Missile Technology on the Cheap.

 by Kiteman

Whoosh! The gleaming projectile hurtles towards the stars, trailing vapour and open mouths.

Well, sort of.

Rockets are popular. Big, powerful and, above all, expensive. Shuttle launches cost billions of dollars a shot, and unmanned launches aren't much cheaper. You can, of course, do it yourself. Burt Rutan has his own company that builds rockets as well as aircraft, and the British Starchaser team are working on their own system for launching tourists and satellites.

Unfortunately, 'real' rocketry is far beyond the scope most pockets, and even modest-sized liquid and solid-fuelled rockets are too expensive for the casual hobbyist. They are more in the realm of the dedicated enthusiast. Toyshops sell kits by companies like Estes, and high-power models are also available online, but they are still a bit of a stretch for the casual pocket, costing up to several tens of pounds per launch. This instructable describes three ways of getting into rocketry on a pocket-money budget.

 
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Step 1: Take a Step Back...

... and think what a rocket actually is. Newton's Third Law of Motion states that, for every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction. That's how a rocket works; push something out the back, the rest of the rocket gets pushed forwards. The faster it gets pushed out, the faster the rocket goes. Here's the important point: nowhere does Newton mention fire. He doesn't say 'throw hot stuff out the back to go forwards'; he just says 'throw stuff out the back to go forwards'. It doesn't have to be a blast of burning gases. Water will do the job just as well. This really is rocket science.

But, Water Rockets?

Yes, water rockets. The easiest way to find out what we're talking about is to try it. Time for an experiment.

Buy a can of cheap fizzy drink (make it as cheap as you can, because you aren't going to drink it), put on old clothes and go outside. Give the can a good shake, then throw it on the ground. Throw it at something pointy, like stones, so that the can bursts. What happens? Fizzy drink goes everywhere, that's what happens (that's why you're wearing those old clothes), but so does the can. When the pressure in the can shoots drink one way, the can goes the other way. That is a rocket. All we need is a more controllable way of putting the pressure in and letting it out again when we want to.

Time to Build a Rocket.

This is important: if you are going to make a rocket, you must be aware of the dangers. Water rockets are fast and can hit hard. You should take all the precautions you see fit. You have been warned.

Building a rocket isn't as hard as it sounds, but we will need some specialist items:

> A fizzy pop bottle (any size, but it must have contained something fizzy - the bottles that hold still drinks are not as strong)

> A cork or rubber bung the right size to fit very snuggly into the neck of the bottle (they can be bought from some brewing supply shops, found in junk shops or scrounged off friendly science teachers)

> A bicycle pump (foot or hand, either is fine)

> A football inflation adaptor (the long spike that connects onto the pump and slides into the football's bladder - they cost a few pence from sports shops)

> Some water

> A couple of bricks

> Safety goggles are also a very good idea, as the plastic bottles can burst, although this is rare. You are more likely to get clipped by a flying bung or a ricocheting rocket

The most difficult part is getting the adaptor through the bung. If you are using a cork, you will have to drill through the cork (use the narrowest drill-bit you can), insert the adaptor and seal around it with silicon sealer. Some people use a rubber bung. To pierce the bung, heat a narrow nail to red heat with a blow torch (holding it with pliers!), push it through the bung and pull it straight back out. Very quickly, push the adaptor through the same hole while the rubber is still hot. After a few moments, the rubber will have cooled and set to make a good seal around the adaptor. Now it's time to test it.

(Alternative method (which I have not tried) is to freeze the rubber bung (24 hours in your icebox), and then drill it with a narrow bit.)

Stand the empty bottle right way up in a bucket, push in the bung and connect your pump. Give several pumps. The bottle should creak and shift slightly as the pressure builds. Stop and listen. Can you hear a hiss? Quiet, high-pitched hisses are fine, because the bottle does not need to hold pressure very long. Louder, deeper hisses are also not usually cause for panic, but if you can't cure them with extra sealant you will have to pump very fast to launch your rocket.

Pump some more. And more. It should not take long, but after about ten to twenty pumps (depending on pump and bottle), the bung will suddenly shoot out of the bottle with a bang. Your basic rocket is finished.

Launching the Water Rocket.

Launching a water rocket is an outdoors activity, as they have been known to go up to 100m high, and this Researcher lost a couple a street or two away from the schoolyard they were launched from.

Half-fill your bottle with water, insert the bung, and prop it up with the bricks (upside down now, so that the water shoots downwards). You should have bricks all round the bottom to stop it slipping, and the bottle should not be tilted more than 30 degrees from the vertical (look at a clock face - the rocket should not launch 'before' 11am or 'after' 1pm), preferably pointing slightly into any wind-blowing.

Attach the pump, and go for it. Do not lean over the bottle! You will see the air bubble into the bottle and feel the pressure building up. It will not take as long as the test because there is less space for the air to fit. When the pressure pushes the bung out, it will also push the water out.

Remember Newton? As the water rushes down and out, the bottle whizzes up and away. Rapidly - that's why you didn't lean over it. Water rockets have been known to reach altitudes of 100 metres (300 feet) - they aren't kiddy toys!

Recovering the Water Rocket

Now that it's empty, the bottle is fairly light, so it doesn't need a parachute, but it can still give people underneath a nasty crack if they aren't paying attention. Watch carefully as it falls, just in case a gust of wind carries it away.

Improvements to the Water Rocket

You will have noticed that your bottle tumbled as it flew. Adding fins made of card or cut from another bottle will help it fly truer and further. Try streamlining it with a nose-cone made of card, or carved from polystyrene. Fix all these with duck tape, epoxy or hot-glue. Remember, you are not allowed to have exposed metal on the outside of any amateur rockets flown in the UK or USA (that's the law).

Can you create a recovery system? Parachutes, rotors and fixed or folding wings have all been used to keep them in the air longer.

You will also find that adjusting the amount of water in your rocket will change the range, but I'll leave that up to you to investigate.
ElvenChild says: Dec 3, 2012. 3:45 AM
Hey Kiteman, I'm having a bit of a problem with the match stick rocket, and was wondering if you could help? I've tried it twice now, and both times I've ended up with semi-flaming (technically it was the match head that was flaming) foil. I'm wondering if this means I need to use more foil, or is it something else?

Thanks for your time.
-ElvenChild
Kiteman (author) in reply to ElvenChildDec 3, 2012. 9:33 AM
My first thought is to recommend more foil.

Make sure the rocket is capable of actually launching, and isn't too tight on the match intended to stay behind.
iceng says: Nov 24, 2012. 10:16 PM
My only match rocket experience is using a meter long lab glass tube fire sealed at one end
held secure at an appropriate up angle to allow a stick match to slide head down and ignite 
at the molten glass end.

The expanding gas makes an excellent simply  re-loadable mortar able to easily launch sticks
as far as10 meters away.

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Kiteman (author) in reply to icengNov 25, 2012. 12:19 AM
A matchstick mortar...?

Ohhh...
ride on toy dude says: Oct 7, 2012. 11:12 AM
Ahh Burt Rutan. He is my role model.
(Along with Mr. Steve; )
redcrate says: Jun 5, 2012. 10:21 PM
Baking Soda and Vinegar is a lot more fun and costs less:

http://www.instructables.com/id/Film-Container-CO2-Rocket./
Kiteman (author) in reply to redcrateJun 6, 2012. 3:34 AM
This is a lot less messy, though, and (when you've got a class of thirty 11 year-olds doing this) it makes the risk-assessment paperwork easier to have water splashing instead of acidic vinegar.

Oh, and isn't it about time you posted another project? ;-)
Pfarmkid says: Feb 27, 2012. 5:20 AM
What do they call Boy Scout of America across the pond or is it just Boy Scouts or just Scouts
Kiteman (author) in reply to PfarmkidFeb 27, 2012. 7:12 AM
Here, in the birth-place of Scouting, we just call it "Scouting" (since girls are allowed to join as well).
Pfarmkid says: Feb 27, 2012. 5:09 AM
you should put the football adapter in the other way then it in the end of a soda bottle and shake it up it would directionalize the spew of expanding soda and cause it too fly higher thank a bike pump
Delo97 says: Oct 9, 2011. 3:35 PM
I've got an idea
Using some ultra-tech hi-cost toilet paper, you could separate the AS from the water... until it's flipped. Then, they would come in contact, and... BOOM! An instant, easy to carry AS rocket! Just take care not to flip it as an accident.
OMFG TOILET PAPER FTW!!1!!!11!!1!one!!eleven!!!!11!1!!!.png
Kiteman (author) in reply to Delo97Oct 10, 2011. 4:36 AM
Yes, that works well.
Delo97 in reply to Delo97Oct 9, 2011. 3:36 PM
Also, sorry for the horrible drawing, it was done on MS Paint with a mousepad.
-Aj- says: Apr 27, 2008. 10:17 PM
oh hai i is potassium nitrate? kno3 sugar rockets... the best kind cheap, easy quick and plenty of thrust... if you makem properly. blackpowder is also cool, just started playing with some, is fun!
Kiteman (author) in reply to -Aj-Apr 28, 2008. 1:08 PM
Yes, potassium nitrate is KNO3 , also known as saltpetre or salt peter.

Apparently it can be found as "stump remover".
ilpug in reply to KitemanJul 14, 2009. 7:59 PM
or you can boil down pee to make it...
uberzombiebob in reply to ilpugApr 15, 2011. 11:44 AM
or you can get it from the internet. inoxia chemical supplies do a reasonable deal.
scarabeetle101 in reply to ilpugMar 14, 2010. 10:46 AM
 I'm sure that's phosphorus - and it takes gallons of pee, high temperatures and a lot of time to make tiny amounts.

Saltpetre is made by regularly pouring large amounts of urine on a pile of cow dung and straw as it rots down for a few weeks.

Don't ask me how they discovered either of those things. (Actually, I know the first one - it was an alchemist who thought that because of its colour, urine must contain gold.)
lperkins in reply to scarabeetle101Nov 28, 2011. 1:59 PM
The second one is because saltpetre is highly soluble in water and, as such, tends to collect around the upper edges of undisturbed manure piles as the water evaporates out of them.
StuNutt in reply to ilpugFeb 28, 2010. 10:11 AM
I guess we need an Instructable on this . . . . . . Okay, first I need to drink about 10 pints of Old Knackers Heavy Bitter . . . . . . then . . . . . ??

(and don't forget the pictures of every stage  :LOL: )
freakmonkey in reply to KitemanMay 16, 2008. 12:13 PM
Potassium nitrate can also be extracted from many natural sources, such as nitrate bearing earth.
ArvindTheNinja in reply to freakmonkeyDec 14, 2008. 1:29 PM
if u mix KNO3 with sugar and then burn it u get a buttload of smoke
ilpug in reply to ArvindTheNinjaApr 15, 2011. 10:11 PM
pee aside, KNO3 CAN be found as stump remover, in america at least, idk about the rest of the globe.
thomasthetankengine says: Feb 20, 2011. 6:50 PM
Whoa sweet Kiteman! Are you from the U.K? People from their are always cool =P
Kiteman (author) in reply to thomasthetankengineFeb 21, 2011. 1:00 AM
I am.

Cool? I try.
thomasthetankengine in reply to KitemanFeb 21, 2011. 11:33 AM
Haha. I think you are one of the best people on Instructables right now! I love this website so much. Me and my friend were making Altoids Tin boats all day yesterday!
Kiteman (author) in reply to thomasthetankengineFeb 21, 2011. 12:09 PM
I hope you took plenty of photos to write up a step-by-step Instructable?
thomasthetankengine in reply to KitemanFeb 27, 2011. 2:50 PM
Actually, we used this one that's already posted, then did a little tweaking and improv.

http://www.instructables.com/id/Rubber-Band-Powered-Altoids-Boat/

Sorry can't make links for some reason...my computer can but I forgot how. =) Copy and paste it?
Thomas MSwift says: Feb 15, 2011. 1:43 PM
Had it been MY article, this step would have been the very first one...maybe more general in order to not share EVERYTHING you were doing!
Kiteman (author) in reply to Thomas MSwiftFeb 15, 2011. 2:07 PM
I see your point, but piling on the nanny stuff up-front tends to put people off, and it's generally assumed that readers will go through *all* the steps before actually following them.

Thomas MSwift says: Feb 15, 2011. 1:40 PM
A mortar is actually closer kin to a cannon...modern mortars use a twelve-gauge shotgun shell minus the shot to power a fin-stabilized projectile. The mortar shell looks like a rocket due to its shape and its fins.
lulu10 says: Nov 28, 2010. 5:17 PM
this is all $#!% teehee hee ^_*
Kiteman (author) in reply to lulu10Nov 29, 2010. 3:58 AM
I hope that's a wink on the end...
omgomgomglol^^ says: Nov 14, 2010. 4:02 PM
someone really neads to make a instructable on water roket launchers for BIG rockets.i cant find a one thats compatible w/ the one in the instructable cynobite made!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! please?
Kiteman (author) in reply to omgomgomglol^^Nov 15, 2010. 9:27 AM
Got a link?
omgomgomglol^^ says: Nov 14, 2010. 4:29 PM
cooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooollllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll! 6 stars! (i dont care if theres no such thing)
Jezza Bear says: Feb 26, 2007. 1:07 PM
Hi That is interesting, Instead of a rubber bung and a football pump valve, when I did this I used to use a Woods bicycle tyre valve and the actual cap of the bottle. I drilled a hole the same diameter of the Woods valve and then wrapped a small amount of paper masking tape around it and inserted it into the cap. Same method as you but when the pressure was too much it forced the valve out of the cap. To stop tumbling we used to get a 50 foot length of plastic coated clothes line and then duct taped a copper tube to the rocket and fed the clothes line through it. It was a tad safer and was guided
rainger in reply to Jezza BearMay 31, 2007. 6:27 AM
Copper tubing? Dangerous! Read the Instructable again, metal is illegal. Have Fun!! - but be careful!
SJU87 in reply to raingerMay 17, 2010. 4:51 AM
I believe he meant the copper tube was attached to the outside of the bottle, the clothesline passed through it, and then tie the clothesline off at both ends.  The bottle then rides along the clothesline.  A good solution for school teachers with administration that is sensitive to rockets or other things that go up in the air as in our school system where the kids have to use tennis balls to play baseball - "so no one gets hurt."
Jezza Bear in reply to SJU87May 17, 2010. 5:09 AM
That is correct SJU87, it is taped to the outside of the bottle as a guide
altrobot says: Apr 14, 2010. 5:25 AM
some very small changes could make this into a bomb! (not a bad thing)
altrobot says: Apr 14, 2010. 5:20 AM
A quick note that for me in a largeish coke bottle slightly over 1/3 fill works the best.
Kryptonite says: Feb 14, 2009. 9:59 PM
I feel really good about myself now, after months of deliberation (or just not having the right stuff) I finally made it. It's amazing how high it can send it, but it's sort of annoying because you have to shove the cork in impossibly hard, other wise it comes out too easy. Anyway, thanks for introducing me to H2O rockets!
Kiteman (author) in reply to KryptoniteFeb 15, 2009. 2:48 AM
You're welcome!

If the cork thing is a problem, there are projects around for launchers that restrain the rocket until you want to launch is, like this one.
Kryptonite in reply to KitemanFeb 15, 2009. 8:36 PM
Yes, after finding out how much fun launching rockets 20 metres into the air was I thought I'd research how to make it go double, or triple, that. I've got a new launcher planned that shall retain the bottle until pressure is right. I'll deffinitely need a new pump though, I'm borrowing my step dad's which is a foot pump & 10 years old, the pressure guage does not work well plus it actually leaks air/water back out when under pressure. A heap of hot glue sort of worked, but now it squirts out doubly far but at least not as much. By the way, what's with the new blurred images everyone's putting up?
Kiteman (author) in reply to KryptoniteFeb 16, 2009. 5:07 AM
(I don't know what you mean)
Kryptonite in reply to KitemanFeb 16, 2009. 1:38 PM
Display picture, you've changed it now.
Kiteman (author) in reply to KryptoniteFeb 16, 2009. 2:20 PM
You're behind the times, my friend.
Kryptonite in reply to KitemanFeb 16, 2009. 9:19 PM
Oh well, side affects of being a camel. At least I killed Superman, can you do that? (Kryptonite, geddit? Never mind...)
JKibs95 in reply to KryptoniteJul 3, 2009. 6:54 PM
You Fail... Doomsday killed Superman... P.S. What color Kryptonite are you? Red? Gold? White? Or just the regular green?
Kryptonite in reply to JKibs95Jul 12, 2009. 3:37 AM
There's Doomsday now? Nah I'm the song Kryptonite, by Three Doors Down.
JKibs95 in reply to KryptoniteJul 12, 2009. 9:10 AM
Sorry... I'm referring to the comic book villain, Doomsday... He came to Earth one day and killed Superman... I'm a geek...
Kryptonite in reply to JKibs95Jul 14, 2009. 3:28 AM
Dude who would want to kill Superman?!? And don't worry about being a "geek", every body has their passions and likes.
Warlrosity in reply to KryptoniteSep 14, 2009. 2:51 AM
Well, I would kill him
Purple Guy in reply to WarlrosityApr 13, 2010. 10:54 AM
 How could You! :P he's Superman....SUPERMAN!
*Purple Guy*
JKibs95 in reply to KryptoniteJul 14, 2009. 3:40 PM
Doomsday had some issues...
August Spies in reply to JKibs95Sep 2, 2009. 10:29 PM
Hey, if I had a chance, I'd totally take on ol' Supes in a bareknuckle match. "...yeah, but I killed Superman...without kryptonite, I used my (big spikey rock) fists". Who can top that?
Kryptonite in reply to August SpiesSep 14, 2009. 8:42 PM
I could, if I did it with a home made big spikey rock fists!!!
JKibs95 in reply to KryptoniteApr 25, 2010. 5:10 PM
There's probably an instructable on that... If not, make one...
Kryptonite in reply to JKibs95Apr 28, 2010. 3:45 AM
Ok.
_Scratch_ says: Aug 4, 2009. 7:25 AM
Could u make a giant alka-seltzer rocket out of.... well let's say a 55 gallon steel drum?
MrMystery96 in reply to _Scratch_Jan 2, 2010. 8:58 PM
You could, but lift off might be a bit of a problem. I would suggest using something a bit more powerful, with some way to focus it a little bit better.


(hides the bucket of thermite for later use...)
Kiteman (author) in reply to _Scratch_Aug 6, 2009. 1:25 AM
Eyes glaze over...

I don't see why not...
_Scratch_ in reply to KitemanAug 12, 2009. 7:41 AM
also, do you happen to know the PSI that a sealed pill bottle alka seltzer rocket would have? if the gas had nowhere to go.
_Scratch_ in reply to KitemanAug 12, 2009. 7:39 AM
Awesome, i think ill make a rocket powered 55 gallon drum car...... =P
harley_rly in reply to _Scratch_Jan 27, 2010. 8:57 PM
or maybe use the 55 gallon drum to make a giant pulse jet engine, and use it to power your car(well more likely go cart type thing)

Kiteman (author) in reply to _Scratch_Aug 15, 2009. 2:16 PM
Don't forget to do an ible of it, and include a video of your first run.
Kiteman (author) in reply to KitemanAug 15, 2009. 2:16 PM
(Seriously, do it.)
Jumpindingo says: Oct 11, 2009. 1:44 PM
So I was just thinking, on the lines of H2O rockets.  Say you build one out of a Steel Pipe.  Weld a metal head on it, and make a small opening in the bottom of the pipe.  Place a heat resistant cork, or what have you in the hole, and make a launch pad that would be capable of being in a fire.  What I'm getting at is a Steam Powered rocket.  At the time the rocket reaches critical pressure the pressure should be so great that the velocity made would carry the rocket a great distance.  This is all in my head so bear with me.  Now critical pressure would be where you would want the cork to stay until it gets just to the brink of exploding.  How hard to you think it would be to make a steam rocket like this?  Or even more so, had it been done already?
lifeshard in reply to JumpindingoDec 5, 2009. 10:23 AM
Well we all know a very famous Steam powered rocket that worked only the recovery system was faulty and the chute was open during the whole flight.   The rocket still went the full distance then the chute drifted the rocket back almost to the launch tower. 
That my friends was the X-2 Skycycle that Evil Knievel flew over the Snake River Canon. The steam that powered the engine was superheated to a temperature of 500 °F (260 °C). Upon take-off, the drogue parachute accidentally deployed when the bolts holding the cover for the chute stripped out with the force of the blast. The deployed chute caused enough drag that even though the skycycle made it all the way across the canyon to the north rim, the prevailing winds caused it to drift back south, into the canyon. By the time it hit the bottom of the canyon, it landed only a few feet from the water on the same side of the canyon it had been launched from. If he had landed in the water, Knievel would have drowned due to a jumpsuit/harness malfunction which kept him strapped in the vehicle. Knievel survived the jump with only minor injuries.
The design of the steam engine was by former Aerojet engineer Robert Truax and built by Knievels aeronautical engineer Doug Malewicki  Doug is also known for making the famous Robosaurus!  That bites and flames junk cars at Monster Truck shows!  They are the kinds of guys I like read about late at night while I am putting ice on my soldering iron burns. 
Kiteman (author) in reply to JumpindingoOct 11, 2009. 2:19 PM
It has been done for cars and bikes (Link), but not so much for straight-up rockets.

Part of the problem is that it is illegal to make an amateur rocket with metal on the outside.

grevious says: Oct 7, 2008. 1:02 AM
good method, but not as good as mine. instead of the valve that goes i nthe stopper, get a cork and a bicycle inner tube, cut off the air valve leaving about an inch ring on it, put this in the cork and it works much better. and instead of making the framing out of bricks, make two paper tubes (like a toilet paper roll) and attach them to either side of the rocket and then put two cricket stumps in the ground and place the tubes over them. simpler than bricks. :D
Kiteman (author) in reply to greviousOct 7, 2008. 10:56 AM
Cricket stumps don't work well in a tarmac playground ;-)
grevious in reply to KitemanOct 7, 2008. 11:43 PM
lol why a tarmac plaground then, when i do this i do it on footy ovals. ive only ever done it once though lol, and it was for a science thing in pimary school. oh the irony :D
ilpug in reply to greviousJul 14, 2009. 7:58 PM
OHMYGOD!!! you british people are so freaking hilarious!! i am laughing till i cry over this!! i mean this all in good humor, because the brits are awesome ( doctor who for example) but you talk funny and my childish brain gets entertained when you do... but then again, you people across the pond probably laugh at us americans too... *british guy- Rednecks?? bloody heel, martha!! no offense meant i am complimenting you for being naturally funny.
zoltzerino in reply to ilpugAug 30, 2009. 11:49 AM
Please do not base your opinions of the U.K. on Dr. Who, the man who changes his face every few seconds, and has got gradually less British (and comedic) each series.
grevious in reply to ilpugJul 15, 2009. 11:41 PM
im australian o_O
Kiteman (author) in reply to greviousOct 8, 2008. 1:58 PM
My school unfortunately has not grass areas on site.
grevious in reply to KitemanOct 8, 2008. 11:14 PM
um... ahh... ok then. use a potplant without the plant and sit that in the middle of the playground lol.
dmac208 says: Aug 24, 2009. 5:30 PM
in order to stop it from spinning you can also make it spin giving it gyroscopic stability... you make the best instructables kite man
Jupitane says: Apr 13, 2009. 7:27 AM
That picture makes my eyes water.
Kiteman (author) in reply to JupitaneApr 13, 2009. 1:22 PM
Look at it through red-green 3D glasses...
ilpug in reply to KitemanJul 14, 2009. 7:49 PM
heh. you said BUNG!!! lol jk, this is an awesome ible and very well written. keep up the good work. i like how it actually has the "fun science" approach, instead of the "i want to injur my little brother with a rocket-based weapon" approach
Kiteman (author) in reply to ilpugJul 15, 2009. 1:28 AM
Thank you, and you're welcome.

(Over here, "bung" is slang for "bribe")
BEAST14 says: May 31, 2009. 12:36 PM
AAAHHH!!! I'm about to cry! that picture is terrible yet irresistible!
Kiteman (author) in reply to BEAST14May 31, 2009. 1:18 PM
As I said to Jupitane; use red/green 3D glasses.
Kryptonite in reply to KitemanJul 14, 2009. 3:29 AM
I always thought it was red/blue glasses for 3D affects.
Kiteman (author) in reply to KryptoniteJul 14, 2009. 3:53 AM
The colours can be adjusted to match the image.
Kryptonite in reply to KitemanJul 18, 2009. 5:53 AM
Ahh. Which eye would be the red and which one would be the green?
Shahe says: Feb 23, 2007. 5:24 PM
Wow!! Cool!! I'm gona go make bizzillions of them and fly stuff!!! And hopefully not burn anything!
nutsandbolts_64 in reply to ShaheMay 13, 2009. 8:40 AM
and how much will you spend to get this bizzilion rockets ?
nutsandbolts_64 says: May 13, 2009. 8:36 AM
what I know the red thing is red phosphorus the binder is glycerin but I agree on the potassium chloride aww man, you just gave me an idea P.S. I hate eureka moments but it's beneficial
nutsandbolts_64 says: May 13, 2009. 8:17 AM
Ok uh here's my definition : missile is a guided rocket rocket is what kiteman said it is mortar is a variation of a cannon the tube 4 a rocket is a rocket launcher what Vertigo666 is saying is kinda like how an RPG-7 and a Javelin is fired.
Jupitane says: Apr 13, 2009. 7:27 AM
Look at all the words.....
heat-seeker says: Mar 24, 2009. 2:21 PM
Is there a way to "trigger" the water rocket because mine just went up as soon as I pumped the first time any suggestions.
Kiteman (author) in reply to heat-seekerMar 24, 2009. 2:26 PM
The simplest is to just wedge the bottle more tightly onto the cork. Otherwise, there are now several instructables on waterbottle rockets, including triggers.
Taurn says: Feb 9, 2009. 1:32 PM
Yo, how about posting somthing showing how to make a rocket for the fule you can make out of Potasium Nitrate and Sugger?
Kiteman (author) in reply to TaurnFeb 9, 2009. 1:54 PM
Unfortunately, that would be illegal here in the UK.

Google for 5c Sugar Rocket or Sugar Candy for ideas.
Taurn in reply to KitemanFeb 9, 2009. 3:18 PM
Ok the UK... That explains everything, becides why you cant post information on the WORLD WIDE WEB?
Kiteman (author) in reply to TaurnFeb 10, 2009. 4:50 AM
For the information, google as I directed. For an Instructable, I like to actually do what I post.
Vertigo666 says: Feb 8, 2007. 9:48 PM
that would be a missile.
gover57 in reply to Vertigo666Feb 9, 2007. 10:36 AM
a missle IS a rocket. it's just a rocket used to hit something else
Vertigo666 in reply to gover57Feb 9, 2007. 3:27 PM
yes, i know but some propellant is used to give it its initial thrust, whereupon the rocket's main thrust turns on
TheSodaJerk in reply to Vertigo666Feb 9, 2009. 3:57 PM
No. Its a mortar. Thats what a rocket launched out of a tube is called.
dciocoiu says: Oct 31, 2008. 7:18 PM
what is Alka Seltza ? and were do you get them?
Kiteman (author) in reply to dciocoiuNov 1, 2008. 2:45 AM
It's the most famous brand of fizzy headache / hangover tablet.

In the UK, you get it at pharmacies and supermarkets.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alka_seltzer

dciocoiu in reply to KitemanNov 1, 2008. 2:49 PM
I do not Live in the UK
ArvindTheNinja in reply to dciocoiuDec 14, 2008. 1:26 PM
if u live in the US just go to walgreens or something
dciocoiu in reply to ArvindTheNinjaDec 14, 2008. 3:19 PM
I live in CANADA.
imrobot in reply to dciocoiuJan 28, 2009. 9:38 AM
oh for Pete's sake, just go to a pharmacies or supermarkets.
octavian234 in reply to dciocoiuJan 17, 2009. 7:33 PM
theres an instructable on makin your own alkaseltzer
roboman01 in reply to dciocoiuJan 2, 2009. 9:08 AM
Just go to a store that has the word "Pharmacy" on the front. You should be able to get some sort of a fizzy tablet, even in Canada.
Kiteman (author) in reply to dciocoiuNov 2, 2008. 3:50 AM
I guessed that, which is why I mentioned that I did. I'm also guessing that you are some version of European, in which case you may still be able to go to the same kinds of shop. Otherwise, the same effect can be obtained with baking powder (bicarbonate of soda, sodium bicarbonate, sodium hydrogen carbonate) and vinegar - just be careful because it reacts more quickly, and sprays eye-stinging vinegar around.
dciocoiu in reply to KitemanNov 2, 2008. 11:57 AM
i was born in Europe but i am not living there i live in Canada
Kiteman (author) in reply to dciocoiuNov 3, 2008. 10:21 AM
It seems to be available in Canada.
Lithium Rain in reply to KitemanNov 3, 2008. 11:07 AM
Ah, Canada: America's hat.
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dciocoiu in reply to Lithium RainNov 3, 2008. 5:26 PM
i think you need an prescription from youre doctore fore that Alka Seltza . do you ?
Lithium Rain in reply to dciocoiuNov 3, 2008. 7:07 PM
Eh?
dciocoiu in reply to Lithium RainNov 4, 2008. 3:37 PM
what do you mean by eh?
ArvindTheNinja in reply to dciocoiuDec 14, 2008. 1:27 PM
hes canadian. "eh" is something that canadiann people say
Lithium Rain in reply to ArvindTheNinjaDec 30, 2008. 5:02 PM
I'm not Canadian.
Lithium Rain in reply to dciocoiuNov 4, 2008. 4:34 PM
"What?"
Saint_Awesome in reply to Lithium RainDec 30, 2008. 3:51 PM
In Canada you do not need a presecription for alka seltzer.
Lithium Rain in reply to Saint_AwesomeDec 30, 2008. 5:02 PM
You don't need one here either. My point was not about alka seltzer. It was a humorous image.
Saint_Awesome in reply to Lithium RainFeb 13, 2009. 5:57 PM
I actually meant that comment to be directed to the OP, sorry about that. Yes, it is pretty damn funny that somebody thought that would be a controlled substance. Then again, so is weed (in Canada of all places) technically so there you go.
Lithium Rain in reply to Saint_AwesomeFeb 13, 2009. 7:33 PM
Ah, I see. That's okay. Hahaha. Prescription alkaseltzer. :-D
jedi pen-gui-n in reply to Lithium RainJan 3, 2009. 7:35 AM
It was humorous. But i think they are trying to find alka seltzer in canada
andrewbaker in reply to jedi pen-gui-nFeb 8, 2009. 6:35 PM
just how long are you all willing to debate this?!?!?!?!
Zqfgmb in reply to andrewbakerMay 28, 2009. 5:53 PM
this is actually quite funny. BOOKMARKING THIS PAGE RIGHT ABOUT NOW
jedi pen-gui-n in reply to andrewbakerFeb 13, 2009. 1:32 PM
Forever. It gives me something to do.
hg341 says: Jan 24, 2009. 1:02 PM
I like this nice well done but you have no missile all you have are rockets missile's are controlled rockets are free flight p.s. it is against the law to make "missile's" in the usa(i live there)
Kiteman (author) in reply to hg341Jan 24, 2009. 1:32 PM
Technically, a missile is anything throw or fired, intended to strike a target. That includes rocks thrown at trees and spaceprobes sent to crash into comets. The rockets that carried man to the Moon, or satellites into orbit, are all under much tighter control than any combat missile.
hg341 in reply to KitemanJan 25, 2009. 9:36 PM
well I should have though that post out more.... Anyhow thank you for righting my worng
chriskarr says: Nov 28, 2008. 7:42 PM
Are you sure that the alkali in the alka-seltzer isn't sodium bicarbonate (baking soda)?
Kiteman (author) in reply to chriskarrNov 29, 2008. 3:40 AM
That's what I said, except I used the modern naming convention.
chriskarr in reply to KitemanNov 29, 2008. 9:39 AM
Sodium hydrogen carbonate is the same as sodium bicarbonate? I realized that you wrote ""bicarb"" (excuse the double quote), but I thought that sodium hydrogen carbonate was a different substance. I just looked it up, and I guess it is the same thing. Boy, do I feel stupid. Well, at least I learned something today.
Kiteman (author) in reply to chriskarrNov 29, 2008. 9:51 AM
Not a problem - it's just one of those confusions between US and UK English.
chriskarr in reply to KitemanNov 29, 2008. 10:15 AM
Yep - similar to the whole sulfur/sulphur thing. (the only problem I have with 'sulphur' is that the 'ph' makes me think of phosphor) I wish that everybody could standardize. That way Americans and British wouldn't get confused when they work for one another on construction projects. At one point my dad told a British man that he wanted a set of standard wrenches (they had to get them from the headquarters, a few miles away) and when the British man got back the wrenches didn't fit. Sure enough they were metric. My dad asked they guy "What the hell do you think you're doing? I asked you for standard." The man replies - "Yes, this is English standard."
Kiteman (author) in reply to chriskarrNov 29, 2008. 10:20 AM
Ha, you can often buy double-ended spanners - metric on one end, and the closest imperial size on the the other.
chriskarr in reply to KitemanNov 29, 2008. 10:39 AM
Excuse me - it wasn't a wrench or a set - it was a fitting for a pipe, which was more of an inconvenience. Generally, you can make due with the wrong measure of wrenches and use the next biggest size you have. Also, he said 'European standard'. Sorry I didn't get my facts straight the first time.
Cat on my Lap says: Jun 5, 2008. 12:20 PM
Yeah! 1x1010 points for Eagle Scouts.
goose_goose2 says: Apr 14, 2008. 1:51 AM
Since you wrote an instructable on making pocket rockets, can you do the same for turbojet engines?
Kiteman (author) in reply to goose_goose2Apr 14, 2008. 9:56 AM
Sorry, I haven't the tools or the talent.

I think Killerjackalope has a jet-based project on his to-do list, maybe talk to him?
Pumpkin$ says: Apr 7, 2008. 6:50 PM
I find it lacking..... lol how does that feel?
Kiteman (author) in reply to Pumpkin$Apr 8, 2008. 10:09 AM
Oh, I agree, it is. But this 'ible is over a year old, and originally written for a text-only website anyway. If you read my later works, the style has improved greatly, as have the photos and diagrams.
James (pseudo-geek) says: Nov 21, 2007. 7:03 PM
I am thinking about making a 2-stage rocket that goes up to about 200 ft, the nose aims down at this point for descent, and fires its seconds set of boosters, and dives straight down at incredible speeds. of course this rocket will have a very hard nose.
James (pseudo-geek) in reply to James (pseudo-geek)Nov 21, 2007. 7:05 PM
possibly turn this into a firework-version of the Bunker Buster?
darth acexxacer in reply to James (pseudo-geek)Jan 21, 2008. 1:14 PM
well to do that u will need a gyroscopic stabalization device
James (pseudo-geek) in reply to darth acexxacerJan 21, 2008. 5:36 PM
oh course :) I'll take the quicksilver tube out of an old thermostat for that.
Derin in reply to James (pseudo-geek)Mar 31, 2008. 10:22 PM
u mean mercury?be careful wit that one drop contaminates at least 1000 gal.of water to poison levels
darth acexxacer in reply to James (pseudo-geek)Jan 23, 2008. 8:52 PM
good idea i just wanted to say gyroscopic stabalization device :)
James (pseudo-geek) in reply to darth acexxacerJan 23, 2008. 10:21 PM
lol
Kiteman (author) in reply to James (pseudo-geek)Nov 22, 2007. 8:55 AM
You'd need some sort of delay between the first stage going out and the second stage igniting. I haven't used "proper" rocket motors, but I think the second stage would be ignited too quickly if you set things up the "normal" way. You'd need some sort of fuse that would be lit by the separation charge of the first stage motors and take long enough to light the second-stage motors that the rocket would have coasted to apogee and had time to turn over, which could be several seconds.
James (pseudo-geek) in reply to KitemanNov 22, 2007. 11:48 AM
the delay is going to use a tilt switch and electronic ignition system it will have a weight on the nose, and a weight on the tail. they will balance each other out, but when the first stage burns up, the weight on the tail will fall off with the motor and it will go nose-down.
Kiteman (author) in reply to James (pseudo-geek)Nov 22, 2007. 11:58 AM
Good idea - don't forget to document your make and write an Instructable!
James (pseudo-geek) in reply to KitemanNov 22, 2007. 12:09 PM
I wont. but I gotta buy a camera first, my $300 Nikon got stolen :(
Kiteman (author) in reply to James (pseudo-geek)Nov 22, 2007. 1:39 PM
Ouch!
James (pseudo-geek) in reply to James (pseudo-geek)Nov 22, 2007. 12:09 PM
I wont forget I mean.
Tetranitrate says: Feb 13, 2007. 4:02 PM
These things are great when I need a quick rocket fix; although, they don't give as much of a head rush as solid fueled rockets. I think it is the lack of tangible danger, but I'm sure that can somehow be remedied with a simple application of nails or gasoline.
w00ty32 in reply to TetranitrateMar 28, 2008. 10:47 AM
you could add a cotton strand that has been soaked in gas as a lighter for one of the match rockets.
James (pseudo-geek) in reply to TetranitrateNov 21, 2007. 7:08 PM
true, true. I have 4 medium rocket engines setting in my room just dying to launch some terrible and dangerous contraption.
awsome says: Mar 18, 2008. 11:25 AM
...strange...very strange indeed...like a mad scientist...at least the picture resembles...
Pbyrd says: Dec 29, 2007. 9:15 PM
Well I heard that if yo drink Alka-seltzer while your drunk will kill you. I am not old enough to drink and have never had a hangover, but i still wouldn't take alka-seltzer after hearing that.
Kiteman (author) in reply to PbyrdJan 2, 2008. 1:22 PM
A-S is sold as a hangover cure.

The worst you'll get is gas if you drink it before it finishes fizzing.
James (pseudo-geek) says: Nov 21, 2007. 6:58 PM
very professional .
chr says: Nov 21, 2007. 10:28 AM
I once launched a huge (glass) champagne bottle as a water rocket. That was fun! When it reached uhm, some high amount of BARs, the bottle started cracking and we ran away, imagining it would explode and send glass shrapnel flying all over the place. Luckily it didn't. When it finally reached critical mass, and ejected the cork, it it took of kinda slowly because of the weight. More like the space shuttle than a plastic bottle rocket. It landed safely in a flowerbed, with the bottleneck firmly planted into the ground. Water rockets are fun, but stick to plastic! Cheers - Chr
Kiteman (author) in reply to chrNov 21, 2007. 2:07 PM
:-)
glassspider2142 says: Oct 26, 2007. 10:26 PM
cool all food for thought.
i have a desighn in mind for a multi stage hydrogen rocket.
check out my boy near blown on his ass by recoil from his hydrogen cannon.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bfkK4yAh4c
dont for get to rate :)
hooloovoo33 says: Feb 9, 2007. 7:31 PM
Dude, I don't know, maybe you wrote the original too. But this was complete taken from: http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/A3881397http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/A3881397

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, but if you didn't write it, give credit where credit is due.
vatosupreme in reply to hooloovoo33Feb 9, 2007. 11:03 PM
If you read the links that you reference, you will notice that Kiteman is also the author of those pages. It is located at the top right corner of the site. You might want to apologize to Kiteman for all but accusing him of plagiarism. Especially since it is so obvious that he did write the other article.
Kiteman (author) in reply to vatosupremeFeb 10, 2007. 7:14 AM
Oh, how magnanimous of hooloovoo33! Benefit of the doubt indeed!

Yes, the BBC version is entirely mine. I've written a few articles for them (check http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/brunel/U1056601#gent ), enough to earn an Official Field Researcher badge, but we have somewhat parted the ways since they decided to close the Science Messageboards.

The Instructables format is far better for "how to" articles, although am I the only one to find the process somewhat cranky? And why do the thumbnails get covered by the descriptions? And why do the photos get covered by the google adverts? (wanders of muttering and grumbling...)
soapbox derby car in reply to KitemanMay 8, 2007. 7:20 AM
It's possible to fix that on a PC by r-clicking on the background and going to display modes, true color, then 1280 x 1024.
T3h_Muffinator in reply to KitemanApr 4, 2007. 12:38 PM
WOWOWOW! H2G2?! Hooray for The Hitchhikers Guide!
Kiteman (author) in reply to T3h_MuffinatorApr 4, 2007. 12:24 PM
But BOO! to the BBC for closing down the Science and Nature messageboards.
Loosewire; SOE Operative in reply to KitemanApr 13, 2007. 2:13 PM
i though 'what the ancients did for us' with Adam Hart-Davis was brilliant but when i went back to look at the inventions they had deleted it all!!! :(
threecheersfornick in reply to Loosewire; SOE OperativeMar 28, 2008. 8:39 PM
Adam Hart-Davis did a bunch of "What the ______ did for us". They were all great. I just wish I could find somewhere to rent them. Planet Earth was great too...
Loosewire; SOE Operative in reply to threecheersfornickMar 31, 2008. 6:47 AM
Yes, I enjoyed 'Science Shack' which he did too.
T3h_Muffinator in reply to KitemanApr 4, 2007. 12:46 PM
D'OH! Don't they understand the importance of Science?! p.s. For some pretty hilarious British Humor on science, check out the "Look Around You" videos on YouTube. My favorites are "Iron" and "Sulfur".
Ian01 in reply to KitemanFeb 11, 2007. 8:27 PM
You just need to increase your screen's resolution. I have that problem at school, but the control panels are disabled of course.
Kiteman (author) in reply to Ian01Mar 8, 2007. 7:07 AM
Is that all I need to do? Doh!
trebuchet03 in reply to KitemanFeb 10, 2007. 12:40 PM
I'm using FF and have never had a problem with the advertisements covering text or photos ;)
carpe_noctem in reply to trebuchet03Nov 5, 2007. 5:47 PM
by ff, due you mean firefox? if not, i feel stupid. With firefox u can get an add-on called adblock plus that blocks banner adds. also, if a logo for a website takes too long to load you can block it.
jtobako in reply to trebuchet03Mar 7, 2007. 8:34 PM
so am i, but i have the same problem unless ff is at full screen.
nathanzhang says: Apr 3, 2007. 5:00 PM
I am wondering whether i should write an instructable on this idea, but i guess it's already taken somewhere... It's called "High-Impact Water Rocketry"; it involves high-pressure water rockets (high pressure as in total pressure of about 30 bar) using multiple bottles in a single stage with the originally pressurized bottle higher than the bottle leading directly to the main thrusters. The pressure goes from a tube on the bottom of the rocket up to a control valve above that pumps into the six bottles on top, then when pressure reaches a maximum the six bottles release pressurized water into the bottom three bottles, which then are counted down and the full pressure release is initiated and shoots the rocket VERY high... i'm guessing close to about 250 ft... half of what it takes for a typical Air Command champion rocket... so i want to know if anyone has already done research on this and if we can collaborate on the project. Please visit my user page and leave a comment with the first word being (all caps) "HIWR". thank you! PS: It's called "high-impact" not because of the pressure but because it has high comeercial usabilitiry. If you can send a commercial payload (like a cell phoine satellite) up into space using only water, lots of people will wnat to use your serivice! i'll see y'all soon. on the moon!
Kiteman (author) in reply to nathanzhangApr 4, 2007. 3:02 AM
Sounds brilliant. I doubt you'll get into orbit (compressed air stores much less energy than cumbustable fuels), but I've seen a video of a man launched across a lake by water rocket. As far as I know, there's no Instructable like this on the site. Go for it.
evy-wevy says: Feb 8, 2007. 8:51 PM
My science teacher didn't beilive me when I said I made a dry ice rocket.
Tomton in reply to evy-wevyMar 31, 2007. 1:45 PM
Neither did mine..I made a smaller version with baking soda and vinegar in science (I used a plastic snapple bottle for the rocket itself) it shot all the way across the room. If you use enough of each, the reaction in pretty amusing to watch, especially when your lab partner isn't expecting something to go flying. Maybe I'll do an instructable on the vinegar one. Hrm..
big dawg says: Mar 18, 2007. 11:50 AM
thats cool but there is another instructable called matchstick rocket that is almost exactly the same
Kiteman (author) in reply to big dawgMar 18, 2007. 3:16 PM
True, but I wrote these all together. Think of them as rocket-making tutorials.
trebuchet03 says: Feb 9, 2007. 4:23 PM
Another great use for alka seltzer :P By far the best use for effervescent tablets is in diving dry boxes or underwater camera enclosures ;) Cut up a tablet and throw it in the container -- if there's a leak, you'll know AND it will pressurize the container to prevent more water from leaking in ;)
pinski1 in reply to trebuchet03Feb 12, 2007. 2:19 AM
Wow, you actually learn something pretty cool everyday too, thanks to filling me in with todays useful fact :D !!! Definitely one to keep in mind for waterproof enclosures.
dartman says: Feb 11, 2007. 6:27 PM
Nice intructable after reading it i was inspired to make a knex rocket... woot
T3h_Muffinator says: Feb 9, 2007. 7:17 PM
This instructable is perfect for younger kids.... now, if there were only a cheap way to PEW PEW FIRE LAZERZ
Vertigo666 says: Feb 8, 2007. 9:44 PM
a dry-ice rocket.. how would that work? something to do with the fact that if put in an enclosed space, it blows up...
frank26080115 in reply to Vertigo666Feb 8, 2007. 9:52 PM
you can have a nozzle that releases the pressure at a given pressure before the bottle explodes, you can have like a thin burst disk in the nozzle to do this
Vertigo666 in reply to frank26080115Feb 9, 2007. 3:29 PM
oh...... smart
Kiteman (author) in reply to frank26080115Feb 9, 2007. 6:49 AM
Or just a cork instead of the screw-cap...
jkyas says: Feb 9, 2007. 3:02 PM
How about taping or gluing the alka seltzer tablet to the film can top? Put it all together, then invert to launch. Nice job on the instructable.
westfw says: Feb 9, 2007. 1:07 AM
The altitude record for "water rockets" pressurized with air is over 1000 feet. If you can send one to 500 feet and get a parachute to deploy, you've done quite a bit of "real rocketry", IMO.
xboxteen01 says: Feb 8, 2007. 9:10 PM
yea this is a cool instructible, being part of the 2006 eagle scout class i can vouch for that fact that kids like loud noises and rockets
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