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Make a Retro-Ascot Neck Tie

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Modding 2 conventional neckties into one reversible retro-ascot.

Needed:
- Two conventional neckties of sufficient width, and almost the same width.
- Sewing machine, seam ripper, steam iron, fabric scissors, matching thread, pins, hand needle.
- Basic machine skills and sewing terminology.

The tie will be reversible, and suitable as a formal ascot, or for retro-fashion like Steam Punk or Victorian. But unlike a genuine cravat, the tail end will be half the width of the visible front. In most applications, this makes no difference.

I've only ever seen one ascot tie in person. This project is patterned after that piece. The ascot is worn formally around the collar for "morning dress" (see Wikipedia), but was also worn inside the collar as casual wear for upper-class Yachtsmen and for other sports like golf. You'll see this in sit-coms of the 60's like Gilligan's Island.

Because conventional neckties are cut on the bias (diagonally from the yardage) you will notice when working that they tend to stretch in their length. Silk cut in rectangles would not behave this way.
 
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Step 1: Choosing neck ties to re-purpose

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In the vintage or thrift store, or in your own closet, look for the widest ties. Necktie fashions from the late 60's, the early 70's or recently will be the widest and they will give you enough fabric when opened up. The mid-80's was OK, but there was a brief "skinny tie" period copying the early 60's.

Notice that a necktie is roughly twice as wide when you open up the back. Bonus! For traditional formal wear, the pattern should be gray stripe or textured silk, not printed. The colors of the two ties need not be related because only one side will show at a time. The pieces should be stain-free and snag-free on the wide end.
torstenp162 years ago
Thank you, furtographer! I have a civil war-era ball coming up, and I decided I needed something fancier than the regular necktie... and it's even cooler that it's homemade! I will definitely make this.
Awesome idea! I've just gotten into making accessories for men and this is a great twist on up-cycling old ties! Thank you for sharing!
gseo2 years ago
Nice. really awesome this!! thanks
rramos122 years ago
Good instructions. You sport a magnificent beard and nose spike looks fantastic. Do you wear it in public? Do you get any comments?
alidasaxon3 years ago
Another way that would be to tie a bead to a length of sturdy thread, make sure the bead lays outside what you are sewing, and the thread runs up between the layers and out the end. The only difficult part is making sure you don't trim the thread by accident when you're trimming your seams.

Then gently pull the string when you are ready to turn it inside out. Once it is right side out, cut the thread and shake the bead out. No damage to the seam or fabric. :)
Excellent 'structable, thanks very much. Ties look very simple in your hand, and we see them so often we never really stop to think about how they're made, but their construction is surprisingly intricate. Kind of like tying them, I suppose - I'm still not very good at that :-)

What this needs is a steampunk tie pin to really finish it off: http://industrialradical.com/category/shop/jewellery/tie-pins/

Good work!
Nola Yergen3 years ago
I do theatre costuming and this is gonna come in sooo handy for that as well as my steampunk obsession. Thanks for sharing!
Thanks mate! I did one of these, out of an old pashmina of my Mum, and worn it to my Prom :)
Culturespy3 years ago
Been meaning to post for a bit and say thanks. I made one that turned out quite nicely! Great job on making the process so clear. Working on another one right now.
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Really wonderful instructable!! thank you for this! :D
agent0364 years ago
Thanks for making this instructable. The cravat is the last item I needed for my steam punk outfit and I'm all out of funds, but I've got some great old ties!
LemurX4 years ago
 Made this as my first project on my new sewing machine! Turned out quite well all thanks to your instructable. 
The easiest way to turn the tie inside out, would be to tuck a ribbon in the very tip of the point of the bottom seam before you sew it, then leave it long enough to run longer than the length of the tie, letting it dangle out the end. Stitch and trim as you've indicated, then pull on the ribbon. It will turn the ties inside out. When you've gotten it flipped, pull out your seam ripper, and tear out the part with the ribbon. Take out the ribbon, then hand tack the ties closed again. Voila!
Awesome instructable. I'll have to look at my old ties and see if I have some reconstruction to do. Thanks!
Kaelessin5 years ago
awesome! this is EXACTLY what I was looking for!
devinj5 years ago
great instructable. how long did the fashionable beard take to grow? or more importantly, the moustache? i'm working on one of my own and wonder how much further i have to go.
looks like its at about six months .or thats about how mine looks in six months
furtographer (author)  somebullcrap5 years ago
Beard update: growth time: March-November: http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=1622462&id=811449324
And a second tie.
bosnia135 years ago
this is definitely interesting. I'd consider making this myself. no sewing machine though... might have to coerce someone into making it for me.
sirant5 years ago
Sweet! What a fantastic instructable! I never knew how to do an ascot tie, but I will certainly give it a go now! Thanks for the blast from the past!
sirant5 years ago
Just a note, fopr us "chubby" (ok, fat) fellers out there this modification may not be required, depending how much beer, I mean belly. is sticking out...
sirant5 years ago
Ewwwww! Skinny ties!!! Almost (though not quite as bad) as the old 80's leather "zipper" tie's.... Your idea is WAY WAY WAY WAY cooler! And then some!
revjim50005 years ago
This, good sir, is very well done. I was looking for something quick-n-dirty for Talk Like A Pirate day, but I will definitely be returning when I have a moment to class myself up a bit.
9995925 years ago
i do believe the proper name for this type of tie is Cravat, However i could be wrong.
finfan7 9995925 years ago
This is actually a bit different. This goes from thin to THICK. A cravat goes from THICK to thin to THICK. A cravat is actually a bit closer to a bow tie.
999592 finfan75 years ago
thank you i appreciate the correction
furtographer (author)  9995925 years ago
It's fake. I can call it whatever I want.
PCPkillz5 years ago
Looks great! The ascot isn't bad, either. I wish this look would come back, it's so classy.
kretzlord5 years ago
you could tie a thread to the inside of the pre-stiched tip and just pull it through at the end, might beat the cuff method.
bustedit5 years ago
Yes, a very proper dapper dan, very nice. I cannot grow a beard at work, bcuz I work in EMS, even though I ride a desk and will probably never have patient contact ever again. I am jealous of your beard and tailoring skills, but think you missed the pincushion...
wobblestar5 years ago
HoHo. Very nice!

Will this look - including nose bone - end up as acceptable or unacceptable on Royal Ascot's website. We can hope :-)

http://www.ascot.co.uk/royal/dress_acceptable.html
this is like old school hardcore, nice dude
bumpus5 years ago
Agreed with W'burg! Very well written, and good pictures!
Very snazzy!
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