Make Nitric acid - The Complete Guide

 by NurdRage
video Make Nitric acid - The Complete Guide
We show 3 ways to make nitric acid based on two different chemical approaches both of which can be done using easily accessible materials.

Warning: The procedures in this video produce large quantities of toxic gases and deal with highly corrosive acids. All work must be performed in a fume hood with proper safety equipment. And all apparatus must be glass to withstand the acids.

Chemically, nitric acid is made by bubbling nitrogen dioxide into water. So the objective in this approach is to generate nitrogen dioxide. This can be done by reacting hydrochloric acid, a nitrate salt and copper. Around 80grams of sodium nitrate, over 30 grams of copper and 100mL of hydrochloric acid are the quantities needed. The exact amount is not critical. For useable concentrations, the amount of water being converted should be small, around 20-50mL.

Any source of nitrate is usable including potassium nitrate, ammonium nitrate and even nitrate-based fertilizers. You can use our previous video on testing for nitrates if you want to determine if yours can be used. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5M3rUqaEYs

The tricky part now is leading the gas into water. Two approaches are shown in the video. In the first approach three containers, such as jars are place inside each other to force the gas to go into the water. This is very inefficient but is very simple to do.

The better approach is to lead the gas out of the generator through a tube and into a chilled container of water.

The water that is converted into nitric acid can be replaced with hydrogen peroxide for better yield.

The chemical waste that is generated contains the valuable copper used before and recovering it is worthwhile due to todays high copper prices. This is simply done by putting in enough aluminum metal that it reacts with all the acids and copper in solution to create a slurry of copper. This can be filtered to obtain a residue of copper. it is highly contaminated but can still be used to make more nitric acid.

Finally, the last way of making pure nitric acid is to react concentrated sulfuric acid and a pure nitrate salt (NOT fertilizer) and heat it in a glass distillation apparatus to distill over the pure nitric acid. Stochiometric quantities of both reagents are recommended for maximum yield.

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garpigeon says: Aug 9, 2012. 8:56 AM
How can I purify the nitric acid produced in the third step? By this I mean extract the NOx radicals dissolved in the acid. I read something about urea somewhere but it didn't go into any detail.
garpigeon in reply to garpigeonAug 15, 2012. 6:49 AM
I found out how to do this if anyone was wondering, if you apply a vacuum to the nitric acid of 27 kPa for about 15 mins it will remove the dissolved NOx gasses in the nitric acid, leaving you with almost pure white fuming nitric acid. This only applies to the acid made in the third method.
ilieva says: Jul 8, 2012. 7:46 PM
I was engraving and etching different metal plates (steal, copper, alloys) with concentrated white vinegar - it works on almost any metal except GOLD and SILVER. Off-course it is slow etching / dissolving but it works. Just a thought to consider.

regards: Victoria
ShutterBugger says: Jan 20, 2012. 12:07 PM
I just discovered http://www.sciencemadness.org/ and it's "Energetic Materials" section, where you can find TONS of interesting chemistry.

There is also a very interesting "The Los Alamos Technical Reports Collection" section.
~Bob~
NurdRage (author) in reply to ShutterBuggerJan 20, 2012. 3:24 PM
I know the site, they don't like videos so i stopped posting there.

As for the energetic materials, i tend to stay away from that since i want to show the public the other 99% of chemistry that doesn't involve explosives :)
roddamorales in reply to NurdRageJul 7, 2012. 11:02 AM
thats true nice thinking
Krimm says: Apr 26, 2012. 9:06 AM
I found this while surfing Hydrogen generators and HCl acid vs sulfuric acid. I thought I was a genius, but damn, you are clearly the Uber-nerd. That thing about generating Hydrogen Gas. you cold capture this and burn it, at least for the one hour that the copper was uh... what ever...
science68031 says: Apr 13, 2012. 11:09 PM
What temperature should the oil bath be?
BornOnFire says: Jan 6, 2012. 6:42 PM
Last check, Nitric Acid was available online for $30.00 per liter. Might be not only a cheaper solution for some folks but also a SAFER one. especially for those who do not have a fume hood handy. Just sayin......
NurdRage (author) in reply to BornOnFireJan 6, 2012. 7:23 PM
The objective here is not to make nitric acid cheaply, the objective is to explore the science.
BornOnFire in reply to NurdRageJan 6, 2012. 8:31 PM
Not trying to be a downer. I was just stating that to perhaps give people perspective. Especially for people like me who would probably burn the house down if attempted at home. I actually admire your project and love the science as well. Nicely done!
NurdRage (author) in reply to BornOnFireJan 6, 2012. 8:35 PM
True :)
madmans firework emporium says: Apr 4, 2011. 1:02 AM
just two questions,
1, if if nitric acid is the only one strong enough to dissolve copper, what does ferric chloride do to PCBs?
2 can you kill two birds with one stone andetch a PCB in the hydrochloric/nitrate
NurdRage (author) in reply to madmans firework emporiumApr 4, 2011. 6:22 AM
1.ferric chloride is not an acid, its a salt.

2. if your objective is to etch PCBs then go for it. Although not all applications requiring nitric acid can be replaced this way.
craigkrekorian says: Jan 9, 2011. 9:41 PM
Thank you for a great demonstration.

I have been interested in this type of chemistry for a long time.

Nitric acid is used in the mining industry and in machine shop processes.

I have had a few uses in the past for this acid in both of these industries, but did not have this knowledge or an easy way to obtain it then.

Rest assured, I will use this responsibly and safely.

Keep up the great work ;-)

blacksmithedpony says: Jan 9, 2011. 9:28 AM
A drop of nitric acid is what i needed to test the purity of some silver tid bits I've had laying around. Was relieved to find that you'd made this ible. Simple steps and low cost, much thanks
The Ideanator says: Jun 4, 2009. 3:55 PM
wow, that was easier then i thought it would be, just dont mix the highly concentrated stuff and Hexamine, it might get some people upset (the government)
qualia in reply to The IdeanatorApr 14, 2010. 10:16 PM
rofl. rdx ftw
lemonie says: Jun 4, 2009. 2:00 PM
Oooh, this might be nice but it's all wrong (in principle). Nitric acid is made from ammonia, and nitrates are made from that, so you're going backwards here... Is there anyway of burning ammonia in the lab? L
Jaycub in reply to lemonieJan 26, 2010. 5:51 PM
lemonie in reply to JaycubJan 26, 2010. 11:40 PM
NurdRage (author) in reply to lemonieJun 4, 2009. 2:16 PM
All wrong? so I'm not making nitric acid? The point is not to make nitric acid on an industrial scale. The point is to enable an individual without a massive platinum-rhodium catalyst to make it themselves. Electric heating is also going "backwards": a power plant uses a powerful thermal reaction, such as coal, oil, natural gas or nuclear and then drives a generator to make electricity which is sent to your house. Your electric "furnace" or stove converts that back into heat for home use. Sounds backwards, but this is still done for many homes due to convenience and safety issues. Its more convenient to make nitric acid by converting commercial nitrates than to reduce nitrogen into ammonia and then oxidize ammonia into nitric acid. Sorry if this violates scientific principles. Reducing nitrogen on an industrial scale is done by the Haber process where nitrogen is reacted with hydrogen under high pressure and temperature over a catalyst. Oxidation of ammonia is done by the Ostwald process using a platinum-rhodium catalyst. Both methods are entirely beyond the individual due to extreme costs.
qualia in reply to NurdRageApr 14, 2010. 10:09 PM
bravo.
Perankhscribe in reply to NurdRageJan 14, 2010. 11:56 PM
A good article describing this process is here:
http://www.epa.gov/ttnchie1/ap42/ch08/final/c08s08.pdf

Honestly I think Lemonie is missing the point here.  The approach NurdRage is demonstrating is a very useful reaction for an amateur chemist.   I did want to note however that you can get platinum off ebay which is extremely pure.   Now rhodium is another matter, but if you have the platinum you can do it.

Electrical arcing....  It does work but its inefficient and contaminated.   If I am not mistaken there is some ammonia produced by the arcing method.   Free radicals also tend to react and make more complicated products.  (They say this is how the building blocks of life were made.)
qualia in reply to PerankhscribeApr 14, 2010. 10:09 PM
yeah because platinum isn't expensive at all.
Jaycub in reply to PerankhscribeJan 26, 2010. 5:47 PM
I don't see how ammonia would be made in a berkland eyed reactor... but yeah lemonie is deffinately not saying a true thing. Nitrate salts can be made by microorganisms and extracted from the dirt they live in (then converted to hno3 and k2so4 by reaction with h2so4), or nitric acid can be made from ammonia which was made in the haber process (or whatever way it was made), and there's always the BE reactor. There's nothing wrong with Nurdrage's ways.
lemonie in reply to NurdRageJun 4, 2009. 2:52 PM
My thinking was along the lines of: nitrate & nitric acid equilibrate, so if you add hydrochloric acid to nitrate you're done in that step. But more than that, if you've got the fume hood, proper safety equipment and all apparatus you've got a bottle of nitric acid in your lab anyway (and you have I know). It's nice to see but isn't really practical. I've seen US army handbooks on improvised munitions explain how to concentrate (car) battery-acid, produce nitric, make nitrating mixture, improvise explosives etc - I do get it. I'm just being picky on a point of principle, nothing more than that - I like this stuff! L
Jaycub in reply to lemonieSep 1, 2009. 7:14 PM
"...if you add hydrochloric acid to nitrate you're done in that step." Does this mean that I could just mix kno3 with muriatic acid and it would be nitric acid even without the bubbling step?
lemonie in reply to JaycubSep 1, 2009. 11:11 PM
Yes. But that wouldn't give you concentrated nitric acid.

L
Jaycub in reply to lemonieSep 2, 2009. 8:43 AM
If I boiled the water out of the muriatic acid and mixed concentrated hydrochloric acid with the kno3 would the nitric acid be stronger? Then could I distill it to make it even stronger? My bubbling experiment didn't work very well.
lemonie in reply to JaycubSep 2, 2009. 10:44 AM
Theoretically yes, but these things equilibrate and stuff. What do you want nitric acid for anyway? L
Jaycub in reply to lemonieSep 2, 2009. 11:45 AM
There are a lot of uses for it, mostly explosives.
lemonie in reply to JaycubSep 2, 2009. 12:18 PM
Often with sulphuric (concentrated) so why not use that? L
Jaycub in reply to lemonieSep 2, 2009. 12:21 PM
My first experiment will be nitrocellulose, then urea nitrate. And anyway I need more supplies before I can make sulfuric acid.
lemonie in reply to JaycubSep 2, 2009. 12:32 PM
Nitric acid will happily hydrolyse cellulose if it's too wet, but you might be able to find some celluloid somewhere (wikipedia it for uses as a material)

L
NurdRage (author) in reply to JaycubSep 2, 2009. 11:57 AM
I do not condone or assist in the making of explosives or weapons.
Perankhscribe in reply to NurdRageJan 14, 2010. 11:58 PM
Agreed.   These people are going to hurt themselves or somebody else. 
Jaycub in reply to NurdRageSep 2, 2009. 12:10 PM
Not for weapons, just for fun.
NurdRage (author) in reply to JaycubSep 2, 2009. 12:13 PM
Creating deadly improvised explosive devices that have killed and maimed for FUN?
Jaycub in reply to NurdRageSep 2, 2009. 12:16 PM
I'm not a terrorist!!! They only kill or maime if you use them wrong. I just really like fireworks.
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