Step 5: Fit the Frame to the Touchsurface, Mount the LEDs

This step covers the installation of the Lexan touchsurface and LED lights into the frame built in Step 3 of this Instructable.

Before permanently affixing the frame to the Lexan, check to ensure the frame fits the 8-inch by 10-inch Lexan touchsurface by sliding the Tile Divider strips (from Step 3) onto the edges of the touchsurface: it should fit nice and snug in its happy new frame. Also, check to be sure that there are no plastic burrs left in the Tile Divider from drilling the LED holes, as these can make the frame fit poorly. Once you've checked the fit, it's time to glue the frame and the Lexan together into a single unit.

Remove the Tile Divider frame, and peel the protective covering back about one inch back from the edges of the Lexan, taking care not to remove it completely. Then, slide the frame back onto the Lexan, without the covering in between the two. Be sure that the frame section that has the LED holes is put on the Lexan edge that was polished smooth!

When all the sides of the frame are on adjusted to your liking, use some crazy glue (or any glue) to glue the corners of the frame to each other. Try to glue frame sections to each other not to the Lexan. If some glue gets on the Lexan, it's not a big deal and shouldn't affect your touchsurface.

Now that the frame is mounted to the Lexan, it's time to mount the LEDs to the frame.
Before permanently gluing the LEDs through the holes in the frame) try a few test runs to make sure you have them positioned properly. For best quality 'blobs' the LEDs shouldn't face straight into the edge of the Lexan, they need to be mounted at a slight angle to the edge of the Lexan: about 20-30 degrees angle off of horizontal (see image for more detail). The angle will help make the light the escapes where the Lexan is compressed brighter and clearer.

To position the LEDs for easier wiring later: be sure to mount all of the LEDs so they are rotated to have the ground pin (the longer pin) on the top.

Once you are satisfied with the angle and position of the LEDs, mount them permanently in the frame by holding the LED in place and applying crazy glue around the outside of the LED where it touches the frame. Hold those LEDs in place until they dry completely! (This is why we recommend using crazy glue).

Now that the LEDs are in place, it's time to start doing the wiring.
thanks for that intresting guide. Just had a few ideas by reading it.
sir plzz tell me that how this interface works with the software. . what software i have to install and how it install. . this is also my final year project.and im started on working on it. plzzz tell me the complete detail and description. . . i shall be so grateful to you<br>
hey could i use a PS3 camera i heard they work great
hey could i do alyer of infreid leds then a reciver so that on the surface i can just touch anywhere
I think it's possible. But it's less expensive to turn a webcam to an IR camera...
<div style="margin: 0.0in 0.0in 10.0pt;">Can we use <strong>IR camera </strong>directly instead of converting webcam into IR camera??? Thanks.</div>
yes sure u can
did you make the one in the video?
^ I'd like to know that as well
the idea of this project is to allow the webcam to see the infrared light right? so could i just make a stick that emit infrared light ratter than make the screen?
<p>short answer - yes. <br /> <br /> one problem - working out how your going to hold multiple IR-emitting pens in one hand. this of course opens up the possiblility for a multi-touch display without an actual box. you could simply wave the pens around in the air in front of an IR camera, and have the pointers show on a monitor.<br /> &nbsp;</p>
You can create a glove with ir leds on it, and position the camera so it will react only to some distance in the space (so you can use shut them down like click, or make an button that shut downs the led's when you fully straignten the finger, every one of them, or when you bend them to certain degree. :)<br />
nice work! but it couldn't download example patch anymore. anybody has it email me that?
i personally sanded with 400 grit, 800 grit, and the classic "blowtorch method".
Nice diagrams!
Please let me know the size of the sheet, thinkness, length and breath.
Sheet size is limited only by the brightness of the light source. As for thickness, I've heard 1/4" works the best.
For the people who are after IR leds then go here. I got mine from there. They come in strips. Easy installation took me five minutes. Shipping takes over a week. Contact him and leave him a message of your requirements etc.<br/><br/><a rel="nofollow" href="http://youshare.co.uk/iphoneworld/form1211626325.php">http://youshare.co.uk/iphoneworld/form1211626325.php</a><br/>
the download is working it's just being renamed weirdly, <strong>right click</strong> and do a '<strong>save link as'</strong> or whatever your browser has as a similar option. <br/><br/>it will then give the file name as 'FH1S374F3KMNVOY.tmp' just go ahead and save to the desktop, or note where you saved it to.<br/><br/>when its downloaded just rename it to Touch_demo_3.v4p and you should be good to go :-)<br/><br/>Also many thanks for the instructible it's fascinating how many ways people are going about this, I had contacted a london based company that specialises in bar's to try and buy their system but their customer service has been so poor, I decided to research further and found this and many other far more exciting ideas. It's not so difficult and I'll get exactly what i want, so now instead of buying I'm going to build!!! <br/><br/>I'm off to the shed, and I won't be back till breakfast :-D<br/>
I may be wrong, but couldn't you now use the Wii remote in place of the video camera? (a la Johnny Lee.)
Use this led calculator to calculate the resistors you will need for your ir led array<br/><a rel="nofollow" href="http://ledcalculator.net/">http://ledcalculator.net/</a><br/>
what works better? lexan or acrylic
very nice! i've got a questions... 1) how about latency/responsiveness of such a thing... can it be used for real-time live music, for entering beats, controlling effects etc.? i'm considering building it, but maybe it want perform enough for what i would use it... 2) are there some requirements for lighting? that is can it be usable under any lighting condition? what about some club interiors, sometimes they love to use these UV lamps, do you think it can affect this somehow?
There is low latency on this, it's only limited by how fast your PC can process the video. IT should do OK under black (uv) lights, but it does not do so well in light that has a lot of Infra-red (ie, bright dayligt, outdoors). I hope that helps
Thanks! Though don't know what "low" exactly means:-) It's clear, that the processing machine probably won't do much more useful stuff then multitouch handling... But that could be OK. Anyway thanks for nice guide!
Check out <a rel="nofollow" href="http://nuigroup.com">http://nuigroup.com</a> to learn more :) great tutorial thanks!<br/>
When modifying the webcam is it possible you could brake the computer?
Not at all, there is 0.001$ chance of breaking the computer. Even if you work on it plugged in (DON"T do that) you would at most ruin the one USB port you are plugged into. Now, having letting something fly across the room because you were prying too hard, that is possible. Don't work on this right next to you LCD monitor, for example.
HI FarMckon, this is a very good instructable, however i`ve some questions. 1) can i see my desktop on the table top? 2)shouldi run vvv together with the appz i want to manipulate(ex. photoshop)? 3) can u give us a demo video in manipulating some popular appz. thanks. more power to you cheers
so with this handy stuff i can like control my computer? like something i can use during a powerpoint presentation to control the pc without walking back and forth? and will more LEDs increase performance or accuracy? how many should i use? thanks
Yes, using this you can control you PC, but not a 'walk away' type of thing. It's like a homebrew <a rel="nofollow" href="http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/notag/economy-of-scales-lemur-touch-pad-hands-on-105480.php">Lemur Pad</a>. <br/><br/>For my 8in x10in demo, I used 5 LED's and it worked great. An LED every 2 inches or so works for small boards, I can't recommend something for board over 15in or so, since I've not built one yet.<br/>
what do you mean by "not a walk away type"..."homebrew"?? does this mean like i CANT use the touchscreen to click the start menu and stuffs?
I mean that your hand has to be in contact with the touch surface to use it. You can't wave your hand a few feet away and have it accept commands. If you are using it in a projector room, you would need to have a long USB cable connecting your touch-box (sitting next to you) to the computer/projector you are using (sitting somewhere else). In this case "Homebrew" means it works similar to a commercial product, but it's built at home a lot cheaper. In this case, it not as good quality as the commercial product either.. You can use it to click start, etc, but it's more useful for situations that need multiple inputs at once. Such as playing digital piano/keyboard, various video games, etc.
lol. icanhascheezburger?
hi how do you power the LEDs becaue i attached mine to a 1.5v battery and they blow up
An LED is designed to run at a certain voltage and to draw a certain amount of current. If you exceed this rating it will overheat and burn out. When you get your LEDs they will have a specification sheet usually on the back of the package, or you can look them up online. Let's say that your LED runs on 2.2vdc and is supposed to draw 20mA of current. (That's 0.020 amps) So... how do you connect it without it blowing? Let's say you have a 5 volt power supply... 5 volts minus 2.2 volts is 2.8 volts. We know that we need to control this additional 2.8 volts to never exceed the 20 mA (0.020 Amps). 2.8 volts divided by 0.02 is 140. So we will need about 140 ohms of resistance... a quick trip to Radio Shack or other supplier and we find that the nearest resistance is 150 ohms. This will work just fine. In the discussion below... if we were to insert a 1K (1000 ohm) resistor, the formula would be... 2.8 volts divided by 1000 is 0.0028 amps... or 2.8 mA far below the operating current specified... they would be VERY dim indeed! Jerry
Agree with mrdspecs, you need a current-limiting resistor. 1k sounds a little high, typically regular LEDs will take 5-10 mA, at 1.5V means you want 300-150 Ohms, respectively. Just put it in series with the LED, so +battery -> resistor -> led -> -battery.
You need to put some sort of resistance in there. You can't just run the battery through the LED because all your electrons get out. Get like a 1k resistor at radioshack.
What are you seeing that indicates they are burnt out? Are they getting extremely hot when they do that? What type/brand of battery are you using, just a standard AA battery? I'd like to help, but I don't have enough info to go on from your post so far.
Woah Wait so this interface doesn't really project the images that you are palying with on the device you built, you only see it on the comp? And I have read this and i am very intriqued to do this, but i haven't really grasped the concept of the leds and how this works with the vvvv programs?
Yes, in this version the image aren't projected onto the touch-surface. It's still a cool toy, it's much like using a mouse without looking, since your feedback is right on the computer screen. The LED's are to shine infrared light (IR) into the touch surface, so the camera can pick up the IR to see where you are touching the surface. VVVV is just a quick (and sweet) tool to get something running where you can see the feedback. VVVV will automaticlly detect most windows webcam drivers, so you can simply install a regular webcam, start vvvv, and easily do image processing on the camera video feed. I hope that helps clear some things up!
So whtat basically happend is tht the light is detected from the webcam and transmitted to the computer where vvvv compiles it into its code and you can do touch screen stuff with it? srry bout the amt of question im 15 new to all this
Yes, that is what it does. I think it would be cleared to rephrase that ".... where vvvv WATCHES THE VIDEO, and then you can do touch "
ya thx great project!
Hi, do you think is possible to bay a webcam with night vision and it'll work properly?
As far as I understand it, the plastic frame is only there to keep the infrared light inside the lexan while it spreads ? So couldn't we simply use sume duct tape / black electrical tape to cover the side have pierce a small hole on a small part of the tape ? Am I wrong ?
The frame is there to keep the LED's mounted at a decent angle, and so the whole thing can be mounted in/on a table. I think you could use tape, but I'm not sure how well that would hold up once someone starts using gestures, etc. That much hand motion was even problems with my plastic frame using lower quality glue. I upgraded from hot-glue to crazyglue after LED's kept getting knocked off after 15-20 of playing around and using gestures.
Cool project ! Could you suggest online stores where to buy 4.3 mm lens without IR filter ? I hope they ship to Canada !
I got mine off ebay. There is a good <a rel="nofollow" href="https://www.instructables.com/id/E7OGJGKPAXEZ7BDYA9/">instructable on making an IR lens</a> and due to visible light leakage with the IR lens, I'm building one of those. I'll post how well that works out.<br/>

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