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Making black powder.

Making black powder.
This instructable shows you how to make black powder for use in rocket motors and shells.
 
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Step 1Ingredients and equipment.

Ingredients and equipment.
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the things you will need can be bought in supermarkets or garden stores.
And a ball mill can be constructed easily, if this goes down well, i might enter a ball mill instructable.

1.Potassium nitrate/KNO3/salt peter
2.Sulfur/flowers of sulfur/dusting sulfur
3.Charcoal
4.Ball mill
5. scales

The KNO3 is a garden fertilizer and can be bought at most gardening centers, as is the Flowers of sulfur, (its used to kill mites and acidify soil, so make sure you de-acidify it!)
Charcoal can be bought. Or if you have fireplace, or campfire the black brittle stuff is charcoal
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Mar 17, 2012. 1:55 PMtroubledJoe says:
I was wondering if I can use a Ceramic DURAMEDIA for mixing black powder in a 3lb tumbler?
Jan 9, 2012. 3:46 AMDhunter1469 says:
Why cant u just buy it from a firearm(gun) store I live in sa so I Canot just buy it but I know you can in America
Sep 4, 2011. 8:03 PMpoopercooker says:
the de acidifying process doesnt make alot of sense please reply
Sep 4, 2011. 7:56 PMpoopercooker says:
how do you de acidify the sulfur please respond fast i is in a hurry
Aug 29, 2011. 7:24 PMTheTicklemehellmo says:
Nice 'Ible! I saw this in a book, but i was too scared to try it :P


P.S. You should probably put a disclaimer, because some idiot is probably going to blow his hand off.
Apr 10, 2011. 5:47 PMsamstocker says:
you do know that if you keep grinding it, and then place it in cheese cloth or pantyhose and running water over it, it'll make the powder much more powerful and quick burning
Feb 20, 2010. 5:53 PMcharlie c says:
 can u use sodium nitrate insted of potasium nitrate?
Jan 25, 2011. 11:55 PMxfox44mag says:
hay use sodium nitrate for making blasting powder olny
Aug 12, 2010. 2:19 PMToddisI says:
Yes you can, many people do.
Jan 25, 2011. 11:15 PMxfox44mag says:
grinders are olny use to grind not to mix and let it diy for 2 days in a can or on paper not in a bag mix right it will burn just like hodgdon pyrodex RS
Jan 25, 2011. 11:06 PMxfox44mag says:
O for got do not use fertilizer that kind stupi win you can buy the stump remover and its cheper at lest for me
Oct 1, 2009. 9:47 AMm5industriesinc says:
dude where do get actual black powder
Oct 2, 2009. 7:28 PMforce9000 says:
Buy it at a gun shop
Oct 5, 2009. 11:36 AMm5industriesinc says:
thank you but how much is it and whats the name of the store
Jan 25, 2011. 11:05 PMxfox44mag says:
runs 20 buck for rs most places
Oct 5, 2009. 7:44 PMforce9000 says:
Sorry I don't but I'm sure you could find it in your local telephone directory, just call around.
Jan 25, 2011. 11:03 PMxfox44mag says:
ok FIRST OFF DO NOT USE WATER TO MIX BLACK POWDER USE ALCOHOL like everclear or some thing thats 190 or 100% and you do not need to use a lot just a nuff to damp it the olny reson this is done is so you do not kill your self it makes it not light off y your mixing it you can mix dry but it dose work a bit beter mixing with alcohol i have made a tons of this stuff and trid a lot of combos DO NOT USE HARD WOOD OR PINE GET REALY SOFE WOOD CHRCOL WORKS GRATE i use balsa i build r/c planes so i have a lot but you can use adler wooks good to i make blasting powder with the balsa it flash faster then adler i made some with pine be for to see what it do and it bruns like crap
you can change the burn rate by mesing with the chrcol % add to make it burn faster it at less it works for me i shoot guns with it and some rockits i use this mix 75%potassium nitrate 10%sulfur 15 chrcol and thats where i start at now to get the potassium nitrate you can buy at lows spestracide stump remover and grind it in a coffe grinder till its realy fine works good and fast its 90% potassium nitrate i buy my sulfur dust ther too it on the same shelf lol o and if you flip the can over thers a biger cap on the outher end i found out after cuting the top off lol a ball mill ok but not need i use a can and a stick for i do not whant to die never use steel in a ballmill use led or coper brass never steel AND DO NOT USE THE COFFE GRINDER TO MIX IT OLNY TO GRIND THE potassium nitrate i saw a guy lose a hand so be safe win mixing
Jan 12, 2011. 1:59 PMNicola Tesla says:
could i use a blender
Nov 12, 2009. 8:33 PMZem says:
Do you have to use a ballmill? or can you use a pestle and mortar? 
Nov 30, 2010. 11:58 PMjpoopdog says:
you can use a mortar and pestle, however, to get the powder fine enough for the carbon particals and potassium nitrate particals to bond, like they do in water , it may take a while, unless you have very fine flour like powder to begin with.
i tried both, and found that the mortar and pestle powder didnt work as well when milled, plus, in the ball mill the powder turned properly black, wheras, in a mortar and pestle, after grinding hard for an hour and a halve, i couldnt get ti to go any darker than medium grey (normal grey).
essentialy im saying yes, you can, but it will be better and easier in a ball mill, as the proccess takes time, which isnt always the best thing , when you need to put in alot of effort you cant give.
Nov 22, 2010. 7:22 PMjpoopdog says:
hm, i see a problem with this, you se i have tried many a time to make black powder without neding to mix it with water(aka a dry mix like this one), and it never seems to work....EVER!!!
apparently the chemicals cannot properly mix unless they are mixed together in hot, steaming water and alcohol, as the nitrate is absorbed fully into the charcoal, and the sulfur undergoes some kind of reaction also to bond with hydrogen and such.
please, dont lie when you answer this, but is this actually as good as proper, homemade, black powder using the traditional, methods of mixing and disolving in water then drieing out in crystaline grains?
Nov 25, 2010. 1:43 AMjpoopdog says:
well, i just tried it again, and to your specs, this time i took the time to make and use proper charcoal, and this time, when i made the black powder, i did it by weight not volume like i did before when i had no mini scale.
and im glad to say the stuff works, but not so great as i though, not even alum will bring the stuff any better :C.
however, i do see it fit for use as rocket propelant, and right now i am mixing half with steaming hot water, to mix in the nitrate, i will make another batch but i will add 5% potasium chlorate, to see if the results better. and for the other half (the first half was for two batches), i will reserve it for direct use as fuse gunpowder, which i will mix with dextrin to make a fuse, once my dextrin comes on off ebay!
im also happy to say that if compacted realy hard, and forced into granules that way, this works just as well as crushed rocket propelant, that i use in my mini pocket cannon, that is the size of a pencil, and ill let you know, only good smokey explosives like gunpowder and rocket propelant work in that, and this powder did work in it, and , fortunately, is incapable of shoting the small solder ammo very hard, so its safer to use on my tank . yay

thankyou for making this instructable, i am glad you have shown me how to make tis kind of bp

lastly ill point out, unlike bg from rocke engines or fireworks, this leaves very little odour, compared to others, so ill be able to use it in re-useable rockets, and not have them stink up any more.! :)
Jul 29, 2010. 9:04 PMFlaScubaMan says:
Lead balls are best for the tumbler. An easy source is Walmart. Go to the fishing dept, and buy the large 1 inch lead egg sinkers. They have a hole which gets plugged with powder after first use, buts thats OK. I would recommend tumbling new sinkers with disposable sand or charcoal for an hour to remove the zinc coating on the sinkers.
Mar 10, 2009. 2:38 PMgwarboy2000 says:
ok everything was good prior to him saying, "Then combine the KNO3 with the Charcoal, and 10g of the sulfur mix in the ball mill until at a consistent fine-ness, about 1 hour" no offense but DONT DO THAT, Its very dangerous to mix an oxidizer and charcoal together, there is a risk of explosion!
May 17, 2010. 1:20 PMx133tx0n3x says:
 You do know that black powder doesn't explode?
May 4, 2009. 1:57 PMjessiebryant says:
yeah hes absolutly right and ther is a proper way in order to do this but be extremely careful.
Jun 18, 2009. 10:25 AMRadioactive_-Chemist101- says:
if you have lead media you can ball mill the entire thing together. Don't add kno3 and charcoal first. Just put everything in together. Sometimes you might want to grind the charcoal and sulfur together first so they are combined well. Then mill the KNO3 with the charcoal sulfur mixtrure. ONLY use LEAD media when milling black powder or any other explosives. You DO NOT want to turn your mill into a bomb.
Nov 22, 2010. 7:30 PMjpoopdog says:
actually proper exploding black powder cannot be made using these 3 ingredients alone as black powder, of this grade cannot possibly burn quick enouh to explode.
to make exploding black powder, you must make the mixture in the original method which is to bond the chemicals together in hot water( charcoal chemicaly bonds with kno3 in hot water, making it imposible to remove or extract later), but then you must also add the equivalent of 5% potassium chlorate, of the complete mix, prior to putting in water, so if you have 100 grams of black powder mix ready to wet, add 5gram potasium chlorate.
this will make the black powder that little bit more unstable, allowing it to explode, while not becomeing some kind of touch explosive, like chlorate charcoal mixtures, though, if put into a ball mill, it will explode. this is what is added to comercial grade black powder, to make it that much more explosive.
to make this mixture into firecracker powder, without wetiing it, you can add 5% aluminium powder, along with an equal amount of kno3, to make a hot instant explosive powder
Mar 11, 2009. 7:00 AMgwarboy2000 says:
this is very true, but if you know the chemical background of KNO3 you'll know that it is unstable when combined with charcoal or aluminum. I know this from many sources including one of the biggest fireworks makers of our time, zambelli. I live in new castle pa. I contacted zambelli on this issue ages ago when I first started making fireworks. zambelli promptly told me that in fact it might be somewhat safe but there is a huge risk of explosion that isn't worth ballmilling. I have also contacted the batf (Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives)as well as my local state fire marshal. I'm not trying to be a know it all, but I want people to have the correct information. if you don't believe me, call the batf or your local fire marshal they will tell you.
Apr 27, 2010. 2:21 PMFoaly7 says:
On a scale of one to ten, how explosive is this?
Mar 13, 2010. 6:19 PMm5industriesinc says:
can you put a picture of the ball mill you used

Mar 13, 2010. 6:17 PMm5industriesinc says:
How much does the potasium nitarte (KNO3) cost ? 
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Feb 22, 2010. 3:41 AMthedog458 says:
ok so i read the comment below and i still wanted to ask what about ammonium nitrate? 
Dec 30, 2009. 10:02 PMWhitedude0728 says:
if you buy spectracide stump remover thats 100% kno3. o and i noticed when i went to stores to buy some in california all the ingredients were removed :(
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