I had to break up the video into 3 segments because YouTube doesn't like to upload things longer than 4 minutes. When you make beads for the first ti...
I used to do lampworking/flameworking making animals, fish, etc. many, many moons ago (before the Cheap stuff came in from overseas and broke me) , you've inspired me to get off my duff and start experimenting with it again, it sounds like it's making a comeback, (I still have my torch and some other tools). When we made beads back then, you could just use baling or tie wire, let the bead cool a bit, stretch the wire while it was still red hot, and the bead would slide off ..... no releases or plasters ..... things change! Nice instructable for recycling the colored glass, Thanks!!
What?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?/ Please explain the whole bail wire thing. It sounds fascinating! I've never in my life heard of that before!!! How did you stretch the wire? Did you have to stretch it far?
It is very important to keep methods from dying. Certain glassworking skills have been forgotten over the eons, and this may be one of them. I like collect these methods and keep them alive. Pass on the knowledge! Thank you!!!!!!!! -Nepheron
Just use any cheap wire you can get at a hardware or farm store, except make sure it's not galvanized because heating zinc is a good way to poison yourself.
When it's red hot, you can pull on the ends to stretch it.
I have a hard time finding glass beads with large holes for stringing on leather cord. I've often joked that I may have to learn to make my own beads just so I can find some I like with the right size holes--now I will know how to do it!
Yes, large hole beads can be hard to find... You might have some success (if you don't get around to making your own!) by searching for Troll, Pandora, or Biagi beads, or their knockoffs. (they're specifically made large hole beads, the holes go from 3.5 mm to 5 mm, fits on most cording & chain, Good Luck!
Nice! Now supposing you wanted to adhere the glass to the spoke. Would there be a problem with expansion differences? Would it adhere? I guess I could try, but I wonder if you already have?
Steel has a low COE (expansion). If you made a bead directly on the spoke without any bead release, you would have what us lampworkers affectionately call a "garden stake". In most cases, the glass won't crack off. It will stick on the spoke forever... unless you beat it with a hammer. LOL
Yep! Just remember: plaster may undergo a chemical change when in the flame! DO NOT use it in a non ventilated room, and don't touch the baked plaster around the bead. It might chemically burn you (it may be highly alkaline), but It has not had any effect on me when I've used it. Also, allow the plaster to cure onto the rod. This make take 3 hours! Apply the plaster in a thin layer or it will crack off in the flame...it will take some fidding to get right! If the plaster is too thin...the bead won't come off...
It sounds to me like it might be a good idea to make your plaster covered rods late at night, and use them the following day after a good night's sleep.
what if you wanted to glass to coat or stick to other kinds of metals as a form of decoration? how does the glass stick to stainless steel or aluminum? or is the melting of point of aluminum lower then glass? and does this affect the color of glass when it sticks to metal? does the glass bond to the metal because the metal is porous and the glass fills in the pores? or does something else cause the glass to bond to the metal?
I've melted fake gold leaf into glass. The effect is QUITE unusual...and difficult to describe. I sort of looks like yellowed parchment paper was wrapped around the bead...
I have done some guilding with real gold leaf. Naturally, it is more expensive than the fake, but you get what you pay for. Some red glass has traces of gold in it.
The glass will likely flake off those surfaces, but it WILL change color. other than that I have no idea. It sounds like you are talking about cloisonné, which is not my specialty. :) -Nepheron
eep! I just realised that your flame heating your beadrelease! big no no. small pockets of superheated watervapour often become trapped under the brittle heated release and pop off unexpectedly. if it hits an eye your in big trouble. it also makes the bead release unstable and prone to cracking and flaking off as you work the glass.
My bead release is flame dry. I buy it because it can do this. If I let it get dry in the air, it sort of 'cures' into a rock hard lump of cement... LOL
yep, let it air dry if you can. just putting it into the flame like that will cause problems, even flame dry release. ussually you have all of your mandrels (stainless steel rods) set up with air dried bead release all ready to go. you can drill a wooden block with appropriate sized holes, dip your release and put it in the drying block. come back in an hour or so, or even a day.
If you are going to flame dry, even with flame dry release, you hold the mandrel high over the flame so that it gently warms the release, turning the mandrel constantly so that you get even heating. the process takes only a minute more and you get much sturdier release and not much chance of super heated water vapour popping the release onto you.
it's important to have a sturdy release so that if you want to start doing things like making flowers in the glass, which involves a lot of dot work and some pushing with a tungsten pick, you don't have the release crack and the bead forever sticking to the mandrel.
(Psst...lots of bead releases are now flame ready) Fireworks, Bucket O Mud, and Fosterfire all have "wet to torch" products. However, it's not "stick it in the fire" ready, you've got to slowly burn off the water & vapor, or yes, you'll have the problem mentioned above. No different than introducing the glass too fast. Pop. Ouch. :(
Yes, I prefer flame dry bead release :) I slowly evaporate the water, then I'm good to go. If you use plaster as a release, DO NOT flame dry it...it explodes LOL
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Nice instructable for recycling the colored glass, Thanks!!
Please explain the whole bail wire thing. It sounds fascinating! I've never in my life heard of that before!!!
How did you stretch the wire? Did you have to stretch it far?
It is very important to keep methods from dying.
Certain glassworking skills have been forgotten over the eons, and this may be one of them. I like collect these methods and keep them alive. Pass on the knowledge!
Thank you!!!!!!!!
-Nepheron
When it's red hot, you can pull on the ends to stretch it.
You might have some success (if you don't get around to making your own!)
by searching for Troll, Pandora, or Biagi beads, or their knockoffs.
(they're specifically made large hole beads, the holes go from 3.5 mm to 5 mm, fits on most cording & chain,
Good Luck!
for those who want something dressier than a #2 pencil...
B^)
Mike
Also, allow the plaster to cure onto the rod. This make take 3 hours!
Apply the plaster in a thin layer or it will crack off in the flame...it will take some fidding to get right! If the plaster is too thin...the bead won't come off...
Good luck!
how does the glass stick to stainless steel or aluminum? or is the melting of point of aluminum lower then glass?
and does this affect the color of glass when it sticks to metal?
does the glass bond to the metal because the metal is porous and the glass fills in the pores? or does something else cause the glass to bond to the metal?
I'd be concerned about the noxious fumes from aluminum.
The glass will likely flake off those surfaces, but it WILL change color.
other than that I have no idea. It sounds like you are talking about cloisonné, which is not my specialty.
:)
-Nepheron
:)
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If you are going to flame dry, even with flame dry release, you hold the mandrel high over the flame so that it gently warms the release, turning the mandrel constantly so that you get even heating. the process takes only a minute more and you get much sturdier release and not much chance of super heated water vapour popping the release onto you.
it's important to have a sturdy release so that if you want to start doing things like making flowers in the glass, which involves a lot of dot work and some pushing with a tungsten pick, you don't have the release crack and the bead forever sticking to the mandrel.
Fireworks, Bucket O Mud, and Fosterfire all have "wet to torch" products.
However, it's not "stick it in the fire" ready, you've got to slowly burn off the water & vapor, or yes, you'll have the problem mentioned above.
No different than introducing the glass too fast. Pop. Ouch.
:(
I slowly evaporate the water, then I'm good to go.
If you use plaster as a release, DO NOT flame dry it...it explodes LOL
The videos are great in demonstrating how long it takes to do each step, and how much time the glass should spend in the flame at each stage.