Step 5: Install Lighting

Take the drum head off. Cut the LED strip to the needed length. Run the wires through the air vent. Attach to the inside of the drum using the self adhesive backing on the LED Strip. Replace drum head and tune. 
<p>If you wanted to make this for 5 drums could you use one controller or would you have to make a separate controller with a separate power supply for each drum? How could you modify this controller to use only one power supply and have 5 inputs and outputs?</p>
<p>I would be really easy to modify this design to control 5 drums in one controller. The only thing I would look for is a high enough amperage on your power supply. I'm currently away from my kit right now (I'll be there on Tuesday) but if I remember correctly, for this one circuit you need 250 mA. So if you were to combine all 5 circuits for 5 drums into one controller, you'd want to have a power supply around 12VDC and 1.25 Amps. Since that isn't a very common value, I would try it at 1 amp or if you can find 1.5 amps or 2 amps either of those &quot;should&quot; work fine. It definitely won't hurt anything.</p><p>As well, one thing you can try since you are making a larger controller, instead of using a bunch of micro switches, try a few potentiomiters to control the color of each drum very procisely. I'm thinking that you might like the result. At the very least, play with the idea on your bread board. </p>
I know this is old, but hopefully you're still here! I'd love to do this to my drums, I'm debating doing this or springing for the Drumlite kit... But I feel like the kit is pretty steep for what it is. Do you remember what it cost you to complete this build? Their 5 drum kit is about $300! I think I can buy a lot of LEDs, a wireless remote, a power source, etc. for more like $100, but that's a pure guess based on nothing lol. So am I way off? Or could I build 5 of these, 2 strips per drum (1 top, 1 bottom), for a Benjamin baby?
<p>No worries, I'm still around! :) From what I remember the most expensive part of this build was the LEDs. To figure out how much LED strip you will need, take the diameter of your drum and multiply it by Pi (3.14). If you are wanting two strips per drum multiply that by two. </p><p>For a 14 inch snare the formula would be: 14 x 3.14 x 2 = 87.9 inches</p><p>Using this formula for my Yamaha Stage Custom, I would need 465 inches, 39 feet, or about 12 meters of LED strip. So if the LED strip that you can source is cost effective enough, it would be much better to buy your own. </p><p>Let me know if you have any other questions that I can answer. </p>
<p>Thanks for the info. I've got almost zero experience with this kind of thing, but I can follow directions really well. I'm almost certainly going to be sticking with the single drum and continue searching for instructions for an all-in-one solution online. I've found several where each drum is an individual unit, but keeping all those batteries charged or finding 5 power outlets is way too much hassle. I do like this design the best, though. Thanks for sharing!</p>
I'll be at my computer later today so I can re write the schematic for 5 drums if you'd like. It's really not that much different. You'll just need a larger enclosure for it.
<p>Hello, by any chance did you redo this for 5 drums? Id be glad to pay you for your time this means a lot to me </p>
<p>I sadly didn't. My funds ran short. </p>
<p>Man, that would be amazing! Thanks so much!</p>
<p>Alright, so I added the image to step 3 as well. But you'll basically create the same circuit 5 times and tie all the +12VDC rails together and all of the grounds together. I looked at the specs of my personal led strip and for my kit I would need a total of 225 inches of LED strip. My calculations show that it would need between 5 and 6 amps on the power source to get the full brightness from the LED's. That would allow you to run the whole system from one power supply. I would suggest using some sort of connector for each drum trigger (maybe 1/4 mono cable, they are really easy to find around musicians) and some sort of 4 contact connector for the LEDs as well. You might need to do a little bit of research for that one. </p><p>Let me know if you have any other questions. I'm always happy to help!</p>
<p>Thanks so much! </p>
<p>Im quite curious about controlling the colors by potentiometer instead of DIP switch. Do you think a dual gang pot might work as a replacement for the DIP switch? Any ideas would be great. Thanks!</p>
<p>I don't think that you'd want to use a dual gang pot just because the purpose of using pots or DIP switches is to mix the RGB channels together. If you used a dual gang pot or even a triple gang pot (if you could ever find one) it would just brighten and dim all three channels the same. I would assume that the resultant color would be various levels of white. </p><p>Hope that answers your question.</p>
<p>Thanks for the response, and that makes sense. Im still rather new to dabbling in electronics...and I'm not very familiar with dual gain pots, so i figured i would ask.</p><p>Sorry but I have another question... if I wanted to use 3 different pots to control each color, am I somewhat close? (I attempted an illustration) </p><p>Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!</p>
<p>Don't ever be sorry for having a question! It gives me an excuse to stop doing my Calculus homework. </p><p>That looks correct to me. Since I had my trusty TI-89 handy, if you used 3 1K&Omega; that would be equivalent to placing a 333&Omega; resistor from positive to negative directly across your power supply. If you are running 12 volts like most all LED strips do, that should only draw around 36mA if all your pots are turned in the &quot;off&quot; position. And assuming that is correct a 1/2 Watt pot <em>should</em> work. However, since electronics are hardly ever where they theoretically should be, I'd suggest getting a 1K&Omega; pot rated for 3/4 Watt. Depending on the cost/availability of that, you could probably move up to a 2,3,4, or even 5K pot and you should be fine with a 1/2 Watt pot. The only down side to using a larger pot is that there will be less of your pot that you can use. Meaning that if you have a large pot, your LEDs may turn off after only turning your pot 1/3 of the way around. </p><p>I hope this helps! Let me know what other questions you have. </p>
Hi, thanks for the fantastic instructable, I've been looking for something like this for ages. Do the LED's gradually after the drum is hit or are they triggered straight on and off like a standard monostable? I'm guessing you could add a capacitor to make a more gradual dim if so? Thanks :)
Remember that there are the two potentiometers in there, one changes the sensitivity and the other changes the duration. If you wanted it to be even longer than what this circuit is limited to then you would just need to mess with the resistance value of your pot and the capacitance value going from pin 7 to ground. Hope this helps.
<p>Very cool man!</p>
<p>Thank you very much, I'm using it on my electronic pad.</p><p>Now I want to use led driver and audio amplifier at the same time.</p><p>How can I protect audio amplifier from currents generated by led driver and avoid any kind of sound noise?</p><p>I'm thinking about two diodes like as shown in the image.</p>
<p>Hello from Romania! Congrats for your work! It's an interesting project since it combines my two passions: drums and electronics. </p><p>I've tried to do this project using the schematics you put up, but something isn't working. Instead of a RGB led strip, I've used on the breadboard simply a normal LED, and the whole circuit is simply not working. And I don't have any idea why. </p><p>Do you have any idea how the schematics should look when you use a single LED? </p><p>I've attached some photos of the breadboard. Can you please have a look and maybe give some ideas why isn't working? </p><p>Thanks in advance!</p>
<p>I am building a project just like this for the drummer in my band, I was wondering, is it possible to use a pressure sensitive resistor in place of the sensitivity pot? I figure I'd probably need to connect another resistor to ground in order to make it work though. Thoughts?</p>
<p>You probably could make it work. However I'm not sure if the changing of the resistance from the trigger to the ground would cause other issues. Try it and see what happens. </p>
Yeah, I was wondering about that, I know if I didn't want to use a pot I could use two resistors one going each way, but using a pressure resistor is different entirely.
<p>I already made it, but I want to know if there is a way to add an Arduino using PWM for color changing. Thank you for the Instructable :D</p><p>(Arcuino circuit)</p>
<p>There definitely is! I've never done it, but I do have plans of making my own electronic drumset in the future where I will.</p><p>These two instructables might be a bit of help to you: <a href="https://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-use-an-RGB-LED-Arduino-Tutorial/">https://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-use-an-RGB-...</a></p><p><a href="https://www.instructables.com/id/Driving-RGB-LED-strips-off-an-Arduino/" style="background-color: initial;">https://www.instructables.com/id/Driving-RGB-LED-st...</a></p>
would it be possible to use a 12v battery or even a 9v battery to power it? if so would you just strip the power supply and connect the ends of the PSU wire to the battery connections?
<p>Yeah, just swap out the 12vdc in the schematic with your 12v battery and it'll work just the same. Pay attention to the Amp Hours rating on the battery. The lower the number the less time the battery will last. </p>
also, would I be able to use these LEDs: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00HSF66KS/ref=cm_sw_r_other_awd_evPmwbAPGQ69A
<p>If you are just wanting red then these will work great! </p>
awesome, can't wait to try this out with my drumline!
<p>I'm attempting this following your schematics but i'm having some troubles getting it to work properly... the LED strip is always ON!!! </p><p>I have taken it apart and done it again but got the same result.. Not sure what I'm doing wrong.. any idea anyone?</p><p>As soon as I connect the power the LED strip lights up immediately, turning the pots makes no difference and hitting the piezo neither.</p><p>I am using a white LED strip but i have tried also using the RGB one, the result is the same. I think all components are the correct ones. For the sake of testing I have also turned around the transistor (to make sure that i connected it properly) without luck, LED is either it's always ON or always OFF.</p><p>I have a doubt on how to connect the pots, I'm not sure i'm making it right. See my last image for better understanding on what i mean.</p><p>I hope the images are clear enough, otherwise I'm happy to take new ones of the details you need.</p><p>A huge thanks to anyone who tries to help!:)</p>
So since I've figured out the complete circuit, I've tried to find different switch options and working on what works well for a live show. The first pic is the original that you so patiently helped me with. And the last is where I'm at so far. I've been looking into different enclosures solely to have exterior switches and pots. But I'm happy with where I'm at for now and I'm in the process of duplicating it to complete the kit. Just wanted to share and say thanks again!
<p>Hahaha this is so awesome! I love it! I've honestly been thinking of revisiting this project in a few months. I'm thinking of building my own electronic plexi kit while using a micro controller to drive various lighting effects. It honestly wont be for a while, but it's good to have dreams! </p>
This is so cool. I had share on Facebook. I, of course, gave you full credit for this instructable. I hope you don't mind.
<p>I don't mind in the slightest! In fact, I think it's awesome! Thanks for sharing! </p>
Could you just make this for me? Haha
Sadly most of the things I make I would charge way too much for. But if I ever change my mind, I'll let you now.
Im so close! I believe I have the circuit wired correctly now. It works but the lights are so dim. I finally realized my LEDs a 300 LEDs per meter and not 150 like the project calls for. I'm guessing I need a larger amp supply but not sure Here's the specs for my LEDs and my circuit.<br>
I mean 300 for 5 meters or 60/1 meter. I'm lining up 14 inch snare twice if that helps.
<p>Sorry it's taken so long for me to get back with you. I really like how much you cleaned up your wiring. If using two layers of strip is bright enough for you then go for it! If it's still isn't bright enough, you'll need to get different strip. As long as you are still using 12vdc power supply, your driver is correct. </p>
I'm using a 12vdc 1amp <br>size M. I'm also reading about 8.4 V between ground and the output of TIP31. And 1.4v between +12v and my lights.
<p>Hmmmm... I'm wondering if something is going on there or if I don't understand what you are saying. </p><p>From your emitter (the arrow on the TIP31) and ground should just be a wire so there shouldn't be any voltage drop at any point in time. The voltage drop should be somewhere around 1.2 volts across the emitter and collector when the circuit is active. And the remaining voltage should be left across the LEDs. </p><p>Let me know if that does or doesn't make sense. </p>
Yes it does. I believe i misspoke when I said output. So I'm reading 8-9vdc between my emitter and collector before being triggered and avg 4.5vdc when triggered.
<p>Hmmm... Honestly the whole 12vdc should be across the collector and emitter when it's not triggered because it's acting like a switch. If it's working and you're just not sure if the led strip is as bright as it should be, disconnect it and connect it directly to the 12v power supply. Remember it will still be a little less bright anyway just because there will always be a voltage drop on the TIP 31. Anything past that you will need to get a brighter LED strip. </p>
Hmm I honestly thought the ones I have are brighter than the ones you used in the project. But I do have the exact LEDs you used coming in today so I will give that a shot and let you know. Thank you again for all the help and your patience.
<p>Well that's super awesome then! I thought you were still having issues with them being dim so that's why I made that comment. I'd like to see your whole kit when it's done. </p><p>Let me know if I can help with anything else!</p>
<p>Ok so I still had the same issue with the exact lights recommended. When I say dim I mean you have to look super close to see it. So it's getting the signal or voltage, just not enough. I'm reading 0v between the base and collector, 9.2v (not triggered) between collector and emitter. At my LEDs I'm reading 1.7v always. I connect direct 12v to LEDsand they light. I've replaced the lead from my TIP31 to led. Now when I strike the trigger, my avg reading between collector and emitter is 4.5v. I know that doesn't sound right especially when I'm reading 1.7 all the time at my LED lol </p>
<p>Yeah, that's super weird! Hmmmmm... Let me think about it for a few days (since it's almost 1 in the morning and I am in no way capable of thinking anything through in a coherent manner tonight). I'll get mine out to do some poking and prodding over the next few days.</p><p>Some things to do in the meantime, try swapping out your TIP31. Also try disconnecting the resistor from pin 3 of your 555 and connect it straight to your +12vdc to see if it will turn on the LEDs at that point. Also verify the resistor values of of R3 and R4. Make sure that those are correct. </p><p>Those are the only things that I can think of to try tonight. When I think of more, I'll let you know. </p>
I got it!!!!! I had my TIP31 mixed up. I flipped it around and swapped my collector and emitter. Thanks again for all your help and patience. I will gladly post a pic once my kit is finished.
<p>Excelent! Yeah, for things like that, it's usually things like that. I'm excited to see how it turns out! Are you going to set up your whole kit?</p>

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