Introduction: Making Medicinal All-Salt

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Medicinal salt is a combination of sea salt and pharmaceuticals. Medicinal salt can be made by evaporating saltwater that contains pharmaceuticals from urban wastewater. Medicinal salt has not only a great natural salty taste, but can also address headaches, depression, infections, and a host of other common ailments. 

It's easy to make your own medicinal salt. The process involves finding a water treatment plant, harvesting its treated water output (effluent), building simple salt evaporation ponds, and collecting the dried sea salt.

What you need: 

a local water treatment plant
4 x 5 gallon buckets
wood: two 10ft 2x6"s for the length and two 6ft 2"x6" boards. We made 3 ponds, but one will suffice.
At least 35 square feet of 3mil - 6mil plastic sheet or heavy-duty pond lining (any color, but black will generate the most heat, which is good for evaporation)
staple gun and staples (3/8", 10mm)
1" wood screws
steel corner braces.
black gaffers tape

For more information on the salt we make go to

Step 1: Find a Source

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Find out if your local wastewater contains pharmaceuticals. Some information may be found on your local wastewater treatment plant's website, but specific information is generally not, and may only be in the form of reports or studies that your local wastewater treatment plant should be able to point you towards. Call your local plant, and ask if their wastewater contains what professionals and scientists call "pharmaceuticals and personal care product" contaminants (PPCP's): drugs and other industrial, agricultural, and domestic compounds, often classified as "emerging contaminants". 

Find out where your local wastewater treatment plant drains its treated wastewater - usually to a nearby stream or reservoir, lake or river, beach, or bay. This information may be on the plant's website, but you may also need to call to ask. You can also uses Google maps' satellite view to see a plant's treatment facilities and grounds in order to locate drainage channels or sloughs coming from the plant.

We found our source in San Jose, CA on the Artesian Slough that comes from the San Jose/Santa Clara Water Pollution Control Plant.

Step 2: Collect Water

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Collect water as close to the actual wastewater drainage point as possible. This is where pharmaceutical concentrations will be highest. Often, the immediate drainage points will be fenced off to the public, or only accessible some distance from the plant itself, so just get as close as you can. Coastal water collection is best for making pharmaceutical salts, but not everyone has access to the coast. In this case, freshwater from rivers or lakes can be collected and enriched with any food-grade salt to make saltwater.

- Saltwater Location: Find a place where the 'fresh' water from the wastewater treatment plant mixes with the saltwater into which it deposits (ocean, bay). Harvest water from this location.

- Freshwater Location: Try to gather water from a place with the least amount of suspended sediment or plant matter - just get the freshest water available, closes to the outlet of the wastewater treatment facility.

5 gallon buckets from Home Depot are cheap and good way to contain the water.
Each trip we carried 10 x 5gallon bucks with the help of a dolly. A dolly will save your back!

Step 3: Clean the Water

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Clean the water (if needed): depending on where you collect your water (an ocean beach, a freshwater creek, a stagnant pond), your water may contain suspended matter that you do not want to end up in your salt. You can put this water through any filtration process that you are comfortable with, depending on the purity of your source water - you could use something as course as cheese cloth or even a camping pump-filter. Do NOT filter using a reverse-osmosis system, as this process will remove pharmaceutical compounds - carbon filtration systems will not, however.

We used a nylon paint filter that we bought at a hardware store, because it fit nicely over the 5 gallon buckets. Simply fit the filter over the bucket, pour the water through the filter, then remove the filter when the bucket is full. Your water is now ready to pour into your evaporation pond.

Step 4: Make Evaporation Ponds

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Make evaporation ponds: You will want to create a saltwater evaporation pond in a flat outside space. For the water collected by two 5-gallon buckets, construct a pond the dimensions of 3'x5'x6". For a pond of these dimensions, you will need the following:

wood: two 10ft 2x6"s for the length and two 6ft 2"x6" boards. We made 3 ponds, but one will suffice.
At least 35 square feet of 3mil - 6mil plastic sheet or heavy-duty pond lining (any color, but black will generate the most heat, which is good for evaporation)
staple gun and staples (3/8", 10mm)
1" wood screws
steel corner braces.
black gaffers tape

Form the 2"x6" boards into a 10'x6' rectangle, with the boards' 6" side forming the vertical height of the box. screw the ends of the boards together using the metal corner braces.

Spread plastic sheeting over the wooden box, and pulling the plastic somewhat taut (but loose enough so that at least 50% of the plastic rests flat on the ground under the pond), staple the edges of the plastic sheet to the wood frame.

Place a strip of gaffers tape across the plastic sheeting where the sheet will wrap over the top of the wooden frame once you have stapled it to the frame. It helps to first staple the sheeting to the wood near the corners to hold the sheeting in place while you tape and then fully staple it down. The tape reinforces the thin plastic sheeting, and prevents it from tearing when day/night temperature changes cause the plastic sheeting to shrink and expand. Extra plastic sheeting may be trimmed or tucked under the edges of the structure.

Step 5: Pick a Sunny Spot

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Place pond in a sunny and flat location. Check make sure you have good sunlight coverage from morning until dusk. In warmer arid climates, evaporation will occur much faster than in wetter, cooler locations - and we recommend you harvest your salt in the summer or when it's unlikely to rain.

Step 6: Fill the Pond

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Fill your pond with the water you collected from the water treatment plant, and that you've already filtered (in Step 3). Fill the pond to 1.2-2" deep. On an uneven surface, the water will pool in one section of the pond - this is fine, and will cause salts to condense at this point as the water evaporates. 

Step 7: Evaporation

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Evaporation: Just wait. Depending on the weather, this could take between 3 to 7 days.

If you have a longer period of time to work with, and especially if you live in a dependably dry and sunny place, you can continue to add saltwater to the pond to create an increasingly saltier brine. This extended evaporation process will result in the making of more salt per pond, and a a greater concentration of pharmaceuticals (more water = more salt + more drugs).

Step 8: Final Step

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When your salt water is almost dry - soupy, rather than hard, dry salt, remove saltwater from the pond, and place in a pot to boil off the remaining water (and eliminate any bacteria that may have been present in the water, or accumulated during the evaporation process). When salt is dry, scrape from the bottom on your pot into the container of your choice.

Step 9: Whats in Medicinal Salt?

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Every water treatment plant will have different types and amounts of pharmaceuticals, depending on many variables: the size of local cities, whether or not it is an urban or rural location, local populations' consumption of drugs, the method of water treatment used by the plant, and into what type of water the wastewater drains.

Our water source was a freshwater channel composed entirely of treated wastewater that runs directly into a relatively stagnant saltwater. According to the local wastewater treatment plant and a nearby estuary science organization, our salt contained the following:

Primary Active Ingredients:
azithromycin ~ antibiotic
carbamezepine ~ anticonvulsant and mood stabilizer
fluoxitine ~ antidepressant
oflaxacin ~ antibiotic
albuterol ~ bronchodilator
erythromycin-H2O ~ antibiotic
lincomycin ~ antibiotic
sulfamethoxazole ~ antibiotic
caffeine ~ psychoactive stimulant
erythromycin hydrate ~ antibiotic
gemfibrozil ~ cholesterol reduction medication
diltiazem ~ blood pressure medication
trimethoprim ~ antibiotic

May Also Contain:
ibuprofen ~ anti-inflammatory and pain relief medication
naproxen ~ anti-inflammatory and pain relief medication
estrone ~ estrogenic hormone
stigmasterol ~ plant steroid used in the manufacture of syntehtic hormones
tetracycline ~ antibiotic
clarithromycin ~ antibiotic
ranitidine ~ antihistamine
codeine ~ opiate
cotinine ~ alkaloid found in tobacco
cimetidine ~ antihistamine
diphenhydramine ~ antihistimine
metformin ~ anti-diabetic medication
sulfadiazine ~ antibiotic
ciproflaxin ~ antibiotic

~ other trace minerals and chemical compounds including: antibacterial and antifungal compounds from household and personal care products, pesticides and insecticides, PBDEs (flame retardants), and PCBs (electrical coolants).

For further background information and our research you can go to


Qcks (author)2014-05-26

Ehhh.... This was obviously not serious when he basically said "Sewage" on page one. Waste water is sewage.

That all said, there is some interesting bits. IF you're really getting those compounds out of that water, then the native bacterial populations there have developed resistance to those antibiotics. That makes them easy to isolate.

shahzaib11 (author)2014-02-15

Im glad to see that people are actually writing about this issue in such
a smart way, showing us all different sides to it. Please keep it up.

CrayfishYAY (author)2012-08-04

At 1st, I believed the creator. But then, I read the comments. : l

urbanwoodswalker (author)2010-09-18

How-To: Pharmaceutical-Rich All-Salt
This is not only a serious farce...but a joke. It was never meant to be serious. why was this posted as a CRAFT feature????

There are several reasons why it is a farce...and as one who has been studying WATER ever since I won the Save My Oceans Contest...The piece on the CRAFT blog for September 18 2010 should be removed!

1. No water reclamation plant does anything but treat the leftover dredged chemicals in the untreated as extreme bio hazards.

2. The outstandingly complex array of pharmatcueticals would combine for deadly consequences if injested. Just take a look at all these articles:

3. I am an avid follower and promoter of the CRAFT blog...but this sure makes the blog lose all least for today. I feel total shame for whoever passed this as a feature.

Hey there, I'm the one who posted it on CRAFT, I called the project "cheeky," clearly didn't intend to "pass it as a feature." We post lots of stuff every day, not everything is a CRAFT original project. And anyway, part of why this art project is so successful is that it makes you say "wait, is this for real?"

mpeters2 (author)bekathwia2012-02-02

Hi Bekathwia, this is hilarious, I'd really like to talk to you about it for a radio programme we're producing on drugs. Would you be able to drop me a line with your contact number so we can have a chat? My email address is

I understand. However I know that some did not. there are many gullible folks out there. I still think that Craft putting it up mixed in with their regular features was a tad irresponsible. i could understand if it was featured on Tree Hugger or another environmental green blog. That would get the environmental folks (me) chuckling and thinking, "Hey thats a good joke here."

However, the placement on a craft blog as a serious topic, and the link to the "product" was very realistic . it was brought to my attention from a couple of folks on facebook. They thought it was a real product.

Don't dilute the excellent CRAFT brand was an irresponsible moment.
Please pass this along . Thanks.

Irresponsible? I'm responsible for spreading the word about projects we as a team find interesting and thought-provoking, not for writing disclaimers about art projects. Worst case scenario is that it takes some folks longer than others to "get it." Not everyone has to like every single post or project, glad you like most of the rest of them! =]

JFrazer1 (author)bekathwia2010-10-12

This is an extremely inappropriate venue for this sort of satire. Mixed right in the middle of the serious fare... When did this become a comedy site. I love instructables for its usefulness. This is just nonsense.

drinkmorecoffee (author)JFrazer12010-10-12

I actually find this instructable quite useful.
It's a lighthearted, humorous way to bring to light certain issues pertaining to drinking-water. I laughed, and then forwarded this to a few people who I know are doing research on these very same issues. I have no doubt they will laugh too. The point, I gather, isn't that it's merely a joke or satire, but a humorous/satirical tool to spread awareness. There's a difference.

I agree. However in platform of featuring on Craft is where I was alerted to. since I won the Save My Oceans contest on CRAFT, I thought to make a point clear.

It was a serious commentary hidden in a completely unrelated platform. I have never seen this done before on Craft is all. It was not light hearted and humorous IMO. There were folks that emailed me and wondered if it was for real. They believed it. They were confused.

"Light hearted and humorous is a lego halloween costume, or bacon printed purses. Let us peacefully agree to disagree. (((Hugs)))


Perhaps the article could end with some indication that is was a farce/joke, that would probably be more then enough for most of readers. What we might not want is to cutoff playfulness that fuels creativity - the foundations of every Instructables article - by turning the whole site into a full blown serious affair.

EXACTLY well said Cafepollution. I think that would be great both for the Craft feature and the Instructable.

You may need to step out of your group of friends and hang out with some other folk for awhile... there really ARE people that would take this seriously. Think: How about mentally instable people who are already on a bunch of meds already? Know a couple? I've met many. "Gee, my Pharms cost me hundreds a month, and I can just get them from the water treatment plant for FREE? THAT"S WONDERFUL!" They already rely on other people to tell them what to take... visit internet medical sites regularly... hypochondriacs. "These guys sure know what they're doing!"... they don't understand artistic interpretation or satire.

I love the idea, and the point, but you have to take a little bit of responsibility for how you get it across. You're obviously intelligent, think things all the way through!

Simple disclaimer: THIS IS NOT A REAL INSTRUCTABLE. THIS IS MEANT... (state a simple point.)

Oh you're right. I have no doubt that there are people who believe this is a great idea. However, I believe my point was that there is very little chance that someone would get through this week-long process before someone informed them of their error. Even if they did, it wouldn't be long before they were corrected. Perhaps I am giving the world too much credit when I say that. Surely our collective intelligence is high enough to figure this one out. This isn't dangerous enough to warrant censorship, or even a disclaimer.

But... the instructable is so far-fetched that explaining it would be like trying to explain the punch-line of a joke to someone.

The last step mentions 13 different drugs that are in the waste water. The odds are pretty slim that someone would decide that it would be a good idea to consume 13 drugs of unknown dosages by extracting them from WASTE water, and then proceed to follow this instructable.
Even if someone were to believe that this is a legitimately good idea, the odds of someone not telling them that it isn't before they completed the 3-7 day process are also slim.

This instructable is harmless. If this was something that could be done in an hour, or an afternoon... then I might be a LITTLE worried that someone, somewhere, was clueless enough to try this.

Thank you JFrazer1. Well said.

swen_bluetooth (author)bekathwia2010-10-28

This was foolish.

I encourage the young ones to read the stuff found here.
I am trusted, now you are not.

I work at a waste treatment plant but I
Guess I just didn’t get it.... Am I un-cool?

rookie1 (author)bekathwia2010-10-14

I'm disappointed. Don't you have better things to do?

I have followed Craft since its inception. I was one of the first subscribers to the p[roint publication also. Never seen something featured that was a farce. Thats all I am saying...if Craft regulary did this...tongue-in-cheek farces and would make sense. People pretty much follow CRAFT to the letter.

Thats why it was brought to my attention, and I thought I would say something about it. It was portrayed so realistically with the link and all. it did not seem like an art project nor an intellectually related topic one usually finds on Craft.

I , as a American, did not know the word "cheeky" meant joke, farce, or satire, and I know others did not "get" it either.

Again, I look at craft and Instructibles daily. Have never seen a farce, joke, satire before. It has nothing to do with being "original" or not. and for the slange term "cheeky" I just don't know your British slang meanings.

rookie1 (author)bekathwia2010-10-18

I don't suppose you expected quite the negative reaction you got. Clearly, it was in the wrong place. Putting it in Craft did blindside people who were looking for a legitimate posting. I'm always on the lookout for something that will offer relief for some of my health problems. I was disappointed, but I was wrong to ask if you didn't have something better to do. Sorry. I have never liked practical jokes.
Next time, put up a disclaimer and an invitation to those who would like to discuss the topic with you, and add links. This seems, to me, to be the next step. After all, there were quite a few who "got it" in a more positive way.

urbanwoodswalker (author)rookie12010-10-19

I so agree. and Instructibles featured it AGAIN yesterday. Can you believe this nonsense? No disclaimer this time either.

Wrong venue. When I want satire I will read the weekly world news, or the Onion.
I pay $25.00 to be a pro member of Instructibles to learn, not read "cheeky" erroneous information.

mpeters2 (author)2012-02-02

Hiya, I'm really interested in speaking to the person who posted this piece - I'm a radio producer and would like to try and set up an interview with you about it.
Could you please let me know how to get in touch for a chat? My email address is



dh521 (author)2011-12-08

During my travels for work, I frequently visit second and third world nations that do not treat their waste-water and rarely have access to pharmaceuticals. What types of salts could I expect to obtain from their water supplies?

omnibot (author)dh5212011-12-08

Just the cheap regular stuff. Sadly, third world countries often do not understand the need to enrich natures bounty with healthy chemicals.

fcanaan (author)2010-10-12

The last thing we need in here in more people stifling creativity and humor, just in case someone (in this case, only a total idiot) could hurt themselves. Its part of life, if a person doesn't have the common sense to know that, they are in deep trouble on this site anyway. Yes ironsmitter, and urbanwoodswalker, im pretty much talking to you two. Relax guys. Take it with a grain of salt even.

JFrazer1 (author)fcanaan2010-10-12

It's not 'stifling creativity and humor' to put this sort of nonsense up with the regular feature. It destroys the credibility of this site. Context matters, and this is not the proper context for this sort of material. Are you hoping this will turn in to the "The Onion" of craft sites? Notice that The Onion is only this sort of material... if it mixed in serious material with their joke material they would be asking for trouble.

ilpug (author)JFrazer12011-07-24

instructables and websites like it are created, run, and used by smart people. smart people usually have an idea of what "ironic humor" is. this artical does not degrade the site. the only thing i might have done differently had i done this Instructable would have been to write "and by the way this is all BS" at the end. if you dont like the website now, then fine. you can leave. i understand the "be nice policy," but i feel that its not nice for you to rain on everyones parade.

fcanaan (author)JFrazer12010-10-12

Really? I think is a pretty obvious farce, that is LOADED with interesting processes, ideas, and other maker/crafter goodness. Despite the fact the it should be completely obvious to anyone with any sense at all, its still a really good illustration of a few things:
1. how salt is made(ok, collected)
2. The freaking obvious lunacy of flushing drugs down the drain
3. how completely doped to the gills we are as a society
4. Why pollution is so bad
5. and lastly what a bunch of "oh god! dont color outside of the lines" over-reactive crafters there are floating around.

The idea that a little tongue and cheek humor when mixed with a good dose science will degrade a site with the "credibilty"(are you freaking kidding me?) of this site, is laughable.. Go put on your helmet, knee pads, shin guards, cup, supporter, steel toed boots, and pepper spray so you can safely face the outside world, and go make something.

kikkoman7347 (author)fcanaan2010-10-13

Sorry fcanaan, and any others that think this is ok. It isn't/wasn't for me. As someone who uses salt for medicinal & healing purposes (e.g. mouthwash, astringent, etc.), the title "Medicinal All-Salt" completely hooked me and it wasn't until I read ALL the way through the article that I had to question it.

This isn't a "structable" as much as a "look at what is happening."

Great! Maybe they could have embedded links to "look at what is happening" in a better "structable" for a science/environment/awareness experiment for kids.

I do not come to instructables for "shock, awe and hype, farces."

This is a poor example, but what if I ask my intelligent kids to try this and trusting them to perform the steps safely they accomplished it and then without filling me in completely about the drugs involved, my family used this stuff. Or, they made it as a gift not fully understanding the implications of the drugs involved.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.....irresponsible of me NOT to be present or be fully aware of the able/drugs involved. But, hell, the steps are so simple my kids could say "Dad, I found this cool able to make salt and it doesn't involve any dangerous acts. Can we make it?" Knowing and trusting my kids, my canned answer would be "Sure."

Do you really think that the entire instructable population is completely aware of everything dangerous?

Instructables is....was one place I knew I could come for honest community knowledge. Now I have to filter Onion-esque titles and ables?!

Oh, and to your last comment(s), you're gonna chastise someone for wanting/wishing to be safe? As I am retired infantry, all the equipment you listed is exactly what military service members wear when performing many hazardous duties to defend freedom of speech. From your intonation, you don't think highly of anyone who doesn't believe in "safety" and "responsibility" as you do. Are those the comments you would make at someone's eulogy? Or, to an amputee?

In truth, I want to lambaste you for those comments. BUT, I keep looking at the "be nice" comment policy banner and ponder if you noticed it.

However, kudos to Wicken, ironsmiter, technosmechno1, and piperjon below.

fcanaan (author)kikkoman73472010-10-13


Ok, let me peel your onion of BS for you.

1. "What if I ask my intelligent kids": Easy, if your kids are age appropriate for a lot of things on this site, and they told you that "doesnt involve anything dangerous", you kids would be liars as well as unintelligent. The words "Drugs" are littered all over the article. Nor would you be considered intelligent if you just asked your kids to do it without reading it first. Thats what you get with canned answers.

2. "Do you really think that the entire instructable population is..": No, i dont, but if you are going to try something, here it comes again, use some common sense.. It pretty easy to read an article and all its steps, and find where there could be dangers. Using fire? Things get hot? Using chemicals? Use protection? CLEARLY EXTRACTING HARMFUL SUBSTANCES, well, DONT EAT IT.

3. "Oh, and my last comments": No, i would never chastise someone for wanting to be safe. Im not really sure where you got that. People should always be as safe as they can. I just cant connect how the heck you would read _that_ article and think "oh, that sounds perfectly safe, i'll try it!" As for amputees, i know a few, and most of them are machinists. They will be the first to admit that they are missing pieces because they did something stupid, and had they died from it, would want the fact they died being stupid, to be in the eulogy.

Kikko, accept a smidge of personal responsibilty, make sure to learn those intelligent kids of yours real good, and be safe.

kikkoman7347 (author)fcanaan2010-10-14

I am glad that you think that everyone else is at the same level of intelligence, education and a high level of common sense as you. That is an admirable quality.

Too bad it didn't bleed over to courtesy. Calling my kids "liars" and "unintelligent" was an outstanding vector to win me over to your rebuttal. In fact, the simplicity of your comments makes me review "common" sense and wonder what is so common about it.

Clearly every person in the world can understand a gun once they have witnessed its awesome/destructive power. And even still, people with shop (wood, metal, whatever) safety classes tuck securely under their belts can become complacent and lose a finger. Shoot, folks with advanced degrees often make simple "common sense" mistakes and hopefully walk away with no, or minor, injuries. And, lastly, once you earn a valid drivers license, everyone is then prepared for ALL the "common sense" situations that may arise during their lifetime.

WHOA! WAIT! Gun accidents, your friends with missing appendages, teenage car accidents, lab accidents, adults/kids trying instructables not aware of the dangers, etc. Common sense is a learned event. Possibly occurring from stories told to you. Possibly education, if they state disclaimers and dangerous actions. But, IMHO, from life experiences. So the commonality of common sense is a learned event.

So, my lying and unintelligent kids have the same life experiences as you, not to mention me? No, I don't think so. You and I do not even have the same experiences, so there is very little common between our common sense.

*sigh* The point is, the instructable, tongue-in-cheek or not, is nearly so convincing that 1) many adults could, and DID, miss the irony. That filter ALONE coupled with the facts 2) MANY kids have access to instructbales, 3) it was FEATURED as a health able (read that as benefiting health), and 4) common sense ISN"T as common as YOU/WE wish; the potential for distress is too great to be considered a responsible act by anyone with (catch the irony) COMMON SENSE. Instructables was not created to promote Darwin awards (IMO).

You wish to respond, so be it. I won't after this. Consider yourself the winner in this disagreement. I am completely chastened by your greater understanding of the world and my lying kids apologize for ever being misrepresented by their crummy father and their (un)intelligent/thought(less/ful) ways. CYA

fcanaan (author)kikkoman73472010-10-14


Im not trying to win anything. All im saying is keep your mouth shut when it comes to content on this site you dont like. You cant control it, and thank god for that. Your histrionics dont help this already too freaked out world. No instuctibles was not designed to promote the Darwin awards, but from the number of people who thought this was a serious instructable, a lot of people here are on that path anyway. And who are we to stop them?

rookie1 (author)fcanaan2010-10-14

Of course it's a farce. Of course it's obvious. I could care less if you want to color outside the lines, more power to you, but this is not your soap box, it's a place where people who are interested in DIY projects come to read about and share things that interest them.
My, My, you really are impressed with your wit. Jr. High? try stand up. I have health problems and am always looking for relief. I'm just sorry you wasted my time.
Sorry I know there is a nice policy, but facts are facts. I did suggest stand up as a constructive option. Here's another. Start your own blog instead of piggybacking on other peoples work. If I've gone over the top by not being nice, I'll say I'm sorry to the group, but not to fcanaan.

fcanaan (author)rookie12010-10-15

Odd, too have you standing on a soapbox, telling me this isnt a soapbox. What the heck do you think a comments section is? I dont think you have to worry about the nice policy with that response. I cant say I have found any of this not-nice, its just discourse. Im sorry you wasted your time too, actually no, im not. You obviously dont have much else to be doing, like myself, if you are hanging around here commenting as well. Im not funny, im not witty, and Im not trying to impress any of you here. There are real people in a real world I am much more concerned about, you all are just entertainment..

rookie1 (author)fcanaan2010-10-15

I'm done. He's missed the point. I'll just check the names on the projects better. It won't keep me from enjoying this site. We've fed his high opinion of himself and low opinion of anyone else long enough.

JFrazer1 (author)fcanaan2010-10-15

I'm bored of this argument can we start a new one?

fcanaan (author)JFrazer12010-10-15

Here! Here! Excellent idea, onto the next rabble. Thats what i love about the interwebs. In all seriousness, thanks to everyone, its actually really reassuring to see that people care about this site enough to sit around and squabble about it. When people dont care about things, they tend not to stand up to them.. Sorry if any feeling were hurt, thats not what I'm here for. Keep on making, and remember: Measure twice, cut once.

JFrazer1 (author)fcanaan2010-10-15

You did help alleviate some of my boredom. Internet comment crusaders, onward!

kikkoman7347 (author)fcanaan2010-10-14

Couldn't resist.

Protect your freedom of speech and anyone you agree with,eh? But, I've got to "keep your mouth shut?"

You aren't nice.

fcanaan (author)kikkoman73472010-10-14

Im not trying to make you stop speaking, I just dont agree with the things you are saying.. Speak away my soy-sauce named friend. Its also part of my freedom of speech to tell you i wish you would shut your mouth. Its not going to do anything to whine about the content of the articles, its an open site. Thank god its not run by you. Kisses.

Oh, I failed to point out that Step 8 "Final Step" implies finality to the able. Granted there is a Step 9 "Whats in Medicinal Salt?", but I have taken many of those drugs and the irony there is my kids are aware the drugs were helpful to me in recovery/ing from injuries or illness.

Primary Active Ingredients:
azithromycin ~ antibiotic (*any antibiotic I may have used)
carbamezepine ~ anticonvulsant and mood stabilizer (not taken)
fluoxitine ~ antidepressant (should take after this depressing debate)
oflaxacin ~ antibiotic (probably taken)
albuterol ~ bronchodilator (defintely after exposure to harmful gases)
erythromycin-H2O ~ antibiotic (*)
lincomycin ~ antibiotic (*)
sulfamethoxazole ~ antibiotic (*)
caffeine ~ psychoactive stimulant (routinely abuses)
erythromycin hydrate ~ antibiotic (*)
gemfibrozil ~ cholesterol reduction medication (not yet)
diltiazem ~ blood pressure medication (again, not yet)
trimethoprim ~ antibiotic (*)

May Also Contain:
ibuprofen ~ anti-inflammatory and pain relief medication (routinely abuse)
naproxen ~ anti-inflammatory and pain relief medication (used to abuse)
estrone ~ estrogenic hormone (LOL, going through me(a)nopause, I need it)
stigmasterol ~ plant steroid used in the manufacture of syntehtic hormones
tetracycline ~ antibiotic (*)
clarithromycin ~ antibiotic (*)
ranitidine ~ antihistamine (possibly)
codeine ~ opiate (oh, these helped the hurt =-)) double smile
cotinine ~ alkaloid found in tobacco (routinely abused)
cimetidine ~ antihistamine (possibly)
diphenhydramine ~ antihistimine (possibly)
metformin ~ anti-diabetic medication (handle daily for diabetic Mom)
sulfadiazine ~ antibiotic (*)
ciproflaxin ~ antibiotic (taken and administered many times)

Hell, as far as I am aware they think this medicinal all-salt could be a GOOD thing for what all's ailed me past, present and future. LOL

fcanaan (author)kikkoman73472010-10-14

I thought you were done posting about this, Kikko. Since those chemicals are coming from the already available water, you are already consuming them. I really doubt the amount of each of those drugs in the All-salt is all that more dangerous than drinking water from one of the tens of thousands of polluted private wells in the country. Have you ever stopped to think that your super intelligent children could blow themselves up, electrocute themselves, or bleed out in a much shorter time period with MANY of the other how-to's on this site. Anyway, enjoy your hissy fit, I'm going to go work on my jacob's ladder while its plugged in.

JFrazer1 (author)fcanaan2010-10-13

All must bow before the all importance of irony, right? People like you are the reason everyone hates hipsters now. Are you a member of Westboro Baptist church? You seem to share their inability to comprehend appropriate social context. I'll put it this way. I agree with your points 2, 3, and 4. I agree with freedom of speech and the right to protest. I love this site, and I love freedom of speech. But I hate to see damage being done to something I love. I hate to see the thing I love being hurt. And that's what you, splnlss, bekathwia, and Westboro Baptist Church are doing. Hurting the things I love. :) Anyway take care man and remember you don't have to ridicule people during a debate.

fcanaan (author)JFrazer12010-10-13

Wow Jfrazer, you really got the point of my message. Good work.

JFrazer1 (author)fcanaan2010-10-13

Wow, irony again. Sarcasm: the last refuge of a rationale lacking merit.

The whole point you're trying to make is this is obvious satire. We know. That isn't the problem. The problem is we don't care to see it here. I'd love this article if it was on,, or a similar site. Go start a parody site of instructables if you wish.

And "go put on your helmet, knee pads, shin guards, cup, supporter, steel toed boots, and pepper spray so you can safely face the outside world, and go make something." plus "I'm not really sure where you got that." C'mon man, that was blatant mockery.

You seem like a smart guy. I'm sure if you really put some thought in to it you can see the trouble that arises from posting this silliness in the guise of serious fare. Please, I'm begging you, don't contribute to degrading this site anymore. I can't force you to think it through but I'm just asking you. You sound young and proud. That's cool.

Please learn to have a civil discourse though. Comments like, "peel your onion of BS" and the mockery... you're inability to take what others say without grossly oversimplifying and misinterpreting it, than spitting it back in a distorted caricature of the original...


you don't address the original issues raised. you just try to rile people up. stop trolling. Do you realize how pretentious you are seeming?

Anyway peace bro, i'm sure you're a cool guy. i'm here for yah if you need someone to talk to about anything. take care man.

fcanaan (author)JFrazer12010-10-13

I really think that you are over estimating the potency of the comments on a satirical how to on extracting drugs on from the local waste water plant. Lets not get big heads here, these letters on the screen that you or i type arent really even worth the physical effort of using our fingers, let alone for anyone else to read or care about.

All im saying is this is an open submission site, and people shouldn't try to moderate it just because they think something is "too dangerous". Potato cannons, jacobs ladders, LED dazzlers, whatever, are all "too dangerous" for many people who read this site as well. They are also great illustrations of the same "processes, and ideas" i referred to in my first post. Its _much_ easier to electrocute your self, or blow your finger off or eye out with _MOST_ of the instructables on this site, than it would be to execute the salt instructable in question.

Young and proud? Damn straight. However something tells me you aren't all that much older than I, and have seem to completely lost your ability to look at simple things as they are, with out mixing in a heavy dose of "You'll poke your eye out" crankiness. Lighten up, let silly things go by as silly things, you dont have to take the jam out of everyone's doughnut.

All in all, have a good one as well. Thanks for the offer, but, I think i'll hold off with the talking till I need to hit you up for some dough to cover my med-stop bills I incurred installing playing cards in my bmx's forks.

JFrazer1 (author)fcanaan2010-10-14

Oh man I completely agree with you on the first paragraph. If I wasn't so bored and didn't have a bit of insomnia at the moment I wouldn't still be discussing this. Plus I'm suffering from an extreme lack of a life as I'm awaiting a medical retirement right now. Besides even if this were the life or death of this site there are other 'how-to' and 'craft' sites out there, or you or I could make one.

I agree on you second paragraph as well.

Third paragraph: Yeah, I figured I might even be younger than you. Ha! I wish you knew me! I'm the least risk adverse person you'll meet. Drinking, smoking, playing with fire, riding too fast down trails too difficult for me, that's my favorite.

I'd like to say my issue wasn't danger though. It was the pushing irony/satire into our life (shove it down my throat to use hyperbole) that I found distasteful. It's the same reason evangelicals bother me when they pop in to some of the science sites I read. Or the Jehova's witnesses coming to my door. It's fine with me, they can believe and do what they want, but I don't really need the 'scripture' (irony in this case) as much they think I do. Or like my comment about Westboro Baptist Church. They can believe and do what they like, but do they really have to protest at funerals?

I come to this site because basically any feature I chose at random (dangerous or not) I could do and it performed as advertised. Than I opened this up and I was like, "What is this nonsense?". I still think it is inappropriate for this site at least. Like I said, this is would be something I'm delighted to read on,, or Instructables isn't a site I go to for 'fake' though.

I also have enough trouble convincing people of the legitimacy of stuff like this (the establishment types that think only certified authorized accredited licensed professional experts should be allowed to make or tell how to make. The real cranky ones) without handing the scoffers something like this on a platter.

cafepollution (author)JFrazer12010-10-15

Perhaps you idealized Instructables and forgot that it's an open social forum, where you will like something and dislike another, sometime feel strongly. But as an open social forum, regardless of anyone's ideals about what it should be or was, it's function is to host all that our society can create - stuff that surprises us - and nothing shuts it down faster then turning on the screws and hasty laying down rules for to the benefit of bruised ego and temporary fear..

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