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Liquid Cooled Car Seats For Babies (or you)

Step 5Installation and suggestions for use

Installation and suggestions for use
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Cooler Placement: Earlier I mentioned about how my weak pump wasn't able to pump up more than 12" high. For this reason, I abandoned my first idea of keeping the cooler on the floor in front of the back seat. I decided to keep it in the trunk, and since my car has a pass through between the trunk and back seat, I keep that cracked open just enough to pass the lines through.

Cooling Pad Installation: Most, if not all, baby car seats have removable covers that are held on with an elastic edge that wraps around the whole seat. The supply lines go into the car seats under the upholstery in the front of the seat, near where the babies' feet are, and run along the fold of the seat and the side bolster. The cooling pads are right behind the baby's back.

Power: I ran the power wire up the middle of the car, along the floor and up to the cigarette lighter plug. I keep it plugged in, so that when my car is on, the pump is running.

Keeping it Cold: My method with rotating the freezer packs goes like this: I'll put 4 freezer packs into the cooler just before I go out on a drive. When I'm done for the day, I take the freezer packs out and put them back in the deep freeze. Then I take out a 5th packet from the freezer and put that one in the cooler to stay there the rest of the evening and overnight until I go driving again. Then I take out that one packet and replace it with 4 freshly frozen ones. This keeps the water in the cooler cool and doesn't let it get hot like the rest of the car's interior does. This way when I put in new packets, they don't partially melt to cool down the hot water.

The result: they work great! They keep the babies' backs cool without ever getting cold, or letting them get too warm. I think that if the pads were in direct contact with them, it would be too cold. Placing the pads behind the seat cover (which also has a thin layer of foam pad) works to remove heat from the seat, which was the problem to begin with.

Problems: One problem I’ve started seeing is that after a while, the water starts getting slightly murky and starts getting stuff in it. I’m not sure where this is coming from, but I’m wondering if I should hook up a filter to it somehow. I’ve heard someone else suggest using a little bit of bleach in the water – this may help if it’s due to something growing in there.


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Aug 11, 2011. 12:58 PMfred.anderson.smith says:
Great Instructable! Thanks for adding this.
Jul 27, 2011. 9:41 PMMackramer says:
Great idea! We might try this to cool down the dog house on a hot day. Thanks
Aug 31, 2010. 8:31 AMEv says:
Hi, I posted the original 'structable, the backcooler. I like the improvements and modifications you've made. 

A few thoughts... the in and out tubes can be insulated together because the temperature drop between them is small, much less than to the air. 

If you're worried about sloshing water, a piece of open cell foam packing material on top of the working fluid could dampen (no pun intended) waves. 

Iodine is a great idea, much better than the bleach I use. Iodophor is good too, but you may see staining. Bilge pumps are made for saltwater use, so salt may work too. 

The commercial units made by Breg and Donjoy regulate the temperature by restricting flow, using fancy devices that squeeze one tube. The plastics catalogs have squeeze devices, or you can use automotive hose clamps. Oh, you can find the "cold therapy" units pretty cheap on a major auction site. 

Be careful with tender humans! 
Aug 29, 2010. 12:28 PMNyxius says:
don't use bleach...to stinky/unpredictable. Use sodium lactate. it is a natural antibacterial agent. It is harmless and doesn't smell bad. Also, not dangerous if ingested. you can make it at home by mixing sodium bicarbonate (baking powder) and lactic acid together. You can buy lactic acid from places that sell beer brewing kits or cheese making kits. it is a natural acid present in sweat, saliva, yogurt, and many other places. If you don't want to do this, just add regular salt to the water. in high enough concentrations very little can grow, and it will keep the water from accidentally freezing by lowering the freezing point.
Aug 29, 2010. 8:22 AMkmpres says:
I like it! I like the fact that it doesn't actually modify anything, just adds a pad under the rear seat cover, and it doesn't get in the way of anything, nor hinder your child's movements. I wouldn't worry too much about voiding warranties. That'll happen no matter what you do, and if the readers of this site worried about warranties they'd never write instructables to begin with. Just be careful with what you do, and think "Safety is Number 1" (as you have done), and you'll be fine.

Also like the cooler/ice pack idea as a radiator wouldn't actually cool the water until you were well underway, and even then, not by much. They're also prone to leaks and greatly complicate the installation.
Aug 29, 2010. 6:07 AMCaptainSlug says:
All it takes to prevent the growth of bacteria or algae is a couple drops of iodine. Which you can purchase from any pet supply store.
Aug 26, 2010. 12:54 PMjamina says:
Water does this, just because it'll get stuff in it. I had a filtered water bowl with pump for my cats and it'd get gunky extremely fast. My suggestion - try going 50/50 with vinegar or rubbing alcohol.

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