Introduction: Making a Three Stone Diamond Engagement Ring.

So, you've met the girl of your dreams, and now you want to give her a beautiful ring as a lasting symbol of your love.

Trouble is, you can't afford a fancy designer ring, and the ones you can afford are mass produced, studded with conflict diamonds, and polished in a sweatshop for your consumer pleasure. None of which attributes are terribly appropriate for lasting symbols of affection. Probably right up there with a flaming bag of poo.

So what's a young rogue to do? When in doubt grab a book, preferably one on wax jewelry making.. you'll need it.

This instructable will show you how to make a unique, but classic, three stone diamond and garnet ring using the "lost wax" process, and 100% conflict free stones.

Now, I'm not a jeweler, far from it, I'm actually a filmmaker (film reel http://www.abbeygateway.co.uk ), so if I can do this, anyone should be able to.

I'll be showing you the steps I took, the books I referenced, and all the tools I bought/used. I'm not claiming that I'm showing the 'correct' way to do this just the way I did it.

Please forgive the general crappyness of the photos, I own the world's suckiest point and click camera... go figure.

Step 1: Supplies

First up, this is not going to be cheap. It will cost you the same, or more than, the cost of buying a similar ring in a shop. But, your ring will be unique, and special. And, as an added bonus, if you factor the cost of equipment into the cost of the ring, she gets a sparkly ring and you get a box of wicked tools. Win, win (so long as she says "Yes!").

So, I know the thing most of you want to know is "How much does a project like this cost from scratch to finish?" Well if I said the average wage of an American is $30,000 then this project cost less than a months wage.

I make significantly less than average so it was a good deal more than a months wage for me... I know, I know, you can hear someone playing the world's smallest violin.

Any ways, supplies. Here's a list of the tools I bought. You probably don't need all of this stuff, but I didn't really feel like going half-arsed on this one, so I bought the right tools for the job.

The two suppliers I used were http://www.contenti.com and http://www.fdjtool.com

Reference Books:
Modeling in Wax for Jewelry and Sculpture, Lawrence Kallenberg
Jewelry Wax Modeling, Adolfo Mattiello

Equipment:
Bench:
Work bench (made from some free wood from ikea),
Bench Pin
Bench Vise

Magnifying Visor

Measuring and Marking:
Carbide scriber
Degree Gauge
3" Scribing Dividers
Vernier Callipers
Ruler
Ring mandrel

Sawing:
Jewlers saw frame
Saw blades 1/0, 2/0, 3/0
Fine spiral saw blades

Filing:
Wax needle file set
Standard needle file set
Large flat wax file
Double ended half circular wax file
Fine round needle file

Drilling/cutting:
Spiral Drill or Pin Vise
Drill bits, 0.8mm, 1mm, 1.3mm, 1.7mm
Fine wax detaliers
Exacto knife

Wax shaping:
Wax carving tools
Alcohol Lamp and denatured alcohol as fuel.
Cordless wax pen
Ring tube sizer

Flex shaft:
Flexshaft motor
#30 Handpiece
Wax burs
Wax detail burs
Wolf Tools wax trimmer
Cylinder bur 11.1mm
Jiffy Jig

Wax:
Wax wire assortment
Wax tablet assortment
Wax ring tube assortment

Step 2: Diamonds

Diamonds are a girl's best friend... they are also De Beers best source of income.
The way in which De Beers controls the pricing of diamonds is frankly absurd, and add to that the exploitative manner in which some diamonds are mined and you're left wondering why the hell anyone wants a diamond in the first place. The answer, of course, is that they are simply amazing to look at.

So, how do you get real diamonds without the ludicrous cost, and ethical ambiguity?

You should start by giving Apollo Diamonds a call. They make them significantly cheaper than nature does.

I like to think Apollo do it through some sort of giant Rube Goldberg'esque machine in a wooden shed, but I've been reliably informed that it is slightly more scientific than that, involving big metal machines and, most likely, magic. You can read more about the process they use in this article.

The diamonds Apollo create are identical in all respects to the ones formed naturally. Same, hardness, same chemical composition, same refractive index, everything. They are not substitutes like Cubic Zirconia or Mossanite, they are real diamonds, without the nasty mining process.

Apollo create white diamonds, I got two 0.21ct VS2 F diamonds, 4.5mm x 3mm emerald cut from them.

The process they use is slow, and creating large diamonds is tricky and expensive, so most of the created diamonds they offer are less than 0.5ct. Which suited me fine as I only wanted two side stones. Apollo have limited inventory, but do sell loose stones to the public.

Step 3: Gemstones

Ideally I wanted the center stone to be a Paraíba Tourmaline (an extremely beautiful, and rare, turquoise/teal colored gemstone which is often more expensive than diamond due to the fact that there is only one 'true' source for them in Paraíba Brazil). Needless to say I can't afford such a natural stone.

But, that's where mankind steps in to save the day again. Chatham Gemstones create all manner of gemstones in their labs, and sell loose stones to authorized dealers (or any one with a credit account).
After talking with a dealer she found me an experimental lab created garnet (which they no longer produce) which has the same color as the Paraíba Tourmaline and the hardness of a garnet (7.5) making it ideal for setting in a ring.

I bought a 1.3ct VS Pariba Tourmaline colored garnet, 7x5mm emerald cut from them.

Step 4: Design

One of the most crucial steps in this process is laying out an accurate design before you even start carving the wax ring.

I used illustrator to layout my design, but a good old fashioned pencil and paper will suffice.
Be sure to draw your designs to scale and with accuracy.

Before I started the design I did a bit of research on typical ring dimensions and designs.

Try not to make wall sections thinner than 1.3mm for casting.
Bear in mind the finished weight of the ring, don't make it too thick or it will cost a fortune to cast. Also, plan out the areas you are hollowing out (to lighten the weight) in your design, don't leave them as an after thought.

Use a typical referenced orthogonal view (front, top, side) to work out all dimensions of your ring.
Use the size of your girlfriends finger as the starting reference for the drawing and the sizes of your stones as the scaling for the prongs and seats.

Step 5: Making a Ring Blank

The easiest way to make a ring blank (the starting point for carving your ring) is to use a wax ring tube. Matt Wax make ring tubes in three different wax hardnesses:

Blue - Soft, flexible
Red/Purple - Medium, flexible.
Green - Hard, strong.

I used a 1 1/8" diameter flat top purple ring tube.

Referencing your drawing, use the pair of scribers to draw a line around the whole of the tube measuring 1mm wider than the maximum width of your ring (the 1mm extra is a safety margin for filing and sanding.)

Using the jewlers saw and a fine spiral saw blade cut your rough blank free from the tube.

Cut 0.5mm further out from the scribed line, keeping the line on the inside of the blank (this gives you a margin to file off the worst of the saw marks). Don't try and cut straight through the tube all in one go, instead work your way around the tube paying careful attention to the location of the scribed line.

An easy way to cut a truly square ring blank is to use a mitre box and saw.

Once you've cut your blank free, use the larger flat file to remove the worst of the saw marks.
Then use the ring sizer to scrape the inside hole to the desired finger size. Keep the hole about 1mm smaller than the finished size to allow for shaping and sanding.

Step 6: Blocking the Design

Using the flat wax file, and some sandpaper (600 grit) smooth the cut surface of the blank.

Referencing your drawing, use the scribes and the edge of the flat top to mark 1mm higher than the tallest part of your ring all the way around.

Use the inside of the finger hole as a guide to scribe 1mm wider than the maximum width of the ring shank on both faces of the blank.

Scribe out the rest of the rings dimensions using the ruler and carbide scribe on both faces.

To get symmetry on the top 'arc' of the ring, from the shank to the head, use a cardboard (note card) template and simply reverse it for the opposite side.

Rub talcum powder into the scribed lines to make them visible.
Don't scribe your lines too deep, or they may be hard to polish out later.

The blank should now resemble the photo below.

Alternatively you can use one of Matt Waxes ring templates to block out your design

Step 7: Rough Cutting the Ring.

Set up the flex shaft,clamp, trimmer and bur as in the photo.

Use the bur to shape the blank to the proportions of the ring you scribed.
Run the flex shaft fairly fast to remove larger sections of wax, and reduce the speed as you move closer to your lines.

Leave the scribed lines inside of the cut to allow you to file accurately up to them.
Don't try to get to the 'finished' shape using just the trimmer, what you are doing in this step is getting the ring blank to a point at which you can refine it with files and sandpaper.

Step 8: Refining the Band

Find the midpoint of your shaped ring using a ruler and the dividing scribes.
Mark the center point all the way around the band, and mark the cross center point of the flat top.

Using the center lines and your drawing as a reference, block out the areas for the stone seats and the width of the final ring shank.

Use the saw with a 3/0 blade to cut lines to define the areas for the stone seats.

Use a flat escapement needle file to cut down the stone seats to 0.5mm bigger than their final heights and widths.

Step 9: Hollowing the Seats.

Using your stones as a guide, scribe the size of the stones' seat holes into the top of the blocked out platforms on the ring. You can use the Matt Wax templates to help this process.

The stone should sit in the seat to the depth of the last facet before the girdle of the stone. This will allow it to have a solid base with good light transmission.

Use the pin vise to drill a center hole through the seat, and use a sharp flat wax working tool or graver to cut the square hole. At this point you can either cut all the way through the ring, or cut the seats to a depth of 1.5mm (as the following step will open them all the way through).

Use a sharp wax working tool or graver to slightly bevel the edges of the seat holes.
Keep the walls of the seats 1.2mm thick or more. Use the degree gauge to measure the wall thickness.

Step 10: Hollowing the Ring

The object of this process is to lighten the weight of the ring by cutting a channel underneath the stone seats thus hollowing down the thickness of the top of the ring.
It is one of the hardest parts of this project so take your time.

You should aim to thin the side walls to no less than 1.2mm, and the top depth to no less than 2mm.

Turn the ring so that the top of the seats face downwards and using the scribes trace a 1.2mm wall around the inside of the ring underneath them.

Use the flexshaft with the detailer's burs to carefully cut the channel between the scribed lines.
Tidy the channel using sharp edged shaped and curved wax working tools.

Use the degree gauge to measure the thickness of the walls, and hold the piece up to the light to check for uniform thickness (the lighter the areas the thinner the wax).

Feather the channel out to the mid point of the ring band to give a smooth transition into the rest of the band.

Step 11: Sand and Shape.

Use 600 and 1200 grit wet dry sandpaper to shape the ring to the correct dimensions, bevel the shank edges, and to remove all of the file marks from the surface.

Step 12: Cutting the Balconies.

The purpose of cutting 'balconies' into the stone seats is to increase the light transmission through the ring (and stone), to add elegance, and again to lighten the weight of the ring.

This step is very hard to do, so take your time.

Use the scribe to mark the location of the balconies on the ring seats.
The areas above and below the balcony windows should not be thinner than about 1.5mm - 2mm.

Drill a center hole from both sides of the ring for each balcony window. Do not drill straight through, it is too easy to drill out in the wrong place.

Thread your saw blade (3/0) through the two center holes of one balcony. Rest the ring in your left hand and your fingers on the bench pin. Using a just a small section of the saw's length (about 1/4") rock the saw so as to cut only the window closest to you, leaving the hole on the reverse of the ring uncut. Think of the cutting motion as a pivoting one, where only the top of the saw moves around cutting the window (along the X, Z axis) and the base remains fixed in the drill hole on the reverse side. Cut inside of your scribed lines, then remove the saw and blade, and finish the window using a sharp wax working tool or graver.

Turn the ring over and repeat the cutting process for the window opposite to the one you just finished.

Continue like this until you have cut all six windows for your balconies.

Step 13: Cutting the Prong Channels.

Use the fine circular needle file to cut the channels for the prongs to sit in.

Depending on the thickness of the wax wire you are using for the prongs use the appropriate section of the file to cut the channels.

For the center stone seat, it is a good idea to flatten off the square edges (to create a octagonal oblong) before attempting to cut the channels for the prongs. This will stop the file slipping and make it easier to locate the channels properly.

Step 14: Polishing the Wax Ring.

In order to get a good cast from wax, you need to polish away all tool marks and leave the ring with a shiny surface.

Start by using 600 grit sandpaper to remove any remaining file marks or scribed lines.

Use 1200 grit sandpaper to smooth the paper marks away, and create a satin finish on the ring.

Finally use a nylon stocking (pantyhose.. whatever) to polish the ring and remove any last imperfections and bring out a shine on the surface. To polish the insides of the windows and stone seats I cut a thin ribbon of stocking and attached on end to my bench pin, I then threaded the other end through the holes in the ring and rubbed the ring along the threaded ribbon.

You can also use a product called wax gloss to slightly melt the wax surface and remove imperfections. Use it sparingly and polish with nylon stocking. Wash the ring in water after using wax gloss so as not to soften the wax further.

Alternatively, if you have mad wax working skills you can use an open flame to 'shine' (melt) the surface of the ring. It is very easy to melt and ruin a piece of work using the open flame method and I wouldn't advise it.

Step 15: Adding the Prongs

Once you have polished your ring, add the prongs.

I used blue and green wax wire for the prongs.
Make them a little thicker than you anticipate as their size will be reduced in the tumbling and finishing stage of the casting process. Also cut them long (1mm - 1.5 mm) longer than needed, it is easy to file them down once cast in metal, but adding more height to them is a little trickier.

For the smaller stones prongs I use 16 gauge wire, and the larger I used 14 gauge wire.

To attach the prongs use a toothpick coated with a small amount of cyanoacrylate (super glue) to line the channels with the glue. Then position the prong in place and hold until it sets.

Don't use too much glue as it will spill out of the channel and you will have to clean it off, and that is a real pain.

To hold the prong in position permanently you need to 'spot weld' it.

Do this by twisting a fine copper wire (a single thread from an standard electrical cable will do) around the nib of the cordless wax pen.Bend the twisted wire at a right angle, so that the deepest it can penetrate is less than the thickness of the stone seats' wall and the prong attached to it.

Use the wax pen to heat the wire and weld the prongs in place by pushing the wire through the inside wall of the stone seat through into the prongs.

Step 16: Lost Wax Casting Process

O.k, so while I might have the nerve to try and carve a wax ring, I don't have the skills or resources to cast metal.

So, I did a little looking around and found a local trade Jeweler/Supplier/Instructor who could do the tricky casting, finishing and stone setting for me.

It cost me a little bit of a premium to have someone do all these steps, but it is probably worth it.
I used The Jewelers Warehouse in Silver Spring, MD.

I recommend taking a look at this great instructable on the lost wax casting process, which shows the process in detail.

Or'' take a look at this video:



Briefly the casting process happens as follows:

The ring is prepared for investing. Investing simply means to surround the wax with a hard substance, in which it will leave a hollow behind when melted. This then becomes the mold for casting the metal ring.

Before investing the ring a wax sprue, and button, is added to it.
The sprue is a thick wax wire which is attached to the base of the ring band, which will form the pipe for the metal to be poured into. The button is a wider piece of wax on the opposite end of the sprue which will form the basin to pour the molten metal in.

The button (with sprue and ring attached) is placed on a rubber diaphragm base, and a flask is attached to the base.

Investing media is mixed as a liquid and poured into the flask around the ring.

The flask is then placed on a vacuum table and the bubbles forced out of the investment media, as it is left to set.

Once the investment is set the rubber base is removed, and the flask is placed upside down in a burn out oven. This burns/melts out the wax from the investment. The wax ring is 'lost' during this process, leaving only a perfect hollow of itself in the investment, hence the name "lost wax casting".

The investment is then heated in the oven to a specific temperature. When it is hot enough it is placed in a centrifuge powered by a large spring. The metal of choice is then melted in a crucible next to the investment and the centrifuge released, pushing the liquid metal into all the hollows of the investment mold. Sometimes the centrifuge is skipped and the molten metal is poured into the mold on a vacuum table instead.

Once the metal has cooled very briefly the still hot investment is quenched in water causing it to fracture away from the metal. The remaining investment is either broken away using brushing, concussion/vibration, or dissolved away using chemicals. After which you are left with a metal cast of the original wax ring.

Step 17: Polishing/finishing Process

There are a number of steps to finish a white gold ring.

The first is to clean up any surface or casting imperfections. This is usually done manually using grit paper, sanding wheels, buffs and rough buffing compounds.

See this video for a basic walk through of the main techniques:


These days many jewelers also use a tumbling process to burnish the gold to make it highly reflective.
The process of burnishing basically requires a harder metal to be rubbed against a softer one to flatten/burnish the surface imperfections and create a shine. Tumblers use pellets or tiny rods of hard metals loose inside to burnish the gold jewelry, because of this, tumbling is often used to burnish areas not easily reachable with traditional methods. However the process is fairly aggressive so is not suitable for more delicate works.

14K and 18K white gold contain high levels of gold which is yellow (between 50%-80%). In order to keep the gold 'white' 14K and 18K white gold jewelry is often Rhodium plated. This increases the hardness of the surface and also masks the yellow gold color.

So, after basic finishing and tumbling, the ring was Rhodium plated and then buffed to a high shine.

Step 18: Setting the Stones.

Stone setting is an art form, there are numerous books devoted solely to the process, but the basics are as follows.

First the prongs of the setting are cut down to the correct length, usually 0.5mm - 1mm higher than the desired height of the set stone (depending on the stone's size).

Then v-shaped grooves are cut on the insides of the prongs, using a bur, at the height at which the girdle of the stone should sit in the seat.

The stones are then pushed into the seat and 'clip' into the grooves. The base of the stone should rest firmly in the hole in the seat, and the girdle should rest in the grooves.

The setter then uses a burnisher/pusher or modified graver to push the top of the prong over the stone.

He then shapes the top of the pushed over prong (usually to a round shape) using a bur or file, and polishes them.

See here or here for more detailed information on prong setting.

Step 19: The Finished Ring.

The finished ring.

Cast in white gold and set with the stones.

Step 20: .... the Outcome.

Taking a hot air balloon ride tomorrow morning.... so chances are she'll either say yes, or throw me from the basket.

I'll let you know afterward... wish me luck!!


EDIT:

She said yes!!
(Well actually she kind of cried and nodded.... but the effect was the same).


Yay!

Comments

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LarryD61 made it!(author)2017-04-19

This is a GREAT learning instructable! I need more practice too make this Ring. Thank you,
Larry Dallas?

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Roise+Rayes made it!(author)2016-10-10

Three stone is nice, but to me, <a
href="http://mytwogether.com/collection/gold-type/14k-white.html">two
stone diamond ring</a> is much better looking for me.

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awenthomas6 made it!(author)2016-02-23

Great read about making a three stone engagement ring.Very inspiring and interesting post. I will definitely try it.

http://www.diamondwarehouseusa.com/3-stone-rings.html

Thanks!!

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Sure+Hacksalot made it!(author)2014-12-10

Thank you for this Instructable, it was a big inspiration for me to go and make MY fiance's ring! I ended up focusing on the other side of things by doing my own casting. I 3D printed my ring (since I did poorly at hand carving; makes me admire your dedication), converted to wax, and then cast. All your tips and suggestions were keys helping in the final success. You can see mine here:

https://www.instructables.com/id/Casting-Rings-From-Startup-to-Finish/

And she said yes too!

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edwatkins made it!(author)2015-12-20

Nice work! I've been looking into 3D printing jewellry recently. Looks like the future to me!

Congrats on your ring, (and engagement)!

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Ctina1234 made it!(author)2015-04-13

This is a great tutorial but I'm a little stuck on attaching the wax prongs. Do you have any more images, I'm confused where I put the glue and which areas I weld? Is there a reason why some are green and some are blue? Help please

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sparecrow made it!(author)2015-03-23

Great job man. Happy she said yes. I made my own ring for myself years ago, just a basic yellow 14k band. Gave it to her in the beginning with a chain and said don't give it back unless you want out or marriage. The marriage vow is only as good as the man who makes it, and this man makes a ring as a symbol of his promise.

Obviously I was a bit more romantic and flowery than that, but she cried and nodded too. Gonna ask her to marry in a few days. Wish me luck.

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MooMeat42 made it!(author)2014-11-16

:3 awww

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stefaniemisztal made it!(author)2009-05-13

It's far and away the most beautiful ring I've ever seen (and in my favorite color no less, you immensely considerate rogue, you). I don't think I've ever been so happy in my entire life. The most talented, thoughtful, wonderful person in the world wants to spend forever with little ole me...it's so amazing and surreal, it takes my breath away--and ability to hold tears back--whenever I think about it. It's a feeling beyond words. Guys, you'd all have a winner with this plan...although I feel like the biggest winner of all, because I have my Ed. ;) ~"She said yes!!"

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john.noybn made it!(author)2014-10-29

I cant believe after all this time, your comment is hidden down in here and no one, that i can tell, has responded to it!! I hope things are still going wonderfully for you guys, Congratulations on your marriage, sounds like you guys found the One in eachother :) Nothing beats that :). My wife and I have been together for 21 years now, next year will be our 20th wedding anniversary, and Ive asked her to marry me again :) She said yes ;) Now im wondering if i should get her another ring... your guy here might have gotten me in over my head LOL.

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stefaniemisztal made it!(author)2014-10-30

Thank you so much! We're going on 5 years now and hope to hit 20 and many more in the future! Congratulations to you too! So lovely to hear from you and best wishes for your future together. With or without a ring, I'm sure it won't make a lick of difference to her :).

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I3uckwheat made it!(author)2009-06-30

i once heard of some one doing this and spent alot of money on the dimond and got turned down lol

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john.noybn made it!(author)2014-10-29

I never understood that.. if you dont know whats in eachothers hearts by the time you ask... maybe you shouldnt be asking hehe. I knew she was the one from almost the first moment, but it took her a little longer to be sure, but by the time i actually got down on one knee, i already knew she would say yes... I'd already made my intentions clear long before we got to that point, and she had made hers clear to me as well... I think thats the way to go considering we are getting married again in June...on our 20th wedding anniversary ;) Knew what she would say this time too ::grin:: (thank God i didnt have to buy another ring.... or do i? Man, NOW ive got something to worry about hehe)

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AndrewCampbell made it!(author)2013-12-30

A very detailed instructable, most importantly I'm glad the outcome was a positive one as you went to so much effort with the engagement ring, that deserved a yes in its own right. What did she say once you explained this process to her ? I bet she was so overjoyed?!

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jgwalkup made it!(author)2013-01-15

This is very informative and encouraging! I am planning on proposing soon, and I have been set on making the ring myself for some time now. When you took your ring to be cast, did you provide the raw materials (the gold)? Or did the jeweler take care of that?

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Bown86 made it!(author)2012-10-05

I love this Instructable! It is clear and concise and states the materials and instructions expertly!! Thank you for such a great Instructable! and for the encouragement from one beginner to another!!!

With the help of this tutorial myself and a friend made a beautiful ring that turned out spectacularly and with a much lower cost that at a store. It was made with diamonds that another friend brought home from the diamond mines in northern Canada (the workers and their family members are given a discounted price as employees, score!! :)).

I can't help but add that the comments made by MDEBLASI1 made me very sad that he is a part of our Instructable community, (A community that is meant to help and encourage others to think outside the box and push yourself to do things that you otherwise would not have thought possible), and only made me to want to do this more just to prove him wrong!! Which we did!! 

Excellent job, and thank you for teaching others to believe in themselves and try things that they didn't think possible!

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edwatkins made it!(author)2012-10-05

Glad this instructable was of some use to you, and congrats on your rings!

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Bown86 made it!(author)2012-10-05

I must also add that I was given Illustrator as a gift at work, we were all given some sort of dumbed down version of it to try and I love it!! It really is awesome for this type of work.

It's very very very simple to use and very straight forward and I've started using it for making designs for stained glass rather than drawing it on paper. and I suggest everyone give it a try, it's awesome!!! It's so simple!

I used to use Corel Draw and Cad, and still do sometimes, but Illustrator is my go-to now because of it's simple layout and easy details. I used these programs due to their user friendly aspects and since i am not a Cad Tech or Engineer I needed something simple to use that didn't require training or lots of practice.

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crd2091 made it!(author)2012-09-25

NIce

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cereeal made it!(author)2012-06-27

You need to write an Instructable just on how to create that good of a design in Illustrator!!! I assume you've had a length of training and practice, but any chance there was a quality tutorial or book that would help getting to that point?

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blahblahblksheep made it!(author)2012-01-21

This is really impressive. The finished product is absolutely stunning. Actually, stunning doesn't cut it. I honestly can't think of a word suitable enough to express how beautiful I think this ring is. Your wife to be is one lucky girl.!! Congratulations on everything!!

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mdeblasi1 made it!(author)2010-03-14

There is one important thing that you did not include in your parts and materials list. . . The years of experience it takes to become a proficient bench jeweler / wax carver. 
I have access to a complete jewelry studio and have been metal smithing since 2001 and I still wouldn't trust myself to carve accurate seats for faceted stones So yes, I love your work and was deeply impressed by your instructable, but shouldn't it have been posted on Ganoksin Orchid?

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lcasta%C3%B1o made it!(author)2011-11-02

I find your comment rather pompous. Doesn't this prove you don't need to be a metal smith since 2001 to do this? I also find it interesting that this guy put his whole heart into this having no previous experience AND took the time to share with us. That's what this website is about. You should make YOUR own instructable, since you have so much experience and appear not to have made one yet. Then, you could add what you want on the materials list.

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mdeblasi1 made it!(author)2011-11-02

Modeling in Wax for Jewelry and Sculpture, Lawrence Kallenberg (Amazon used) $45.00
Jewelry Wax Modeling, Adolfo Mattiello (Amazon used $73.00)
     Does your library carry these books? Mine doesn't.
Equipment: (It looks like he may have gotten his supplies from Contenti –I priced RioGrande, basically the Sears of Jeweler's supplies.)
Bench: (The cheapest) $600
Work bench (made from some free wood from ikea), $0.00
Bench Pin $5.00
Bench Vise $250.00
Magnifying Visor $25.00
Carbide scriber $10.00
Degree Gauge $10.00
3" Scribing Dividers (the cheapest) $15.00
Vernier Callipers $33.00
Ruler $8.00
Ring mandrel $25.00
Jewlers saw frame (the cheapest) $10.50
Saw blades 1/0, 2/0, 3/0 (Approximately $4.00 for a 12 pack * 3=) $12.00
Fine spiral saw blades $4.50
Wax needle file set $20.00
Standard needle file set (average cheapest $50.00)
Large flat wax file $15.00
Double ended half circular wax file $35.00
Fine round needle file $15.00
Spiral Drill or Pin Vise $10.00
Drill bits, 0.8mm, 1mm, 1.3mm, 1.7mm (the cheapest are sold in 10 packs for $10.00) $40.00
Fine wax detaliers $10.00
Exacto knife (you've already got one of these— I'm going to give it to you) $0.00
I suggest $45.00 in wax.
Wax carving tools (the cheapest) $20.00
Alcohol Lamp and denatured alcohol as fuel. $8.00, let's just agree you have the fuel
Cordless wax pen (from Contenti, with replacement tips) $25.00

He used a CAD program for the design. Let's not include the $2000.00 that costs? And pretend you know how to hand draft.
Ring tube sizer $25.00
Flex shaft system entire, cheapest: $200 includes all components below
Flex shaft:
Flexshaft motor #30
Handpiece

Wax burs (the cheapest) $20.00
Wax detail burs (not sure what he wants here, lets throw in $10.00 to be conservative)
Wolf Tools wax trimmer $40.00
Cylinder bur 11.1mm (The cheapest) $10.00
Jiffy Jig (Contenti) $12.00
Wax: approxomately $45.00
Wax wire assortment Wax tablet assortment Wax ring tube assortment

Now we cast the ring—Let's send that out, for $100.00 rather then buy an oxy acetlyine rig including the gas, a crucible, casting investment, a casting form and a place to set all this up

It's time to polish the ring, I don't see that on his parts list, but in the photograph, there are still price tags on his polishers, from 7-15 dollars per. There are 14 tools in that holder lets say $140.00
There are also 3 setting burnishers to the side, The set seems to cost $70.00 Not listed stone setting pliers 20.00
Stone setting burrs for flex shaft $20.00
Polishing compound, three standard grades $15.00

We're not going to tally the cost of the metal, the stone, and the hours worked, because, That's the gift, right? So where are we?

$2091.00
Just about what it would cost you to set up a nice amateur jeweler's studio. Which is exactly what I said he had at the out set. Now that you are about 10 months late to the party Icasta, Thanks for bringing your troll.

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edwatkins made it!(author)2011-11-02

First, If you are going post prices to prove a point don't overestimate them for effect.

Second, stop and think for awhile why I didn't post the prices of things on this instructable, which was really made to document for my wife how her ring was made....perhaps it was because leaving the price tag on a gift is the height of bad manners.

But since you went ahead and priced everything anyway, let me correct you, as I kept detailed notes on this:
The tools and wax cost $450 total.
I paid a trade Jeweller $110 to cast and polish the ring, and set the stones.
So, no Idea how you ended you with $2k.

The main cost of this ring was the gold and diamonds, and there's no way I'm telling you what they cost.

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mdeblasi1 made it!(author)2011-11-04

I don't know what the problem is with this instructable. I began by saying that in my experience, this could not possibly be done by a beginner, simply because of the cost of the tools involved.
No one believed me, People on your instructible were rude to me for mentioning it----rude months and months after I made the point!
I use these tools every day, I know where they come from and I know what they cost,
I also know what diamonds and gold costs and I know what a persons time is worth---like I said, that was the "gift." But the tools are an investment. A huge investment. Why in the world was that so impolitic to point out?

Finally, I think my estimate to cast was $100.  You paid $25 more than that for the shop to set and polished the stone --- great! congradulations!
How in the name of god is it any skin off any one's nose to suggest that aside from that, you did work, not magic; and work costs money.

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poonone made it!(author)2012-01-18

So my "be nice" comment is… I just bought everything on his list for $550 but upgraded quite a few things since I may want them in the future. I am an artistic guy and believe I will have quite nice results. Incase anyone is wondering the true cost of these tools.

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poonone made it!(author)2012-01-18

Oh, and warning! Noob mistake, you don't need the #30 head that he suggested in the parts list since it comes with the flexshaft… Gotta return that one.

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Jistmi made it!(author)2011-12-23

And ya ended with troll wow!!

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edwatkins made it!(author)2011-11-04

I can't speak for those that offended you, but it seems they took umbrage at your implication that a beginner could not do this, and that it would cost a fortune to do so.

I am a beginner, I did this, it did not cost me a fortune.
Now, can we let sleeping dogs lie?

If I could delete this whole thread I would do so, perhaps you would be so kind?

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Broom made it!(author)2010-03-14

Um, I think his work made it pretty clear that those years of experience aren't absolutely necessary. After all, this isn't "ExpertsImproveTheirSkills.com"!

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mdeblasi1 made it!(author)2010-03-14

You may persist in believing so.  I tend to think otherwise.

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Broom made it!(author)2010-03-14

Ah, you're so cute when you act all serious. Who's a good little jeweler? You are! I could just eat you up!

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mdeblasi1 made it!(author)2010-03-15

I beg your pardon?

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Broom made it!(author)2010-03-15

Don't beg! You're cute enough as it is!

Make that disapproving face again... please?

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spasysheep made it!(author)2010-09-09

LOLWUT?

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Funkmonk made it!(author)2010-03-18

lmao @ mdeblasi1

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komecake made it!(author)2010-03-14

  I think the point is to show people that they can do it. I try a lot of things on here and they don't turn out so good. Most of them look nothing like the pictures posted. Lol. But I feel inspired to try new crafts and sometimes it inspires a serious interest in something. You shouldn't not post something just because there are people on here who don't know how to do it. Isn't that the point of the website?

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edwatkins made it!(author)2010-03-15

Hi, thanks for you comments.

I appreciate the skill and time needed to learn a craft to a professional level.
But, this was the first ring I ever carved (well the second if you count the disastrous first attempt with the wrong kind of wax).

Is it something you could sell in a jewelry store? Probably not, it's a bit squiggly, and the pillars aren't exactly the same length. But those imperfections are exactly what makes it so special to my wife and I, it's hand made, truly unique, one of a kind, flaws and all.

The day people stop doing things outside of their comfort zone, simply because they don't have the experience, is the day the human race stops innovating. I wonder how many airplanes there were before Mr Wright built his?

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Tool+Using+Animal made it!(author)2010-09-09

Bravo, well said Sir.

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JettaKnight made it!(author)2010-09-09

"I wonder how many airplanes there were before Mr Wright built his?"

Several, the Wright's just perfected what was already out there. Another step in the evolution of manned flight. Their was plenty of knowledge and experience out there, they just added to that knowledge base with their own ingenuity.

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edwatkins made it!(author)2010-09-09

Not really my point, but sure.

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mdeblasi1 made it!(author)2010-03-15

Hats off to you Ed.  This is an admirable first wax carving project., but don't be so quick to discount that first disaster.  Every time I melt something, or break something in the studio I try to take a sanguine attitude towards it, and say "well, I learned never to do that again." 

A really tremendous thing about being a metal smith is the fact that your materials are recyclable; if you melt the pendant, roll it back out into sheet and start again.   And our tool kit, we really have one hell of a tool kit, from hammers torches and tongs, to the finest files and tweezers. 
Cheers,
Marya
By the way, are you a member of Orchid?

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Roflolommo made it!(author)2011-11-27

I kinda hope I can find this again in like 70 years when I'm ready to settle down.

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rperez5 made it!(author)2011-09-28

Thanks For Sharing.

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quakefiend made it!(author)2011-08-25

and this isn't what you do for a living?! You, sir, are insanely talented.

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hhornburg made it!(author)2011-07-04

this is amazing.
If my man did that for me I would be endlessly thrilled!

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harigast made it!(author)2011-02-15

i love this one. a great look at the process. if i tried this it would look something akin to the clown bed homer made for bart.

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lug+big+lug made it!(author)2010-12-10

WIll plaster of paris work for the lost wax process?

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Klayton+Kress made it!(author)2010-12-03

"Apollo have limited inventory, but do sell loose stones to the public."
I was looking on their website to buy a diamond and it says," Apollo Diamond will be selling it's cut and polished cultured diamonds in finished pieces of jewelry. At present loose stones are not available." Is this information old, did they change their policies, or you buy your side diamonds elsewhere?

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