 15

We already know that the resolution per inch of the laser cutter is 1200 (1200 dpi  in the x and y axes).  So combining this all we get:

sampling frequency = (resolution per inch)*(inches per revolution)*(revolutions per second)
max sampling frequency at 45 rpm = 1200*36*0.75 =~ 32400 = 32.4kHz

min sampling frequency at 45 rpm = 1200*15*0.75 =~ 13500 = 13.5kHz

This is a pretty good starting point.  If I scale this to 33.3rpm instead of 45 (this will allow me to fit more music on the record) the sampling rate becomes:

max sampling frequency at 33 rpm = 1200*36*0.5 =~ 21600 = 21.6kHz
min sampling frequency at 33 rpm = 1200*15*0.5 =~ 9000 = 9kHz

This is still easily enough to reproduce a recognizable song.

The next thing that I needed to think about was the bit depth.  Bit depth is the resolution of the audio data.  Most audio these days in 16 bit, meaning each sample can have one of 65536 (2^16) possible values.  8 bit audio has only 256 (2^8) steps of resolution and still sounds pretty close to the original.  (Music that is commonly referred to as "8-bit" like the music in early Nintendo games is actually 1 bit resolution, this low resolution is what gives it its unique and instantly recognizable sound, but I'm aiming for something that sounds a little more organic).

As I said in the last step, the grooves on these records are cut laterally.  The following equation calculates the horizontal distance that the needle will move as it traces the a wave of a given bit depth:

horizontal displacement of needle = (2^bit depth)*(precision of x/y axes)
where the precision of the x and y axes is 1200dpi or about 21 microns.  I used this to calculate the following table:

bit depth          horizontal displacement                steps of resolution

     2                             84um                                          4
     3                            168um                                         8
     4                            336um                                        16

     5                            672um                                        32
     6                          1.344mm                                      64
     7                          2.688mm                                     128
     8                          5.376mm                                     256

The bolded rows in the table are the numbers that I wanted to shoot for with this project.  Although a horizontal displacement of about 0.5mm is quite large compared to a normal record, I think somewhere in that range will work.

Step 3: Sine Tests

As with my 3d printed records, I started off by printed out some sine wave tests to get an idea of what kind of frequency range I can achieve and to test out some parameters (laser power, cutting speed, material, wave amplitude).  I used Processing to generate sinusoidal paths and cut these first tests on white 3mm acrylic.

Here's the Processing code I used:
and here's a video of the results:

(the 139hz sine wave may be too low to hear with laptop speakers)
I was really happy with these first tests.  These is some noise in the background, but it's very consistent and the signal to noise ratio is pretty good.  Amplitudes of 4 and 6 sounds good across the frequencies tested here, as the frequency gets higher, you can hear a good amount of distortion on the amplitude 8 wave.

Different lasers and brands of laser cutter will respond differently, but this record was cut at 5000 freq with 100 speed (although the cutting head was moving very slowly due to the density of points on my vector path) and 12 power (enough to etch the surface but not to cut all the way through).

Step 4: Audio Tests on Acrylic

I did a ton of sine tests for my 3D printed record, but I was anxious to launch into the audio for this much sooner so I just went for it.  Even though on some level I knew this would be a bit of a disaster, here's my first attempt with audio:

The song is Love Will Tear Us Apart by Joy Division.  My favorite of all the records I 3d printed was definitely the Joy Division one (the song Disorder), I like the creepy vibe the distortion gives it.

This laser cut joy division track is not quite there yet (though decently recognizable).  You can hear a lot of crunchiness on the drum beats, if you could look closely at the record, you would see that these areas of high frequencies were melted into oblivion by the cutter.  In this attempt I didn't make any effort to set a max frequency of the cuts, and the tighter cuts required by these sections apparently caused the laser to linger too long on the material.

I learned some things about the laser cutter from this attempt.  The first couple of tries I made on this cut caused the laser to freeze up almost immediately.  At first I thought I was overloading the machine with data, but then I realized that the machine does not like to receive extremely dense vector paths.  In fact, I found that if two points on a vector path are within about 6 pixels of each other, the laser will quit.  I had to amend my code to account for this.  Here is the Processing code I used:
As with the 3d printed record, I pulled the raw audio data from the original wav file using Python before sending it to Processing, that code can be found here.  And again, if someone knows a way to bypass this step, please feel free to leave a comment, I would much rather keep everything in Processing.

In my next test I set a limit on the angular distance between consecutive points, hoping to minimize melting of the material.  Here's the code:

   if(((xValLast-xVal)*(xValLast-xVal)+(yValLast-yVal)*(yValLast-yVal))>(minDist*minDist) && radCalc*abs(thetaLast-theta)>minAngDist){
        //store last coordinates in vector path
        xValLast = xVal;
        yValLast = yVal;
        thetaLast = theta;

...and the video:

The cut came out much cleaner, and you can hear significantly less distortion on the audio, but I thought I could still make it better.  In the next test I set the samples per revolution to a constant number (6000) and removed the minimum angular distance logic from my code.

At 6000 samples per cycle the sampling frequency of the audio is:

samples/sec  = samples/rev * rev/min * min/sec
samples/sec  = 6000 * 45 * 1/60 = 4.5kHz

Here's the code:
and the video:

Though it's a little hard to hear because of all the skipping, the cut came out much cleaner on this test.  You can also hear that the audio sounds slowed down, this was a rounding issue in my code that I dealt with later.  In my next test I decreased the amplitude of the wave to 12px to see if I could get the needle to stay in the groove.

    float amplitude = 12;

There are still a few issues.  Most notably, the record is warped from the cutting process.  Also the speed of the audio is still screwed up.  In my final version I fixed the speed issue (it was a rounding problem) and tried taping the acrylic down to the bed to see if that would help with the warping.  The settings I used on the laser cutter are:

laser settings (epilog 120W)
100 speed
12 power

In this cut I actually applied the proper RIAA equalization as well and used an anti-aliasing low pass filter of samplingRate/2 = 2.25kHz.

Here is the final code:
and the final product:

There was still some warping, but the tempo issues are completely resolved.  It's interesting to hear how much the audio quality degrades from the outside of the disk to the middle of the disk - this is due to lowered surface speed of the record as you move toward the center (explained in step 2).

Step 5: Audio Tests on Paper

Next I tried this out with paper, first I used a sheet of thicker black (almost cardstock) paper.  I used the song rebel rebel as my test.

The settings on the laser were as follows:
speed 100
power 4
frequency 500

The resulting records looked great (see image above), and you can even hear the song coming through, but it had a lot of trouble with skipping:

So I picked up some new paper, this time it was much thicker, almost like thin cardboard.  I did some sine tests and found that setting the laser power to 7 was the deepest I could cut without going through the paper.  Then I did another test of rebel rebel, this time cut at 7 power and with the amplitude of the wave lowered to 10 (from 12).  The needle still will not stay in the groove by itself:

I also tried defocusing the laser from the paper to widen the cut (still at amp 12).  The inner cut is more defocused than the outer, notice how the needle is more stable, but the audio quality is lower.

Since the defocusing seemed to be the only way to keep the needle in the grooves, I tried defocusing the laser by reproducible distances to find the perfect balance between needle stability and low noise.  To do this I placed anywhere from 4 to 16 pieces of white printer paper on top of the cardstock while I ran the laser's autofocus.  This meant that the focal point of the laser would actually be a fraction of an inch above the surface of the cardstock.  That test is shown below, the outer rings are defocused by 4 sheets, the next 7, 10, 13, and 16 sheets.

I concluded that about 10-12 sheets defocused was the absolute minimum needed to keep the needle stabilized in the groove.

Step 6: Audio Tests on Wood

Finally, I cut some records on wood.  Eventually I'd like to cut a record on a 12" wood round with a raw edge, kind of like this, you could cut the grooves right onto the rings of the tree.  For now I have some nice maple sheet to cut, but I did my firsts tests on ply.  I started by using similar settings that I used on the acrylic:

power = 12
speed = 100
freq = 500
amp = 12

This cut looked great, but the needle skipped a lot, I had to hold it in place to shoot this video.  I went back and did some sine wave tests and found that 15 power was more stable, so I ran another audio test at 15 power:

This cut was much more stable, but skipping was still an issue, you can also hear the same tempo issues I was having with the acrylic (I was cutting all these records at the same time).  Next I tested lowering the amplitude of the cut to 10:

I also tried defocusing the laser to widen the groove, keeping the amplitude at 12.  The outer groove is slightly defocused, the inner grove is more heavily defocused:

Both defocusing and lowering the amplitude of the cut helped to minimize skipping, but the defocusing introduced more noise into the audio.  For my final plywood test I lowered the amplitude to 10 and kept the laser focused, I also fixed the tempo issue in my code.  Here is the result:

Unfortunately at this point I was using the last of our plywood stock, so I couldn't be too picky about how flat the ply was, but it still (surprisingly) plays fine(ish).  Here's the code I used:
Next I used the maple.  Fortunately, noahw helped me track down a 13" wide curly maple board and cut it into a two flat sheets: one was about the thickness of a real vinyl record at about 1/16" and other a little thicker at 1/8".  I sanded the maple sheets to about 1500grit and finished them before cutting.  I did a few tests on a piece of scrap and found that the power setting I was using on the ply was cutting so deeply into the maple that I would not be able to cut both sides.  I did a few more experiments with defocusing and actually did a full attempt using the song sunday morning by the velvet underground:

In this test I defocused the laser by the width of 11 sheets of normal printer paper.  I used the following laser settings:

power = 4
speed = 100
freq = 500
amp = 10

This cut came out a little noiser than I was hoping.  Since the needle wasn't having any issues staying in the groove, I defocused by only 9 sheets of paper and kept the same power settings.  On the other side of the sunday morning disc, I cut femme fatale:

While I was adjusting some tape to try to keep the wood lying flat in the middle of the cut, I accidentally bumped it to the side slightly.  If you look closely at the video, you'll see where the error is, it caused the needle to skip a groove, but other than that the cut came out great.

This song helped me pin down an error in my code, if you listen closely during the chorus, you'll notice that the backing vocals are missing.  When I looked back at the song, I noticed that the vocals are only found in the left channel of the track, so it seems that I was not combining the two channels before converting to a vector file.  I think I've fixed the problem in my python script, but I'll have to run a test to know for sure.  In the meantime, you can work around this problem by importing your stereo audio into Audacity, right clicking on the track and selecting "split stereo to mono", saving the file as a wav, opening that saved file in Audacity again, copying the track, and right clicking on each of the duplicate tracks to set one to left channel and one to right channel.

Step 7: Make Your Own

You can convert your own audio files into vector cutting paths in ten easy steps:

1.  Download Processing.

2.  Download Python 2.5.4.

3.  Download Audacity.

4.  Download the code from GitHub (you can download the zip file by clicking on the cloud button).  Unzip and open the folder called LaserCutRecord.

5.  Open an audio file of your choice with Audacity.  Go to Effect>Equalization and select RIAA.  Hit inverse and apply, you should now hear the higher frequencies of your track boosted.

6.  Go to Effect>Low Pass Filter... and apply an anti-aliasing filter (a fancy word for a low pass filter) to your audio.  You will have to choose the cutoff frequency according to the max sampling rate that you can get with your cutter.  For example, my laser cutter melts anything above 2.5kHz at 45rpm, so I set my anti-aliasing filter cutoff to this same frequency.  Set the drop off as high as possible, for me this was 48dB/octave, that way the filter will have a hard cutoff.

7.  Use Effect>Amplify to amplify the signal as much as you can without noticeable effects of clipping (you will be able to get away with some clipping, and remember this is not crystal clear audio anyway). You may also want to mess around with Effect>>Compressor.

8.  Make sure there are 2 sec of blank audio at the end of the track so that nothing gets clipped and keep the audio under 3:10.  File>Export this file and save it in the "LaserCutRecord" folder as a wav file. 

9.  Open the Python file called "wavtotxt".  Copy the file name of the file you just saved in the line:

             fileName = "your_file_name_here.wav"

Hit Run>RunModule, after a minute or two you will have a .txt file saved in the Record Generator folder.

10.  Open the Processing sketch.  Change the name of the import file in the Processing sketch to your txt file name:

             String filename = "your_file_name_here.txt";

Run the Processing sketch Sketch>Run.  The Processing sketch will output several files, none larger than 700KB (I found that larger files were crashing the laser cutter).  The last file will also contain the cut paths for the inner hole and outer edge of the record, you will need to set your laser cutter to cut these lines at a higher power, so that it cuts all the way through the material.  Another very important note about cutting these files - the reason I had to split each song up into five parts is because I found that files larger than 800KB would crash my laser.  When you are cutting out the sequential files, you MUST shut down the laser for a second to clear it's memory and then turn it back on before sending it a new 700KB file to cut, you will have problems if you forget this.

Once you've made cutting files, post them!  You can upload files in the comments by clicking on "Rich Editor."  Enjoy, and let me know if you have questions or need help getting this to work.  I've tested this process Mac OS using the latest version of Processing.  If you actually end up cutting your own record, please post the results in the comments, I'm really curious to see where this code ends up!

In case you are stuck trying to find a machine to cut your files, check this list of worldwide hackerspaces, these are places where anyone can go for little to no money and use tools in a collaborative work environment.  If you are in school, you might ask the engineering or art departments if they have a machine than can cut vector files.  Otherwise, I'd recommend checking out an online fabrication service such as Ponoko.  Some people even build their own laser cutters, there are many builds documented right here on Instructables, we're even giving one away in our Epilog Challenge.


christianzoellner made it! (author)2015-09-07

hi amanda, hi community

attached you see two screenshots from the same .pdf. the more complete looking one is preview/acrobat the smaller one comes from illustrator. anybody? solutions or explainations?



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amandaghassaei made it! (author)amandaghassaei2015-09-11


Just wanted to pin this comment to the top since lots of people are running into it. the problem is that illustrator doesn't like to import so much data at once, so it cuts it off. You need to break your data into smaller chunks to import.

If you look at the processing code:

there's a variable called


lower this number so that you export more files with fewer grooves on each (maybe 7 is a good place to start, but you may need to go lower). Once you make the chunks of data small enough, you will be able to import the files into illustrator without loosing anything.

Hope that helps!

christianzoellner made it! (author)christianzoellner2015-09-11

hi amanda,

thanks a lot. i reuced the numgroovesperfile down to 5. it worked now. couldn´t believe it. thanks for pointing out the importance of it.

will post the results here soon.

sxcbeastfareast made it! (author)2017-07-21

Hi Amanda

Ive adapted the code to print a 2 inch recording and turned it into a business card for a dj mate. In the process of finding a laser cutter keen to see if it works.

shgarshane made it! (author)2017-05-10

Hi Amanda,

I was wondering if you could help me with the following issue?

No matter where I place the file; inside the lib folder, inside its own folder with all of the correct py folders, on the desktop. I cannot seem to figure this out... Any and all help would be appreciated!

Thank you,


"Traceback (most recent call last):

File "C:\Users\sevans\Google Drive\MNHS Design Classes\Honors Innovation Design\3D Printed Record\", line 24, in <module>

w =, 'r')

File "C:\Python25\lib\", line 493, in open

return Wave_read(f)

File "C:\Python25\lib\", line 159, in __init__

f =, 'rb')

IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'white.wav'

squirec made it! (author)2017-04-24

hi amanda,

I'm having a bit of trouble in the final stage of processing. There is an error where it says "the value of the local variable 'section' is not used" (picture is attached). What would be a possible solution to this problem? Or, is the line even necessary? I tried taking it out of the code and was able to get one pdf, but not all. Any solutions?

thanks for the great article :)

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kipje made it! (author)2017-04-07

Hi Amanda, I was wondering if it's possible to use another version of Python, cause somehow Python 2.5.4 doesn't install on my computer, it says the file is empty. Could I use a newer version of the program?

CaitlinR25 made it! (author)2017-01-18

Hi Amanda,

I'm having trouble getting python to find my file. Here is the test and a screen shot.

Thank You!



#this code unpacks and repacks data from:#16 bit stereo wav file at 44100hz sampling rate#to:##16 bit mono wav file at 44100hz sampling rateimport waveimport mathimport structbitDepth = 8#target bitDepthfrate = 44100#target frame ratefileName = "space.wav"#file to be imported (change this)#read file and get dataw =, 'r')numframes = w.getnframes()frame = w.readframes(numframes)#w.getnframes()frameInt = map(ord, list(frame))#turn into array#separate left and right channels and merge bytesframeOneChannel = [0]*numframes#initialize list of one channel of wavefor i in range(numframes): frameOneChannel[i] = frameInt[4*i+1]*2**8+frameInt[4*i]#separate channels and store one channel in new list if frameOneChannel[i] > 2**15: frameOneChannel[i] = (frameOneChannel[i]-2**16) elif frameOneChannel[i] == 2**15: frameOneChannel[i] = 0 else: frameOneChannel[i] = frameOneChannel[i]#convert to stringaudioStr = ''for i in range(numframes): audioStr += str(frameOneChannel[i]) audioStr += ","#separate elements with commafileName = fileName[:-3]#remove .wav extensiontext_file = open(fileName+"txt", "w")text_file.write("%s"%audioStr)text_file.close()
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amandaghassaei made it! (author)amandaghassaei2017-04-01

hey sorry for the late reply - it seems like you have your wav in the wrong place. It should be in the same folder as the python script. Hopefully you figured that out on your own by now!

undanganpernikahan made it! (author)2017-01-05

Amanda, this is amazing. I will try it.

AumakuaT made it! (author)2016-12-09

Hi All,

So I'm trying to create a record for a project and I'm having trouble during the final step, processing. The image attached shows an uncompleted pdf that processing has made, the song i chose is around 3 minutes long. So I decided to try 30 seconds of music, put in processing, but unfortunately it's showing the exact same pdf. Is it how I'm preparing the .wav file on audacity that's causing the problem? Or I'm wondering if the problem is because I'm using the updated version of python and if that's the case, can anyone help me get python 2.5.4 because I'm also having trouble trying to download it. Or if anyone has python 2.5.4, can you help me create the .txt file so I can put that into processing.

thanks in advance!

2DCube made it! (author)2016-05-16

Hi All,

I've installed everything and followed the instructions but for some reason I can't get the python code to 'see' the wav file. I've tried several different file names and moving thing in and out of the root folder etc but it won't run. I'm using Win 10 so i've tried the latest version which doesn't even open and then tried the older version which runs but won't see the file when i've changed the file name in the code.

Thanks in advance for any help!

amandaghassaei made it! (author)amandaghassaei2016-05-22

hmm that is really strange. What is the error message? usually I just run the code with the wav in the same folder.

phonautograph made it! (author)2016-04-12

Hej Amanda,

Thank you for your great work and the detailed instructions - I studied it a while ago with great interest. When I stumbled over the "new" HD Vinyl thing, this instructable came back into my mind (see picture). Do you think they are able to patent their "3D-based topographical mapping" ( which corresponds in general to your work three years ago? Unfortunately, the patent document is currently not available but I wonder if they applied the same methodology as you did.

What do you think?

henrycfinn made it! (author)2016-02-26

Hi Amanda, very cool work. I had a question about making longer records. What prevents you from making albums longer than 3 minutes? Is it the material or the size of the laser cutter/What are the limitations that prevent you from being able to cut an entire album?

Also is it possible to adjust the RPM if you want to do something other than 45rpm?

Thank you!

timsullivanart made it! (author)2016-01-30

Hey Community,

I've done old school Edison style record carving, but would love to do this for an upcoming project. Would love to pay someone to help me out. In the bay area.



ThomasR46 made it! (author)2016-01-24

Hi Amanda,

can you think is it possible to cut a full album on a face ?

amandaghassaei made it! (author)amandaghassaei2016-01-25

no, the spacing of the grooves is too large to cut more than a few min.

MylesB1 made it! (author)2016-01-11

How do I open the processing sketch??

MichaelD215 made it! (author)2015-12-18

hi amanda, hi community

I'm having issues w/ getting the laser cutter to recognize all the .pdfs - It only cuts the final .pdf (the one w/ the cut lines), which prints the groves great. The laser cutter recognizes the files, but when I hit 'go' on the cutter, it immediately says 'Done'. As read in previous posts, I've tried the following to no avail:

- I've restarted the laser cutter and resent.
- I've changed the 'minDist' to prevent cutter stall
- I've included the cut lines (inner circle/outer circle) in with other grove .pdfs

Can't seem to figure out why it cuts the groves in the last file, but not any other ones. Any thoughts?

Below is a pic of the final file where it included the groves - no other grove files will cut.

amandaghassaei made it! (author)amandaghassaei2015-12-20

really weird. Maybe it has something to do with your print settings on certain colors? or maybe the line thickness? what kind of laser are you using?

MichaelD215 made it! (author)MichaelD2152015-12-22

line thickness is .001 (hairline). i've tried changing the color settings (both in the print output and changing the color of the vector paths), and experimented w/ all the available color variables one by one. I resorted to running a new set of .pdfs and keep getting the same thing - it prints only the final .pdf. (I am printing them individually. I've included the final .pdf (#13 - with the cut lines) along with a couple of other .pdfs (the ones that won't print). I'm using a Epilog Laser Mini 30w. it is weird that one file will print, but not the others.

MichaelD215 made it! (author)MichaelD2152015-12-22

ok - i think i have this figured out. !!! i set the 'numGroovesPerFile' down to 5 - It puts out 27 files instead of 13. It printed the last file (of course), but it also printed every file under 100k. It looks like ~100k is my cutoff point (my inner rings are 89k, my outer rings are 129k - 169k). My outer rings won't print, but inner rings print fine. The reason that my final file was the only one to print on previous tests, is that it was the only file under 100k. I'm going to keep experimenting. Thanks, Amanda!!!

FrankD37 made it! (author)2015-12-22

Hi all,

I have a 30 sec. ~2 mb wav from Audacity.
I get this error in phyton:

Traceback (most recent call last):

File "", line 26, in <module>

frameOneChannel[i] = frameInt[4*i+1]*2**8+frameInt[4*i]#separate channels an

d store one channel in new list

IndexError: list index out of range

What can be wrong?

FrankD37 made it! (author)FrankD372015-12-22

Problem solved. I used a mono wav file. Converted stereo and it worked.

JordanG25 made it! (author)2015-12-09

Hi Amanda! I don't know anything about code and I'm getting this error in the last step in processing (sketch>run).... any ideas??


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MichaelD215 made it! (author)MichaelD2152015-12-16

Jordan, did you solve your problem? Because I'm getting the same error message.

JordanG25 made it! (author)JordanG252015-12-16

No I haven't.... The best I can figure it out is that there's never a definition for the value "section". I'm not really sure how to fix it... I'm fairly sure I had followed the directions well up until this point.

amandaghassaei made it! (author)amandaghassaei2015-12-17

ok, I took a look at it, I think you guys are using a newer version of processing. It's not happy that variables are used in the following line:


an easy fix is to just set the width and height as static numbers. So for example if are using:

int cutterWidth = 100;//width of laser cutter bed in inches

int cutterHeight = 50;//height of laser cutter bed in inches

float scaleNum = 72.0;//scale factor of vectors (default 72 dpi)


cutterWidth*scaleNum = 100*72 = 7200


cutterHeight*scaleNum = 50*72 = 3600

so you should replace the size() line with:


Also Michael, I don't think you are using the newest version of the code, find it here:

MichaelD215 made it! (author)MichaelD2152015-12-17

Thanks, Amanda!

I'm using the newest version of the code, and used your suggested fix of using static numbers and it worked!!

I do have a new problem, though. The sketch runs and produces a .pdf w/ the lines - but the .pdf closes immediately (opens for not quite a full second). I've restarted the computer to clear out any bad juju, but it still happens. Any thoughts on that one?

I'm using Processing 3.0.1 - newest one updated in October. Is there a legacy version that would work better?

MichaelD215 made it! (author)MichaelD2152015-12-17

Hi Amanda, Nevermind on the .pdf questions above. I found them all in the LaserCutRecord folder.

Now off to playing w/ lasers!!

Thanks so much!

amandaghassaei made it! (author)amandaghassaei2015-12-18


amandaghassaei made it! (author)amandaghassaei2015-12-10

not sure, is your txt file in the right folder? check the lines that use the size() function, the error is happening on one of those lines.

JordanG25 made it! (author)JordanG252015-12-16

Here's the txt file i created!

JordanG25 made it! (author)JordanG252015-12-16

I suppose it could be in the wrong folder- when I open the file called "LaserCutRecord.pde" it gives me this error asking me to create a folder. When I first unzip the file the structure looks like this, but this is where I've copied files once it creates the folder.

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MichaelD215 made it! (author)MichaelD2152015-12-16

Hi Amanda - I'm super excited about this code, but I'm running into the same error message as Jordan above. My .wav, .txt., .pde files are all in the same folder. The error is in line 66. Any thoughts? (my image is above in the reply to Jordan)

robdeschutter made it! (author)2015-11-17

This is an amazing project, cant wait to try it. I cant find any mention of it, but how long does it take to laser one record?

amandaghassaei made it! (author)amandaghassaei2015-12-17

1.5hrs, this could be sped up a lot, but the laser cutter gets stuck on the high density of the points in these paths unfortunately.

KlausS10 made it! (author)2015-12-06

Hi Amanda and community,
I study architecture and I'm doing a project at the University of Technology in Graz, Austria (the one without kangaroos :P ). I just printed it out as several .pdf files, can't wait to try it out on lasercutter tomorrow.
Thank you a lot for the codes and instructions

shwey made it! (author)2015-09-27

Hi Amanda, (in regards to the laser cut record project) I'm having some trouble because when I send the files to be cut on the laser cutter, the laser cutter messes up. Is there any reason why this is happening?

Thank you.

Kind regards

amandaghassaei made it! (author)amandaghassaei2015-09-29

You'll have to be a little more specific, what does "messes up" mean? Can you upload a photo?

shwey made it! (author)shwey2015-09-29

Sure, sorry I'll attach the photos. I did two test runs with the velvet underground song, the first one (black record) was fine up until the end when stopped following the vector paths. The second test was with the white-ish material, the laser cutter didn't even cut the circle right from the start. Pictures are attached :)

amandaghassaei made it! (author)amandaghassaei2015-11-10

did you end up getting it to work?

shwey made it! (author)shwey2015-11-10

Yes I got it working! Thank you so much, I look forward to more instructables from you!

shwey made it! (author)shwey2015-09-29

Sure, sorry heres two test ones I ran. The first one came out the way it should until it got to the end and thats the black record. The white-ish record just messed up from the start, it wouldn't cut the circle properly.

amandaghassaei made it! (author)amandaghassaei2015-10-02

wow I've never seen this before. what model is the lase cutter? Maybe try increasing the number


to 8 or 9 and see if that does anything. It's at the top of this file:

that will space out individual points on the vector path a little more. I found that if they were too close together my laser would just stop. The behavior you're seeing is very strange, but maybe related.

NickL30 made it! (author)2015-11-09

I got it to work!!! (digitally anyways)

This is amazing. Now my laser cutter just has to be delivered...

Here are the first 3 min of "The General" by Dispatch

The General first try0.pdfThe General first try1.pdfThe General first try2.pdfThe General first try3.pdfThe General first try4.pdfThe General first try5.pdfThe General first try6.pdfThe General first try7.pdf
amandaghassaei made it! (author)amandaghassaei2015-11-10

cool, hope it works!

helontaylor made it! (author)2013-12-09

I'm having a bit of an issue running the processing sketch.

Processing crashes when I load the split strings into this array. My .txt file is 43mb. Which seems gigantic for a plain text. But at 44100 x 180~ sec. I guess that makes some sense.

it's this line that causes the sketch to run out of memory. I've changed my processing prefs to allocate 512MB but it still crashes. I suppose I'm confused, or not doing something right, as no one else has posted this issue...

float audioData[] = float(split(rawDataString,',')); //separated by commas

any thoughts?

LucyM13 made it! (author)LucyM132015-09-25

Having the same issue with roughly the same size txt file, the original song was 3.10 minutes long. Can anyone give me any tips on what i'm doing wrong?

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