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MAKE A HIGH VOLTAGE SUPPLY IN 5 MINUTES

MAKE A HIGH VOLTAGE SUPPLY IN 5 MINUTES
In this Instructable you will learn how to make a High Voltage High Frequency power supply in 5 minutes and for less than $20.

All you need is a compact fluorescent light (CFL) and a flyback transformer.

Flyback transformers are found in TVs and CRT monitors. They make the high voltage, high frequency current necessary to trace the electron beam across the screen. They are small and compact, and you can take them out from an old computer monitor or TV.

CFLs are very popular high efficiency fluorescent lights. They are similar to their ancestor the fluorescent light tubes but use electronic ballasts instead of the big and heavy ballasts in the old technology.

The electronic ballast works by generating high frequency currents that are fed to a tiny high frequency transformer that boost the voltage and run the fluorescent tube. It is the high frequency that makes the assembly compact.

The electronic ballast generates less than 1000 volts. But by replacing the fluorescent bulb of the CFL with a flyback transformer, spectacular voltages can be achieved.


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Step 1Some Info on CFLs

Some Info on CFLs
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CFLs can come in a variety of shapes and sizes. Generally the bigger the wattage the larger the voltage output. For this Instructable I got a 65 Watts light bulb.

Most CFLs have a similar circuit topology. All of them have 4 wires coming out of them. The wires are in pairs, and each pair connects to a filament inside the light bulb.

The CFLs I came across have the high voltage on the outer wires. You only need to connect the outer wires to the primary coil of the flyback transformer.

You will find a comprehensive description of CFL circuits on this page

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May 17, 2012. 3:15 PMclevelandstorms says:
Hi, i am ordering this transformer here
http://www.amazing1.com/transformers.htm
It is the 28K089 7000v model for a mini jacobs ladder. Will hooking the CFL up to the primary wires still work??????????????????????
Apr 16, 2012. 3:43 PMhusamwadi says:
First off I want to say that this is an AMAZING instructable:

Alright all praise aside, I want to make a portable version of this project running off of a 12v rechargeable battery (DC). the bulb is sylvania 23watt micro cfl

I researched a power inverter that converts 12v dc to 110v but that seems impractical.

do you think i could somehow wire the 12 volt directly to the board via dc to dc step up converter?

I am looking for a circuit board diagram but i cant find any. the board looks like the Bigluz 20W.

If you can help me find any way to make this project portable ASAP I would be forever in your debt. I'm running a time sensitive project (3 days left give or take) so a quick response would be great!

Thank you man! once again great project!
Mar 10, 2012. 7:47 PMraksab.k says:
Can i use 11 watt CFL???
Aug 9, 2010. 3:34 PMnenrikii says:
Im confused... mine doesnt have the four in a row mine has two on each side.... so i dont know which one to solder to U_U i dont get it.... some one please help me here
Feb 4, 2012. 8:43 PMHomepwner says:
I'm working through this myself and I can offer some advice. My CFL boards all have the pins on opposite sides. I tried using a multimeter to measure the out put between pairs. I got nothing. By accident I was connecting my jumper leads to the 4 output pins and noticed a small spark between two pins . although this may damage the circuit It might be one method of finding the output pins of the cfl board.... (look for the pair that sparks) Once I connected this to the original pair of primary leads of my flyback transformer I still got very little arcs out of it (with a 23 watt CFL driver)
I had built a layden jar with foil tape the same night which didn't work as I thought so I attached the flyback to it and the results improved by double. It still won't be enough to power a jacobs ladder but I think I'm on the right track. I hope this helps. BTW look at the circuit board that the flyback was attached to for hints as to what pin is what. I at the very least found a pin labled B+ and a few labeled "G" which helped me choose the primary ground pins....
Feb 24, 2012. 10:08 PMMaxwell Yun says:
Do you know a value range and type for the capacitor that will trick the CFL board into believing that the tube is connected? I have a lot of ceramic capacitors still on an old CFL board, and I have a 10 uF and a 20 uF polarized capacitor.
Feb 20, 2012. 3:11 AMOVERLOADED says:
are you gonna reply back to me about the electronic ballasts that i have shown you in my pics? have you done any research or tried them out directly on any of you FBT's?

I am done playing around with single transistor drivers as they cannot handle more than 36 volts DC battery , i am sticking with CFL or EB's and also i use homemade capacitor to make brighter sparks.
Feb 20, 2012. 10:16 AMOVERLOADED says:
YES I THINK THEY MIGHT BE MORE ADVANCED AND THIS MAY CAUSE A PROBLEM FOR THE OPERATION, AS I HAVE SAID TO YOU BEFORE IT SEEMS THAT THEY WORK WELL WITH FBT'S THAT HAVE 11 PINS RATHER THAN JUST 10,DONT ASK ME WHY? I DONT KNOW WHAT THE COMON FACTOR IS BUT I GOT THIS INFO FROM ANOTHER SOURCE NAMED JIMMY PROTON, I RECALL MAKING VERY LONG ARCS WITH MY FIRST TRIAL.

UNFORTUNATLEY I DONT HAVE THEM ANYMORE, AND EVEN IF I DID I AM NOT SURE IF I CAN OPEN THEM WITHOUT DAMAGE TO THE CASE, I SUGGEST YOU GO AND BUY ONE TO DO THIS, AND YOU CAN ALWAYS TEST IT YOURSELF ON DIFF FBT'S.

LET ME KNOW OK.....

Feb 21, 2012. 2:28 AMOVERLOADED says:
no i am not screaming, why do ppl take caps so personally? i just forgot to take my caps off , i use it so i can read better, i did not mean for it to imply that i was screaming at you lol, sorry if i gave this impression.

I have mentioned many times now to you about Jimmyproton because he has an instructable that uses the same electronic ballasts we are discussing, i was hoping you would have checked his instructable, it is called How to get 100KV out of your flyback!!! VERY SIMPLE SETUP, or just type 100kv in the search box and look for this tittle.

what he says in his instructions is that the electronic ballasts will only work with FBT's that have at least 11 pins on bottom, he said he tried several 10 pins but they do not work well.
Jan 31, 2012. 1:21 PMOVERLOADED says:
I got this transformer from a Mitsubishi TV can you tell me what are the specs this type? power in power out? where is the primary? how much current? etc. I couldnt find the datasheet online its hard or maybe I don't know how to look, the part number is 350P43902, part name is 24F049HD, also there was TAM and M 9408 as you can clearly see in the picture thx.
Feb 20, 2012. 2:40 AMOVERLOADED says:
you have not responded to all the mail i sent you about the ellectronic ballasts i was telling you about? remember i sent you pics of them, did you do any research on them?
Feb 20, 2012. 2:36 AMOVERLOADED says:
I know but maybe if it output say 20v at 60hz then maybe i can feed it to transistor then to flyback
Feb 21, 2012. 2:20 AMOVERLOADED says:
im saying maybe i can use this transformer as a power supply for a simple transistor driven circuit instead of using an adaptor or batteries, because it may supply more voltage, so if it gave say 20v or more at 60hz then would it not be possible to drive the transistor with this?
Feb 19, 2012. 9:30 PMMaxwell Yun says:
Thanks for this great Instructables page! It worked! (for one minute)

I used a 23 watt CFL bulb (FEIT Electric Conserv-Energy) and didn't cut off the wires to the tube. I found that pins A1 and A3 were the powerful pins. I connected those to my flyback transformer, and it worked! However, after running it for one minute, a component on my flyback driver exploded. I think it was because the flyback transformer was demanding too much electricity from my CFL.

Long story short, try to find a CFL bulb over 23 watts.
Nov 4, 2010. 2:02 PMmaddog101 says:
Hey can somebody help me with how to get the flyback transformer off the circuit board of the CRTmonitor? i don't know if i should break the circuit board or what i should do. can somebody please help me!?
Feb 15, 2012. 9:13 PMMaxwell Yun says:
I just broke the flyback transformer off of the circuit board with cutting pliers. If you can't get it off with any other method, just break it off.
Feb 4, 2012. 4:22 AMOVERLOADED says:
I USED A PROPANE BLOW TORCH IT EASIER LIKE THAT SINCE IT HEATS ALL THE PINS HEAT UP FAST, ITS IMPOSSIBLE TO DO IT WITH AN IRON CAUSE YOU'D HAVE TO GO OVER EACH PIN INDIVIDUALLY , I ALSO USE THE TORCH TO REMOVE MOST OTHER COMPONENTS EASILY, ALSO THE TORCH CAN BE SELF STANDING ON A TABLE WHILE YOU USE BOTH HANDS TO GUIDE THE CIRCUIT PINS ON THE FLAME WHILE PULLING THE TRANS WITH THE OTHER HAND.
Nov 8, 2010. 1:52 AM-Jess- says:
you should just,,, "Unsoder it". if you have a sodering iron, then just get it all hot and stuff, and melt all the soder around whare the flyback transformer is atached. i have no idea how big the flyback transformer is, so you might want some tweezers to grab it while that soder is still melted,,, so that you dont burn your fingers.
Dec 17, 2010. 1:21 AMcroslandjr123 says:
Breaking the board isn't that good a method. A de-soldering pump usually does the job and saves a heap of hassle when removing the flyback from the board.
Nov 6, 2010. 7:29 PMmaddog101 says:
Thanks, now that i have the flyback how do i find the primary and secondary leads?
Dec 17, 2010. 1:25 AMcroslandjr123 says:
For every flyback it varies, so you can't say that every flyback the same pin out configuration. Get a multimeter and set in the ohms range and test every pin until you find a pair with a reading at or close to 1 ohm. I have found two pairs of "primaries" so you will just need to test each one for the best HV output.
Nov 17, 2010. 3:41 AMEric8 says:
sorry


Red Wire
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| 0 0 0 9 .......|
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| 0 0 1... + + |
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Nov 17, 2010. 3:37 AMEric8 says:
Red Wire __________
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| 0 0 0 9 |
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this transformer :
Primary the "+"
Secondary min voltage "1" , max voltage "9"
the second wire the secondary coil is the big red wire that connect to on the screen.

i hope helped you,
can you help me now? please
i bought warm white CFL and this electronic plate output is 70volt, this is ok?
i connected this to the pins and "nothing" happend i connected right the pins are right, after it i smashed my transformer with hammer and saw i connected pins right! i dont know why it dont work, pliz help

Feb 14, 2012. 4:12 PMclevelandstorms says:
I have trouble identifying the pins, and i can't get an ohmeter. I also don't know which of the wires that i soldered to the lightbulb is + or - . which is which?
Feb 14, 2012. 7:18 PMMahitchima says:
+ or - doesnt matter.

the pins are usually the ones shown on the video on these flybacks.
(the 2 last pins on the far left of the half circle)

or you could wind your own coil instead of using the built in one which could give a much better result.
Feb 11, 2012. 12:16 AMOVERLOADED says:
biotele why arent you replying to my msgs anymore?
Feb 11, 2012. 4:34 PMOVERLOADED says:
Ah ok I know what you mean I had same problem while ago and cost me 50 bucks to repair lol,, ok glad to see you back on its just because I sent you pics of the EB's and was wondering what you tought I appreciate it if you could go over all the msgs I sent you and get back to me. I would like to know if you gonna try using similar ballast.

Feb 3, 2012. 10:44 PMOVERLOADED says:
ARE YOU SURE 50mA IS CORRECT? THIS IS .05A IS THIS ENOUGH TO KILL??? WHAT ABOUT ADAPTERS? THEY DELIEVER SAY 12V AT 500mA BUT I DONT THINK IF I TOUCH - AND + OF FEMALE FROM ADAPTER YOU WOULD DIE?
Feb 3, 2012. 10:37 PMOVERLOADED says:
biotele I have not heard from you again? are you not responding to my questions anymore?
Jan 31, 2012. 11:45 PMOVERLOADED says:
Havent heard from you in a while? did you not see the pics I took? any comments?
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