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Make Your Own Miniature Electric Hub Motor

Step 14Resources, Links, and Knowledge Base

Resources, Links, and Knowledge Base
Motor Parts

ý GoBrushless
These guys mainly deal in small aircraft motors, but their rotor designer is a godsend. They also sell stock stators in the 50mm and 60mm size range.

ý Super Magnet Man
Reputable dealer of stock AND CUSTOM! neodymium high strength magnets. All of my motor magnets have come from him. George is a friendly person to deal with and chock full of all kinds of magnet information.

Custom magnets from George generally take 3 to 4 weeks to manufacture and are priced only slightly above stock magnets. This is absolutely phenomenal: For a bit more cash, you can have a full circle of magnets customized to your motor.

ý Protolam
These guys supplied the iron for the BWD Scooter gratis. They have in house punches and LASER cutters and will make small quantities for your experimentation

ý Your local motor shop
Got a local electric motor rebuilder? Give them a visit. They'll be glad to see a motor which doesn't require a forklift and 8 guys to handle. High-grade magnet wire and potential harvestable motors.

General Parts

ý Hobby King

A certified legit™ hobby products dealer out of Hong Kong. Mind-blowing pricing on everything, and they make no attempt to hide the fact that their products are Chinese in origin. You can put together an entire EV hacker powertrain just from the parts on this site. Stock up on lithium batteries before the Fed regulate bare Li packs out of existence.

Their large outrunner motors are inexpensive enough to consider cannibalizing for stators.

ý McMaster-Carr

I shouldn't even have to mention these guys. If you can think of it, they probably carry it, else it's not worth buying. Magnet wire in "huge" and "holy crap" gauge, raw materials, bearings, adhesives, and hackable wheels are just a few motor-relevant things I can think of that you can find there.

ý Kelly Controller

Purveyors of fine (Chinese) motor controllers in sensored, sensorless, both, and neither (DC). Their KDS line of mini-controllers will be perfect for your small sensored hub motor. You can also be lazy and just buy one from them.

ý VXB Bearings

Because all legit bearing manufacturers have 3 letter names. Inexpensive bearings for your motors. I've gotten all my bearings for everything I've built from here. Everything I've built since discovering them, that is.

ý Speedy Metals

Where I got my Giant Steel Death-Tube from for Razer's motor. Get raw materials for the mechanical structure of your motor here.

Knowledge and Reference

ý The Southern Soaring Club Reader Articles

Contains one the best brushless motor primer I have seen. Electric Motors part 1 - 5 is worth a read to get more background on the matter.

ý Emetor Brushless Motor Designer

Everything I just said and more wrapped up in a handy spreadsheet style calculator! Forget "4 * N * B * L * R", it will give you everything from back EMF profile to torque ripped to phase voltages and inductances. To use it properly, you MUST know critical dimensions and materials of your motor. But it's about as close as you can get to building it and throw it on the dyno.


ý Powercroco

This site is a veritable platinum mine of motor information and theory... if you can read German. Alot is lost in translation if you use an automatic translator, so find your nearest German guy and press him into service? Dr. Okon is the progenitor of the famous and useful Kombinationstabelle.

ý The RC Groups Motor Design and Construction forum

Always welcoming of newcomers and people with questions. The Crazy German R/C Airplane Guys here represent a vast majority of all motor limits-pushing that has occured in the hobby.

ý LRK Torquemax

Learn more about the background of the LRK winding here.

ý My site.

Not to be one to self-plug, but I have a bad good habit of keeping detailed build logs about EVERYTHING. Documented are all the rebuilds of RazEr, its predecessor Snuffles, and my most famous creation, the LOLrioKart.

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12 comments
Mar 28, 2012. 9:02 AMnumberonebikeslover says:
Great Job; Two thumbs up for this instructable. I feel a bit sorry for I have only the words of thanks and nothing else to give. You really deserve an award for such a comprehensive study that you have done on BLDC motors. I salute you and wish you all the best of luck throughout your future endeavors.
Respectfully Yours; Naeem from Pakistan
Feb 27, 2011. 5:50 PMVolksJagger says:
And it comes with a laugh in every step... WTG!
Feb 22, 2011. 6:28 PMSky Woulf says:
this was great! so um....
how would i go about designing/building one for my moutain bike.
Feb 27, 2011. 12:40 PModvratno.zgodan says:
I'm thinking of the same thing but as I have a freeride frame I'd like to put the motor on the ISCG mount of the chain guard. I found out that motorbike stators are about 10-12 cm in diameter with a significantly large inner diameter and most of them have 12 poles. This way I could use the back gearing for better eficiency and SPEED :-). I first intended to make a flat/axial motor but using the motorbike stator makes it so much easier because the the stator should be easy to obtain.
Plan on starting when I get my hands on a stator from a junkyard. Hopefuly soon...
Jul 10, 2010. 1:00 PMGENERALCHAOS says:
omg i did my winding wrong i did winding to next and next teeth not lik the pic shows winding then other side winding on my 15 teeth 3 layer plate that came off a floppy drive i was doing a project making a small scale motor and generator all in 1 the generator is to boost more power to the motor put i remember i dont have a lathe or other tools to finish it
Jul 9, 2010. 12:07 PMFilter says:
Very well done, thank you.
Mar 27, 2010. 2:31 PMroberto sirigu says:
El Mejor Trabajo asta el Momento gracis
Feb 28, 2010. 6:15 PMurbanprimate says:
Well done!  I doubt I'll be building anything like this, but it sure helped me understand how electric motors work!

Feb 20, 2010. 6:44 PMNuno says:
Yes indeed, congratulations! Excellent piece of study and work.
Feb 4, 2010. 10:55 PMrpcook says:
Awesome!  Thanks.
Feb 4, 2010. 8:35 PMprasadk says:
Very well explained, one of the best here. Thank you very much for the post.
Feb 4, 2010. 7:41 PMelmod says:
enfin un qui ose
bravo pour le travail ça c est de l'intructable comme comme j aime
encore merci pour ce travail très documenter une bonne vulgarisation
j espère que vous ait le premier d une longue file

sorry for french
Finally a which(who) dares.
Bravo for the work.
That  is of the intructable as as i like(love).
Still thank you for this work.
Very inform.
A good popularization.
i hope that the first one for long line has you


Feb 4, 2010. 9:25 AMjos4816 says:
By far the most interesting instructable ever

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